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19 October 2013 @ 07:29 am
5.03 - 'Original Sin' (The Vampire Diaries)  
I know this is late. Sorry, sinus infection and the meds made me sleep a LOT! But here I am with my post, and gifs! But only of the Damon/Elena variety this week. Head on behind the cut, folks.

So, to start with I will focus on the whole doppelganger-shadowself stuff. Katherine is key, I believe. Frankly, I find it amusing that a certain fandom is pretty much completely ignoring her and very interesting that the characters are as well… but the writers most certainly are not. And that was quite, quite clear to me. The most obvious case in point (and there are a few points to be made, thank you very much) was the fact that Katherine had the exact same dream as Elena.

The episode begins with Elena having this dream that seems to play at Stefan playing the Ripper, and then he tells his victim to run away, heads outside starts to burn up—horrific, terrible, let's get Elena all worked up and torn up inside, right? Work her guilt and latent feelings of love for Stefan up to a towering, fever pitch, right? Uh huh, uh huh… and then Katherine heads in, clearly upset because *she* had the exact same dream.

So what does that mean then? If Elena's feelings for Stefan were to be worked up, then why wouldn't Katherine's? She loved him. She was with him. She kept choosing him over and over and over again. Right? Right? Right? Hmmm. Then we come to the little writer moment that *really* caught my attention. When Damon shows up at Quetsiyah's to save Stefan, she wonders where Katherine is because she was supposed to be with Damon. After all that's why she sent Katherine the dream supposedly. OK, so there we have it. Plot-driven reason as to why Katherine was sent the dream, had nothing to do with *her* feelings for Stefan, of course… but, then two seconds later, that plot-driven reason is thrown out the window when Quetsiyah pretty much shrugs and is all ‘eh, I can do it without her.'

This tells me that the supposed plot-driven reason was just a MacGuffin to throw off the scent. Right now the show wants viewers to focus on Elena as Stefan's "true love." But, hello!?!?, nowhere in all of Quetsiyah—OK, you know, what I'm going with Tessa, way easier, she's right!—Tessa's mad ravings did she say that it is ELENA who is Stefan's true love (except to get under Damon's skin, but hey, who doesn't do that to get under Damon's skin, amirite?). It's simply shadow selves finding shadow selves and you know what? Katherine is as much of a shadow self of Amara as is Elena. And remember, Katherine was the first person to use the phrase "shadow self." On most shows, I wouldn't think that matters so much, but on this show, little things like that often do.

Elena is not the only shadow self that Stefan is fated to love who is around, Katherine is too. And as we saw in this episode, Katherine got the same dream that Elena did. And Katherine reminded us in this episode, she still cares about Stefan, in fact, she pointed out that her level of feelings for Stefan were on par with Elena's. And we just got a full episode in which her storyline covered a fair amount of that episode that highlighted her slowly emerging humanity. *And* we even saw part of a spark of that humanity in her scene with Elena in this episode... which means it's a continuing plot point.

Finally, don't you all find it a tad interesting that this story with Silas and Stefan and Elena and Amara and doppelgangers is playing out when Katherine is playing SUCH a huge part of the show… possibly the largest role she's played on the show to date? I certainly do. And I simply cannot believe that it's not intentional. Just you wait, I think it's very, very likely that Elena and Stefan's great, fated love is the red herring of all of this. Because here's one other key thing to remember: Stefan and Katherine are the one love story that has been introduced on this show that has yet to receive anything close to closure. Uh huh.

ETA: I can NOT believe that I forgot this. Someone pointed out below that in the flashback, Silas told Amara "When I look at you, I see an angel." In one of the flashbacks in "Memory Lane," Stefan told Katherine, "I look at you and I see an angel." Pretty telling, that Stefan used almost the exact words to Katherine that Silas had said to Amara. I could be wrong as I am not even remotely a Stefan/Elena aficionado, but I don't believe he's ever said anything similar to Elena.

Continuing talk of Katherine… we also may get the number one answer related to her new state with the arrival of Tessa. Can she become a vampire again? I wonder when they'll have the chance to ask our dear, crazy-cakes Tessa, and I do hope they have that chance. And another couple of questions to ask her… will she be able to make other cures? For Elena? For Stefan? Tyler? (If so, will he be easier to kill? KThanxBai!) For Damon? If there's more than one and Elena wants it, will he take it to be with Elena? What about Bonnie coming back now? Is Tessa alive, has she managed to bring herself back and if she has, can she do the same for Bonnie?

And for me the viewer, will we see Tessa again? And pretty please let the answer be yes, because, my goodness was she freaking entertaining as all get-out. Damn, that girl can act! Janina Gavankar effortlessly came on-screen and pretty much owned the hour and I say this even while staring at the pretty of Ian Somerhalder. (Admittedly this was a pretty low-key Damon hour, which happens very rarely.) She not only can act, she's dang charismatic. As I was sitting there in awe at the utter crazy-cakes on display, I was feeling sympathy for her, in awe at her brilliance, and just jaw-dropping at how completely, well, fucked up this chick is! And I just did not want to stop watching her.

Even if she really, really was crazy. But, hey, at least she was well aware of the crazy! And speaking of that, let us talk about her whole spiel to Damon about the whole soulmates of the shadow selves. So, let's say that part of her psychosis is not, well, psychotic.

Uhm, the fact that the Silas and Amara doppelgangers keep finding each other over the course of *two thousand freaking years* and yet have never gotten it together, well, doesn't that kinda say that maybe they aren't, erm, soulmates meant to be together? But rather that they're being, oh, I dunno, punished throughout time or something? Maybe their punishment is to fall in love and then feel the loss of that love because of how they hurt and betrayed Quetsiyah. Just something to kinda ponder maybe, I think. Considering the whole long-ass passage of time where they just can't get it right… could be fate telling them something, ya think?

What I don't think, I know, is something that I mentioned in the last episode write-up that I was fine with “whatever connection Stefan and Elena share, however far it goes back, [because] Damon and Elena's love was strong enough to overcome it.” This episode takes that one step further and actually made it that much stronger because it's not just Stefan and Elena, it's countless doppelgangers, shadowselves, it's countless Silas and Amara stand-ins. Basically that's all Stefan and Elena are to each other… Silas and Amara stand-ins… lovers who were never meant to be, who never got a happy ending and who it appears that time has continued to punish for two thousand years.

Damon and Elena? They are a one-in-a-lifetime. They are the real thing. They have fought to be together. They have overcome this fated destiny, this pre-ordained punishment… their love is real. And they are not going to let the rantings of some two thousand year old witch dictate their life, their love. And I love seeing that. I love seeing *Damon* fighting for them, for their love…. Because she is his life. *sigh*

 

As much as I loved that scene, loved that Damon is fighting for them, it wasn't my favorite scene with them because I can't help but think that Damon was trying to convince himself as much as Elena. He wants to believe that they can overcome destiny, but I so heard fear in his voice. Which makes sense, he finally got the girl, but Stefan wasn't around and now not only is he back, but there's some all-powerful witch telling him that Elena was fated to be with Stefan. Of course it's gonna mess with his already fragile self-esteem issues.

So while it was lovely to hear him say he isn't just giving up, the fear was there, so yeah, it was painful to hear. However, the scene that I unabashedly loved was in the bar when Elena was taking charge, telling Damon to go after Stefan while she went after Katherine. I loved how he pulled her hand to him, I don't know why, just how he needed to know she'd be safe. And then when she started to take off again, how he used his words to stop her, frustration clear in his tone, but he wasn't forcing her, he just needed her to listen to him, and so she did, she stopped and she listened.

 

And then he talked about how precious she was, every strand of her hair being worth more than all of her Katherine and the look she beamed at him and he told her to kiss him and she did and AHHHH! It was just so beautiful. I loved it so much. So, so, so much.

 

I think the show has done an excellent job in showing that Katherine is not really able to get under Elena's skin. Damon has really made it clear that he is completely head over heels for Elena and so completely over Katherine, so Elena is not jealous of her. Katherine tries to drive a wedge when it comes to Stefan, and I think that bothers Elena a little, but I don't think it's because she has romantic feelings for him, but because she knows that Damon worries about that. Other than that, frankly, I think Katherine's biggest power over Elena is that she simply annoys her. Oh, Katherine.

Like when she just walks into their bedroom. Admittedly, I would have preferred to see more sexytiems in the bed, but I never don't enjoy seeing naked!Damon, especially when he looks that good—and yes, I totes grabbed this first gif because of how good he looked. And I grabbed the second because, hee! funny, Elena and funny Damon, always fun. Not much for the sexy or romantic in the bed there, but I did like the honesty all-around. And that is very, very good. Good Damon and Elena. Good, good, good! Now for the pretty! And the funny!

 

And the randoms…

- Wow, there were only ten characters (and two of them included Jo the bartender and Amara who was in one split-second of a scene) and five of those characters were split between three actors. I think this may be the lowest character count of any episode.

- The sign of a good episode? Until the preview showed Jeremy, I didn't even realize that he, Bonnie and Caroline weren't in the episode and you all know how much I love them!

- So, Silas wants Katherine so he can what drain the blood from her body to synthesize the cure? That's really creepy. And totally Silas-like. Yeah, he's about as whacked-out as Tessa at this point.

- Zach Roerig did really good with the creepy-European Traveler guy voice and pissed-off murdered dude. I'm not terribly worried about Matt biting it, and am confident that Nadia's plan will fail miserably. At this point, while I know that the big three are undeniably safe… I think that one Mr. Matt Donovan will be the other one that either makes it the end of this show's run alive and kicking *or* he'll die in the second to the last frame. Because, you know, The Vampire Diaries. And then I will cry. HARD!

- Speaking of Matt, I really like how they used Matt and Rebekah's summer sexcapades to weave Matt into this Silas story pretty organically. Niiiice.

- Not so nice? I'm not terribly fond of the actress, Olga Fonda, playing Nadia. She's just not doing it for me. Unlike the sublime Janina Gavankar, Fonda is just NOT cutting it for me at all. I keep trying to cut her some slack, and it ain't happening.

- However, I am interested in the Travelers. What are they? They've been around for at least two thousand years now. Silas was one, as was Quetsiyah. And now Nadia is one as well. Very interesting. What do they do, what is their mission? I am muy curious.

- I had assumed in last week's write-up that we would find out how Stefan got out of the safe and we did indeedy and it made perfect sense. Thank you, show. I love when you reward my faith. :)

- So, no Ripper!Stefan, eh? I'm a wee disappointed. On one hand I wish they hadn't set that up, but on the other hand it was a fair set-up. Still, yeah, I'm disappointed.

- On the other other hand, Stefan with no memory? Fun! At least, I hope so! Oh, and next week's preview? I refuse to get worked up about that. There is no way there's not something hinky going on there. I don't buy that Elena's gonna be all up in Stefan's grill like that without something going on when she's with Damon as she is now. Elena just isn't built that way. Period. Even if she *was* in love with Stefan, she wouldn't do that since she is Damon's girlfriend, but it doesn't matter because she's not in love with Stefan. She's in love with Damon. Period. Full-stop. End of discussion. Thank you very much. So, yes, something hinky is going on, thank you, CW promo-monkeys and your silly, fan-baiting ways of sucktitude. :)

- Ooh, great episode title!

- OK, I'm saving my two notes of negativity for the end. I'm sorry, but yeah, this season has officially put the nail in the coffin for any high praise I might have ever had for Paul Wesley as an actor. He's fine, don't get me wrong, but not great. Nope, pretty one-note. He simply has not risen to the occasion at all as Silas in my opinion. And seeing him as Silas from 2,000 years ago before he turned evil and bitter, well, he was a Greek (Roman?) Stefan. No difference. Same damn character. When you've got someone like Nina Fucking Dobrev differentiating her characters from human to vampire to human pretending to be vampire to vampire pretending to be human in several different centuries, etc. flawlessly, it's just glaring in contrast. Sorry, Paul. You do not even remotely measure up. At all. Nope.

- The one writing negative I have is the tired cliché of Elena running in to save Stefan and not seeing Damon in the corner so she was worrying over Stefan and not helping Damon. I mean, really? I hate stuff like that, so lame. Because does anyone with a brain cell honestly think that if she had seen her boyfriend she wouldn't have been, ‘Oh, Damon! What happened? Are you alright?' and she wouldn't have rushed his side? Of course she would have. So I hate crap like that. Manufactured drama that this show is normally better than.

But…. Other than that, I quite enjoyed this episode a lot. I mean, really how could I not? To sum up what we learned: Damon and Elena are once-in-a-lifetime, Stefan and Elena? Eh, dime a dozen. As I said at the top, it took me forever to post because sinus infection, medicine made me very, very sleepy. So far, this season has been very interesting and giving us a lot of information, but in very subtle, read-between-the-lines ways. I like. :) And I'm very, very, very much enjoying. Great, great episode all-around. :D
 
 
 
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Arabian: Elijah & Katherine04arabian on October 20th, 2013 07:54 am (UTC)
Thank you. I'm glad that I waited to write this and didn't rush to get it done through my exhaustion. I knew that I wanted to really devote my actual brain power to it because there was a lot going on there.
Bogwitch: TVD - Katherinebogwitch on October 19th, 2013 12:20 pm (UTC)
This whole doppelganger thing is giving me a headache! I thought I'd signed up for a vampire show...

What I don't get is why there are aren't more them running around. Vampirism stirs the pot and they find themselves attracted to any other doppelgangers they meet, but what is the point of nature creating Silas/Amara doppelgangers centuries apart? Therefore, Stefan shouldn't be fated to be with either Katherine or Elena, but a doppelganger alive in 1864 and there should be another Silas doppelganger around for Elena now. Yet none of these seem to have met the one they were fated for in their own time have they?

>>Silas was one, as was Quetsiya

Were they? I missed that. Hmm.

>>this season has officially put the nail in the coffin for any high praise I might have ever had for Paul Wesley as an actor

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

>>I think that one Mr. Matt Donovan will be the other one that either makes it the end of this show's run alive and kicking *or* he'll die in the second to the last frame

Why is the universe punishing me? What I have I done????

>>The one writing negative I have is the tired cliché of Elena running in to save Stefan and not seeing Damon in the corner so she was worrying over Stefan and not helping Damon.

I think they must be going somewhere with that. They have always made a point of Damon's insecurities, but this season they have been highlighting them very strongly and underlinging them in red pen. Will Damon eventually crack?

Hope you feel better soon! I must get round to actually watching The Originals so I can go and be snarky on those points too!
Arabian: Katherine05arabian on October 20th, 2013 08:17 am (UTC)
I don't think vampirism has anything to do with it actually. I think that Stefan, Katherine and now Elena are possibly the only vampires of the mix. And, again, this is all coming from Tessa/Quetsiya/crazy-cakes witch extraordinaire. How much of what she says do we know is actually true?

Were they? I missed that. Hmm.

Yup, they were Travelers.

Why is the universe punishing me? What I have I done????

I did think of you. I did. Sorry he hasn't grown on you. I do feel your pain because you know I feel that way about Tyler, but alas, Matt doesn't take off for chunks of time like Tyler does at least.

I think they must be going somewhere with that. They have always made a point of Damon's insecurities, but this season they have been highlighting them very strongly and underlinging them in red pen. Will Damon eventually crack?

Well, I think they highlighted them pretty strongly last season, and I honestly figured that once Damon and Elena got together, they'd be highlighted again. When I found out that Stefan would be gone most of their "honeymoon" phase I figured his return would amp it up, but this just is gonna send it into to overdrive.

Hope you feel better soon!

Already am, thanks. :)
tj2013: pic#120865641tj2013 on October 19th, 2013 01:55 pm (UTC)
First, I hope you get better soon. Did you catch that infection from Kat? Because she seemed better this week... No, seriously, get some rest!!!
Thanks for your great recap. I agree with everything and it is great to read your thoughts because you can put into clear words what I am thinking, but is kinda blurry.

If Tessa told the truth, then the Stelena-epic love is a big fat lie. Then Elena never had a choice, and Stefan neither. And wasn't Stefan all about let Elena make her own choice blah blah? There it goes down the drain...
Damon and Elena? They are a one-in-a-lifetime. They are the real thing. They have fought to be together. This!!


when Katherine is playing SUCH a huge part of the show… possibly the largest role she's played on the show to date? I certainly do. And I simply cannot believe that it's not intentional. Just you wait, I think it's very, very likely that Elena and Stefan's great, fated love is the red herring of all of this. Because here's one other key thing to remember: Stefan and Katherine are the one love story that has been introduced on this show that has yet to receive anything close to closure. Uh huh.

The way you put it, that sounds very likely. Good point.

Zach? Awesome. Better than Paul. Gosh, they actually put him in a toga?? And the hair!!! What were they thinking???? Wost. Flashback. Ever. (concerning the make up department). I had to stop watching for a sec because I was laughing so hard. And I don't think that was the reaction they intended.

But overall - very good episode and no, I am also not getting worked up by next week's promo. No way.
Arabian: Damon14arabian on October 20th, 2013 08:58 am (UTC)
First, I hope you get better soon. Did you catch that infection from Kat? Because she seemed better this week... No, seriously, get some rest!!!

Haha! I already feel better, thanks. :)

If Tessa told the truth, then the Stelena-epic love is a big fat lie. Then Elena never had a choice, and Stefan neither. And wasn't Stefan all about let Elena make her own choice blah blah? There it goes down the drain...

Yup, it's never been about choice with them. It's all about pre-destined BS. And Damon and Elena's love overcame that. HAH!

Zach? Awesome. Better than Paul.

Gosh, they actually put him in a toga?? And the hair!!! What were they thinking????

Aww, I actually liked the curls. And to be fair, that is how men wore their hair back then. They were thinking of the time period.

But overall - very good episode and no, I am also not getting worked up by next week's promo. No way.

I was wondering if it's a major fake-out and if it's KATHERINE he's talking to, almost kissing? That would be hysterical. Either way, I mean, I know it's not what it seems.
dancing till the world ends: tvd: if I told you to jump off a bridgelynnenne on October 19th, 2013 02:39 pm (UTC)
Your Stefan/Katherine thoughts are interesting. Now that Stefan's memory is wiped, I can't see that Katherine would not try to take advantage of that.

Damon's insecurities were writ large in this episode. I think this, more than anything, will be the obstacle that gets in between him and Elena this season.

Qetsiyah was AMAZING. Crazy-cakes woman can stay.

Arabian: Damon & Elena21arabian on October 20th, 2013 09:03 am (UTC)
Your Stefan/Katherine thoughts are interesting. Now that Stefan's memory is wiped, I can't see that Katherine would not try to take advantage of that.

Ah, but with her being human, her humanity shining through and her genuine feelings for Stefan, I wonder how she would be effected? Hmmm..............

Damon's insecurities were writ large in this episode. I think this, more than anything, will be the obstacle that gets in between him and Elena this season.

As I said above to someone else, I think they highlighted his insecurities pretty strongly last season, and I honestly figured that once Damon and Elena got together, they'd be highlighted again. When I found out that Stefan would be gone most of their "honeymoon" phase I figured his return would amp it up, but this just is gonna send it into to overdrive. If they are an obstacle with him and Elena, I hope it's done in such a way so that we do see Elena and Damon really deal with them because that is the one thing that Elena turning her switch off kept from happening that I hoped we'd get to see happen. This could give us that.

Qetsiyah was AMAZING. Crazy-cakes woman can stay.

I don't think she will, but yes, I want to enjoy her as long as she's here, because AWE-SOME!
Matt: Ghidorahghidorah15 on October 19th, 2013 02:53 pm (UTC)
Do get better soon, Jenn. Sickness is never pretty.

So yeah - I loved this episode, aside from the one false note with Elena not noticing Damon in the corner and being all concerned over Stefan. Maybe Qetsiyah/Tessa was working some kind of mind-rape to make her do that? Maybe that's what's going on next week, because the deranged witch wants to punish Damon for rejecting her offer? I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyway, quick points. Yes, Paul Wesley is just lacking as an actor, good within his limits but nothing else; Qetsiyah has proved a much more intimidating villain in her very first appearance after all that build-up last season for Silas; Zach Roerig pleasantly surprised me, I didn't know he had it in him; I don't mind Nadia's actress, but Rebekah remains my favorite; Nina Dobrev was in top form as both Elena and Katherine, she needs to win an Emmy or something because she has skill; Damon needs to overcome his insecurities (with Elena's help) and prove the naysayers dead wrong; Stefan/Elena is an overblown lie manufactured by some warped force of nature, whereas Delena is one true love, so the trolls have nothing to stand on; this show remains awesome.

Eheh - 'nuff said.

Edited at 2013-10-19 02:54 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Damon04arabian on October 20th, 2013 09:05 am (UTC)
Do get better soon, Jenn. Sickness is never pretty.

Thanks, I already do feel better. :)

So yeah - I loved this episode, aside from the one false note with Elena not noticing Damon in the corner and being all concerned over Stefan. Maybe Qetsiyah/Tessa was working some kind of mind-rape to make her do that? Maybe that's what's going on next week, because the deranged witch wants to punish Damon for rejecting her offer? I wouldn't be surprised.

Hmm, you could be right, and good call that that might be what's going on next week. I was also thinking that it could be Katherine, but yours makes a bit more sense!

Anyway, quick points. Yes, Paul Wesley is just lacking as an actor, good within his limits but nothing else; Qetsiyah has proved a much more intimidating villain in her very first appearance after all that build-up last season for Silas; Zach Roerig pleasantly surprised me, I didn't know he had it in him; I don't mind Nadia's actress, but Rebekah remains my favorite; Nina Dobrev was in top form as both Elena and Katherine, she needs to win an Emmy or something because she has skill; Damon needs to overcome his insecurities (with Elena's help) and prove the naysayers dead wrong; Stefan/Elena is an overblown lie manufactured by some warped force of nature, whereas Delena is one true love, so the trolls have nothing to stand on; this show remains awesome.

Other than that Nadia sucks, I agree wholeheartedly and 100%. :D
faith5by5_1013: The Vampire Diaries: Damon/Elena: Smilefaith5by5_1013 on October 19th, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
I hope you feel better soon!

I do agree that it's kind of funny how everyone is ignoring the Katherine factor in this whole doppelganger thing. I don't ship Katherine/Stefan, but I do find them more interesting than Stefan/Elena (who completely bore me as a couple). But I'd rather none of it.

And for me the viewer, will we see Tessa again? And pretty please let the answer be yes, because, my goodness was she freaking entertaining as all get-out. Damn, that girl can act! Janina Gavankar effortlessly came on-screen and pretty much owned the hour and I say this even while staring at the pretty of Ian Somerhalder. (Admittedly this was a pretty low-key Damon hour, which happens very rarely.) She not only can act, she's dang charismatic. As I was sitting there in awe at the utter crazy-cakes on display, I was feeling sympathy for her, in awe at her brilliance, and just jaw-dropping at how completely, well, fucked up this chick is! And I just did not want to stop watching her.

*agrees completely*

Maybe their punishment is to fall in love and then feel the loss of that love because of how they hurt and betrayed Quetsiya.

That's definitely a possibility. And one I hadn't thought of until you said it.

Damon and Elena? They are a one-in-a-lifetime. They are the real thing. They have fought to be together. They have overcome this fated destiny, this pre-ordained punishment… their love is real. And they are not going to let the rantings of some two thousand year old witch dictate their life, their love. And I love seeing that. I love seeing *Damon* fighting for them, for their love…. Because she is his life. *sigh*

Again, *agrees completely*

Honestly, I have never had high praise for Paul Wesley as an actor. Which is probably why I like it so much when he plays evil. Because then at least I can tell he's having fun, even if he's not doing a great job.

Not a fan of the manufactured drama thing either.
Arabian: Damon & Elena21arabian on October 20th, 2013 09:01 am (UTC)
I hope you feel better soon!

I do, thank you.

I do agree that it's kind of funny how everyone is ignoring the Katherine factor in this whole doppelganger thing.

It's GOT to be deliberate with the Katherine having the dream too and yet that plot point was explained but then just as quickly thrown away? And then the reminder that Katherine cares about Stefan? Uh huh!!

I don't ship Katherine/Stefan

I MUCH prefer Katherine/Elijah and Stefan/Caroline, but Katherine/Stefan was my first ship for the other, and I do want closure for them.

Not a fan of the manufactured drama thing either.

Everything else was so good, and that was sooooooooo lame! Ugh!
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Thank you for your insights again and I hope you get well really soon. :)
Arabian: Elena11arabian on October 20th, 2013 08:18 am (UTC)
Thanks for commenting and I am feeling better already. :)
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La vida de lloronalaudanumdream on October 19th, 2013 11:02 pm (UTC)
Delena are endgame. We all know that. They built the relationship from Season 1. This is just an excuse to keep the triangle alive. That's all it is.

Plus, how can we trust Qetsiyah anyway? She's a crazy bitch... self-admittedly so. Additionally, most of her interaction with Stefan was to "set the record" straight about her side of the story. This means we don't know WHOSE perspective to trust.
Arabian: Damon & Elena09arabian on October 20th, 2013 07:58 am (UTC)
Exactly, it's keeping the triangle alive, but it's doing it in such a way that's so completely deconstructing Stefan and Elena in a way that I didn't think was even possible. I mean, WOW! I just... WOW! I know that their fans are cheering and crowing, but whoah! I'd be wailing and gnashing my teeth right now if I were them. I'm so glad I'm not.

No, we do NOT know the whole story at all. But I'll tell ya, if Silas is anything like Stefan in how he tells his side of stories, I'm all for thinking Quetsiyah/Tessa's side is still more reliable than his, LOL! But yeah, this is TVD, no way we have the whole story by episode three.
Florencia: DE (5x02)florencia7 on October 20th, 2013 06:20 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry about your infection :[ GET WELL SOON ♥ ♥ ♥ & *HUGS* (I was talking antibiotics for my tooth & they were making me feel sleepy too. I don't like when meds do that.)

I was SO impatient to read this post! :D TVD experience is not complete without you ♥

For all the reasons that I can & cannot explain I loved this episode ridiculously much lol I just LOVED LOVED LOVED it!

I love that the *universe*, *destiny*, all the villains & basically all the most powerful cliches ever are against DE. I didn't dare to hope for such an amazing development, but it's where we're headed. DE love is going to prove to be stronger that EVERYTHING & it's going to be beautiful ♥

I also LOVED Quetsiya! What a FABULOUS casting choice. Can we please trade Tyler for her & make her a regular??? lol

The bar scene was my favorite too! It was just perfect, so them. You could feel how CLOSE they are, how comfortable, happy they are with each other. How well they know each other.

The 1st DE in bed gif reminds me of how Elena turned toward Damon in 3x19. She did a similar thing with her pillow.

I loved that the final scene happened in front of the fireplace. I loved the song. I LOVED Elena's comment about Stefan being lucky to have Damon for a brother (re: Damon's words to her in 3x10! Heh!)

I think Elena running to Stefan moment was more about DAMON'S perception of it rather than what actually happened. It was clear in that part of the scene we were given that Elena didn't ignore Damon & ran to Stefan, but rather for objective reasons just didn't notice Damon right away (she obviously did notice later, off screen, unfortunately).

Paul has better & worse moments as Silas IMHO. Still, I'd be very glad if Silas decided to take over Shane's body instead ;)

The only negative thing I have to say about this ep is that... the cure is back!??!?! SO not happy about that LOL (Although I like the popular theory that the show will end with vampire!DE & human!SK.)

It's always sooooo wonderful to read your thoughts!!! ♥
Arabian: Damon & Elena32arabian on October 20th, 2013 09:12 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry about your infection :[ GET WELL SOON ♥ ♥ ♥ & *HUGS* (I was talking antibiotics for my tooth & they were making me feel sleepy too. I don't like when meds do that.)

Yeah, the woozy, sleepy feeling is not fun. But I do feel better! :)

For all the reasons that I can & cannot explain I loved this episode ridiculously much lol I just LOVED LOVED LOVED it!

Rebecca Sonnenshine is a very lovely writer. I completely get why you loved it.

I love that the *universe*, *destiny*, all the villains & basically all the most powerful cliches ever are against DE. I didn't dare to hope for such an amazing development, but it's where we're headed. DE love is going to prove to be stronger that EVERYTHING & it's going to be beautiful ♥

The director tweeted the writers and said -- *Damon & Elena against the Universe, beautiful script.* Something like that. so you read that right, LOL! AWESOME!

I also LOVED Quetsiya! What a FABULOUS casting choice. Can we please trade Tyler for her & make her a regular??? lol

Ah, she was amazing!

I loved that the final scene happened in front of the fireplace. I loved the song. I LOVED Elena's comment about Stefan being lucky to have Damon for a brother (re: Damon's words to her in 3x10! Heh!)

Funny thing, that song was by Sara Bareilles who sang "Gravity" which played over S/E's first kiss. And the song that played in over icons was sung by Plumb which played over their first (only) love scene. So it's like in the first couple episodes of D/E's coupledom, in this big we will overcome all things scenes, they are playing songs sung by the singers that played by SE singers. I find that kinda hilarious, LOL!

I think Elena running to Stefan moment was more about DAMON'S perception of it rather than what actually happened.

Interesting. And I can see that because of how it was shot. Someone above suggested it was Tessa/Quetsiya putting it in his head (which could be what is the preview next week too). Possible.

Still, I'd be very glad if Silas decided to take over Shane's body instead ;)

If only. We'd still have that actor. *sigh* But we wouldn't have dime a dozen S/E.

The only negative thing I have to say about this ep is that... the cure is back!??!?! SO not happy about that LOL (Although I like the popular theory that the show will end with vampire!DE & human!SK.)

Oh, I'm so fine with that. But, but, but.... Katherine and Elijah!!!!!! WHINES!

It's always sooooo wonderful to read your thoughts!!! ♥

Lovely to hear yours. ♥
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bangel_4e: damonbangel_4e on October 20th, 2013 12:59 pm (UTC)
How are you now???? I hope it's getting better :(


Oh, we pretty much agree on everything.

I'll start with the promo for next week. In the first split second that I saw it I was like "THE FUCK IS THIS" but right after that, I just shrugged. Really? Like, after the wonderful moment Delena-against-the-universe they gave us and the place they're in now as a couple and Elena being who she is, WHO could honestly think that would truly happen?? Like, for real.
I get maybe one of two scenes of the promo might be real (like when they bump into each other) but that kiss? Hell no. So I actually can't wait to see the next episode. Yep, yep. Plus, I have one more reason not to be worried for next episode but I can't say a word so I'll change topic.

Katherine. I adore Katherine. That always has to be said. And yep, both people and characters underestimate her. While I do believe she might love Stefan in her heart, if she can truly gain back her human feelings/actions, I don't really believe Tessa planted the vision in her head...I don't remember if she confirms this when Damon arrives to this conclusion but the fact that she didn't care if she was there or not is really weird. Why lure her there?

Tessa's mad ravings did she say that it is ELENA who is Stefan's true love (except to get under Damon's skin, but hey, who doesn't do that to get under Damon's skin, amirite?). It's simply shadow selves finding shadow selves and you know what? Katherine is as much of a shadow self of Amara as is Elena. And remember, Katherine was the first person to use the phrase "shadow self." On most shows, I wouldn't think that matters so much, but on this show, little things like that often do.

Uhm, you know..I hadn't thought about that. I didn't even think that Katherine is THERE. And she IS another version of Amara.


Damon and Elena? They are a one-in-a-lifetime. They are the real thing. They have fought to be together. They have overcome this fated destiny, this pre-ordained punishment… their love is real. And they are not going to let the rantings of some two thousand year old witch dictate their life, their love. And I love seeing that. I love seeing *Damon* fighting for them, for their love…. Because she is his life. *sigh*

THIS. THIS. THIS. And everything you said about Stefan/Elena as shadow selves. Oh, wow..right now, I'm really inclined to say this show is gonna make Damon/Elena endgame. They will overcome everything and it's gonna be so amazing AND real. I'm just so happy.
Even for the Damon speech and THE WAY she looks at him. Yep, there's a hint of fear but that's also good for me...I mean, it's Damon..his issues are softened but not disappeared forever.
And I also agree about the bar scene...when he tells her that and she smiles and awwwwwwwwww.


the sign of a good episode? Until the preview showed Jeremy, I didn't even realize that he, Bonnie and Caroline weren't in the episode and you all know how much I love them!
YEP.

And also..I don't like the actress who plays Nadia as well. It's like watching a block of ice trying to act. I just don't care and don't feel.
The actress who plays Tessa instead..HELLO! She was SO good. Very entertaining, amazing portrayal of Tessa's craziness (BITCH IS CRAZY!) and dark humor and stuff. Really great.

MATT! ZACH! Oh, my heart. He was great and I love they're giving him more to do. The fact is..I truly fear he could leave us sooner or later. :(

The one writing negative I have is the tired cliché of Elena running in to save Stefan and not seeing Damon in the corner so she was worrying over Stefan and not helping Damon. I mean, really? I hate stuff like that, so lame. Because does anyone with a brain cell honestly think that if she had seen her boyfriend she wouldn't have been, ‘Oh, Damon! What happened? Are you alright?' and she wouldn't have rushed his side? Of course she would have. So I hate crap like that. Manufacture drama that this show is normally better than.


Yeah..I was just shaking my head while watching this. REALLLY????

Edited at 2013-10-20 01:00 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Damon & Elena20arabian on October 21st, 2013 06:04 am (UTC)
Katherine. I adore Katherine. That always has to be said. And yep, both people and characters underestimate her.

Exactly. Katherine is awesome and there is a reason she is so front and center this season. Uh huh.

While I do believe she might love Stefan in her heart, if she can truly gain back her human feelings/actions, I don't really believe Tessa planted the vision in her head...I don't remember if she confirms this when Damon arrives to this conclusion but the fact that she didn't care if she was there or not is really weird. Why lure her there?

I honestly think it was the writers giving a reason to the viewers for why they put the dream in her head to throw them off the scent of Katherine being the one.

Uhm, you know..I hadn't thought about that. I didn't even think that Katherine is THERE. And she IS another version of Amara.

Ah, I'd forgotten this, but someone reminded me and I added this to my post: Silas told Amara "When I look at you, I see an angel." In one of the flashbacks in "Memory Lane," Stefan told Katherine, "I look at you and I see an angel." Pretty telling, that Stefan used almost the exact words to Katherine that Silas had said to Amara. I could be wrong as I am not even remotely a Stefan/Elena aficionado, but I don't believe he's ever said anything similar to Elena. UH HUH!

I'm really inclined to say this show is gonna make Damon/Elena endgame.

Well I've been saying that for how long now? LOL!

The fact is..I truly fear he could leave us sooner or later. :(

I don't know, I just think he's gonna be around till the end. Or maybe he'll move to New Orleans. ;)
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(Anonymous) on October 20th, 2013 04:04 pm (UTC)
Your reviews make me feel better. Thank you! I was a bit worried initially but yeah your review opened my mind and it is amazing. And DE against the universe!
Arabian: Damon & Elena05arabian on October 21st, 2013 05:25 am (UTC)
Thank you. I'm glad I could make you feel better. I thought this episode was SO good for us. :D
(Anonymous) on October 20th, 2013 07:53 pm (UTC)
Hi! Thank you very much for the review. Glad you feeling better!
I was wondering what's your thoughts on the parallel with Silas saying to Amara: "When I look at you - I see an angel" and Stefan telling to Katherine the exact same words in 1864. It was undoubtedly intentional on writers part. I wonder whats the point of that? Was it a way to show that this Destined Feelings that doppelgangers have are nothing real or their own and just a carbon copy of their Originals feelings - to the point of the same expressions?(That's the impression I got from the scene) Or it is the case only between Stefan and Katherine (because of reasons) and Stelena it's a different - real - case? Or was it to show that Stefan's "Heaven's Match" is Katherine and their history isn't over yet? Any thoughts?
Arabian: Stefan & Katherine01arabian on October 21st, 2013 05:27 am (UTC)
I am thank you!

OMG! I feel so stupid. I can't believe I missed that. You are brilliant. That is SO key. Of course. That convinces me even more that it is Katherine. It absolutely had to have been deliberate. Absolutely. Nope, not that Stefan and Elena are real, but rather that this is more about Stefan and Katherine, not Stefan and Elena. Way too many things pointing to Katherine with misdirection leading to Elena, but it's definitely about Katherine. Oh yeah!
tams71: pic#97498213tams71 on October 21st, 2013 02:16 am (UTC)
Can I say a big hell yes to this comment right here and add an Amen and Hallelujah:

nowhere in all of Quetsiya—OK, you know, what I'm going with Tessa, way easier, she's right!—Tessa's mad ravings did she say that it is ELENA who is Stefan's true love.

Doppelganger, doppelganger, doppelganger. Tessa stressed that word, along with shadow shelf several times. Elena is not the only doppelganger walking around Mystic Falls these days and quite frankly, Elena is not the same person she was when she first met Stefan. She has grown, evolved, and matured. Elena has become her own woman, separate and apart from the role of doppelganger that the universe or Tessa cast her in so very long ago. And I'm sorry, but if these two doppelgangers are meant to be then can someone please explain to me why over the last two thousand years these two dopplegangers, shadowselves, lovers destined to be together, blah, blah, blah still aren't together? Uh, it's because the universe doesn't know jack about who is supposed to be with who, that's why. The only reason why I like this twist is that it will prove to be an epic fail and will help to showcase how Elena and Damon have been and always will be destined to be together. They have fought for their love, they have grown together, and they have endured. That my friends is what true love is all about!

Damon and Elena? They are a one-in-a-lifetime. They are the real thing. They have fought to be together. They have overcome this fated destiny, this pre-ordained punishment… their love is real. And they are not going to let the rantings of some two thousand year old witch dictate their life, their love. And I love seeing that. I love seeing *Damon* fighting for them, for their love…. Because she is his life. *sigh.

Amen sista! Oh that scene. Damon and his unabashed love and devotion for the woman he loves. Be still my heart. I loved both scenes with Damon and Elena because Damon, who is usually so guarded and sarcastic, dropped that bravado he is famous for and put his feelings right out there with no hesitation. I love this Damon! I love Damon any way I get him, but I do LOVE this Damon :)

Still not liking Paul as Silas. Ugh! His scenes when he was Stefan were so much better. I love Paul Wesley, but I for one cannot wait until he is just Stefan again.

Janina Gavankar is AWESOME! She plays crazy, vindictive, and bitchy so perfectly :) Two thumbs up!

Next week's preview? Eh, I'm not going to get worked up about it. Like you said the CW marketing machine is trying to ramp up the triangle angle so this is what they do. Case in point, the Damon/Elena web clip. We were led to believe that Damon didn't give a shit about the horrible nightmare that Elena had about Stefan and then we have them laying side by side in THEIR bed (I do love saying that) talkign about said dream not even a second later.

Zach Roerig is kicking butt so far this season. I love that he is finally being utilized. Yay!

The one writing negative I have is the tired cliché of Elena running in to save Stefan and not seeing Damon in the corner so she was worrying over Stefan and not helping Damon. I mean, really? I hate stuff like that, so lame. Because does anyone with a brain cell honestly think that if she had seen her boyfriend she wouldn't have been, ‘Oh, Damon! What happened? Are you alright?' and she wouldn't have rushed his side? Of course she would have. So I hate crap like that. Manufacture drama that this show is normally better than.

Yeah, this pissed me off as well and made me roll my eyes. I am so over Elena running to Stefan every time he gets a boo boo or falls off the deep end. Show runners we've seen this over and over...let's move on shall we?
Arabian: Damon07arabian on October 21st, 2013 07:12 am (UTC)
Doppelganger, doppelganger, doppelganger. Tessa stressed that word, along with shadow shelf several times. Elena is not the only doppelganger walking around Mystic Falls these days

Yup, and taking in my ETA about Katherine and Amara being the recipient of almost the exact angel line, it's so obvious to me that Elena is the misdirect here. Katherine is SO key!

if these two doppelgangers are meant to be then can someone please explain to me why over the last two thousand years these two dopplegangers, shadowselves, lovers destined to be together, blah, blah, blah still aren't together?

That's my point. I don't they are meant to be together. It's punishment. That makes a lot more sense. They are destined to meet, fall in love and then lose that love.

Next week's preview? Eh, I'm not going to get worked up about it.

I'm wondering if maybe it's Katherine. Hmmmm.

Zach Roerig is kicking butt so far this season. I love that he is finally being utilized. Yay!

Well, I think he's been nicely utilized since the middle half of season 03 once he became Elena's touchstone with who she was. That really helped to bring him into the fold, and then last season, him, Jeremy and Damon to a degree, as well as his relationship (as crazy as it was with Rebekah) kept him there. He's like a calm in the chaos. But hey, I'm a Matt fan-girl, LOL!

Yeah, this pissed me off as well and made me roll my eyes. I am so over Elena running to Stefan every time he gets a boo boo or falls off the deep end. Show runners we've seen this over and over...let's move on shall we?

This!

Still other than that, great episode! :)
MaelJ0714: lipsmaelj0714 on October 21st, 2013 07:14 pm (UTC)
I’m so sorry that you were not feeling well but glad that you are better! Considering the time and effort it takes to write up these posts, thank you for doing so even when you don’t feel your best. They add so much to the show!

Uhm, the fact that the Silas and Amara doppelgangers keep finding each other over the course of *two thousand freaking years* and yet have never gotten it together, well, doesn't that kinda say that maybe they aren't, erm, soulmates meant to be together? But rather that they're being, oh, I dunno, punished throughout time or something?

IMHO, you are spot-on with this. While they are fated by the universe to come together, they are equally fated to never find happiness with each other. And I agree it has to do with Silas and Quetsiya. Silas was a lying, deceitful, manipulative jerk who messed with the wrong witch (talk about a woman scorned!). Unless we missed something with the other dopplegangers, there will always be a conflict keeping them apart – whether it is Quetsiya, vampirism or….Damon. :-D So, yeah, I wouldn’t want to be a Stelena fan right now.

I loved your theory about Katherine and can’t wait to see how that plays out.

The scene that I unabashedly loved was in the bar when Elena was taking charge, telling Damon to go after Stefan while she went after Katherine. I loved how he pulled her hand to him, I don't know why, just how he needed to know she'd be safe.

How GOOD was this scene! For me, it showed Damon is still the same man who retrieved Elena from Slater’s house, went toe to toe with Stefan in the Salvatore hallway when Elena wanted to return to Elijah, and fed Elena his blood because he couldn’t lose her. There was the same desperation and fear over her safety now but tempered by three months of love and support from “his life.” Instead of being controlling, he respects her ability to protect herself, is honest in what he feels for her and needs her to do, and trusts that she’ll make the right decisions regarding her safety. And she gets that and reassures him with not one but two kisses. LOVE THAT! (Same with the “Kiss Me.” Reminds me of that sexy, creepy bath tub scene with his “distraction” (hee!) and that this is the same man but in a vastly different place in his life.)

Elena just knows him, understands him, better than anyone else we’ve seen, even from the very beginning. As much as I loved Damon in the final scene, it was Elena that I loved more. I loved that she immediately sensed something was troubling him and the way her smile faded because, when something bothers him, it bothers her, too. I loved the tentative way she questioned him about it because she knows it must have been something someone said that hurt him where he is most insecure. The gentle way she made light of it to let him know she gave it no weight or importance; but when she saw it meant something to him, she immediately went to reassure him, encourage him, defend their love. I just loved her in this scene.

And the expression on Elena’s face when Damon told her he wanted to build a future with her and that she was his life? My goodness, just look at her in those two .gifs! (Have I mentioned just how awesome Nina Dobrev is this season!?!) Damon loves fiercely, with all his heart, body, mind and soul. And that can be scary. I so, so loved what you said in Heart of Darkness:

"Can you imagine how honestly terrifying it would be to be on the receiving end of Damon's love? Right now, her non-admitted recriprocation is all that has kept it at bay. But a Damon who gets that love in return, oh boy! It's going to be beyond any kind of intense she could ever imagine. It's TERRIFYING. Wonderful, crazy, awesome, beautiful ... but terrifying, because there is NO line that he won't cross to keep her safe. None."

And Elena can handle his intensity now. She accepts it and appreciates it for all that it means. I am just so in love with Elena right now, because she is everything my favorite vampire needs.

cont.
Arabian: Damon & Elena20arabian on October 24th, 2013 06:24 am (UTC)
Thanks! I am feeling better. :)

IMHO, you are spot-on with this. While they are fated by the universe to come together, they are equally fated to never find happiness with each other.

Thank you! I can't believe that more people aren't seeing that. I'm all HELLO!?!??! How is that not so clear?!

How GOOD was this scene!

SO GOOD!

For me, it showed Damon is still the same man who retrieved Elena from Slater’s house, went toe to toe with Stefan in the Salvatore hallway when Elena wanted to return to Elijah, and fed Elena his blood because he couldn’t lose her. There was the same desperation and fear over her safety now but tempered by three months of love and support from “his life.”

Aww! I love how you worded this!

I just loved her in this scene.

I guess Elena's actions didn't stand out to me in this scene because that's always Elena, whether with Damon, or Stefan (I know), or Jeremy, or Matt, Bonnie, Caroline, etc. THAT is Elena and that is why I love her so much.

And Elena can handle his intensity now. She accepts it and appreciates it for all that it means. I am just so in love with Elena right now, because she is everything my favorite vampire needs.

Yup, and now she can handle Damon's love. It's awesome and beautiful and I love it. And despite all of the kvetching from D/E fans, she just wasn't ready then, but she is now. :D
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MaelJ0714: lipsmaelj0714 on October 21st, 2013 07:17 pm (UTC)
Yes, Part 2. :-( And I promised myself that I could keep it down to a single comment!

Speaking of favorite vampires, what about that SPEECH?? TVD has always told us one thing while showing another; and for everyone’s talk about Stefan and Elena’s EPIC love (now DESTINY – :sigh:), have we ever seen Stefan make an epic speech such as this? And Damon has so many (“I don’t deserve you,” “I can’t be selfish with you,” “There’s no apology in the world”) Maybe it's just me but it seems like the show wants us to root for this character. They give us this wonderfully layered character with a sexy, badboy exterior and wounded soul, wrap him in a package that looks like Ian Somerhalder, tell him at every opportunity he doesn’t deserve love and will never get it (even the UNIVERSE for God’s sake!) and then have him make speeches like THIS?!? For reals? I mean, COME ON!!!

It really boggles my mind how people can still be for Stelena. Anyway…

- Zach Roerig did really good with the creepy-European Traveler guy voice and pissed-off murdered dude.

Wasn’t Zach fantastic?? He completely transformed into a different character, with different body language, facial expressions, accent. I was really impressed. Not to mention (again!) Nina Dobrev as Elena and Katherine. It highlights even more that Silas is just Stefan being a dick. :-( I tried to be positive but yeah, you are so right. With each successive episode, Silas is more and more a disappointment. LOVED the actress playing Quetsiya/Tessa as well!

Oh, and next week's preview? I refuse to get worked up about that.

So far this season the promos are very misleading (is that different from any other season?). :-) I so looked forward to Elena going at Damon on the 5x02 promo and that ended up being cringe-inducing to me. Everyone was excited for the return of the ‘Rippah’ and that didn’t happen. In next week’s preview, it looks as though Elena is taking Stefan down memory lane in an effort to jump start his memories. And if we can go by the previous two promos, Stelena fans will be disappointed.

- The one writing negative I have is the tired cliché of Elena running in to save Stefan and not seeing Damon in the corner so she was worrying over Stefan and not helping Damon. I mean, really? I hate stuff like that, so lame.

Very lame and VERY tired. I really think it’s a cheap ploy to keep fans rooting for Damon (see above). :-) Kind of like the aborted kiss in the final scene. Please. At this point in their relationship, Damon is still being cockblocked? But I see that as a way to build up anticipation in the viewers for the eventual payoff. WHICH THERE HAD BETTER BE SOME. Again, we are still owed our uninterrupted love scene. ;-D

Again – great episode and fantastic recap. Thank you so much. And I’m so glad that you are feeling better! Looking forward to your next one!!


Edited at 2013-10-21 07:34 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Damon & Elena22arabian on October 24th, 2013 06:29 am (UTC)
And I promised myself that I could keep it down to a single comment!

Hah, if I keep myself down to 2000 words, I'm doing great!

Speaking of favorite vampires, what about that SPEECH??

Yup, Damon is THE epitome of showing us the EPIC. Stefan is all talk, while Damon is all show. :D

Wasn’t Zach fantastic?? He completely transformed into a different character, with different body language, facial expressions, accent.

Really impressed with Zach, I agree.

Not to mention (again!) Nina Dobrev as Elena and Katherine.

Actually, I didn't mention it, but I thought while overall, she was great (per usual), in the woods scene, she was a wee off. Parts of her "Elena" bit felt more Katherine-ish than usual. But hey considering it usually does feel like two different actresses, I'm not gonna ding her too hard at all.

I tried to be positive but yeah, you are so right. With each successive episode, Silas is more and more a disappointment.

Yeah, Paul is not a bad actor, by any means. But this season has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a mediocre a actor. :shrugs:

LOVED the actress playing Quetsiya/Tessa as well!

Janina Gavankar is AMAZING though.

Again, we are still owed our uninterrupted love scene. ;-D

YUP!