If that's a real part of the episode and not a promo transition, it's a very naff job they've done of it.

LOL! kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.

It works much better with SPN's colour palette than TVD's, imo.

She said something similar when talking about it.

Yeah, it's weird. It looks like black smoke. I don't think it's a dream sequence or anything like this, they usually use some blurring effect.

Right, they do. That's why I was thrown. But, kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.

I watched the promo several times and to me it looks like transition from one scene to another. I don't think it's a dream, but it could be a Damon or Elena flashback seeing as how they're planning to have Damon and Elena do the whole romance thing and try to remain abstinent during their "courting" process. I bet with all the hot sex they've been having, they'll both be having a lot of sexytimes dreams until they hit the sheets again ;)

I thought it looked weird too, maybe a flashback. I can imagine Damon would be too afraid of unintentionally taking advantage of Elena if they were to have sex again right now. Unless they just can't help themselves. ;-)

Yeah, it was weird, but kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.

I thought it was just a transition, yeah, but I've never seen TVD promos with that before, but then kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.

I bet with all the hot sex they've been having, they'll both be having a lot of sexytimes dreams until they hit the sheets again ;)

I hope so!

I initially thought it was a dream (also cause it's unclear if they're stopping this or not)...then, reading synopsis and stuff, I think it's pretty real.
Also, the smokey thing...I think it's just transition from the promo.

But promos can be misleading...remember the scene from 4x08 promo? Stefan telling Damon he took advantage of "her"?
Where did the scene go? I may have missed it cause the streaming kept switching.

remember the scene from 4x08 promo? Stefan telling Damon he took advantage of "her"?

Stefan said that in reference to Charlotte when he and Damon were talking about New Orleans and Damon was going through all those old papers looking for the information about the witch, Val.

Yep, I got to see the episode again..my stream skipped right in that moment.

It is so annoying when that happens. I used to watch the East coast live stream because I couldn't stand the anticipation of waiting until 8pm West coast time and that happened to me a lot. Argh!

I am sooooooooo grateful that for 4.07 when I had to use the livestream it behaved perfectly! :D

Yeah, it probably is real, kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.

it might totally be, as if they decide to investigate their feelings and not having sex until they find out that Elena's feelings are real.

But...are we really going through this? Because we all know that her feelings are real. LOL.

Catching up with your review soon :)

Well, kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.

We know her feelings are real, and Elena does, but with Damon's self-esteem issues and no doubt Stefan constantly harping on it, I could see Damon definitely still questioning it all.

I have no doubt Stefan and Caroline wil do their best to influence what both Damon and Elena think.

I think for Damon he's a little worried that the only reason Elena is all about Damon is because of the bond at the moment. Sure he now knows how the bond came to be and all, but he's afraid that if they keep having sex Elena isn't having sex because she loves him, it's because of the bond....they said the bond affects Elena's actions not her feelings. So, Damon may even get the idea that Elena only slept with him in 4.7 because of the bond. Let's face it...human Elena would never sleep with Damon a day after breaking up with Stefan, no matter the reason for the breakup. So it's more about Damon's insecurities and his fear that it's all fake and not really how Elena feels...it's just magnified.

I'm going to bet that Damon is also going to feel extremely guilty for not really letting Elena go like Stefan urged him to do. So, it's possible Damon's guilt is seeping into his and Elena's relationship. If this happens, and how can it not eventually, Elena is probably going to be the one to reassure him and I hope it will also lead her to talk to Stefan and urge him to lay off Damon and stay out of their relationship. She doesn't want to lose Damon and essentially her happiness.

She stood her ground with the girls this episode and I am absolutely positive that Elena will do the same with Stefan.

I agree with all of this.

I was very happy to see Elena stand up for herself with the girls, and would love to see it with Stefan too.

But damon never told Elena to do so, that's why I am afraid he will forget about the "feelings" part and will think that the bond makes everything unreal. Basically because Damon doesn't think he deserved to be loved in the first place.

I'm going to bet that Damon is also going to feel extremely guilty for not really letting Elena go like Stefan urged him to do. So, it's possible Damon's guilt is seeping into his and Elena's relationship. If this happens, and how can it not eventually, Elena is probably going to be the one to reassure him and I hope it will also lead her to talk to Stefan and urge him to lay off Damon and stay out of their relationship. She doesn't want to lose Damon and essentially her happiness.
I think this is what is going to happen too.
I want Damon and Elena to stand up for themselves and try to break the bond without being forced to stay apart. My feeling is that this thing will be resolved with Damon dying by the end of the season and be back in S5, where maybe they will have the chance to be happy.

Hm... It might be a dream & I think I'm going to convince myself that it is, just in case, to avoid feeling unsatisfied ;D

kalishaka said that she's seen that cut on Supernatural promos a lot, so I'm inclined to think it is the promo transition now.