I know. It's gonna be difficult. I roll my eyes so much at them I fear they will fall out one day.

I know it has to happen, be dealt with. I know that. And I think (of the little I know spoiler-wise) there's a very interesting, positive-for-D/E thing to take from what happens, but I AM NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

(WHEE!! FARSCAPE!)

FARSCAPE!

(Er, go re-watch that for happiness?)

If I had the time, I would! :)

Well, if you ever do, let me know. We should definitely set that up. I don't have many Scaper friends other than my sister and my dad, so that would be nice.

Next TV hiatus season, maybe we can do some. I have to find all my Farscapes though, my sister borrowed some and I moved and ugh! It's a mess.

From what I understand you haven't been reading spoilers and I don't blame you but TRUST ME, you want to watch the Stefan and Elena scene. Hell! You WANT TO WATCH the entire episode. Just TRUST ME! ; )

Oh, don't worry, I always watch every scene (even, ugh, Tyler/Caroline scenes), and I do know there's a great Damon scene and some D/E stuff. And I'm optimistic about what stops S/E stuff, heheeheh, I just don't want to watch it. But thank you, this makes me feel a little better.

I'm a die-hard D/Eer, but I am also a die-hard TVDer. I love this show like no other ever before SO HARD.

I agree with Anonymous....from the spoilers I've read, the promos are misleading. Now, that doesn't mean there won't be a bazillion other Stelena moments that the spoilers didn't mention, but right now I feel fairly OK with Thursday's episode. :-P

Yeah I actually predict that we are going to be very happy after thursday's episode LOL!

There will be some Stelena moments but they do have to address Elena's sexual desires and Stefan is her boyfriend but I have a feeling those sexual desires will be addressed with Damon as well so it's not all about Stefan.

I'm fine with some Stelena cute moments, moments like the kitchen scene in the premiere. Even though some of it was a little cheesy, I still thought that bit was cute. So, if they have moments like that i'm okay. It's moments like some of the season 2 stelena stuff that annoys the living daylights out of me!

Oh, see I didn't think the kitchen scene was S/E at all. To me, it was all about Elena. I think any other character who cares about Elena could have been in that scene. I'm OK with S/E as long as they start to deal with Elena having SOME issue with things he's done, the lying, the omitting, reality, KIDNAPPING HER/FORCE-FEEDING HER HIS BLOOD/THREATENING TO KILL HER WHERE HER PARENTS DIED just to get at Klaus. Ahem, you know, just things.

Hah! The promos are so often misleading. I do know enough of what happens with S/E which is why I'm OK, I just don't want to deal with them. But I think I'm handling it well, LOL! I'm expecting a very S/E-heavy first half of the season, on the other hand, I do expect some D/E stuff to counteract it, and that cracks to be there with S/E.

Well, at least we'll get the scene of Elena feeding on Damon (and his face in that scene!). And according to this spoiler roundup: http://damon-elena.livejournal.com/1125848.html#comments Stefan punches Damon because "Damon and Elena got a little too cozy" which could be the blood thing but could be something else interesting that happens. From the promo it doesn't look like Elena's around in that (the punch) scene, but if it was about the blood/feeding on Damon and she WAS there I could actually see her intervening on Damon's behalf (something that hasn't happened much lately).

Oh, sorry if my comment is too spoiler-y for you! I didn't think it was super major but I should've used a spoiler tag just in case (I'm not entirely sure how to do that yet but need to learn for times like this!). Again sorry if you saw you saw something you didn't want to see, I know that can be frustrating! (I was just spoiled majorly over Downton Abbey - UGH!) It was something that related to the promo, which I knew you'd seen, so I wasn't as concerned about it I guess.

I only watched the short promo after the show, which didn't have anything with Stefan/Damon because I saw that line about them and went OOH! MY EYES! and looked away, LOL!

I'm only reading episode synopsis, looking at episode stills and the promo after the show airs. That's all I'm looking at. (Erm, so far, we'll see how long my self-control lasts, LOL!)

You're probably better off not reading too many spoilers because this show's enjoyment factor really depends on the element of surprise.

There is much more great things to come though! GOOD STUFF TOO!

Yeah, I watched the first season mostly in one fell swoop (the first 18 episodes in a week), and it was fabulous. I was pretty heavy into spoilers in season 02, and I went back and forth in season 03. I think it depends a lot on what is going on with my ship, honestly. As for surprises, the fact that I'm writing the fic I am isn't helping because there are a few 'surprises' I have in my fic that are gonna happen on the show (that I outlined after the season finale): Elena drinking from Damon, Rebekah buying Matt a truck (although I made it a different vehicle after being struck by show-related inspiration, LOL), so I'm finding I'm not as surprised by some things as might otherwise have been, LOL!

But, yeah with the state of S/E and D/E, it's better just going with no expectations and as little spoils as possible because the spoilers make both the sides look better or worse depending on whose delivering them.

Ah, yeah that was in the extended promo - it didn't even occur to me that you hadn't seen that since you said you'd seen the promo. The super special "extended" promo is only like 5 seconds longer so I basically consider it the same thing. Sorry, I'll know next time!

Yeah, I thought of specifying that, but I didn't. My bad. :)

Yeah, I'm really not looking forward to so much S/E either, but I'm kinda willing to wait it out. We knew that they will try to give their relationship a chance, so I'm not this bothered. As long as the S/E love fest doesn't continue for too long, that is. What I can’t wait to see though, is the cracks, the issues; I want to witness the inevitable crash and burn of this parody of a relationship. Yes, I'm evil like that.

And when they break up this time, it just has to stick. Otherwise the show will simply turn into an endless cycle of S/E breaking up and making up, and I still have hope that TVD is better than this. And once Elena has finally had some closure with Stefan, they can really start exploring an actual D/E relationship; not a few stolen moments or guilt-ridden make out sessions, but a real, honest relationship.

Lol, I’m feeling especially optimistic today, can you tell? All of the above is pure hopeful speculation, mind, so the show can just as well surprise me in an extremely unwelcome fashion.

Well, read the rest of the comments in this post, might make you feel better! I do think you're right and that will happen what you hope. :)

Yeah, I read them and it helps.

Seriously though, I do feel moderately optimistic if I have to be honest. Thinking about S/E problems and break ups obviously puts me in a rather good mood. :D

I try to stay major spoilers-free also!

And I am a little grumbly about next episode cause hello, no one wants to Stelena getting it on with their backs on a tree but HEY! I'm dying for that DELENA scene
and reading things here reassured me...a bit..cause I can't read too much!

I heard this episode was good for Delena..and that actually makes me happy and scares me at the same time.

I'm actually surprised with my myself, because I'm only a little paranoid about the next episode ;) While I do expect more SE than I can handle, I have this feeling that we're heading into the right direction, even more so than last season.

I remember the times when no one believed Elena would EVER remember 2x08, and here we are, starting a new season with that very scene (and Elena calling it a highlight of her transition ;). Also, from the looks of it, the show is finally going to address Stefan's selective worshipping of Elena's free will and I confess I didn't think it'd ever happen! lol As for the upcoming "hot SE scene" (I just can't write this phrase without " " LOL), I really like how the promo makes it seem (to me at least haha) like it's not about SE or Stefan or love but rather about Elena's enhanced senses... if that makes sense lol

Either way, *HUGS* Don't worry. We'll survive this. We always survive! ;D