Because Elena's now a vampire? Or that she initially chose Stefan? I HATED THAT..but..Delena still lives, she met him first, she will remember everything now.

ETA:However, the Damon/Elena fanbase has been COMPLETELY robbed of ever -- EVER!!! -- getting Damon and human Elena which the vast majority of us wanted

Oh fucking A you're right..UGH NOW I HATE IT

Edited at 2012-05-11 02:01 am (UTC)

Well, they could finagle a way to turn Elena human again. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

No matter how hard I fanwank, there's no coming back from the fact that when she thought they both were dying, she flat-out chose Stefan and told Damon she was setting him free. I understand the flashback, and the 'love that consumes' and that he's in such love with her. She couldn't even tell him she loves him. It's always gonna be Stefan. I'm watching the show wrong. Crying over a stupid fucking show. Maybe I'll calm down tomorrow.

Well, it wasn't just Stefan. I actually said aloud "what about Caroline?" when Matt said Stefan or Damon. it wasn't just Stefan she was saying goodbye to, it was Caroline as well. And Tyler and basically being with EVERYONE she loved ... except for Damon. And they can finagle a way to turn Elena human again. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

Me too! Though I finally caught up with the vampire bit yesterday.

I really don't think you're wrong, wrong though in the long term. I need to think more. 3am is not that time.

I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

Odds that this is an elaborate dream sequence ... ? =P

Non-existent, LOL! I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

So in the end, she chose Stefan. Again. The show letting us know that based on her idiotic reasoning it should've been Damon was kinda useless IMO; we've known that Damon was the right one for her all along and for reasons far more important than the fact that they met first.

And now Elena's turning and in the midst of this new drama she will probably remember that night. And this five-minute meeting before the car crash with the man who's always been there for her, who's protected her and loved her and took care of her, without ever thinking of himself and his heart that got broken again and again will change everything? Excuse me while I remain unconvinced and underwhelmed.

I should try to cool down a bit and get some sleep as it's 5am here.

ETA: You just know that they'll find a way to use the "back to human" magic shit on Elena. I don't see her staying a vampire rn, so I still think she will have a chance to be with Damon as a human. I'm not too excited at the prospect at the moment though. Still too upset.

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I do hope they use magic to turn Elena back to human. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

I edited another ETA about this. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see.

Glad I didn't watch...and probably won't now. I'm not lying when I say I knew this was coming. Didn't think for one moment that it'd be Damon. I just didn't want to argue whenever we talked. Sorry friend. Want that link to BoF? Ehhh, it's probably too comical for all your emotions rn. Let me know.

It wasn't just me, pretty much EVERYONE thought she would choose Damon because that's what the ENTIRE SEASON poitned to. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

Yeah, not right now. Sorry. :(

Ugh Trevino as Klaus. DNW! His acting was barely tolerable in the first place.

I don't know how I feel yet. I need to digest it for a bit. I do solidly think delena is endgame now. I just....really don't like how they handled the entire last half of this season. Too many characters and plots and not enough time to delve deep enough into any of them, causing a bit of a clusterfuck that leaves me feeling a bit off with the whole thing.

Well, they could finagle a way to turn Elena human again. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

I just....really don't like how they handled the entire last half of this season.

I still stand by that other than 12, 13, 18, 20-22 (sadly most of the last batch!) it did all work character-wise. I just ... yeah, the last three episodes having so many issues was NOT a good way to end the season. *sigh*

The forshadowing and the poster and everything pointed to Damon. Why the hell did she pick Stefan?! I don't get it. And in one of the interviews one of them said "A brother she can't live without."- That's Damon. But seriously. We were robbed. I'm just gonna sit back and watch and just enjoy it...for the hell of it and not get involved with it. AND REALLY let Elena DIEEEEEEE to be saved is your big hero moment Stefan? That's SELFISH and that's stupid! I understand that it's Elena, she put's other people FIRST before her own. But really. And Tyler as Klaus...I didn't watch the first part of it cause I was out seeing friends, but basically...ugh. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Let just see how Trevino plays it.

They could finagle a way to turn Elena human again. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

Not very hopeful about Trevino at all. He had his chance to shine, and it hasn't really happened. Not happy about that.

I'm sorry. This was me last night after getting as-good-as-spoiled about Elena turning, I was practically in tears over it, and while I've had enough time to think about it that I've pretty much come around to my own "you know, this might be all right after all" place, I completely get it. I'll miss your TVD posts-- I hope you do post about it from time to time even if you don't do so regularly. *hug* if you'd like one.

Well, they could finagle a way to turn Elena human again. I don't know. I'm hoping that given a few days, a calming down period, I'll feel better. I don't know, though. I don't know. It's not just the Damon/Elena stuff, it's the lack of Stefan-actions follow-through, the keeping of Tyler (in Trevino) and losing Joseph Morgan -- who Candice Accola DOES have chemistry with. It's, well, a lot of things that add up. We'll see how I feel later.

I'm so upset right now that I can't imagine going to town and trying with this show again, but I guess we'll see what happens. It will be hard to completely let go.

Yeah, Elena repeating the same thing from the S2 premiere about "caring" about Damon but loving Stefan kinda made me roll my eyes a little. I feel like they just made a lot of what happened in both S2 and S3 feel completely irrelevant. IDK. There were things I did like but, ah. Overall, what they did showed that they really honestly have no clue what a manipulative jackass Stefan has been.

Completely pointless. Just completely.

Yeah, I might be done too. They wrecked some things that really mattered to me with this episode. And didn't deliver on anything that I was looking for. And it was riddled with contrivances and plotholes. So.

What's in it for me, really?

I'll be posting my ravings later, but yeah. I feel you.

The EW interview with Julie Plec makes it all a thousand times worse.

I completely understand your feeling and have spent the past couple of hours going between pure disgust and giving up or trying to take a rationale breath. Then I read the JP interview on www.ew.com and got depressed again. Her vision for S4 just killed me. Your pain is shared by so many people.

Wow, checked out the interview. She flat-out let us know that we're in for more Stefan/Elena. Wow.

Here's my 2 cents...

Elena loves Damon. She's in love with him, she is consumed by the feelings that he makes her feel. She is afraid of that. She said you should be with the person that makes you glad you're alive--well, she's not alive anymore. She's dead. And that changes everything.

What's interesting to me is that I never thought that much about it, Damon and Elena together while Elena was human...I mean, obviously that's what I've written, but it's because I never let myself really contemplate Vamp!Elena until a ways down the road, not because I was against it, but just, didn't think about it. But obviously the last few episodes made me feel like this was where it was going. And now I'm really glad, because Elena will have to contemplate eternity now. She will have to deal with all the things she has chosen not to deal with up to this point.

I think there is much more interesting stuff ahead on this trajectory. And listen again to some of what she says to Damon when she's "choosing" Stefan--I can't think about always, all I can think about is right now....You're gonna be fine. You hear me? You're gonna be okay, and I'll see you soon. She knows Damon will be fine without her. She thinks Stefan won't be. She's not planning for a future, she's making the only decision she can to be fair. But Damon is not Matt. She has passion with Damon, she has EVERYTHING with Damon, and she knows it. And it's terrifying.

I can understand why you feel the way you do, but I can't even express how much hope this gave me, how certain it's made me about them, and I feel very good about.

(But I am super bummed about Klaus, for sure.)

I hope that helps...and some time and distance usually helps you work things out too.

I'd call you, but I'm have some tummy issues, so I'm sort of not able to talk tonight. Maybe this weekend?

She said you should be with the person that makes you glad you're alive--well, she's not alive anymore. She's dead. And that changes everything.

Nope, doesn't change anything. Per Julie Plec in her new EW interview, Elena and Stefan will actually be together awhile. Yeah, jumping right back into them. Oh, and Elena isn't "in love with Damon" but she "probably" is. Yeah, all we got was a "probably". JFC!

Yeah, I was going to say that I felt the show was clearly going in a Damon/Elena direction, that she's clearly scared of the way he makes her feel and so she's pushing back against that, and that this is just a longer story and Elena becoming a vampire will probably change things a lot (though I know a lot of people wanted Elena and Damon together when she was a human, not a vampire) but that interview sort of takes the wind out of my sails. Not to mention that I'm not happy that it appears that Klaus is gone for good. Fortunately for me, I'm not obsessed with this show - if I were, I'd probably be quite depressed right now. At the moment, though, based on that interview, I'm not exactly dying to see next season. I'll catch it when I can, but I'm not really looking forward to anything.