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25 April 2012 @ 01:44 pm
TVD Ponderings ...  
Sp some random thoughts popped in my head ...

Now this first one I read over on fanforum, so not my thought, but I keep circling back to it.

1.) Rebekah is the first person who told us that a witch can't be a vampire, we found that out vice versa in "All My Children" via Abby's turning. And "All My Children" is the episode that revealed that Esther was going to turn her children into human to kill them all. We know that near the beginning of the next episode Esther taking over Rebekah will be known, and that she'll be expelled (voluntarily, I'm assuming -- no clue where she's going though!). Now in this still from the finale we have this:



Sure, something major could just be going down, but seeing Rebekah a thousand year old vampire cowering like that is, well, unexpected. So I'm wondering ... when Esther jumped into her daughter's body, was part of that spell about making Rebekah human so that she, a witch, could enter her and not lose her power? And if she's human now, what (GOOD??!?!?) things could that potentially mean for Rebekah and Matt? Hmmm.............

2.) The title of 3.21 is "Before Sunrise," and I was wondering, I wonder if whatever plan that Esther has is going to go down AT sunrise, possibly meaning that all of our vampires -- since Esther's plan would involve killing her children, thus ALL vampires -- will die at sunrise. Meaning, we may get some big to-do happenings emotionally-speaking as it gets closer to sun's rise.

I dunno, just pondering.
 
 
 
Cassandra Elise: damon dancingcassandra_elise on April 25th, 2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
All I know is scared Damon scares me! Not that I think he's going to die or anything, LOL, but some serious shite is about to go down.
x5valex5vale on April 25th, 2012 07:22 pm (UTC)
My thought exactly!
Arabian: Damon05arabian on April 25th, 2012 07:48 pm (UTC)
From people who've seen the finale, it's apparently CRAAAAAZY!
ancholiaancholia on April 25th, 2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
Very interesting questions. I have to say, this pic intrigues me a lot because like you said what could scare a thousand years old vampire.
I don't have any theory but I would like to see some originals stay in Mystic Falls and Rebekah is the most likely one I think.
Arabian: Rebekah01arabian on April 25th, 2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
I want Rebekah to be the Original mommy or something anything that keeps her in MF. I LUFF HER SO!!
x5valex5vale on April 25th, 2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
I have read somewhere (maybe Tv Guide) that by the end of the finale, two main characters are in serious danger and they will come out a little different...is it possible that different means human if we talk about vampires or vamps if it's about humans?

Not to mention that spoiler about Bonnie's making a spell with heartbreaking consenquences...might be Elena turning?

I really don't have answers, just lots of questions..LOL!
Arabian: Damon & Elena20arabian on April 25th, 2012 07:48 pm (UTC)
I do not get where this whole Elena is turning thing is coming from. I've seen it everywhere, and I'm all up on the spoilers, and I've read nothing that leads me to think they're going there. I just don't see it. So if it does happen, I will be VERY surprised.

I do think one or more vamps will turn human though. I think that was telegraphed in 3.15, but we'll see.
x5valex5vale on April 25th, 2012 08:34 pm (UTC)
It would surprise me too if Elena turned...I just want the finale to be here, I am curious :)
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on April 25th, 2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
I agree with all of this comment. I've nothing to say about the post really, though I've always wondered the point of Damon's confession to missing being human as it never seemed to connect to anything - could this be that moment?
Arabian: Damon04arabian on April 25th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the whole Damon missing being human, and then Esther's intention to turn her children vampires human just made me sit up and go WHOAH! Wait a minute .....
Cassandra Elise: damon/elena bwcassandra_elise on April 25th, 2012 11:54 pm (UTC)
From what little I know from Wikipedia, Damon turned human for a while during the book series....It's actually the only way he became nice. Unlike our awesome Damon in the television show who's already shown his humanity on more than one occasion. :)

As for Elena turning Vampire, I can see where people are getting this. Joseph Morgan basically said Klaus will be out of commission (but not dead) by the end of the season, and that the season finale will polarize a lot of people. So, I can see how people could interpret that as someone turning Elena into a Vampire in an effort to stop Klaus's evil hybrid schemes.
Arabian: Damon03arabian on April 26th, 2012 03:15 am (UTC)
people could interpret that as someone turning Elena into a Vampire in an effort to stop Klaus's evil hybrid schemes

The only way I could see someone interpret it that way because they forgot Katherine's backstory. When she turned, Klaus killed her ENTIRE VILLAGE and hunted her for 500 years (technically still would hunt and torture her). No way that Elena or any one who loves her would subject her to that. So, yeah, I just don't see it.

Yeah, Damon turns human in the books for awhile, and they take bits and scraps from the books, but I'm basing it more on the hints on the show. :)
Cassandra Elise: damon/elena dancingcassandra_elise on April 26th, 2012 01:05 pm (UTC)
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Damon becoming human...and not just because I think it would do wonders for our ship! :)
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: MJ Excitingbadboy_fangirl on April 25th, 2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
I'm confused about your statement that a witch can't be a vampire, because I thought Rebekah said that in reference to the fact that her mother didn't turn because she wanted to keep her witchy powers. Bonnie's mom, upon becoming a vampire, lost her witchy powers, did she not? So this holds true to me; if you are a witch who becomes a vampire, you stop being a witch. Is that not what you're getting at?

As for vampires turning human (this is another dream plot of mine, you know! it would make me so happy!), the idea that the final scene between Rebekah and Esther would not just entail Beks being possessed, but that she ends up human and finally gets "to live" would be so poetic and lovely. I'm really on board with that idea. And if Damon/Stefan/Caroline were caught in the crossfire and somehow got changed as well, I think that would be wildly entertaining, and I'd much prefer that to any humans becoming vampires at this point.
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on April 25th, 2012 08:46 pm (UTC)
You have just made me think, could Bonnie be attempting to do that human spell for Abby? Abby has to come back into this somewhere.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: TVD: Damon 3x01badboy_fangirl on April 25th, 2012 08:54 pm (UTC)
Ooooh, that's a possibility, too. That might be interesting, as well, if Bonnie were responsible for it--for giving Damon his secret wish? Man, that would be AWESOME.
Bogwitchbogwitch on April 25th, 2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
Except, I expect, it would all go horribly wrong!
Arabian: Damon02arabian on April 25th, 2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
Hmm, interesting thought there! I like ....
Arabian: Damon & Elena13arabian on April 25th, 2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
I'm confused about your statement that a witch can't be a vampire, because I thought Rebekah said that in reference to the fact that her mother didn't turn because she wanted to keep her witchy powers.

Right. A witch can't be a vampire. Once they become a vampire, they lose their witchy powers, thus they are no longer a witch. So yeah, a witch can't be a vampire. Now I'm confused. I don't know why you were confused by my statement. My point was that Rebekah being a vampire, and Esther being a witch, I wonder if by her taking over Rebekah's body, that spell automatically did the reverse on Rebekah or Esther wouldn't be able to do anything witchy. Not that we know she will be able to, it's just a possibility that I think would be cool.

the idea that the final scene between Rebekah and Esther would not just entail Rebekah being possessed, but that she ends up human and finally gets "to live" would be so poetic and lovely.

That's what I'm thinking too.

And if Damon/Stefan/Caroline were caught in the crossfire and somehow got changed as well, I think that would be wildly entertaining, and I'd much prefer that to any humans becoming vampires at this point.

I'd honestly only want to see Damon change, because where's the story if Stefan and/or Caroline do? I'd find it highly unbelievable that they'd want to go back to being a vampire, whereas, I could see Damon realizing that he does prefer it.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: TVD: Bros. Salvatorebadboy_fangirl on April 25th, 2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
I wasn't clear on what you were saying, but I get it now--I thought you were saying Rebekesther is both vampire and witchy, but you were saying she's both human and witchy. Sorry, I just didn't comprehend all of your post. I must have read it too quickly. Now I understand.

As for Damon/Stefan/Caroline and/or becoming human again, I think I'd just be happy for Caroline to go back to normal, but hopefully with her new-found confidence. As for Stefan, I think the Damon thing is the more obvious. But what if Stefan discovered he felt that way too? And more importantly, what if Stefan became human, thus making him the "right" match for Elena, and she doesn't want him? She prefers his vampire brother, instead. There's a lot of stuff there, either way. I mean, I'd rather it be Damon too, but that's just because I want everything to be about Damon. I'm predictable. :-)
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on April 25th, 2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
I don't want Damon to be human! How would he get back to being a vampire? If he turned, he'd be weaker! No!
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assybadboy_fangirl on April 25th, 2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
It wouldn't be permanent, I'm sure. Eventually he'd become a vampire again, I'm sure. I think the reason it originally came up is because it happens to Damon in the books (though I've never read them, so I don't know the circumstances or if he becomes a vampire again), and then when they introduced the idea via Esther that she was turning her children human so she could kill them, the thought erupted about our vampires being changed as well.
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on April 25th, 2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
I have 'read' the books (well, listened on audio book anyway). The circumstances are not the same nor really applicable here as he has a completely different attitude to it.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assybadboy_fangirl on April 25th, 2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
From what I've heard, the only thing that's the same in the books is some of Damon's characterization and the names of the other characters, LOL. But I have no interest in the books, so it doesn't really matter to me.
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on April 25th, 2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
They have their own sickly, trashy charm (if they didn't I wouldn't have got past the first one), but that's pretty much right. And a good thing too.

I think Matt is pretty close, though his circumstances are different. Stefan is pretty much an ineffectual lump.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assybadboy_fangirl on April 26th, 2012 12:50 am (UTC)
There's something weird going on where I posted, and even though I was logged in, it acted like I wasn't. Sorry about that!
Florencia: Klaus & Carolineflorencia7 on April 26th, 2012 06:47 pm (UTC)
I really like the idea of Rebekah becoming human & I think you might be onto something! I read somewhere that Joseph Morgan, when asked about Klaus' fate in season 4 (& if he even survives until then lol) said that Klaus may survive until S4 but not necessarily in the way/form anyone expects. I'm wondering since then if it may mean that Klaus will become human by the end of the season?? That would be an awesome twist, especially if it'd mean that in S4 Klaus would become Team Mystic Falls against a new villain.