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05 April 2012 @ 03:15 pm
Be Rebekah! Pretty please to being Rebekah!! PLEEEEASE!!!!  
So, I have no idea but despite my surety in the last episode review I wrote that Rebekah wasn't long for this world, I've randomly decided that she MUST be the Mama!Original of all of our vampires. And if she is not, I will be massively disappointed. And, because, of course, they want to keep Klaus/Joseph Morgan around, I've figured that due to the whole Doppelganger blood being important to the Hybrid turn, that for some reasons Klaus' death would wind up killing the Doppelganger as well.

I just needed to come up with some conjecture that would enable them to keep Klaus around -- as I think they want to -- without making him the only possible Parental!Original. That way it can be Rebekah. Which I just really, really, really want ... and think would be AWESOME! For as I said in that review ... I think that Rebekah would be the funniest and most unpredictable one simply because, man, just imagine it? If they want to live they need to keep this petulant, spoiled brat with a propensity for threats and torture around who would have no reason to not kill Elena if Klaus is gone. Whoo, boy!

Really, it would just be AWESOME! (Plus, it would give us another female in the main cast since I do think Tyler is Dead!Hybrid!Walking, and they'll fill that tenth slot as the show appears to like the ten cast member number.)
Bogwitch: TVD - Caroline Elenabogwitch on April 5th, 2012 07:38 pm (UTC)
As I think Kol is just stakebait and I don't think Elijah is the type to go randomly turning lots of people unless it's for important ends, Rebekah would be my choice to keep too.
Arabian: Elena&Caroline03arabian on April 5th, 2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
And Daniel Gillies is in this new TV show that was picked up by NBC to air over the summer, so he may simply not wind up being available as an option.
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on April 5th, 2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
I did think about that, but I had no idea if it had been picked up or not.
Arabian: Elijah02arabian on April 5th, 2012 11:31 pm (UTC)
I remembered the title from watching the preview and randomly read that it'd been picked up for a summer run, so ... yeah.
Florencia: Easterflorencia7 on April 5th, 2012 08:47 pm (UTC)
It would really be interesting if it was Rebekah! Klaus is too obvious & Elijah would be too easy to accept & rejoice. As for Kol, sadly, I don't think he will survive until the next season *pessimism due to Finn & Sage's untimely deaths* Also, knowing our show's love for plot twists, I'm afraid that before we find out who the orginal parent is, it won't even matter anymore due to another awesome (not) working spell ;)
Arabian: Rebekah01arabian on April 5th, 2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
Klaus is obvious, yeah, and Elijah would offer really no lasting repercussions ... like at all.

I know that Rebekah likely wasn't around during the Rose era (due to what we saw in "Katerina" and "Klaus" -- but that was likely before the writers thought of Rebekah, so it can be explained away. But, there's also the possibility that Rose was turned by someone else who was turned by Rebekah at an earlier date.
eolivet on April 5th, 2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
Doesn't Claire Holt have another job (on "Pretty Little Liars?") No idea if that would impact her longterm plans.

I agree the show wants to keep Joseph Morgan. He's fit in seamlessly, and has had great chemistry with...a bunch of people! Stefan, Damon, Caroline -- even Elena! But it's TVD so nobody's safe...sigh. :(
Arabian: SC & Klaus01arabian on April 5th, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
She hasn't been on PLL since 2011, and has nothing on IMDB beyond TVD, so .....

I could do without Klaus, I like him a lot more now, but I could deal with him going. But, they've already put a lot of time and effort into Klaus/Caroline with more coming that I highly doubt they're just gonna kill him off this season, you know?
jamdouradojamdourado on April 5th, 2012 11:20 pm (UTC)
I'm wishing to be Rebekah too, I can totally see Rebekah bragging that they can't kill her.
Klaus and Elijah are the obvious choice but I think they will keep Klaus for other reasons. And Kol, I don't know, we barely had scenes with him, as much as I like him I don't think he will fit with the others characters, his only connection are with his siblings right now.
Arabian: Damon & Elena09arabian on April 5th, 2012 11:38 pm (UTC)
I can totally see Rebekah bragging that they can't kill her.

Oh, she would. She SO would!

Klaus and Elijah are the obvious choice but I think they will keep Klaus for other reasons.

Right, and as much as I love Elijah, there's really no story thrust with him, and Klaus -- well, they can come up with something. I randomly quickly came up with something, so, they can do it! LOL! Kol, yeah, they just haven't done much with him at all, but he is kinda a cipher which leaves him as an open possibility, hmmm...............
vanimy: TVDvanimy on April 6th, 2012 02:38 pm (UTC)
As long as Elijah's not killed, I'm fine with it being Rebekah.

The most important thing for me is, please, not Klaus!!! Because I really hope he gets killed off at some point. The only storyline that made me remotely like him was the one he had with Caroline but they seeemingly dropped that storyline so, yeah, die Klaus.
Arabian: Elena-Caroline & Bonnie02arabian on April 6th, 2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
Honestly, the whole Elijah has feelings for her -- which I still insist, and will continue to do so until told otherwise is about his feelings for Katherine who was much more Elena-like in 1492 -- soured having him around for me. I just -- gah, I just don't want to deal with another rival fanbase and Plec/Williamson deciding they have to appease THREE different shipbases. Ugh.

The only storyline that made me remotely like him was the one he had with Caroline but they seeemingly dropped that storyline

Huh? They haven't dropped it at all. We've had something about them every episode since 14, and this last one even had Damon telling her that she was Klaus-bait because he's obsessed with her. And barring what's on the show, we have several spoilers about the two of them coming up in the final four. All of the Caroline/Tyler stuff is wrapped up in Klaus.
wickedrumwickedrum on April 6th, 2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
thatd be nice. At present, most of the male characters have a thing for Elena. Itd be a breeze people falling in love with someone else for a change! Not to mention Ive always loved Rebekah.
Arabian: Elena06arabian on April 6th, 2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
I have NO idea where that notion comes from about Elena, seriously. It's just -- it kinda bugs me. There are seven males in the credited cast, and TONS and TONS of recurring. Of ALL of those characters --

Matt cares about Elena ... because they were boyfriend/girlfriend pre-series.
Stefan and Damon love Elena.

And ... that's it.

Yes, Elijah has an affection for her, but not enough to stop him from oh, kidnapping her and threatening to kill her. Plus, Elijah isn't even on the show right now, and while Gillies' talked it up, Julie Plec flat-out said, he respects her and likes her as a person; he doesn't have a thing for her. (And, for me personally, until told otherwise, it totally makes sense that the affection he has for her is based more on the fact that Elena is a lot like Katherine of 1492, and we know that Elijah had definite feelings for her.)

But even if you want to go with Elijah, considering ALL of the males on this cast, regular and recurring, that's only four. And I just don't think that Matt -- who was pre-series, thus didn't fall for her during the show, and while she's the one who got away, he's over her -- and Elijah, who again, just has a respect and affection for her, as flat-out stated by the executive producer (and frankly, that's what I saw on screen) count. So really, it's only two guys -- Damon and Stefan, and the show has been sold on the two brothers having a thing for her from the onset.

That leaves us with Alaric (father-figure), Jeremy (brother), Tyler (no interest), Klaus (no interest), Kol, Finn, Jamie, Luka, Jonas, Trevor, Brady, John (her dad), the Mayor, Mason, etc., etc., etc. No interest.

On the other hand, you've got Caroline -- Matt, Tyler and Klaus are three main characters we have watched onscreen develop feelings for her, that's one more than Elena. Plus, Kol thought she was hot and only didn't pursue her because Klaus told him to back off.

This myth that Elena has some magical vagina -- as I've read elsewhere -- that makes everyone fall in love with her has no basis in canon on the show. Honestly, outside of Caroline, the only other lead character that applies to would be Stefan (with a magical penis) as Elena, Katherine, Rebekah and Caroline have all been hot to trot for him at one time or another.

Edited at 2012-04-06 07:18 pm (UTC)
wickedrumwickedrum on April 6th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
lol. I didnt say I thought most men were in love with Elena, but some of the fandom certainly thinks so nevertheless and Alaric's included. Klaus as well, partly for the same reason as Elijah, as she looks like the woman they both loved. But once again, let me stress its not me who thinks so. Personally, I have trouble understanding why Elena's so desirable for the brothers to start with.
Arabian: Damon & Elena01arabian on April 6th, 2012 08:33 pm (UTC)
Just because fandom thinks so (and the Alaric thing has been thoroughly, completely, positively, absolutely shot down by Julie Plec -- and personally, I think it's gross because the show has never NOT portrayed him as anything but seeing Elena as a daughter-figure) doesn't make it so, and it certainly isn't a reason to ding the show as your comment implied. You say here that you don't think it, but your original comment read: "At present, most of the male characters have a thing for Elena." That certainly sounded like you were saying what you think and that's why I described it as such.

Personally, I have trouble understanding why Elena's so desirable for the brothers to start with.

Honestly, if you feel that way, I'm not sure why you read my journal, LOL! I stan for Elena so hard. Damon is the only character I like more than her, and right now, I'm on Elena's side. Why they find her desirable? Aside from her obvious looks -- which she shares with Katherine -- she has a huge heart, she cares, she forgives. She sees through their defenses to find the core of the better men they can be. She can laugh with them. She accepts them (or at least tries to -- Stefan never gave her much opportunity to truly accept who he was, but since he hasn't accepted himself ...). She comforts, supports, shows how important they are to ... even if it wasn't how Damon always wanted her to.

She's a beautiful outside package with an even more beautiful inner package. For Damon, she's feisty and spiky, and sparky and fun, and she makes him feel that he can be the man he resigned himself long ago to not being able to be. She's shown him that yes, he can be that guy, and he's finding -- through her support -- that he can live with being that guy. She's the first person -- in decades -- who saw through his tough/cool guy act to the vulnerable, aching boy inside and tried to comfort that boy. (In 1.03 ("Friday Night Bites") when she told him she was sorry, because she read between the lines and read Damon well enough to see that he was suffering because he'd lost Katherine too.)

As for Stefan, well, I've always thought that he loves HER on a superficial level, and that it's not about who she is, but rather who she isn't. Katherine. Elena is a nicer Katherine, the Katherine that he thought Katherine was. But then I'm not Stefan/Elena fan for a reason. Damon knew and loved Katherine exactly for who and what she was; so when he fell for Elena, it wasn't because she wasn't like Katherine, but because of who SHE was that he fell for.

On the whole, just I know that I vented in my last post, but overall, I ADORE The Vampire Diaries like no other show EVER, so I'm almost ALWAYS going to defend it ... especially from baseless fandom attacks that when put against canon show just exactly how baseless they are. I love the writing, I love almost all of the characters, with Tyler being the only one I'm meh on. I love the relationships, I love the story that these writers are telling, and I buy it, for the most part. I think this show is brilliant, exciting, rich, character-driven, heartbreaking, heartlifting, funny, sweet, sexy and just pretty much all around AWESOME.

Edited at 2012-04-06 08:36 pm (UTC)
wickedrumwickedrum on April 6th, 2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
I read your journal cause it sounds more positive than others, but even if it wasn't, Id possibly read it, kinda addicted you know? ;)
Elena has a loving heart and good intentions, but perhaps being "human" and young and all, she acts/speaks before she thinks sometimes and the consequences at times are irrevocable. Her good side was more evident in season1/2, I guess it was easier for her before her life was totally messed up. But however much I analyse her, emotions felt towards a character, good or bad, count more in case of a tvshow. And I just dont like her for some reason I cant quite explain.
I find Katherine and Rebekah much more intriguing, regardless of what moral deeds they are capable/incapable of.
(oh the issue of characters loving Elena, I forgot about that. I worded it the way I did cause it seems to be a generally accepted fact in the fandom by a majority)

Edited at 2012-04-06 10:38 pm (UTC)