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01 April 2012 @ 10:19 pm
Oh, I dunno ...  
I'm back to being pessimistic about The Vampire Diaries.

Apparently previous spoilers are wrong, and not only do S/E dance (which, yeah I did already know) in 3.20, it's apparently not a big D/E episode, but rather a BIG S/E episode. And I just -- I can't wrap my brain around Elena being with this guy after what he did on the bridge. I know, I know, what Damon did to Jeremy -- but that wasn't personal, that wasn't after she'd fallen in love with Damon, that wasn't after they'd been together. It was PERSONAL what Stefan did. And she and Stefan are going to dance, and have sweet, wonderful moments and get all close and intimate. Sure whatever happens with D/E in 3.19 is supposed to count, but when have Damon/Elena EVER gotten balance on this show? Uhm, never. So I'm not holding my breath here.

And now I'm back to thinking that Elena's going to either choose Stefan or choose neither one of them at the end of the season, kicking Damon (and the D/E shippers in the gut YET AGAIN!). I don't know how much more I can take of this ripping apart my shipper heart and I ADORE this show. There are so many D/E fans out there who don't even like the show anymore. No wonder the ratings are tanking. I'm sorry, but they were hitting the mid-to-higher two million viewers in the second half of season 02. Then the finale promised Damon/Elena. The first half of season two started to rise from those mid-to-higher two million to between three and mid-three million again. And other than 3.10 (where Damon/Elena kissed), there's been nothing but crumbs with them this second half and the ratings are falling back into the mid-to-higher two millions, with the last episode actually dipping below 2.5 (a 2.44). What is it going to take to wake them up to the fact that lack of Damon/Elena is HURTING the ratings.

There is no way you're not going to tell me there isn't some sort of connection here. Especially when Damon/Elena sweep every couple poll over Stefan/Elena, not to mention all of the buzz, talk, everywhere about them. The fandom is NOT evenly split, not by a long shot and because of that I can't honestly even understand the show being so determined to give both couples a fair shake more or less this season. And even if I could for that reason, it still wouldn't mesh because the first two seasons were NON-STOP STEFAN/ELENA! We're at the end of season 03 and Damon/Elena have YET to have even remotely as much good stuff as S/E.

And I'm whining, but I can't help it. IT'S NOT FAIR!

And damnit! One more rant. I'm fucking sick and tired of the lack of Damon-love on the show. Everyone treats him like crap. And he doesn't deserve it. Not now. Not when everyone else gets sunshine blown up their ass and forgiveness with a bouquet for any bad thing they do or it's flat-out ignored (paging Stefan!). But Damon?! He's still gets treated like crap for stuff he did in the first season and first episode of season 02, never mind EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY THING he's done good since then. What? Because he's snarky? Why shouldn't he be? Everyone treats him like crap.

GAH!
 
 
 
Arabian: Damon11arabian on April 3rd, 2012 12:29 am (UTC)
Plec tweeted that when all is said and done both teams will be happy/sad/hurt/touched/compassionate.

Yeah, she was just tweeting that to avoid giving out the outcome of the season. She might as well have not even responded to that tweet for as little information as she gave. :rolls eyes:

I don't know exactly where they are going, but I do think Delena won't be the endgame of this season. It will be but not yet. For me it would be ok if this didn't break Damon...I want him to have some happiness and since he loves Elena, it has to be Elena.

I dunno, everything has led down a path that leads to Elena picking Damon. And I just see it this way, Stefan/Elena got two full seasons, Damon/Elena need AT LEAST that much and I've read (fairly reliably) that the three leads are only signed for five seasons, so it's only "fair and balanced" -- as they keep going on and on about -- that D/E get two seasons. So they damn well better be heading straight to D/E by the end of this season or I WILL be pissed. We've earned it. We've waited long enough. She talks about S/E fans being rewarded for their patience (pfft!), D/Eers have been patient for a HELLUVA lot longer.

That being said, I think there's the need to have an intense Stelena episode because they need closure. The last convo they had looked like closure to me..at least on Stefan's part.

Well considering we ARE getting romantic S/E stuff in 3.20 clearly it wasn't.

Let's be positive ok?

I'm trying to be positive, and I do feel mostly better, I just, ugh! I'm tired of the whole "fair and balanced" thing they're talking about which never mattered much when Stefan and Elena were the couple, and Damon was pretty much out of the loop.

Btw didn't Plec say that D/E would have a scene in 3.20? She said that 3.20 would have Dalaric and at least one D/E scene

Nope, I'll I read is that S/E is a big episode, and that it's a BIG Damon/Alaric story.

julieplec ‏ :@mettaputri @hershlags they get some nice moments in a few weeks. your patience will be rewarded at the Decade Dance.
@julieplec What about our patience? We Delena fans have been patient for 3 years!?
@julieplec will damon and elena be getting any significant romantic moments in the decade dance as well?or just 319?


Re: These tweets, the "your patience will be rewarded at the Decade Dance." is for Stefan/Elena fans. Which kinda infuriated Damon/Elena fans, which this tweet: "What about our patience? We Delena fans have been patient for 3 years!?" was all about. That one she didn't respond to, but she made sure to let the S/E fans know that THEIR patience was being rewarded. And THAT is what is so frustrating. The "they get some nice moments in a few weeks" was to Damon/Elena fans, meaning nothing in 3.20, and the "your patience will be rewarded" was for Stefan/Elena fans. So once again, she gave solace to the S/E fans, while ignoring the D/E fans and their patience. Yes, she acknowledged that they would get stuff beyond 3.20, but the whole "patience" thing being ignored really steamed people because we've been SO MUCH MORE patient and have been waiting so much longer than S/E for the GOOD stuff.

Sigh. I'm choosing to believe she does this because they know the long game and they know that it's Damon/Elena -- sooner rather than later -- and that therefore they don't have to appease that fanbase because to them the writing is on the wall. What is happening on the show should suffice. The problem is that they don't seem to realize that just because THEY know what's happening, people have been burned too often to see that logical, narrative flow.

Ah well, we'll know in a few months what's going on. :)

Edited at 2012-04-03 12:31 am (UTC)
x5valex5vale on April 3rd, 2012 07:57 am (UTC)
Yeah, she was just tweeting that to avoid giving out the outcome of the season. She might as well have not even responded to that tweet for as little information as she gave. :rolls eyes:
I wasn't expecting anything different..LOL!


I dunno, everything has led down a path that leads to Elena picking Damon. And I just see it this way, Stefan/Elena got two full seasons, Damon/Elena need AT LEAST that much and I've read (fairly reliably) that the three leads are only signed for five seasons, so it's only "fair and balanced" -- as they keep going on and on about -- that D/E get two seasons.
Yep I do agree, that it would be fair... it could ene with Elena taking sometime on her own and then being with Damon in S4, but you know if D/E has to be the endgame (a nd we really don't know if it will be), I do think they can't be all happy together for two seasons...I am expecting some major angst.


Well considering we ARE getting romantic S/E stuff in 3.20 clearly it wasn't.
I guess we just have to wait..butu it still works for me that they can have romantic moments.

Let's be positive ok?

And THAT is what is so frustrating.
What if she replied that way because they are not going to be the endgame and she wants to calm them down? Which is basically what you wrote too (they know the long game and they know that it's Damon/Elena).

Yes, she acknowledged that they would get stuff beyond 3.20, but the whole "patience" thing being ignored really steamed people because we've been SO MUCH MORE patient and have been waiting so much longer than S/E for the GOOD stuff.
I totally get why D/E fans were annoyed by this answer. They are right.
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)03arabian on April 3rd, 2012 08:36 pm (UTC)
I wasn't expecting anything different..LOL!

True. I wasn’t either. It was just paired with her giving S/Eers such positive responses overall that made me roll my eyes at that.

Yep I do agree, that it would be fair... it could end with Elena taking sometime on her own and then being with Damon in S4

Agreed; but there needs to be something MAJOR to match up with everything that happened with the first 10 episodes, and to make up for the following 8 of 10 (giving “Our Town” a D/E thumbs up, and assuming that 3.19 *is* good for D/E and 3.20 is not).

but you know if D/E has to be the endgame (and we really don't know if it will be), I do think they can't be all happy together for two seasons...I am expecting some major angst.

Just because I mentioned S/E together for two seasons and that D/E should get at least as much didn’t mean that I think it would be the same. D/E would be very different. There would be a lot of angst, a lot of volatility, because they are both very passionate people with strong opinions who aren’t going to just bend to each other’s wills. Plus, you’re gonna have the fact that Damon will still be Damon, and not pretend to be a normal, human guy the way Stefan did. It’s an entirely different dynamic and would make their being together quite a tumultuous journey as opposed to the same-ole, same-ole pattern that Stefan/Elena fell into very quickly.

Let's be positive ok?

Okay.

I totally get why D/E fans were annoyed by this answer. They are right.

She just doesn’t think sometime, and I know it’s not intentional, but her and others really come across as if they don’t care at all about the D/E fanbase, and it’s irksome.
x5valex5vale on April 4th, 2012 07:47 am (UTC)
Plus, you’re gonna have the fact that Damon will still be Damon, and not pretend to be a normal, human guy the way Stefan did. It’s an entirely different dynamic and would make their being together quite a tumultuous journey as opposed to the same-ole, same-ole pattern that Stefan/Elena fell into very quickly.
I would so love to enjoy this ride!!!!