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01 April 2012 @ 10:19 pm
Oh, I dunno ...  
I'm back to being pessimistic about The Vampire Diaries.

Spoilerish, but nothing major-major.Collapse )
 
 
 
safetywords: d & e hugsafetywords on April 3rd, 2012 05:44 am (UTC)
And I just -- I can't wrap my brain around Elena being with this guy after what he did on the bridge.

This is a big concern of mine. You know I don't hate Stefan. I actually like him a lot of the time, but the bridge scene changed everything for me. It crossed a line that shouldn't have been crossed. Stefan knew better. He knew how much Elena was tormented by losing her parent's on that bridge. But he went and did it anyway. He made her relive a terrible tragedy that she didn't deserve to relive. What are the real consequences for Stefan? Why is no one really calling him out for his shit, too? Stefan's done wrong but it irks me how easily his wrongs tend to be glossed over and Damon's past wrongs are still being held over his head even though he's shown a lot of growth and is not the same person he was in season one. Sigh. That said, I don't really have much of an opinion about the 3x20 spoiler regarding it being a big SE episode, but a part of me is hoping that it's more of a closure, parting-of-ways scenario. Hopefully? I just think it's more than time to close the SE chapter and let DE start theirs. We've all been extremely patient, and I don't think it's selfish of us to want more.

That said, I hope you're feeling better. I know that sometimes I just need to rant and talk out my concerns, and once it's all out and in the open, I feel better. *hugs*




Edited at 2012-04-03 05:45 am (UTC)
Arabian: Damon & Elena12arabian on April 3rd, 2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Elena being with Stefan after the bridge -- This is a big concern of mine.

This is why I’m fine with a quick reconciliation, and providing moments and stuff of hope to S/Ers, but I just can’t see Elena with Stefan long-term (minus decades in the future if she’s turned, that could definitely be feasible).

You know I don't hate Stefan. I actually like him a lot of the time, but the bridge scene changed everything for me. It crossed a line that shouldn't have been crossed. Stefan knew better. He knew how much Elena was tormented by losing her parent's on that bridge. But he went and did it anyway. He made her relive a terrible tragedy that she didn't deserve to relive.

Right. After that scene, my sister – who has no fannish thoughts or affiliations about this show at all (she definitely doesn’t ship, and D/E do nothing for her) -- said to me that Stefan and Elena will never be together after that.

What are the real consequences for Stefan? Why is no one really calling him out for his shit, too?

I’m still really hoping that there is a reason they are revisiting this moment with an actual flashback because there will be something, some kind of fall-out.

Stefan's done wrong but it irks me how easily his wrongs tend to be glossed over and Damon's past wrongs are still being held over his head even though he's shown a lot of growth and is not the same person he was in season one. Sigh.

This, this, this, this! I think I could even be somewhat okay with the way Damon was treated if Stefan got SOME grief for what he did.

That said, I don't really have much of an opinion about the 3x20 spoiler regarding it being a big SE episode, but a part of me is hoping that it's more of a closure, parting-of-ways scenario. Hopefully? I just think it's more than time to close the SE chapter and let DE start theirs. We've all been extremely patient, and I don't think it's selfish of us to want more.

Ditto!

That said, I hope you're feeling better. I know that sometimes I just need to rant and talk out my concerns, and once it's all out and in the open, I feel better. *hugs*

I am, I definitely am. Responding to people and such has helped. I still am disappointed and narratively, logically, I don’t see how Elena can *be* with Stefan even tangentially romantically. However, to be fair, narratively, logically, it really doesn’t make sense considering the whole Jeremy-neck-snap, that she could with Damon either. So I’m trying to let it go, you know?
Florencia: Easterflorencia7 on April 3rd, 2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
Stay optimistic until May 10th! ♥ After that, we will have long 4 months for throwing virtual tantrums all over the internet haha (Although I honestly believe this season will end well for us.)

I'm afraid there is no way we could avoid having a SE-centric episode toward the end of this season, but as long as it's not 3x22 I'm going to bear it with dignity lol

& I wouldn't worry about the writers saying how they are trying to be fair to both pairings/fans of both pairings, etc. I choose to believe it's all marketing. I'm sure they are aware that more people care about DE than SE, but they can't very well announce that it's a DE story & Stefan is in it only to generate obstacles, angst, jealousy, etc. They want to keep the suspense (not to mention the overadvertised "triangle") brewing ;)
Arabian: Damon & Elena13arabian on April 3rd, 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
I am feeling more optimistic, I just need to shake off my venting blues because I just do want D/E so badly, and the idea that S/E are going to get more AGAIN before us was just disheartening. :( But I'm doing much better. Really. (But I don't want to get too optimistic either so I'm not wrecked with disappointment, you know.)

I'm afraid there is no way we could avoid having a SE-centric episode toward the end of this season, but as long as it's not 3x22 I'm going to bear it with dignity lol

I suppose, but I'm just peeved that it's at a dance when they already had a charged dance in 3.14, and we got about 5 seconds of barely anything (and I know cuz I just rewatched that scene to see if I remembered if wrong, nope, it was really lame).

I wouldn't worry about the writers saying how they are trying to be fair to both pairings/fans of both pairings, etc. I choose to believe it's all marketing.

I know it's marketing, but I think they are focusing too much on the S/E side of things because people get from the comments/tweets/press that it's Stefan/Elena, Stefan/Elena, Stefan/Elena and that's why many are giving up and only watching the clips and such on youtube, other sites. I know it's not just D/E-based, but there's no way it's not related.

Sigh. I know, I know. It will be fine. I know.