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23 March 2012 @ 04:50 pm
3.17 - 'Break On Through' (The Vampire Diaries)  
Due to The Hunger Games, I didn't get to bed until about 4:00 am, so I didn't watch The Vampire Diaries until I woke up at noon. It was the first thing I did upon waking though (of course!), and here be my thinky-thoughts. :)

With that pre-cut text said, this was not my favorite episode EVAR! It felt somewhat like a filler episode, which is pretty hilarious when you think of all that happened here is what you'd generally see in a regular episode for other action-packed shows, or much more than would happen in most TV shows period, but for TVD, it was a filler episode! But it was sweet, solid filler!

I adored that Damon wasn't the fool who has been played as he appeared to be prior to the last scene. And it made perfect sense that he let Rebekah and Sage think that they played him, letting them burn the bridge because with Rebekah skulking around them -- which Damon had, naturally, picked up on -- there is no way that they could have hid getting wood from the bridge without her knowing. So it was a good plan (take that, Rebekah!) getting the Originals and Sage to think that they were safe, while Damon had back-up white oak hidden away. I love when Damon Salvatore is smarter than everyone in the room.

Oh, and on Sage, I do like her. She has a dry, sardonic quality that is interesting. We don't know much about her, but the actress, Cassidy Freeman, is making me want to know about her. And I'm curious to see what the reaction will be when Finn sees Sage again. Will it be a replay of the one not loving the other as much as was thought, ala the Damon/Katherine parallel -- and can I say how much I loved that?! Damon talking about Finn not caring as much for Sage because, while he's over Katherine, he knows exactly what it feels like to yearn and wait for a love and find out it wasn't reciprocated. On the other hand, will we find out that Finn did love Sage as much but figured that after nine hundred years, she'd moved on and/or was dead? Or could it be that he was so consumed with the guilt of what his family were and what they created that he put the greater good above their love? See, this is why I like Finn so much even though we barely saw him. There's so much potential and of interest there. And Damon's continued assessment of Finn as "creepy" cracks me up; I really need to see these two interact. I really, really do.

Interaction I'm kinda over? Sexytiems with Damon and Rebekah (and Damon and Sage … and Damon and any female who is not Elena Gilbert). Don't get me wrong, the sexytiems scenes were good, but I don't necessarily enjoy watching them anymore (despite the hot of Ian Somerhalder). I accept why Damon is getting it on with other women (keeping his distance from Elena, moving on, using his masculine wiles to get information), but I'm just not all that rah!rah!rah! about watching the scenes play out. I can see the hot, but it's in a detached way because, yeah, I just don't want to see Damon with other women. I'm a couple-girl first and foremost and my dislike has nothing to do with the story or characters. I liked Andie, I love Rebekah, I like Sage; it's simply the fact that I don't want to see Damon make out with anyone but Elena at this point. I'm over it.

With that said, the scenes with Rebekah -- particularly at the reconstruction site, and when he kissed her -- really hammered home something I've mentioned a time or two. Damon has NOT tried to seduce Elena ... like at all. He has not played her, has not played the Lothario, tried to use her attraction for him (which he damn well is aware of) against her. He's played real with her 100%, except when he's gone over the top, knowing that she could (and would) easily rebuff the obvious moves. But the standing just too close behind Rebekah, the reaching across to pick up the glass, and brushing against her at the site, and then the honeyed words at the boarding house designed to pierce right to the heart of her desire ("I don't want her, I want you") was Damon in pure, seductive, don't-know-what-hit-you mode, and he's never laid that on Elena. He's never played her like that, had he ... that girl would have been in his bed a LOOOOONG time ago, but he wouldn't have her heart. And wanting all of her, and wanting her to honestly, truthfully, completely want all of him is his heart's desire.

Still, Damon seducing. Damon dancing. Damon naked in bed. Damon naked in the shower. Damon walking around/kneeling in only an towel. I can't not be a wee squeeful about that. Because, yeah, the Ian Somerhalder is HAWT! factor. Uh huh.

On the other hand, interaction that I can never get tired of? Damon and Stefan! Although, it did take a backseat in tonight's episode, I do enjoy seeing the strains of the continued moderation tutorial from Damon for his baby bro. I do hope (and I actually am hopeful) that Stefan's success with Meredith (yay for Paul! He finally got to be in a scene with his wife!) and crowing to Damon about being in control wasn't the end of the moderation storyline. Because, dude, it can't be that easy. Still, par for the course, it certainly fits Stefan's character that he'd react as such, and Elena's as well, believing it's that simple with her look of shiny hope his way after he resisted Meredith's bloody bloodiness all over the place. But more on Elena and her interaction with the Salvatore boys later. First, I'd like to touch upon Damon and Alaric and what is going on with their friendship.

It's clear that Damon cares about Ric, and is his friend. See his showing up at the jail last week, keeping tabs on what was going on (knowing he was released), then showing up at the hospital this week, and of course, the final scene with the two where Damon was awesome. What's just as clear is that we're still not getting much from Ric's side at all. I mentioned in my write-up for last week's episode that we had three mentions of Damon being Ric's friend, but nothing reciprocal, and Damon's statement that he has no one (which would include Ric) but Stefan.

In this episode, it was a bit more of the same. Damon being there for Ric as much as he's allowing himself (what with the whole pulling away because he's believes he's not wanted thing that Damon has going on), and Ric simply not giving a damn. Still, I remain hopeful this is deliberate because of the above continued reminder that Damon is Ric's friend, and two other things in this episode. First up, there is the big factor that the ring clearly brings on vampire-hating-feelings. His whole creepy speech to Meredith about her lack of remorse, and his even creepier letter to Jeremy (!) made that crystal clear. Therefore since the ring is all vampires suck!, it makes perfect sense that Ric would be ambivalent about his BFF being a vampire and thus not respond appropriately BFF-like to said vampire BFF. Secondly, when he had the opportunity to explain to Meredith why he was friends with Damon, he didn't. Maybe, with the ring's influence, he couldn't.

So, yeah, I'm hopeful, because with the ring creating this issue, it explains Ric's attitude towards Damon popping up in "Disturbing Behavior," the first time we saw him interact with him since putting the ring back on after months of not wearing it. It also explains Alaric's continued douchiness directed at Damon despite his looking out for Ric, watching his back, healing him, helping out with Elena, and generally being a pretty damn good friend. (Okay, fine, minus the neck-snap, but in vampire-speak, a neck-snap that doesn't result in death is simply a time-out when tempers are running high.) And that good friend-ness was beautifully on display in that final scene between the two.

Damon sat by his bed to make sure that Bonnie's spell worked, ensuring (a) that Ric would be okay, and (b) that if he wasn't, Elena wouldn't be in danger. He also did so with tact (Meredith!), putting a gentle spin on why Ric needed to head on over and recuperate at his loft, as opposed to in Elena's home where the vampire(s)-loving gal would be easy access to Ric's potential vampire-hating impulses. Like last week, I liked how we got some lovely shows, instead of tells. We saw Damon's tact, Damon's growth, Damon obviously still caring for both Elena and Ric, but keeping the distance that he believes they want from him. Ah, such wonderful continued proof of the evolution of my bb! ♥

While Elena's is still very, very much a work in progress. Oh, Elena. Elena, Elena, Elena. Clearly, girl is still doing her take-two-steps-back game. I didn't find her judgmental with Stefan in the previewed clip (seeing him with the blood bag) as others had, but I did find her so with Damon. And, yeah, it's par for the course. Elena has her clearly defined boxes for the two boys. Damon is "bad," and Stefan is "good." Of course, they certainly help her maintain these strict lines with the image of themselves they present to her. What's interesting is that for the first time, Stefan is clearly trying to be honest with her, while Damon is being his most dishonest with her in that he's laying the whole assy attitude without any softening really thick even though we know he does care ... about her, about Alaric, about Stefan.

Still this attitude of his -- deliberate on Damon's part to keep that distance (like with Alaric) that he believes she wants -- is only strengthening her less than kind attitude towards him. To me, it does make sense -- although it is frustrating -- that she continues to hold such anger towards Damon. In "1912," Elena said it herself, in so many words -- "no matter what I do" -– that she doesn't want to feel what she does for him. So the best way to counteract those feelings is to hold onto her anger. Which, again, Damon is aiding and abetting by being such an ass. On the other hand, I don't think that Elena is looking to jump back into a romantic relationship with Stefan (even Damon referred to their 'in love' phase in the past tense and as we know Damon is this show's truth-teller so now we know it's fact), but rather what I reflected on after "Dangerous Liaisons."

That night was "the first time that she saw her Stefan as the evening progressed, and so that girl that blindly loved him saw a chance to recapture the happy euphoria of pretense amidst the crazy that she shared with him, and she jumped on it." If Stefan can return to the Stefan that she knew, then maybe she can return to a happier (albeit somewhat delusional) place. Elena is alone, and now more than ever. She's adrift. She lost her parents, then Jenna (and John), then Stefan, but she had the girls, and she had Jeremy and Alaric in their new family unit and Damon was there for her 100%. Now, Jeremy (!!) is gone for his own good, Bonnie needs Caroline more than her at this particular time, and she and Bonnie hadn't made inroads yet. On top of that, Alaric's a sometime psycho killer, and Damon has pulled back his emotional support (her fault, yes, for her words and actions in "Dangerous Liaisons," but still). So it makes perfect sense that when she sees that side of Stefan, she's going to hold onto it with shiny hope (see, I said I'd come back to that!). However, I didn't see her attitude toward him at any point in this episode as romantic -- even those bright eyes after he helped Meredith and resisted the blood. Whereas her interaction with Damon -- although negative -- did speak of a more romantic connection in that she (and he) are both denying their true feelings (of love and yearning) for one another.

Oh, and getting back to that sometime serial killer Alaric, let's not forget that he was also planning on indoctrinating her baby brother (!!!) into his master plan. (Which, of course, she denied. Because she is Elena, queen of the Nile!) Dude, how freaking creepy was that letter?!! Oh, lordy. I doubt that Ric ever shared any of that with him since Jeremy (!!!!) wasn't virulently anti-vampire when he left, but that it was even out there (okay, locked away in a drawer) is just … really, really creepy! But at least it led us to that phone call with JEREMY (!!!!!). Such a lovely surprise to see his beautiful baby face again, smiling, normal, heading out to hang with his friends … and wearing the EVIL SERIAL-KILLER-MAKING-RING!!!

Ah, but seeing him was lovely, if bittersweet because it really underscored where Elena is. I just don't get people hating on her; I really don't. This girl has lost so much, over and over again, and she's alone. Damon is causing her pain right now because of his self-esteem issues and hurt feelings. Yes, yes, she said something "mean" to him in a highly stressful situation, but from her point of view, she doesn't realize that he is holding back because he thinks it's what she wants. She sees someone that she cares deeply for who she believed cared for her being a total jerk and not forgiving her for one harsh comment despite the fact that she has forgiven him time and time again for SO MUCH WORSE.

Alaric has moved out to recuperate. Stefan and their love is past. Bonnie has forgiven her, but the events that led them to that point where forgiveness was needed still weigh very heavily on her mind. Caroline is being the friend to Bonnie, and despite how close she and Elena are, of the three it's always been Bonnie and Elena, and Caroline and Bonnie that had the stronger connections. And how alone Elena is right now was poignantly made clear as she was cleaning up in the kitchen and then she turned around. The camera pulled back to show this 18-year old girl standing in a big, empty room, in a big, empty house all alone.

Not as alone, but about to face a kind of devastation that Elena (fortunately) has never felt is Bonnie. Oh, Bonnie. My poor Bonnie. Abby sucks. SO HARD. So, so, so, sooooooooooo hard! What a selfish, selfish person. But, we already knew that, right? I wrote about Abby when we first met her:

I do have to say that Bonnie was a lot nicer to her mom than could have been warranted under the circumstances: "Well, honey, see I abandoned you because I'm selfish. But hey, I guess I'll try and make up for it with a little magic now, mmkay?"
And, now that she doesn't have her magic, she's high-tailing it out of dodge again. So pathetic. I just have nothing more to say about her than that. She's not worth my time. Nor is she worth Bonnie's. Bonnie deserves so much more.

As much as Elena has lost, Bonnie has lost a crap-ton as well, and, unlike Elena, anyone that she has to turn to colludes with and/or is a vampire, so that comfort is at war with her nature as a witch. Still, she is such an awesome friend, and has grown so much since season 01 in her acceptance of the vampire-crazy around her. And I thought that Kat Graham did a wonderful job tonight, especially in her scenes about/with Elena. The way she paused and made herself say something nice-ish to her at the end of the phone call was so believably done. Then that final scene between her and Elena was lovely. The distance still there, before Elena tried to break it with her apology and unable to resist, Bonnie took her in her arms, forgiving Elena for what they both know isn't Elena's fault, but is all happening because of what Elena is. Just … really lovely scene, and well-played by both actresses.

Also well-played, every scene by Candice Accola, especially her scene with Abby where she used her history with her father to try and get that selfish witch to stick around. And like Bonnie, Caroline was such a great friend. There for Bonnie as a sounding board, for support, trying to help Abby, trying to make Jamie understand, trying to keep Abby from abandoning her child AGAIN! (Oh Bonnie!) And, still keeping in touch with Elena as best she could. Caroline is awesome -- whether as lead or supporting, Accola and Caroline always shine.

Oh, and speaking of her and Jamie, I was surprised to find that he and Caroline seemed to strike a natural connection that was wholly missing with Bonnie. Especially in the so-baldly (and, yes, badly) stated 'we're not related so let's make googly eyes at each other' scene. It didn't help that (a) Bonnie is in the midst of this whole thing with her witch-turned-vampire mom, and the situation with Elena, that I didn't buy her even remotely thinking of liking a boy! And (b) In their few scenes, Accola and Robert Ri'chard had chemistry, whereas I felt nothing in his scenes with Graham here or in their past interaction. It's okay, though, we saw Jeremy (!!!!!!), so maybe he's coming back soon and he'll make it up to Bonnie and I'll get my rainbows-sunshine-and-puppies couple again! They have chemistry!

Phew, onto the brief random stuffies …

- I think I figured out my Meredith-problem. They paired her with Alaric. I like Matt Davis, I do. And I like Alaric -- alas, truth be told, I can't say I love him anymore. The thing is that other than the scene where Isobel compelled Alaric at the end of "Isobel," I haven't felt anything with regards to his romantic prospects. I liked Jenna WAY MORE when she was not in her romantic storyline with Alaric. I like Meredith, but with Alaric, and their whole "romance," I'm bored. It's certainly not helped by the utter lack of chemistry between Davis and Torrey Devitto. Ah well.

- Aha! I was right about Rebekah's motivations last week. I wrote: "… poor Rebekah is still just looking for someone to bond with. Saint Stefan's a bust, Tyler is off breaking his bond to sire-Klaus, Elena stabbed her in the back, she's likely still miffed at Klaus, Kol took off, so Rebekah is giving Damon a try now." Again, ah well.

- Erm, show, could you not place the Damon/Elena scenes under the credits please? Especially when they have only one scene in the episode as happened this week *and* last week. *sigh*

- So, we did find out explanations for Ric and his arrests for fighting, but I figured there was a legitimate reason behind those for the most part. It was the whole two restraining orders that Isobel took out on him that I'm curious about. Come'on, show, spill!

- Once more for the road … JEREMY!!!!!!!

This was a fairly low-key episode, but it's one that the more you think about just gets lovelier. I really do enjoy the subtle, gentle writing of Rebecca Sonnenshine. Like her previous episodes ("Ghost World" and "Our Town"), she creates this graceful portrait that highlights where these people are emotionally. A filler one this episode may be, but it still is an engaging, solid effort that fits nicely within the season as a whole.
 
 
 
Bogwitch: TVD - Stefanbogwitch on March 23rd, 2012 09:37 pm (UTC)
>>He finally got to be in a scene with his wife!

Even if she was unconscious for all of it.
Arabian: Stefan03arabian on March 23rd, 2012 09:39 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but she got to brush her lips against his skin. It's something, damnit!! LOL!
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k_stjames: pic#110491197k_stjames on March 23rd, 2012 10:18 pm (UTC)
I agree completely very much a filler episode and more of Elena being mean and jugdy towards Damon. I was struck by the end when she stood in that big empty kitchen. Now that's she's technically all alone I wonder if she'll finally realize just how far away Damon has pulled. Because if not for all of Alaric's drama she wouldn't have had any interaction with him the last two episodes.
Arabian: Ian Somerhalder03arabian on March 23rd, 2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I do agree that it was filler, but in a GOOD way. And I wouldn't call how Elena treated Damon as mean and judgy. Again, from her point of view -- Damon is being a total asshole to her because of ONE comment she made to him despite the fact that she has forgiven him for so much worse, including snapping her brother's neck. She has no clue that he's pulling away FOR her, because he thinks it's what she wants. She just sees someones she deeply cares about pulling away from her because of one comment on her part. I am not upset with Elena at all and her attitude towards Damon is completely justified right now.

There's no doubt that she knows he's pulled away. She thinks -- because he hasn't lead her to believe anything else -- it's because she made that one harsh comment to him. So, I totally get her point of view.
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gidget_84gidget_84 on March 23rd, 2012 11:20 pm (UTC)
See I didn't think Damon knew the sign was white oak until the very end, and then just had a light-bulb go off in his head moment. But the way you explained it makes so much more sense lol

Or could it be that he was so consumed with the guilt of what his family were and what they created that he put the greater good above their love? See, this is why I like Finn so much even though we barely saw him. There's so much potential and of interest there. And Damon's continued assessment of Finn as "creepy" cracks me up; I really need to see these two interact. I really, really do.

AGREE TO ALL OF THIS^

That's what I was thinking, about why he may not love her anymore, or never did? I can see him getting turned and then being all lonely and "what do I do?", so he finds someone that he cares about and turns them.

I'm glad you do like Sage, quite a bit of people don't. It does feel like though, that Sage was brought in too late in the season, ya know? If she had been there a little bit earlier, maybe we could've had more flashbacks and understood her more.

And I gotta come back and comment on the other stuff later.
Arabian: Caroline02arabian on March 25th, 2012 08:10 pm (UTC)

See I didn't think Damon knew the sign was white oak until the very end, and then just had a light-bulb go off in his head moment. But the way you explained it makes so much more sense lol

Yeah, when Damon said that he sold his rage so well, that's how we knew that he'd been playing them all along. Go Damon, go Damon!

That's what I was thinking, about why he may not love her anymore, or never did? I can see him getting turned and then being all lonely and "what do I do?", so he finds someone that he cares about and turns them.

I dunno why, but I'm hoping one of these true love stories is gonna have a legit happy ending that we see without being wrought with the agony of watching the journey (ala Damon/Elena).

I'm glad you do like Sage, quite a bit of people don't. It does feel like though, that Sage was brought in too late in the season, ya know? If she had been there a little bit earlier, maybe we could've had more flashbacks and understood her more.

I'm fine with not knowing her that well; I think the actress is selling her well (and I'm thinking she would have made an AWESOME Rose). I think it just depends on how you take it. I mean, Abby, Rebekah and Meredith were brought on earlier and they have a lot of detractors. And then Kol who was only brought on a few episodes ago seems to be pretty loved. I think it's (a) Damon/Elena fangirls tired of yet ANOTHER sex interest for Damon (which I understand), (b) viewers tired of yet another new character and (c) stupid producers/actors trolling and saying that her character would explain how the 1864-Damon became our Damon -- which, of course, so did not happen. She taught him some stuff, yeah, but we certainly didn't see her to Damon as Lexi was to Stefan.

And I gotta come back and comment on the other stuff later.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assybadboy_fangirl on March 23rd, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
So, I'm pondering all this Damon/Alaric angst. And I'm concurring with your thought process--Ric got the ring back in 3x02 and by 3x04 his attitude about Damon seemed off. Remember how we were all confused by so much of what happened that episode, but now in retrospect, it could all have been as purposeful as anything they've done this season. Plus, Damon snapped Ric's neck so that would only confirm the psycho-Ric's vision of things since Damon caused him unwarranted trauma. Hmmm, so very interesting. What's really intriguing is the sense that not!psycho!Ric still projected that aloofness or disconnectedness from Damon and even after they *made up* he didn't really get over it--because he couldn't, because of the ring. (This is so LotR, I'm almost LOLOLOL. My precioussssss.) Anyway, *ahem* it all adds up, doesn't it?

I just wonder if we'll see a change, something reminiscent of the guy who didn't want Damon getting himself killed at Klaus's hands in 2x20, now that he's without the ring (though the extended preview has me worried about that, anyway).
logicisfailinglogicisfailing on March 24th, 2012 05:41 am (UTC)
"now that he's without the ring (though the extended preview has me worried about that, anyway)."
I just saw the extended preview and know what you're talking about - I think Damon's nuts! Seriously, would you rather die or turn into a psychotic killer and murder all your friends??
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La vida de llorona: TVDlaudanumdream on March 24th, 2012 12:38 am (UTC)
Awesome post is awesome.
I love when Damon Salvatore is smarter than everyone in the room.

- We can only hope that someone in the Scooby Gang doesn't ruin it for Damon AGAIN...


Oh, and speaking of her and Jamie, I was surprised to find that he and Caroline seemed to strike a natural connection that was wholly missing with Bonnie.

-YES YES and YES! I don't want to dislike Bonnie, but that's one thing that was really turning me off to her.

My poor Bonnie. Abby sucks. SO HARD. So, so, so, sooooooooooo hard! What a selfish, selfish person.

-I completely agree, and again, it wasn't Bonnie's fault that I didn't like her subplot in this episode... I just don't care for Abby at all. Never have and I don't really care if she comes or goes, tbh.

She sees someone that she cares deeply for who she believed cared for her being a total jerk and not forgiving her for one harsh comment despite the fact that she has forgiven him time and time again for SO MUCH WORSE.

I wish the two of them would just realize this already and move on from it. I really don't like all the snark. I'm not one for gushy romance either, but I just am getting annoyed with all the snark.
Arabian: DE & Stefan01arabian on March 25th, 2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
Awesome post is awesome.

Thank you, m'dear.

We can only hope that someone in the Scooby Gang doesn't ruin it for Damon AGAIN...

Considering there are five more episodes to go, I'm pretty sure they will, LOL!

YES YES and YES! I don't want to dislike Bonnie, but that's one thing that was really turning me off to her.

I'm confused; I don't get why Caroline and Jamie having a better connection/chemistry turns you off of Bonnie. Or did you just mean the stupid googly eyes bit?

it wasn't Bonnie's fault that I didn't like her subplot in this episode... I just don't care for Abby at all. Never have and I don't really care if she comes or goes, tbh.

Ah, see, I still cared for Bonnie (especially in relation to the Elena story, and how Caroline was so there for her).

I wish the two of them would just realize this already and move on from it. I really don't like all the snark. I'm not one for gushy romance either, but I just am getting annoyed with all the snark.

But it makes perfect sense. Look at it this way, had they not had this change in their relationship and just continued from episodes 1-11 of this season, it would have (a) not been narratively true because Stefan IS a part of the equation, and (b) had Elena gotten with Damon while Stefan was not the Stefan she was in love with, there would always be the 'Damon is second choice' hanging over their relationship. This way, they get to come together with this HUGE issue resolved (I believe). I am totally fine with where Damon and Elena are right now because narratively it's clearly the bridge to get them to a better, more honest, more satisfying place.
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logicisfailinglogicisfailing on March 24th, 2012 03:11 am (UTC)
I really did not like this episode. It felt very much like a filler/transition episode like you mentioned. Idk...I've never been a huge suspense fan, so many of the scenes (such as Alaric flipping out) were hard for me to watch. That said, I do agree with most of your points. I really liked last week's episode, so maybe I was just expecting another like that.

- I'm actually really liking Sage. I'm intrigued about the Sage/Finn relationship.
- Abby's a terrible mom. She can't stick around for two seconds?!
- I don't understand why Elena didn't tell Jeremy to take the pyscho ring off!! He's supposedly in a place away from supernatural danger, so why does he need to wear the ring anyway?

Don't really have a lot else to say....
Arabian: Alaric01arabian on March 25th, 2012 09:11 pm (UTC)
I really did not like this episode. It felt very much like a filler/transition episode like you mentioned.

I really think it was a strong, very nuanced, layered episode that when seen through the lens of the entire season thus far (and what's to come) has a lot to recommend it.

I really liked last week's episode, so maybe I was just expecting another like that.

I did like last week's better, but I appreciated a lot about this one too.

I'm actually really liking Sage. I'm intrigued about the Sage/Finn relationship.

Yay! Nice hearing others do like her and are intrigued by them too. :)

Abby's a terrible mom. She can't stick around for two seconds?!

It's been pointed out that being a vampire heightens who you were as a human, and so her instincts to run and be cowardly would have been heightened, so her running off makes PERFECT sense.

I don't understand why Elena didn't tell Jeremy to take the pyscho ring off!! He's supposedly in a place away from supernatural danger, so why does he need to wear the ring anyway?

It's the dying/coming back that sets it off, and how could she explain that he needs to take it off without explaining all of that stuff? Plus, she's going to choose the potential of Jeremy not being effected for a while if it means the ring could save his life.
gidget_84gidget_84 on March 24th, 2012 04:22 am (UTC)
Okay I'm back...

I liked all of the Damon and Stefan interaction too. Yep that's all I got to say about that lol

The ring influencing Alaric to hate on Damon was a really good reveal. Not that it was actually said or anything, but I think we can figure that's what they were going for. I can only hope it gets better.

I'm done with all of the Elena hate. Yes I get annoyed by things she says/does sometimes, but I'm really over it. I hated on her for that one episode, and now I find that I don't care. I just want her to end up with Damon and be more badass vampire hunter-girl with Alaric, and maybe Jeremy when he gets back. Now it's like, "Elena says something stupid" and me "oh Elena, you're so silly", instead of HATE lol

Caroline said all of the things that Bonnie should have said to Abby. That being said, Caroline will never not be awesome. Abby just plain sucks. Good riddance and all that.
I don't get the Bonnie/Jamie at all..just nothing there, no chemistry at all. It's like they made her have a love interest, just to have one. Why can't she be single?

JEREMY!!!! PLEASE COME BACK! that's all for that :)

I'm so with you on the Meredith/Alaric stuff. Just they don't have any chemistry at all, like Bonnie and Jamie. Again, it's like, you MUST have a love interest Alaric else...well..what else are you going to do? I think they kind of wrote him into a corner and don't know what to do with him, besides the ring stuff.

And lastly, Damon is flawless as always. Seriously, there has not been a single episode where I really hated him or even really disliked him. He snapped Jeremy's neck, and I was all "Damn Damon that was harsh...but oh man this is all so intense!" almost the same thing with the Alaric killing. I didn't get it at the time of course, so that probably helped with the indifference. But now we know it was the ring, and well, Damon being Damon.
DamonStan!
Arabian: Caroline01arabian on March 25th, 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
The ring influencing Alaric to hate on Damon was a really good reveal. Not that it was actually said or anything, but I think we can figure that's what they were going for. I can only hope it gets better.

Yup, so well-laid out. I ♥ this show so hard.

I'm done with all of the Elena hate. Yes I get annoyed by things she says/does sometimes, but I'm really over it.

I get as annoyed with her as I do with Damon in the equation. He's an ass to her, she's a bitch to him, it evens out because there is so much they are not dealing with, his feelings, her feelings, their miscommunication and the fact that he thinks she doesn't truly care for him, and now she thinks that he doesn't care for her all that much anymore.

I just want her to end up with Damon and be more badass vampire hunter-girl with Alaric, and maybe Jeremy when he gets back.

I'm not sure were going to get there, LOL!, but I'm positive we're heading to Damon/Elena, no question.

Now it's like, "Elena says something stupid" and me "oh Elena, you're so silly", instead of HATE lol

See, I don't think she's said anything stupid. Everything that she's said now is based solely on how Damon is acting, and how she feels that he's turned away from her and she's hurting and frustrated and doesn't know how to deal with it. It's all a clusterfuck of the other wrong about where they other stands emotionally about the other.

Caroline said all of the things that Bonnie should have said to Abby. That being said, Caroline will never not be awesome.

For the most part, I'd have to agree with this. :)

Abby just plain sucks. Good riddance and all that.

Yes. It's been pointed out that being a vampire heightens who you were as a human, and so her instincts to run and be cowardly would have been heightened, so her running off makes PERFECT sense. And I gotta say I love the fact that they created this character who, did, yeah, just suck that much but not in a big, villain-y way, but just fail as a person, you know?

I don't get the Bonnie/Jamie at all..just nothing there, no chemistry at all. It's like they made her have a love interest, just to have one. Why can't she be single?

I know, right?! My one issue with the episode is the Jamie/Bonnie moment. Ugh.

JEREMY!!!! PLEASE COME BACK! that's all for that :)

YES!!!!!!!!!

I think they kind of wrote him into a corner and don't know what to do with him, besides the ring stuff.

I don't think that, I think this ring stuff WAS what they decided to do with him, and it's been a season-long arc, and one that is clearly not over.

And lastly, Damon is flawless as always.

Yes.

Seriously, there has not been a single episode where I really hated him or even really disliked him.

Eh, I thought he was whiny, petulant, cruel ass in "Klaus." But I still love him.
I am of the stars, I am called foreversteph2311 on March 24th, 2012 12:28 pm (UTC)
I completely agree with ou on your comments for this episode.

Jeremy needs to come back pronto. I miss him so much.

Yay for someone else who likes Finn. I think he changes the entire Original dynamic, and his relationship with Sage is very intriguing- cannot wait for next week. I am slightly worried that she will do something to stab him in the back (or literally heart) though if she doesn't get exactly what she wants from him. I don't trust her.

I liked this episode- a filler definately, but a well written one that has hinted at enough of the upcoming plot to get me very excited.
Arabian: Jeremy01arabian on March 25th, 2012 10:13 pm (UTC)
Jeremy needs to come back pronto. I miss him so much.

I cannot disagree with this. At all.

Yay for someone else who likes Finn. I think he changes the entire Original dynamic, and his relationship with Sage is very intriguing- cannot wait for next week.

I'm glad someone else likes him too. I can't wait to see more of him (and him and Sage) next week.

I am slightly worried that she will do something to stab him in the back (or literally heart) though if she doesn't get exactly what she wants from him. I don't trust her.

I am choosing to be hopeful that they do have a true love. And if he isn't all about her too, I'm hoping that her response will be to walk away because she does truly love him. I know, I know, but I'm a romantic at heart.

I liked this episode- a filler definately, but a well written one that has hinted at enough of the upcoming plot to get me very excited.

Exactly. :)
illuminanted: Damon Salvatore ♥illuminanted on March 24th, 2012 02:48 pm (UTC)
It DID feel like a filler episode but, like you said, a good one.

I love when Damon Salvatore is smarter than everyone in the room.
I LOVE that, too! Although, I hate it that no one EVER gives him credit for that... And I was so glad to see him all bright and shiny in the end of the episode because that's when I realized that he was playing them all along... my smart, bb. ♥

I also like Sage (and I totally blame the actress for it because she makes her seem very intriguing and mischievous) and I am interested in how the Sage/Finn love story will play out. (just when I thought Finn was simply the "creepy, suicidal dude", the writers made him interesting. :D)

I agree about Damon not trying to seduce Elena, I mean, not really... he has used his charms on her (ex. the eye-thing) but he never played her along.

I will NEVER get tired of the Salvatore brothers' bonding time. :) Yes, it was toned down a little this episode, and yet, it was still a continuation of the moderation storyline which I hope will be rolling for quite some time.

I hope you're right about the ring preventing Ric from being Damon's BFF. It makes a lot of sense and would be brilliantly planned and executed by the writers/actors.

We saw Damon's tact, Damon's growth, Damon obviously still caring for both Elena and Ric, but keeping the distance that he believes they want from him
I loved that about the episode. Damon, was yet again, perfection.

I'm SO glad we got to see Jeremy and I agree that Bonnie/Jeremy is a couple I would LIKE to see again! (I just saw way more chemistry between Caroline (who was AMAZING this episode as well!) and Jamie compared to Bonnie/Jamie where I didn't see anything at all... not to mention that it just seems that they are giving her a love interest just for the sake of her having one... now if Jeremy comes back - that's a different story :D)

And can I just say that I REALLY do NOT like Abby - WTH, woman, couldn't you be there for you daughter for once and put someone else that cares for you before yourself?!I just... can't with her...

I agree about Ric/Meredith not having any kind of a chemistry connection (though it could be the awkward situation they're in... I mean, making out with your friend's wife and having to make googly eyes at her - not the best spark foundation. :D)

But, YAY, for Paul being on set with his wife! :)
Arabian: Damon07arabian on March 25th, 2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
Although, I hate it that no one EVER gives him credit for that...

I'm still hopeful we're getting there.

And I was so glad to see him all bright and shiny in the end of the episode because that's when I realized that he was playing them all along... my smart, bb. ♥

SO AWESOME! :D

I also like Sage (and I totally blame the actress for it because she makes her seem very intriguing and mischievous) and I am interested in how the Sage/Finn love story will play out. (just when I thought Finn was simply the "creepy, suicidal dude", the writers made him interesting. :D)

Aww, see I liked Finn from his first appearance. Hmm, going back to when he showed up, I wrote this: "I also really liked Finn. That he knew Esther's plan and was willing to go along with it was really awesome, I thought. There was a gentle, quiet strength about the actor that I genuinely liked." Yeah, I liked him from the get-go, but Damon's continued commentary on how "creepy" he is cracks me up.

I agree about Damon not trying to seduce Elena, I mean, not really... he has used his charms on her (ex. the eye-thing) but he never played her along.

Right, and I love that. Whenever people accuse Damon of trying to seduce his brother's girl, I'm all, like, no, he really hasn't. And this proved it more than anything, I thought. (Not that it would dissuade the haters of their viewpoint.)

I hope you're right about the ring preventing Ric from being Damon's BFF. It makes a lot of sense and would be brilliantly planned and executed by the writers/actors.

I really think it was. Think about it: The sun and Moon curse -- introduced in episode 03 -- confusion wasn't explained until episode 19! These writers CLEARLY map out the whole season, with bits and pieces planning on being unraveled as the season progresses.

I'm SO glad we got to see Jeremy and I agree that Bonnie/Jeremy is a couple I would LIKE to see again! (I just saw way more chemistry between Caroline (who was AMAZING this episode as well!) and Jamie compared to Bonnie/Jamie where I didn't see anything at all... not to mention that it just seems that they are giving her a love interest just for the sake of her having one... now if Jeremy comes back - that's a different story :D)

Yeah, just, yeah to all of this.

And can I just say that I REALLY do NOT like Abby - WTH, woman, couldn't you be there for you daughter for once and put someone else that cares for you before yourself?!I just... can't with her...

It's been pointed out that being a vampire heightens who you were as a human, and so her instincts to run and be cowardly would have been heightened, so her running off makes PERFECT sense. And I gotta say I love the fact that they created this character who, did, yeah, just suck that much but not in a big, villain-y way, but just fail as a person, you know?

I mean, making out with your friend's wife and having to make googly eyes at her - not the best spark foundation. :D)

Eh, that doesn't work for me. Ian and Nina have been together for about two years now and aside from Paul -- who Nina was making out with before she and Ian got involved -- Taylor Kinney, Lauren Cohan, Dawn Olivieri, Claire Holt and now Cassidy Freeman have all come in and made out with these two actors whose significant other is in the cast, and there has been varying levels of chemistry there. It's just a matter of having the base of chemistry to work with or not, I think.

But, YAY, for Paul being on set with his wife! :)

LOL! Yeah, yay for Paul! Hee.
Florenciaflorencia7 on March 24th, 2012 07:26 pm (UTC)
I agree about Meredith/Alaric. They just rushed both of them into the romance-thing, which was especially harmful to Meredith, since her character became a love interest the moment she entered the show. She wasn't given any time to be, as a character, on her own, so to speak.

I feel SO bad for Bonnie. However, in Abby's defence, I have to point out that now that she's a vampire her personality traits are heightened, so I wasn't surprised that of all the things she could have done she chose running away more. She simply did what she had done before. Something she wouldn't have probably done had she remained a witch.

I'm very curious to see where Elena will be by the end of this season. The shot of her alone in the kitchen reminded me of a similar shot in 3x01 - when Alaric decided to move out & left the house we also got a shot of Elena standing all alone in her empty house.

Your insight always adds additional layers of meaning to every episode. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ♥
Arabian: Ian & Nina(PS)07arabian on March 25th, 2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
I agree about Meredith/Alaric. They just rushed both of them into the romance-thing, which was especially harmful to Meredith, since her character became a love interest the moment she entered the show. She wasn't given any time to be, as a character, on her own, so to speak.

I don't know so much that it was the love interest thing, as that Meredith was such a cipher, and the lack of chemistry there between Matt Davis and Torrey Devitto. I don't know, whatever the reason, there's just nothing there or root-able for Ric and Meredith.

I feel SO bad for Bonnie. However, in Abby's defence, I have to point out that now that she's a vampire her personality traits are heightened, so I wasn't surprised that of all the things she could have done she chose running away more. She simply did what she had done before. Something she wouldn't have probably done had she remained a witch.

Very, very good point. butterfly pointed out as such to me on the phone as well. And I gotta say I love the fact that they created this character who, did, yeah, just suck that much but not in a big, villain-y way, but just fail as a person, you know?

I'm very curious to see where Elena will be by the end of this season. The shot of her alone in the kitchen reminded me of a similar shot in 3x01 - when Alaric decided to move out & left the house we also got a shot of Elena standing all alone in her empty house.

Ooh, good call. Something may happen that leaves her alone again, or maybe, we'll get a shot of her alone looking around and Damon, or Jeremy, or Bonnie, or Caroline, or all of them or a few of them will enter and she'll smile big! (Look at me, being an optimist.)

Your insight always adds additional layers of meaning to every episode. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ♥

Thanks, I have fun with it, and I'm having more fun now with my new found attitude of looking at the season as a whole, and not just at individual episodes, you know?

Edited at 2012-03-25 10:43 pm (UTC)
Heather-Ann: Damon Love at first sightlinsell_farm on March 25th, 2012 12:20 am (UTC)
First, I am so grateful that you are on my F-List, bb <3

It seems that I am perpetually stuck in my 'emotional reaction' phase when it comes to this show (that I just ADORE). I seriously wish I could adopt the healthy perspective that you have managed to. I understand that the show does full-season arcs, and that they are brilliant at getting the characters exactly where they need to be to drive the story, and yet somehow I still have my stupid, judgemental, knee-jerk reactions (generally condemning Elena). ARG :( I piss myself off sometimes. I need to step back a little, be a little detached and thereby enjoy the journey that all these characters are going on.

It's gotten to the point that I've started thinking twice about posting my thoughts, because really, who would want to read my emotionally unbalanced rantings? Plus, I inevitably feel guilty afterwards for posting such harsh opinions.

Anyhow, I just wanted to say that your posts are my voice of reason. They help me gain some perspective. I hope that soon I'll be able to get to that point more quickly after watching an episode.

Oh, everything you said in your post makes complete sense to me (as usual).
Arabian: Damon05arabian on March 25th, 2012 11:33 pm (UTC)

First, I am so grateful that you are on my F-List, bb <3

Aww, thank you. {Hugs}

I understand that the show does full-season arcs, and that they are brilliant at getting the characters exactly where they need to be to drive the story, and yet somehow I still have my stupid, judgemental, knee-jerk reactions (generally condemning Elena). ARG :( I piss myself off sometimes. I need to step back a little, be a little detached and thereby enjoy the journey that all these characters are going on.

I don't know how I got there, but I'm so glad that I did. Part of it is that I think this show isn't given the credit it deserves in that people view it in terms of pulp popularity and not in critical thinking ways ala Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, etc. And I think that the writing is reaching those levels -- and has been -- where it's designed to make you pay attention and think, see and appreciate the layers and the depth involved in the crafting of the show. It's not shallow, pretty-people viewing. It might actually be a first of its kind in that it truly merges the pulp-y popular, action-based, snarky type of show with the layered, nuanced critical thinking type of show.

It's gotten to the point that I've started thinking twice about posting my thoughts, because really, who would want to read my emotionally unbalanced rantings? Plus, I inevitably feel guilty afterwards for posting such harsh opinions.

Don't stop posting, just sit on it and think about the overall arc of the season. What I do is jot my thoughts down and then as I work to weave them together in a coherent post, I find myself seeing those layers and connections better.

Anyhow, I just wanted to say that your posts are my voice of reason. They help me gain some perspective. I hope that soon I'll be able to get to that point more quickly after watching an episode.

Thank you, and I hope you will too. It makes it more enjoyable watching. Just enjoy the ride.
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Olga: TVD | A | 2x14 | Judge.dreamingahead on March 25th, 2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
So it was a good plan (take that, Rebekah!) getting the Originals and Sage to think that they were safe, while Damon had back-up white oak hidden away.

So awesome! I wonder at what point exactly he stashed it away. :D


Very intrigued by the Katherine/Finn parallel as well... while Damon made a case about Sage's history with Finn ringing some bells based on his own experience, it could still go either way. Hopefully, we'll find out more about Finn soon!


Interaction I'm kinda over? Sexytiems with Damon and Rebekah (and Damon and Sage … and Damon and any female who is not Elena Gilbert). Don't get me wrong, the sexytiems scenes were good, but I don't necessarily enjoy watching them anymore (despite the hot of Ian Somerhalder).

THIS. I absolutely hated D/R hooking up despite how "hot" a lot of people on my flist found it, and a repeat of it was just painful, despite the fact that it was for the greater good. Too many D/E feelings.


Damon in pure, seductive, don't-know-what-hit-you mode, and he's never laid that on Elena.

Very nice observation there. <3 Just when I thought I couldn't love my ship more!

Stefan's success with Meredith (yay for Paul! He finally got to be in a scene with his wife!) and crowing to Damon about being in control wasn't the end of the moderation storyline.

lol @ Paul finally getting to be in a scene with his wife because it's TRUE. He also got to save her on screen!

I do think it's just the beginning as far as learning moderation goes; a hint that it's not a lost cause. I am eyeing the fact that Stefan told Elena he needed her help to do it, though, I really hope it won't come down to her feeling like she has to get back together with him just so she could help him through this... when she realises it's the best way for him, ofc.

First up, there is the big factor that the ring clearly brings on vampire-hating-feelings.

Wow, I never thought of the ring's impact on D/A, but you might be true! Damon snapping Alaric's neck for him to come back to life VIA THE RING was what actually brought on Alaric's stronger than ever anti-vampire feelings in the first place.

Also, that letter to Jeremy made my skin crawl so much. It's like the ring wearer feels some sort of a connection, a legacy to be passed on, when it comes to another ring wearer. EEK.


Arabian: Damon08arabian on March 25th, 2012 11:59 pm (UTC)

I wonder at what point exactly he stashed it away. :D

In between dirty dancing, manwhoring, and sexy showering?

Very intrigued by the Katherine/Finn parallel as well... while Damon made a case about Sage's history with Finn ringing some bells based on his own experience, it could still go either way. Hopefully, we'll find out more about Finn soon!

I'm a hopeless romantic, I hope this is the happy flip coin of Damon's experience.

I absolutely hated D/R hooking up despite how "hot" a lot of people on my flist found it, and a repeat of it was just painful, despite the fact that it was for the greater good. Too many D/E feelings.

I didn't hate it, I just am tired of seeing Damon make sexytiems with someone other than Elena. Although, it does help when he's SO clearly was playing her, and was just doing an erotic info-swap with Sage, LOL! (Oh, Damon, such a manwhore.)

Very nice observation there.

I'd always thought that about Damon not really working her because come'on, Ian Fucking Somerhalder?! And Damon's patented manwhore moves? No way that Elena's be able to resist that.

<3 Just when I thought I couldn't love my ship more!

I know. In an odd way, I do feel it adds this lovely purity to Damon's love for her which calls back to the pure, untarnished love he held for Katherine -- who is the only other woman he loved.

lol @ Paul finally getting to be in a scene with his wife because it's TRUE. He also got to save her on screen!

And see the screencap above in the comments, Paul was even tenderly holding her head. Awww.

I do think it's just the beginning as far as learning moderation goes; a hint that it's not a lost cause.

I like that point of view.

I am eyeing the fact that Stefan told Elena he needed her help to do it, though, I really hope it won't come down to her feeling like she has to get back together with him just so she could help him through this... when she realises it's the best way for him, ofc.

I don't know, Paul's comment that implies that Stefan would step aside if he realized that Elena loved Damon too (I'm pretty sure I read something along those lines) make me hope something like that won't happen. I'm hoping it's going to be a case of Elena becoming that platonic soulmate that Lexi sorta was but not really in the best way. And once Elena is *with* Damon, she'll be able to see his point of view about this being the way to help Stefan, and can help following his guidelines.

Wow, I never thought of the ring's impact on D/A, but you might be true! Damon snapping Alaric's neck for him to come back to life VIA THE RING was what actually brought on Alaric's stronger than ever anti-vampire feelings in the first place.

Yup, yup, yup. Damn, I ♥ this show sooooooooooooooo much.

Also, that letter to Jeremy made my skin crawl so much. It's like the ring wearer feels some sort of a connection, a legacy to be passed on, when it comes to another ring wearer. EEK.

I know, right?! CREE-PAY!

Edited at 2012-03-26 12:02 am (UTC)
dante_kentdante_kent on March 26th, 2012 02:36 am (UTC)
LOL, I'm so with you about this being a filler episode. Even though so much technically happened, it just didn't feel important. This show has spoiled us all so much.

I love when Damon Salvatore is smarter than everyone in the room.

RIGHT? I have such an intelligence crush on this boy. But I loved him outsmarting everyone. I totally didn't see it coming, and it was very, very well-done. Just confirms what we all knew - if you need a good plan in Mystic Falls, call Damon. And leave EVERYONE ELSE out of it.

I loved the Finn/Sage Katherine/Damon parallels. It really does explain Damon and Sage's affinity for each other. But I would wager that Finn probably is as apathetic as Katherine was. I think the show ultimately believes that no one should spend their life waiting for someone else, no matter how true or strong the love is/was. Even Elena knew that, despite her Epic Love of Epicness with Stefan. So I can't imagine Sage being rewarded for her faith. But maybe I'm just a cynic.

I have to say, I am totally in love with Damon/Rebekah. For so, so many reasons. But I think part of why it doesn't bother me is that I don't see it as anything of a threat to D/E. There is no danger of Damon and Rebekah falling in love. But something about the two of them works for me, insofar as they are similar people with similar problems. And ultimately I see their involvement as furthering the D/E cause in a way that none of his other relationships really have. (I mean, we got zero jealously from Elena about either Rose or Andie, so already we're ahead on the Rebekah front.)

I do hope (and I actually am hopeful) that Stefan's success with Meredith (yay for Paul! He finally got to be in a scene with his wife!) and crowing to Damon about being in control wasn't the end of the moderation storyline. Because, dude, it can't be that easy.

I really, really hope this isn't the case. Please, show, don't let this be the case. It CAN'T be that easy. Just. Please.

she doesn't want to feel what she does for him. So the best way to counteract those feelings is to hold onto her anger. Which, again, Damon is aiding and abetting by being such an ass.

Very, very true. I go back and forth on how I feel about Elena's treatment of Damon - half the time I don't mind it at all, and the other half of the time it makes me crazy. But it's all totally in character. Elena and Damon both wish they didn't feel the way they do, and it's easier for both of them to hate each other. It's never really going to happen, but Damon is being as awful as he can to make it easier for her, and Elena's taking the opportunity he's giving her, because that's the only way they know how to coexist without going over the edge of their feelings for each other. But what I'm hoping for is that something comes along to break them out of this pattern...something like Rebekah torturing Damon...

The camera pulled back to show this 18-year old girl standing in a big, empty room, in a big, empty house all alone.

This was such an amazing shot. WELL DONE, SHOW.

Kat Graham was so wonderful in this episode. I loved Bonnie so much - she was at her very best here.

The way she paused and made herself say something nice-ish to her at the end of the phone call was so believably done.

This was gorgeous. Kat is such a great actress, it's fantastic when they give her real things to do.

The final scene with Elena and Bonnie was beautiful. So much love.

I definitely felt the Jamie/Caroline connection too! It's a shame that they're trying to force him into being Bonnie's love interest. Though Caroline certainly does have enough love interests, but I'm just not feeling any chemistry between Bonnie and Jamie. I guess we'll see.

It was the whole two restraining orders that Isobel took out on him that I'm curious about.

Me too. That's the only real part of Alaric's past that I need to hear about.

YAY JEREMY! Good to see you, boy.
Arabian: Caroline02arabian on March 26th, 2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
LOL, I'm so with you about this being a filler episode. Even though so much technically happened, it just didn't feel important.

Well, I did think it was important in terms of character-stuff. It offered a well-laid out explanation for Ric's treatment of Damon this season since "Disturbing Behavior," it showed that Stefan is getting better, and we saw a reconcilliation between Bonnie and Caroline.

I loved the Finn/Sage Katherine/Damon parallels. It really does explain Damon and Sage's affinity for each other.

Yup, whether Damon knew or not, Sage did which would explain why she zeroed in on him.

But I would wager that Finn probably is as apathetic as Katherine was.

I'm hopeful that it will turn out to be about love.

I think the show ultimately believes that no one should spend their life waiting for someone else, no matter how true or strong the love is/was.

I don't think it's about waiting or not waiting for someone -- because there's waiting for someone and still living your life (as Damon and, it appears, Sage does), and just letting life pass you by, as Elena was doing during the summer and early Fall.

So I can't imagine Sage being rewarded for her faith. But maybe I'm just a cynic.

I am choosing to be hopeful that they do have a true love. And *if* he isn't all about her too, I'm hoping that her response will be to walk away because she does truly love him. I know, I know, but I'm a romantic at heart.

Elena and Damon both wish they didn't feel the way they do, and it's easier for both of them to hate each other. It's never really going to happen, but Damon is being as awful as he can to make it easier for her, and Elena's taking the opportunity he's giving her, because that's the only way they know how to coexist without going over the edge of their feelings for each other. But what I'm hoping for is that something comes along to break them out of this pattern...something like Rebekah torturing Damon...

Right. I do believe all of this is playing with what we know about their characters, and setting up for a big THING with them. I can't wait.

Kat Graham was so wonderful in this episode. I loved Bonnie so much - she was at her very best here.

Other than the annoying googly-eyes at Jamie moment, I wholeheartedly agree.

I definitely felt the Jamie/Caroline connection too! It's a shame that they're trying to force him into being Bonnie's love interest. Though Caroline certainly does have enough love interests, but I'm just not feeling any chemistry between Bonnie and Jamie. I guess we'll see.

I'd much prefer Jamie over Tyler -- but that's just me and my meh-ness about Tyler and complete lack of interest in Caroline/Tyler. It truly is just NOT there with Jamie and Bonnie.
x5valex5vale on March 26th, 2012 08:48 am (UTC)
I am late and I don't have much time, but I totally agree with this review.

Damon has been awesome, he's set things in motion, he has been there for the people he loves, he was smart, he learned fast from Sage and basically fooled her and Rebekah too. He wants Stefan and Elena to be together again, because he wants them happy and he thinks this is how they will be happy. He's wrong, of course, but it's Damon who thinks he doesn't deserve to have happiness in his life, so what does he? He tries to fix things. He helps Stefan and lets Elena be mad at him (he so insisted to say that it was him to force Stefan to drink that girl's blood)...how much do I love him?

Elena on the other hand is doing everything you explained so well and she is avoiding to question her feelings. Quoting myself from my post:
The point is that since Dangerous Liaisons every time Elena talks to Damon, she says one thing and she means something about the two of them. In the last episode when she told him not to push people away, she was talking about herself, because Damon actually is not pushing anyone away...now she should just admit that if she had listened to him in 3.14, nothing would have happened. Abby would be still human, Damon and Elena would be still close.
She wanted to play the hero and she messed up with things. How naive was of her to believe that Elijah wouldn't have found out the truth? I think that deep down Elena knows it and the more she keeps Damon away, the less she has to really question her actions.
I like so much her journey. It's subtle and fascinating.
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That's it :)
Arabian: Elena03arabian on March 26th, 2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
Damon has been awesome, he's set things in motion, he has been there for the people he loves, he was smart, he learned fast from Sage and basically fooled her and Rebekah too. He wants Stefan and Elena to be together again, because he wants them happy and he thinks this is how they will be happy. He's wrong, of course, but it's Damon who thinks he doesn't deserve to have happiness in his life, so what does he? He tries to fix things. He helps Stefan and lets Elena be mad at him (he so insisted to say that it was him to force Stefan to drink that girl's blood)...how much do I love him?

I just had to quote this whole thing because I loved it and agree with every word.

On the other hand, I don't agree with this:

In the last episode when she told him not to push people away, she was talking about herself, because Damon actually is not pushing anyone away.

Because I do think she was talking about people, and he is pushing other away. I think it was about Alaric too because Damon was (in Elena's mind) choosing to not help Ric either, thus pushing him away too. Obviously, she has no clue how Ric has been treating Damon (as someone he kinda sorta tolerates), so she can't know that Damon no longer feels like his help is wanted when it comes to Ric. Also, Bonnie and he have been in a better place lately, and yet when Elena brought up Bonnie's pain, Damon made sarcastic comments as if he didn't care that Bonnie was hurting. So I do think Elena meant more than herself, even if she only was including Ric as well.

she should just admit that if she had listened to him in 3.14, nothing would have happened. Abby would be still human, Damon and Elena would be still close. She wanted to play the hero and she messed up with things. How naive was of her to believe that Elijah wouldn't have found out the truth? I think that deep down Elena knows it and the more she keeps Damon away, the less she has to really question her actions.

I'd love to see that come out to play, but I'm not sure we'd get explicitly stated. An implication to it would be nice though.

I like so much her journey. It's subtle and fascinating.

me too. I really don't get the hate. It makes me sad. :(