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05 August 2008 @ 07:14 pm
Hi, this is me! :)  
Joining those who are putting up an intro post thanks to the DW friending meme. My profile page was just updated so I'm pretty good there. So what to say ...

I am big on TV, I watch movies and read books a lot too but don't tend to post much on them. When I get INTO something (currently it's Doctor Who) I go on and on (and on and on) about it, in many an entry and long, rambling ones at that. If you ever want to add your two cents and find yourself going on and on as well, know that it's appreciated by me. I likes the meaty posts, the analysis, the digging in deep.

Once the Fall TV season (in US) starts, I'll likely have a more variety of posts, but for now it will mostly be Who and random stuff here and there. I don't post much personal stuff, mostly fandom, and perusing my tags, you'll have a pretty good idea of what fandoms I'm in. :D

PS: That's my cat (one of three), Doyle, in my icon. I know, I know, he has a total bitch-face going on there, but really he's a sweetie-pie.
But you can call me Bowie: dr who 9/rose two of usisiscaughey on August 6th, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
I'm with you on that- when I love something, I really and truly love it with my whole heart. And drive all my friends batty in the process.

Also, that wendymr non-regeneration story ended up going down the threesome road. Sigh. I like Jack quite a lot, I really do, but the Nine/Jack/Rose thing just doesn't work for me.
Arabian: Dr Who (9)arabian on August 6th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)
Thanks for the info. Yeah, I like her writing, but am leery of reading any story that has Jack in it because she goes that route quite often. It really sucks to be not only so against Doctor/Rose/Jack, but really NOT a Jack (or Barrowman) fan AT ALL in this fandom. Sigh. At least you really like Jack. I'm mostly meh with a few bright spots here and there.
But you can call me Bowie: dr who 9/rose two of usisiscaughey on August 6th, 2008 02:51 am (UTC)
That's is hard. I enjoyed Jack in S1 for the amusement (my friends joke that I'm a bit like him, cause I tend to flirt casually with anyone, anytime) but John Barrowman is not a very good dramatic actor- he often makes me cringe on Torchwood due to overacting.

So many good writers write the OT3, but I just can't do it. Especially not set in S1- the Doctor and Rose are just too wrapped up in each other.

I read one or two Ten/Jack/Rose stories (mostly set in an immortal Rose universe) that were ok, but again... the writer has to work really, really hard to convince me. And I have to be feeling really open minded.
Arabian: Brooke&Cook_wtf?arabian on August 6th, 2008 03:14 am (UTC)
My problem with Jack in S1 was that I didn't like how Rose was written very much in that two-parter (what a shocker! Moffat wrote it.) I didn't realize I didn't like it so much, until I rewatched it all, but there it was. She was too flirty and shallow in a way. And Jack was just a part of that. And then, I don't see why he continued to travel with them, which took away some Doctor/Rose bonding in the next three episodes to a degree. I was glad that he was separated from them in TPotW because I was done with him, I wanted my Doctor and Rose, not my Doctor, Rose, and yeah, this guy.

And, honestly, it confuses and slightly bugs me that Jack is treated like he's a companion of the Doctor's like Rose or Donna or Martha, etc. He traveled with them for a few flippin' weeks. That's it.

Then there's the whole supposed great, true friendship between Rose and Jack. Sure they got along, but I never saw this Jack as one of her bestest friends ever, I love him so much and so we must go and find him.

I. Just. Don't. Get. It.

As for the threesomes? I like my OTP as one true PAIRing, not with someone else added to the mix. Period. I stop reading stories when Rose has feelings for Jack (when even Moffat -- MOFFAT for goodness' sake! -- made it clear that Rose's attraction to Jack was based pretty much on the fact that he reminded her of the Doctor, but with dating and dancing. Yeah, I just don't get the Jack-love in the fandom, confuggles me to bits.

Edited at 2008-08-06 03:16 am (UTC)
But you can call me Bowie: dr who 9/rose handsisiscaughey on August 6th, 2008 03:32 am (UTC)
I don't mind other people in the TARDIS- I enjoyed having several characters around in classic Who (like UNIT, or like the Fifth Doctor's crowded TARDIS). But I'm with you- I want the pairing, not a friggin' orgy.

I think a lot of people see the way Jack, Rose, and the Doctor are in Boomtown, and assume they've bonded as friends. I like to imagine that there's a lot of travel time in between episodes, and that there were many adventures (and quiet days) in between those shown.

But going with that, Rose traveled alone with the Doctor long before Jack showed up, and he's still often moody and closed off with her. So I get annoyed at people who assume the Doctor will immediately bond with Jack. Because the alpha male Doctor will of course want to unburden himself to some sketchy, flashy man.

Also, all these OT3s kind of cheapen the Doctor and Rose's relationship... they had so much time, and the fights, and all the delicate moments working out a relationship. Why on Earth would the Doctor suddenly want to jump in bed with Jack, when he hardly knows him, and hasn't had all that relationship building? Nor is the Doctor going to be thinking, "oh, hey, Time Agent in leather trousers- I am suddenly and shallowly inspired to have sex!"
Arabian: Dr Who (10)arabian on August 6th, 2008 03:53 am (UTC)
Yes, yes, yes!!! I do imagine there's travel between episodes, but not enough to justify the bonding bonds of forever eternal lifetime between the Doctor, Rose and Jack. I mean, Mickey fit in pretty damn good in the friendship arena in "Boomtown." I don't see his name mentioned.

It just. I just don't get it. Period. I likely never will.
But you can call me Bowie: dr who the wolf and the stormisiscaughey on August 6th, 2008 04:01 am (UTC)
Hehe- good point. Can't say I've ever come across an OT4 fic.

I imagine a lot of the inspiration is people finding John Barrowman attractive, and basically, writing the OT3 as wish fulfillment. I can see why so many people fangirl him... but he's not really my type. I much prefer Chris.