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26 October 2016 @ 02:19 pm
8.01 - 'Hello, Brother' (The Vampire Diaries)  
Sorry, this took a few days to get up. I really have no excuse. I'm not working (I was let go--it sucks), I'm just in a vortex of everything sucks right now so, uhm, yeah. Except my show. I love my show. With that... onto my beloved show.

I know, I know, I brought this up over and over again last season and here I am starting this season's review with it, but I just can't help it. Pfft! And people thought that The Vampire Diaries (and subsequently, the cast of characters, especially Damon Freaking Salvatore) would forget all about Elena Gilbert when Nina Dobrev left the show. Hah! And let me repeat and add to that… Hah, hah, hahahahaha! Can this show prove them anymore wrong?!

I mean last season was a smorgasbord of Elena mentions, Damon still drowning in his Elena-love-feels, characters were introduced who had never met Elena and they knew who she was and that she was the absolute love of Damon's life. And here we are the next season, the very first episode and the previouslies have a shot of Elena in her Sleeping Beauty pose detailing that curse, as well as Damon being caught in the Armory's evil because he heard Elena's voice. Then whaddya know? The episode begins and ends with not only the gang continuing to write diary entries to Elena, but also a Damon flashback to when he first met Elena, but also with additions to that memory. More on that later, though.

I just have to once again sigh in such joy over how this show has rewarded my faith, and thrill in how Elena Gilbert remains such an integral part of The Vampire Diaries… as she should. And TVD gets that and I love that. Of course I do, it's The Vampire Diaries and I love The Vampire Diaries. Alas we only have one more season left. {{Sobs}} Still, I'm glad they are going out on their terms and I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it, starting with this episode. Wow!

What a great way to start the season, huh? And what a great return from Kevin Williamson, missing in TVD-action since season 03's premiere, "The Birthday." What he brought back with him was especially noticeable in four specific areas. Firstly, erm, the violence-quotient was upped a tad bit and I'm thinking mayhap that was a crossover from The Following? I dunno, but, yeah, I mean, I know, The Vampire Diaries has its moments of violence, but yikes!

Secondly, and more enjoyable, were those moments of oomph! that truly did seem more like a trademark of Williamson. We had the shocking moment of Virginia St. John showing up behind Seline and slicing her throat. I mean, yeah, we totally knew something was going to happen with that knife once we saw the Nanny holding it. And, of course, we knew that Virginia was going to show up as soon as Caroline mentioned that we didn't know where she was… but, her showing up like that, in that moment, going sliiiice was an OOH!moment that we really don't have very often on the show anymore.

And that was just one of them. We also had that oooh! moment when Alaric found the opening out of the cave. I expected a hidden crevice or something, but when he just walked through, I literally went: "Ooh!" Also, Enzo being dragged into the bloody water and those fingers grabbing at his face was another moment that jolted me. Maybe it was just me, but I wasn't expecting it or the others, and it was nice having these little moments again in the show.

Another Williamson-touch (more so I think than another callback to season 01's episode 03, "Friday Night Bites," which he also co-wrote with Julie Plec… which I'll touch upon later) was Bonnie having a realization about something and then flashbacking to the pieces of the puzzle. I liked that here actually more than I did "Friday Night Bites," maybe because I like (hah, like… as if!) the show more now than I did then. But Bonnie picking up on the clues that Enzo left behind for her from The Odyssey was in and of itself pretty cool, but Bonnie thinking on it, I actually did think was a good narrative device. I remembered the candle wax in the ear bit, but I didn't recall the victim against the grill of the car/tied to the mast as easily. So I thought that worked well.

Finally, my favorite Williamson-bit, hehehehe: In early season 01, when Damon still had his switch off, he was able to tolerate Taylor Swift music. Now with his switch off, he reads (and enjoys) chick lit! LOL! Hah, I love it! (And, of course, only with his humanity switch off could he enjoy Fifty Shades of Grey. And, uhm, can those shout-outs end now? Please.)

Speaking of Damon with his humanity switch off, this is really not what I expected. Two things: the first is that Damon really has changed. The last time he turned his switch off was in the 1950's and that was to save himself. He couldn't save Enzo without dying himself and feeling that pain of leaving his friend to die, so he switched it off. This time, he obviously turned the switch off in order to protect those he loves. He knows that if he doesn't care about Stefan, Bonnie, etc. that he won't lead them to where he is and "it" won't be able to hurt them. That is so incredibly selfless of Damon. He's giving up himself, his chance at being saved to keep those he loves safe. Oh, Damon.

The other thing is that this is not humanity-switch off Damon enjoying himself, having a blast and just living vampire life to its fullest. He's somber, resigned. He's just going through the motions. If there was ever any doubt that he is *not* in control, this episode and just about every word out of his mouth made that clear. He is completely under "it's" subjugation. He has no control and is just doing what he has to do, and turning his switch off was the only way to keep his loved ones safe because otherwise, he would be fighting. And he knows that "it" is so powerful that a fighting Damon is reckless and would put his loved ones in danger.

He just has his one escape: Elena, his little bubble of love. Oh, my heart. And that was the other callback to "Friday Night Bites," but with a beautiful twist. In that episode, Stefan wrote in his journal to himself that he didn't believe there was any humanity left in Damon, and he had given up hope, meanwhile we glimpsed Damon looking longingly at Elena as he reached out to caress her hair and face. In this one, Stefan is writing an entry to Elena about his hope that Damon still has a sliver of humanity tucked away, and we see that Damon does, and it is Elena. He's holding onto that memory of their first meeting, but this time there's more, he reaches out and caresses her hair, telling her he needs her, he can barely hold on. Gah! My heart, this show! Geez!

 

Also squeezing my heart in the best way possible? Stefan and Caroline are right on track. Sweet and sunny and just perfect. In love and in synch. Telling each other things, talking each other down from their individual neuroses. Caroline in her OCD control freak ways in the beginning and Stefan calmly, casually in a joking way talking her down, but not in a mean way. (The way Matt and Tyler both did.) And in the end, Caroline there for Stefan to comfort him in his emo, can't-see-the-forest-for-the-trees, 'I just want my brother to love me!' angst.

 

And the rolling around in the bed, post-coitus snuggle time was sweet too! All in all, this Stefan/Caroline fan is a very happy camper.

 

And words I haven't written in a long, long time… this Alaric fan is also a very happy camper because glory be! Alaric Saltzman was Alaric Freaking Saltzman again! I think what I figured out regarding the character towards the end of last season was in fact correct based on this episode.

I think [the show] wanted this great tragic love story for Ric with this woman he met and she was the perfect woman for him and they meshed and it was just beautiful and fabulous and viewers were supposed to fall in love with her and them, and AHHH! It's so perfect and wonderful and then it all ended so horribly and tragically. Oh, noes, so sad, we all wept over the pain and misery of it. And had Matt Davis and Jodi Lyn O'Keefe had chemistry, had O'Keefe's Jo worked really well as a character that story *would* have worked beautifully and all of the above would have happened exactly as I now think it was planned and it *would* have set [season 07] up for what I now think the writers did plan.

[Season 07] was set up for him trying to recapture "normal Alaric that worked with Jo" before the real "Indiana Alaric" came busting through. Alas, Jo and Alaric didn't work. They didn't have this sweeping, beautiful romance that took our breath away. And we needed that to make Alaric's arc last season to work, leading into the [season 07] arc. Jo didn't work. We *really* needed her to work, to make the change in Alaric (and their love story) work to make last season's arc and season [07]'s arc work. So, basically it all boils down to… sorry, show, bad casting on Josette last season. Bad casting screwed up two seasons worth of a character's arc. *sigh* However, I can now see (if I'm right) what the plan of season 06 and season 07 was/is for Alaric Saltzman. So that gives me hope the real Alaric is coming back and we'll have him for the last season at least. Yay!
Again, based on this episode… I do think that's the case, because the Alaric Saltzman we saw in this episode was so, so, sooooooo Ric. So completely, totally Ric. Every second, every single moment was Ric. 100%. Ric excited about artifacts and history and stuff. Ric in caves where he belongs. Ric being hit on by smart, sexy women and responding with a wry, gentlemanly response. Ric worrying about his kids, but still wanting to be around the supernatural action. Ric wanting to be happy someday! That's Alaric Freaking Saltzman! It made me so happy. Squee!!! :) And hopefully once Damon (and maybe even Enzo) is back in the picture, we'll get that real friendship back.

Although, I don't think they'll ever be BFFs like Damon and Bonnie because too much has happened in between, I think. And Bonnie is still there searching for Damon, feeling the loss of Damon. I mean, the hurt on her face when Damon threatened to kill her was so devastating. Oh, Bonnie. My poor Bonnie. I mean, she has to deal with what's going on with Enzo, but at least he's leaving her clues so she knows he's still there, but Damon just seems lost to her right now. But, hey, she's got Enzo. Yay?

I mean, yeah, I guess. I don't dislike them. I thought the flashbacks with them were good. They're certainly no Stefan/Elena or Tyler/Caroline… ugh. I like them; I do. I just don't think that Kat Graham and Michael Malarkey have chemistry. They're just kinda there. So I can watch them and go, 'oh, that's nice,' but I don't feel anything special about them. I'm not moved by them. But, hey, good for Bonnie. (I still would have preferred exploring Bonnie and Matt, but hey, that's just because, sigh, I didn't get my Matt and Rebekah honestly.)

Speaking off... yes, I missed my Matty Blue-Blue, but I'll be patient. And back to Bonnie's actual boyfriend, Enzo, I did find it interesting that he was going a different route than Damon: trying to hold onto his control. He thinks they can be saved? Or not. Because as soon as Bonnie and Stefan showed up, he didn't show any sign at all… I don't know. I'm not sure what Enzo is going for here. Is it because he has so little control that he's just grasping for straws here? Throwing a Hail Mary pass?

Still his efforts certainly did the trick with Bonnie and I did love how it gave us those two Stefan and Bonnie scenes. I've always loved how well Kat Graham and Paul Wesley play off of each other going back to season 01, so I'm enjoying this opportunity to see these two opposite one another. That first scene with Stefan trying so hard to keep up Bonnie's hopes was pure Stefan when his best human traits are amplified. The sincerity, the desire to help, to truly bring out the best comes to the fore. And then in the reverse we saw the Stefan with his blinders on blocking out all reason. He's had his humanity off and knows that Damon saying what he did about blaming him was, well, Damon with his humanity off. Of course, he'll forgive you, Stefan. Oh, boo. So, naturally, this time it was up to Bonnie to inject hope and bring up his spirits. I just loved both scenes bringing out the best in both characters and balancing them out beautifully.

Another balancing act they are doing nicely is Alaric and Caroline. I mentioned in the finale write-up that I wasn't quite pleased with how abruptly they handled that and that we didn't get a flashback episode with them. I still stand by that, but I like what we are seeing with them here. They're talking; they're honest with each other and they are co-parenting really well (so far). Alaric has his crazy job taking over the Armory, and Caroline is working at the news station at Mystic Falls (awesome!) and yet they are still there for the girls. And I like how they're showing them as parents still so far. And, Caroline as Mama Bear is pretty durn awesome. Cracking Virginia's head against the wall, calmly opening the twins' closet door and smiling down at them, telling them to stay put and then taking care of business. Go vampire!mommy Caroline!

Too bad she didn't get any answers from Virginia, because she could bit her tongue off (ewww!) and died first. So, one has to wonder (one being me!), what does "it" want with the twins? Really, seriously… what could a thousands-year old being who wants to eat bunches and bunches of evil people want with a couple of innocent toddler twins? This inquiring mind wants to know.

Speaking of "it…" So I know that we're supposed to believe it's a Siren (especially with the hot, naked chick… really, I know it's the CW, but… geez) what with the Odyssey story and all, and the 'control your mind,' and the singing. I get that, I totes get that. However, could they possibly, maybe, potentially, am I crazy… leading to the possibility that it's NOT just a Siren, but in fact the Devil itself? Because they do talk about how sirens are the messengers of the Devil, and "it" is going after people who have committed evil acts. Damon is philosophizing about Hell and bad choices made. I mean, think about it, in the mythology I know of, sirens are always presented in multiples and this one is just that: One as in singular. Now, if they go this route, how cool would that be? The Vampire Diaries saying the Devil is female. That would be pretty cool. I'm just saying. I dunno, maybe it is just a Siren, but… I dunno. My brain went there.

Alrighty then, time for randoms…

- I supposed I should have mentioned this in last season's finale, but it didn't hit me then. I thought of this during the previouslies. Uhm, how come they couldn't ask another witch to do a locator spell on Damon and Enzo? Bonnie is not the only witch, and certainly not the only one they know. Damon hasn't killed all of them.

- What is just me or did the dead man walking in beginning look a little like an older Zach Roerig (Matt) and sound a lot like him?

- So Caroline's red & white top didn't totally go with her black skirt, I am sorry, but it drove me crazy upon my first viewing. Then I rewatched it and saw that there was just black edging on the shirt, so it kinda worked, but pairing the shirt with the white sweater really, really threw it off. That's what made it so wrong. Show, Caroline would know better fashion-wise. She just would.

- On a better, shallow note… both Bonnie and Caroline's hair looked good.

- Aww, when Caroline was showing the twins' the video of Enzo and Virginia she described Enzo as "Aunt Bonnie's friend." Aww, "Aunt Bonnie." That just made my heart smile.

- Damon (as in Ian Somerhalder) is so hot, especially in the 'hello, brother' scene. Rrowr!

     

- I have to admit I found the twins' game of hide and go seekhide rather amusing.

- Hah, Stefan making it so clear he gives zero fucks about Enzo once he thought he had Damon cracked me up. I mean, it's not like it isn't perfectly in character. After all, Stefan 'killed' Enzo in the past (or rather Enzo made Stefan kill him), Stefan tried to kill Enzo and Stefan set up Tripp to kill Enzo, so definitely no love lost on Stefan's part. Still, it was kinda hilarious how completely obvious Stefan made his complete lack of care for Enzo. He was all, 'I got Damon, let's hit the road, Bon! Enzo, eh, whatevs! I got who I came for.'

- The literal vampire diaries theme continues and I continue to find that awesome.

- Until that final scene with Caroline and Alaric, I did not realize that was the Forbes house, talk about major redecoration, plus we've never seen the kitchen. However, upon rewatch, I really paid attention and that is clearly the front door/hallway and I'd recognize that box-y ceiling for sure.

- I like the three new characters so far. The nanny, Seline, seems cool, total fodder down the road, but still, nice. Georgie, like I said above, comes across as smart, sexy and I like her. Dorian too was fun, nice bit of casting. Still, all three (especially Seline and Dorian) all but scream, 'I will be dead soon,' in fact I thought either Georgie or Dorian were going to die on the way to the cave room, but, hey, they lived through the episode! Yay, them!

- Speaking of… hmm, lots of rich, old stuff in that cave room. And skeleton dude, I wonder who that is. Inquiring minds want to know.

- Yes, yes, whatever, that was a stand-in for the added stuff in Damon's little bubble of Elena hope… I don't care! It was meant to be Elena and that is what matters. And my heart soared!

*sigh* So there we have it, the first episode of the final season of The Vampire Diaries. I really enjoyed it (well, you know what I mean). And I look forward to what they have in store for us. :D

Remember... I'm still flying happy and spoiler-free!
 
 
 
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon 1977 Bloodbogwitch on October 26th, 2016 09:38 pm (UTC)
Yay! It’s a new season. Boo it’s the last.

I’m going to miss this show. I think it is time for it to go, but I am still sad (I am rather miffed about the short season though).

>>the violence-quotient was upped a tad bit

Wasn’t it just? I doesn’t bother me, but that was almost Supernatural levels of grimness.

>>Until that final scene with Caroline and Alaric, I did not realize that was the Forbes house,

Neither did I, that was a bit of a surprise. I didn’t even think they were in Mystic Falls. (I can’t be bothered to look, but is Caroline working for Andi’s old station? If not, how many TV’s stations would a small town have?)

>>Georgie, like I said above, comes across as smart, sexy and I like her.

And way too confident. I found her a bit annoying, tbh.

(Btw – I know I still have comments to make from last season, but I still haven’t finished my rewatch (I’m at 7.03). This is because my friend is watching with me and we are on her timetable. But I will comment, I promise)
Arabian: Damon16arabian on October 27th, 2016 12:38 am (UTC)
I'm bummed about the short season too, but better 16 than 13 and I just figure that it will be extra-awesome and really wrapped up tight. I'm trying to see only the positive here.

Neither did I, that was a bit of a surprise. I didn’t even think they were in Mystic Falls.

I knew they had to be in Mystic Falls since Ric was at the Armory, but didn't think it was the Forbes house at all, but yeah, when you watch it again, that's so the door/hallway and can't miss that ceiling.

As for the station, I didn't check, but I'm just assuming it is (also same one Logan Fell worked at), because, yeah, there just can't be more than one. I'll check one of these days, LOL!

Re: Georgie, I felt that way the first time I watched it, but was surprised that I didn't feel that way upon my rewatch.

Older comments... no problem. I had time off so was able to fly through my s6-s7 rewatch, but when you're watching with someone else (I so envy you), you have to work with their timetable.
Bogwitchbogwitch on November 1st, 2016 11:03 pm (UTC)
I didn't think the Armory was in Mystic Falls either, but that it was nearer the college. Then again that seems to be drifting ever closer to Mystic Falls.

I did the checking! Logan and Andie worked for WPKW9. Caroline worked first for KQBC and is now at WYET9 which is in Mystic Falls too. Maybe they had a name change? I have no idea if they even could or how all these designations work. Our cable channels just seem to change name on a whim (to 'Dave' in one case).

There is no need to envy, I don't get a lot of discussion out of her.
Arabian: Damon04arabian on November 4th, 2016 12:55 pm (UTC)
Then again that seems to be drifting ever closer to Mystic Falls.

The college was always near MF. That was the point of creating Whitmore instead of having them go to Duke. Whitmore was always just outside of Mystic Falls.

I did the checking! Logan and Andie worked for WPKW9. Caroline worked first for KQBC and is now at WYET9 which is in Mystic Falls too. Maybe they had a name change? I have no idea if they even could or how all these designations work. Our cable channels just seem to change name on a whim (to 'Dave' in one case).

Dave, hah! I'm thinking they had a name change (and the producers just forgot the original name) because no way MF has two stations, LOL!
jairem08jairem08 on October 27th, 2016 12:31 pm (UTC)
Happy to see your reveiw. Looking forward to the next. Hope the season will go well. Curious how is it all planned out. I really hope Nina will be back and not only for the finale but a bit more. Still i have to catch up with previous season.
Arabian: Damon09arabian on October 31st, 2016 03:07 pm (UTC)
I have zero doubt that Nina will be back. Yeah, you need to watch last season still, LOL!
(Anonymous) on October 27th, 2016 02:59 pm (UTC)
Hi,
Thankyou for this amazing review. You always have Damons actions and motives nailed and i agree with every word. The man is clever and selfless, prepared to go down alone without taking people down with him. He must feel pretty hopeless right now.
The DE scene gave me the old chills and the rush of feels that only these two can deliver, it was awesome.
Yay for the real Alaric being back. I couldnt agree with you more about him.
I can take or leave steroline, meh!
On the other hand i enjoyed the heck out of Bonnie and Enzo scenes. Enzo is a pure romantic and has certainly got the moves. MM is a sexy guy, and KG knows how to be hot. The odyssey story was a bit contrived and convenient but not terrible enough to ruin the story IMO.
So far so good i think, im intrigued by the SIren so far.
Arabian: Bonnie04arabian on October 31st, 2016 03:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah, whenever we get a glimpse of Damon and Elena, that rush of feelings just comes back. I can't wait till we see them again. (sigh) And I can't wait until Damon is able to break free... we know he will eventually. It's going to be tough until then though.

YES! Real Alaric return, yay!

We definitely switch vs Stefan/Caroline and Bonnie/Enzo, but that's good for the show! Having fans of both. :)
tj2013tj2013 on October 27th, 2016 08:08 pm (UTC)
Hey, it’s great to have you back!

Loved your review, as always. I can’t add much, you covered everything (and much more, thank you for that!) my friend and I were discussing after watching the episode.

In early season 01, when Damon still had his switch off, he was able to tolerate Taylor Swift music
Yeah about that: was it ever officially established that Damon had his emotions switched off at the beginning of Season 1? I always perceived him as being very snarky and cruel, but not without emotions. Although he was reading one of the Twilight books … hm…. LOL.

I was afraid we would get totally carefree, on-a-killing-spree Damon, but what we got was quite different. Unexpected. I liked how they handled the take over of Enzo and Damon by the Siren and how these two are coping differently with it.

He's holding onto that memory of their first meeting, but this time there's more, he reaches out and caresses her hair, telling her he needs her, he can barely hold on. Oh man, that scene. All these feelings.
I very much liked Indiana Saltzman. That was Ric at his best.
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Very intrigued by the siren or - maybe you're right - by the Devil himself (or is it herself?).

Stefan and Caroline don't give me the deeper feels, but I do like them. They are a good team and very sweet. Not very passionate, but, yeah, sweet.

So that was a very interesting premiere and I am looking foward to a great - albeit short - season.
Arabian: Damon12arabian on October 31st, 2016 03:11 pm (UTC)
I don't know if it was ever "officially" established, but Damon sure talked enough about having his humanity switched off, and we saw him casually killing people in the beginning, and not caring. I really think that it was Elena and moments with her that got it flipped fully. But he did way too many things in the first half of season 01 that really can't be justified unless his switch WAS off.

what we got was quite different. Unexpected. I liked how they handled the take over of Enzo and Damon by the Siren and how these two are coping differently with it.

Agreed; that was really unexpected. I have to admit I was looking a bit forward to seeing full-on evil Damon as we've never really, REALLY seen that, but, oh well. But, yeah, the different coping mechanisms are interesting and true to their characters.

All hail the return of Indiana Saltzman!! :D

Edited at 2016-10-31 03:13 pm (UTC)
Bogwitchbogwitch on November 1st, 2016 10:33 pm (UTC)
The switch question vexes me. I have thought about it a lot but I have never come up with an answer that satisfies. I think he never turned it back on, it just faded back in.
Arabian: Damon&Stefan01arabian on November 4th, 2016 01:01 pm (UTC)
It doesn't vex me, I think it makes sense. Go back to what Katherine said to Stefan in "Homecoming."

Katherine: I wasn't just trying to safe Damon's life, Stefan. I was trying to safe yours. Your humanity. Let's just say I liked the "old you" better.

Stefan: Nah. Come on, Katherine. You don't care about anybody but yourself. You never have.

Katherine: You and I both know that that is not true. I loved you, I've loved Damon, too. Humanity is a vampire's greatest weakness...No matter how easy it is to turn it off- it just keeps trying to fight it's way back in. Sometimes I let it.

That's EXACTLY what happened with Damon. His humanity just kept fighting it's way back in... because of Elena, and of course, being with his baby brother again. And unlike Katherine, he's not a stone-cold bitch who only loved four people in 500 years (Nadia--why even?, oh wait, it does make sense it's just that Olga Fonda sucked so hard!, Elijah, Stefan and Damon), so for him it wasn't a case of "Sometimes I let it." For Damon, humanity happened, it much more easily slipped in.

That always made sense to me. I mean, we saw it happen. We saw it happen in those moments with Elena where she got to him. And then, when Stefan would enrage him or remind him, 'Wait, I'm supposed to be the uncaring asshole here!,' he would stiffen up and tighten up security on his humanity switch.

Matt: Ghidorahghidorah15 on October 31st, 2016 03:15 pm (UTC)
I really don't have anything to add. You said it all so well. :)
Arabian: Damon18arabian on October 31st, 2016 03:45 pm (UTC)
OK, then. :)
ThroughAnAmberFocusamberfocus on November 8th, 2016 04:28 am (UTC)
Oh, I think there's a lot of chemistry between Bonnie and Enzo. I like them. I find them harder to ship though. I think I could if they'd built the relationship properly in chronological order and not in flashbacks. It was short-changed a lot by the format of that season. But there's a spark there and a sweetness that makes me happy.
Arabian: Bonnie02arabian on November 15th, 2016 03:54 am (UTC)
I don't know, maybe I would like them more, find them more ship-pable as a couple it it had happened exactly as you said. I get the point with Caroline/Alaric (not that we saw their flashbacks), Stefan/Valerie and Matt/Penny because those were not intended to be, but since Bonnie and Enzo clearly are I think that building their relationship from the season's start (probably not the 1st kiss-save that for the flashback episode). And instead of having the surprise of Enzo/Bonnie in the flashforward, just have it be Bonnie in the psych ward.

But, oh well.
Florencia: DE (The Wreck of Our Hearts)florencia7 on March 14th, 2017 12:17 pm (UTC)
RE: 8.01 / 1
(I'm so sorry about the work situation. I hope by now it's changed for the better *hugs*)

“Alas we only have one more season left.” - Have you heard that Julie said that in 5 or 10 years they might shoot some kind of a continuation??? I'd absolutely love if they did a TVD movie. That'd be so awesome.

“I expected a hidden crevice or something, but when he just walked through, I literally went: "Ooh!"” - Yes, that was good! I didn't see that coming either.

“But Bonnie picking up on the clues that Enzo left behind for her from The Odyssey was in and of itself pretty cool, but Bonnie thinking on it, I actually did think was a good narrative device. I remembered the candle wax in the ear bit, but I didn't recall the victim against the grill of the car/tied to the mast as easily. So I thought that worked well.” - I also thought it was well done.

“Speaking of Damon with his humanity switch off, this is really not what I expected.” - Ha, you and me both!

“That is so incredibly selfless of Damon. He's giving up himself, his chance at being saved to keep those he loves safe.” - Not to undermine that assumption or anything (of course not! ♥ lol), but in light of all the episodes that followed, doesn't it seem more like Damon was *pretending* to have his switch off at that point? Not to mention that he himself said quite a while ago that after so many years the on/off switch is fried and it doesn't really work in such a simple, clear-cut way anymore.

“He has no control and is just doing what he has to do, and turning his switch off was the only way to keep his loved ones safe because otherwise, he would be fighting. And he knows that "it" is so powerful that a fighting Damon is reckless and would put his loved ones in danger.” - Er, but if I'm not mistaken this very episode ends with Damon saying that he IS fighting. He uses the very words while flashing back to his first meeting with Elena. That's one of the reasons why I assumed he was more faking the switch off than actually having it switched off for real.

“In this one, Stefan is writing an entry to Elena about his hope that Damon still has a sliver of humanity tucked away, and we see that Damon does, and it is Elena.” - Yes, that callback was beautiful. I loved the juxtaposition of that 1x03 line with this one.

“I do think that's the case, because the Alaric Saltzman we saw in this episode was so, so, sooooooo Ric. So completely, totally Ric. Every second, every single moment was Ric. 100%. Ric excited about artifacts and history and stuff. Ric in caves where he belongs.” - Yes, it was really great seeing him in his element again.

“That first scene with Stefan trying so hard to keep up Bonnie's hopes was pure Stefan when his best human traits are amplified.” - Oh dear. I totally forgot about that scene. And I loved it. And now I'm sad because of what happened later in regard to Stefan and Bonnie... In fact I'm still very sad overall. Who knew that the reason why I don't know when I'll be emotionally ready to re-watch the entire series will be because of Stefan? Lol

“However, could they possibly, maybe, potentially, am I crazy… leading to the possibility that it's NOT just a Siren, but in fact the Devil itself?” - CLAIRVOYANT MUCH, EH??? lol! You totally called it :D
Arabian: Damon05arabian on May 2nd, 2017 01:59 am (UTC)
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(I'm so sorry about the work situation. I hope by now it's changed for the better *hugs*)

Thank you. Yes, I do have a new job. I like it overall much better. There are a few downsides, but overall, MUCH, MUCH better atmosphere.

“Alas we only have one more season left.” - Have you heard that Julie said that in 5 or 10 years they might shoot some kind of a continuation??? I'd absolutely love if they did a TVD movie. That'd be so awesome.

No, I did not. VERY INTERESTING!!!! Me too.

“I expected a hidden crevice or something, but when he just walked through, I literally went: "Ooh!"” - Yes, that was good! I didn't see that coming either.

It was sooooooooooo cool!

“That is so incredibly selfless of Damon. He's giving up himself, his chance at being saved to keep those he loves safe.” - Not to undermine that assumption or anything (of course not! ♥ lol), but in light of all the episodes that followed, doesn't it seem more like Damon was *pretending* to have his switch off at that point? Not to mention that he himself said quite a while ago that after so many years the on/off switch is fried and it doesn't really work in such a simple, clear-cut way anymore.

Well, I'm pretty sure that he did have his switch off. Damon hadn't killed indiscriminately with no issue in a long time, and to kill as much as he did with his humanity switch off just wouldn't have made any sense. As for the switch slipping on and off, Damon may have said that, but we heard about that first from Katherine when she told Stefan that humanity is strong and that it keeps trying to sneak in. That's what happened when Damon it seemed like Damon's switch was on, it was... his humanity was slipping through.

Er, but if I'm not mistaken this very episode ends with Damon saying that he IS fighting. He uses the very words while flashing back to his first meeting with Elena. That's one of the reasons why I assumed he was more faking the switch off than actually having it switched off for real.

I guess I should have re-worded that. When I said he wasn't fighting, I meant he wasn't fighting the Vault darkness/Sybil, disobeying, trying to get away, trying to take this new big bad down or come with some grand master plan to end their reign of evil. He was going along with it, trying to not rile it up, not cause any problems unlike Enzo. That is how he is not fighting. The Elena memory is basically his island of sanity. It's how he is keeping himself from completely losing himself. He's not fighting the Vault with it, he's fighting for his soul. Totally different.

“the Alaric Saltzman we saw in this episode was so, so, sooooooo Ric. So completely, totally Ric. Every second, every single moment was Ric. 100%. Ric excited about artifacts and history and stuff. Ric in caves where he belongs.” - Yes, it was really great seeing him in his element again.

Sigh, and that so did not last. Double sigh.

“However, could they possibly, maybe, potentially, am I crazy… leading to the possibility that it's NOT just a Siren, but in fact the Devil itself?” - CLAIRVOYANT MUCH, EH??? lol! You totally called it :D

Erm, sorta. I thought that the Vault thing *was* the Devil, not that it was being controlled by the Devil. I was close, though. :)
Florencia: DE (The Wreck of Our Hearts)florencia7 on May 12th, 2017 03:17 pm (UTC)
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"Yes, I do have a new job. I like it overall much better. There are a few downsides, but overall, MUCH, MUCH better atmosphere." - That's great to hear! ♥

"He's not fighting the Vault with it, he's fighting for his soul. Totally different." - Oh I see. Now I see what you meant. That's a valid difference, yes.

"I was close, though." - It was VERY close.
Arabian: Damon06arabian on May 14th, 2017 05:24 pm (UTC)
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I guess when I write this one up next time, I'll describe it more like this.

Eh, I don't know, I think you're still giving me too much credit, LOL!
Florencia: Elena (Stars)florencia7 on May 28th, 2017 04:13 pm (UTC)
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"Eh, I don't know, I think you're still giving me too much credit, LOL!" - Nope. In this regard, I'm totally right! ♥
Arabian: Elena09arabian on July 1st, 2017 05:22 pm (UTC)
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OK, I'll take it. :D
Florencia: DE (The Wreck of Our Hearts)florencia7 on July 2nd, 2017 11:46 am (UTC)
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Florencia: DE (It Only Hurts When I Breathe)florencia7 on March 14th, 2017 12:18 pm (UTC)
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“The Vampire Diaries saying the Devil is female.” - Ha, you were pretty much right once again, because as it turned out the devil ended up being technically Katherine! And I feel like we should've figured this one out a long time ago hahaha

“Hah, Stefan making it so clear he gives zero fucks about Enzo once he thought he had Damon cracked me up.” - Yes, I thought it was hilarious, especially since he was there with Bonnie, so did he honestly expected her to be OK with leaving Enzo behind? Oh Stefan lol

“After all, Stefan 'killed' Enzo in the past (or rather Enzo made Stefan kill him), Stefan tried to kill Enzo and Stefan set up Tripp to kill Enzo, so definitely no love lost on Stefan's part.” - I think this whole storyline deserves its own meta, because I feel like I'm not grasping everything that it's there to grasp, especially in the context of how it all ended.

“The nanny, Seline, seems cool” - They fooled me too! Haha And Dorian made it all the way to the finale! That was a surprise. As for Georgie, I hope she eventually found peace. I really don't see how she wouldn't, seeing how even Grayson Gilbert made it to heaven and I'm pretty sure him torturing vampires for years should rank a little higher than one horrible wrong choice Georgie made. Just saying ;)
Arabian: Damon & Elena15arabian on May 2nd, 2017 02:08 am (UTC)
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“The Vampire Diaries saying the Devil is female.” - Ha, you were pretty much right once again, because as it turned out the devil ended up being technically Katherine! And I feel like we should've figured this one out a long time ago hahaha

That is true that in th end, Katherine wound up controlling Hell, but to be fair, I did get it wrong. I did, LOL! And, yes, once we realized that Katherine was clearly in Hell, we should have mnown that she would inevitably end up in charge.

“Hah, Stefan making it so clear he gives zero fucks about Enzo once he thought he had Damon cracked me up.” - Yes, I thought it was hilarious, especially since he was there with Bonnie, so did he honestly expected her to be OK with leaving Enzo behind? Oh Stefan lol

That really did crack me up. It's the things like that about TVD that crack me up so much. I mean, like Elena being all "Damon's OK?" right after Stefan pretty much said 'yeah, so I just killed myself, I'm dead now,' cracked me up so hard. And the show does stuff like that all the time because these people are in so many true LIFE OR DEATH situations that they know you don't fool around, you tell it like it is... so they do. LOL!

“After all, Stefan 'killed' Enzo in the past (or rather Enzo made Stefan kill him), Stefan tried to kill Enzo and Stefan set up Tripp to kill Enzo, so definitely no love lost on Stefan's part.” - I think this whole storyline deserves its own meta, because I feel like I'm not grasping everything that it's there to grasp, especially in the context of how it all ended.

Seriously, do you want me to do more full-on breakdowns of Stefan and Enzo's relationship and interaction when I do my "first" watch re-posts of the entire series? I can do that.

“The nanny, Seline, seems cool”

As you know, my feelings on her did not stay that way long, LOL!

Dorian made it all the way to the finale! That was a surprise.

Right? *sigh* I like the character a lot, I just wish (sigh) they had recast better. Especically if they do have some 'Boarding School For The Gifted' spin-off. Ah well.

As for Georgie, I hope she eventually found peace. I really don't see how she wouldn't, seeing how even Grayson Gilbert made it to heaven and I'm pretty sure him torturing vampires for years should rank a little higher than one horrible wrong choice Georgie made. Just saying ;)

Agreed. WAH!!! Damnit, damnit, damnit! I loved Georgie!


Edited at 2017-05-02 11:47 pm (UTC)
Florencia: DE (It Started to Rain)florencia7 on May 12th, 2017 12:16 pm (UTC)
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"And, yes, once we realized that Katherine was clearly in Hell, we should have mnown that she would inevitably end up in charge." - That's true. How oh how could we ever think she wouldn't?! lol

"Seriously, do you want me to do more full-on breakdowns of Stefan and Enzo's relationship and interaction when I do my "first" watch re-posts of the entire series? - YES!!!!!!!!! Yes! Please do!!!! :D

"I like the character a lot, I just wish (sigh) they had recast better." - He was supposed to unassuming, so I guess they focused on that while casting ;)

"I loved Georgie!" - Yeah, I REALLY hoped she would stick around for longer :(
Arabian: Stefan03arabian on May 14th, 2017 05:25 pm (UTC)
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That's true. How oh how could we ever think she wouldn't?! lol

Seriously? How did we NOT see this?!??!?

RE: Stefan/Enzo... I will spend more time on them for sure then.

Unassuming is one thing, but I think he could be a stronger actor, that's the thing.
Florencia: DE (I've Never Felt More Alive)florencia7 on May 28th, 2017 03:56 pm (UTC)
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"RE: Stefan/Enzo... I will spend more time on them for sure then." - Great! :D
Arabian: Stefan04arabian on July 1st, 2017 05:21 pm (UTC)
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I'm making notes on certain episodes and on eps that feature Stefan/Enzo I literally have 'Stefan/Enzo' written under those as a reminder, LOL!
Florencia: DE (The Wreck of Our Hearts)florencia7 on July 2nd, 2017 11:54 am (UTC)
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"I'm making notes on certain episodes and on eps that feature Stefan/Enzo I literally have 'Stefan/Enzo' written under those as a reminder, LOL!" - That's great! ;D