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07 May 2016 @ 12:44 am
7.21 - 'Requiem For A Dream' (The Vampire Diaries)  
OK, it only took me until the season was nearly over, but here I am still getting these bad boys up on time. Yeah, baby!! :D

Well, the rule of 21 holds. What a great episode. And I'm just gonna dive right in. So, Damon's porch speech about Elena is why if you're not watching the show because you think there's no Damon/Elena right now is reason number one as to why you are wrong! YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING THE SHOW because you're missing out on all of the glorious Damon/Elena moments like that. I rewound it about five times. Seriously, it was wonderful! *sigh* Damon recounting where they first kissed, she told him she loved him, she took the cure, how he would get her back, calling her his girl, "My Elena." I just—gosh, I loved it. And I rewound it about five times. And I smiled. I smiled so hard. *double sigh* Yes, I know that he didn't mean mean it because he was trying to rile Bonnie up and get her to come back to them, well, mean the part about wishing she was dead so that he could get Elena back… but all of the other stuff… *triple sigh*

The first kiss… of course, I flashbacked to it in my head, but for you all:

 
 

The first time Elena had the courage to tell him that she loved him, flashback in my head, but visual representation:

 

When she took the cure, the flashback in my head, but here's the pretty, pretty:

 
 

It was just so lovely. Seriously, even without Nina Dobrev on the canvas this season has gone beyond my expectations, overwhelmed my heart with all the feels in how they have cherished the Damon/Elena love story. There has never been one moment of doubt that Elena is still the beating heart of Damon Salvatore. She is the love of his life; she is a part of his soul and he is impatiently waiting to be reunited with her. Their love story has continued throughout this season, her presence strong through many an episode.

As well it just hasn't been through the Damon and Elena love story. It's been as Bonnie and Caroline's best friend, and also as Stefan's friend and Matt's. She was, is and remains an important person to all of them and that has not been forgotten for a moment. And as much as she means to all of them, every single one of them knows that she means the most, is everything to Damon. Elena has not only not been forgotten, she's still here. Nina Dobrev may not have been in the cast this season, and Elena Gilbert may not have been physically present, but Elena, and Damon and Elena are still here this season.

And as much as I do love my Damon/Bonnie besties, I'm glad we got the acknowledgement that while Damon does love (BFF-style) Bonnie, yes, there is a small part of him that wants her dead. He wishes that he hadn't saved her in Amsterdam. He does resent that she's the reason he's not with Elena RIGHT. NOW. Because that's real and believable. Still as Damon said—actions speak louder than words. And he really did say/do all of that to wake her up, to keep her from letting herself drift off into death.

I really loved that scene. Even if it ended with my favorite besties staking one another and ripping the other's heart out at roughly the same time. Oh well, it *is* The Vampire Diaries.

That brings me to one of my favorite things about The Vampire Diaries: their beginning, mid, and season-ending parallels. In the first episode of this season, Damon waited three seconds before saving Bonnie's life in Amsterdam. He briefly considered letting her die so that he could get Elena back. A little past the mid-way point (episode 13), Damon didn't wait even a millisecond to save Bonnie's life after she was attacked by Rayna. Of course, at that moment, Damon believed that Elena was dead, thus Bonnie dying would only cost him his best friend; there wouldn't be the benefit of the love of his life waking up. However, now here we are near the end, and once again, Damon makes the decision to save Bonnie's life without thought or hesitation, even going so far as to use his wanting Elena back so Bonnie should just die anyway, to get her to... well, not die. He saved her life fora third time, but this time, he not only did it without reservation, he did so *knowing* that Elena was still alive. That is growth, my friends. (Man, I love these season long triple parallels!)

*quadruple sigh*

What can I say? I love, love, loved the Damon and Bonnie stuff. And that whole scene there at the end where he admitted this was his entire fault—and, yeah, it does rather all tie back to mistakes he made. Oh, Damon. His asking her to forgive him for making her do this, taking it on himself just had me near tears. Oh, Damon {{sobs}}. Ack! Ian Somerhalder did so good, and Kat Graham did so good during the whole episode, she really, really did—but that scene there? That one was all Ian. He just ripped my heart out—metaphorically-speaking—those big, blue eyes of his used to devastating effect. (Kudos, Mr. Paul Wesley with the directorial choice there.) Everything about that scene, the script, the direction, the acting, was just beautifully, beautifully done.

And with Damon, what he said to Bonnie, it ties into what I've been saying the last few episodes about him opening up, showing his vulnerable heart to those he cares about in a way that he'd only done to Elena in the past. Now he's done so to Bonnie (ugh, so beautiful). And, remember, Matt heard him too.

So, yes, Damon is still getting the 'you suck' treatment, but it's lightening up a bit. I mean, a few episodes ago, they were all genuinely mad at him and thought he was the worst. Now, Enzo is working with him. Stefan's only joking about it. Bonnie, even under this vampire-hating spell, hesitated long enough that Matt was able to vervain-shoot her to stop her, and, well, Matt—for whatever reason he tells himself—did save Damon's life.

Speaking of Matt lying to himself about why he saved Damon—he lied! He totally lied because he saved him because he loves him. I know he does; I know it in my heart! He loves him! I will believe this until Matt actually kills Damon himself—which he never will because MATT LOVES DAMON! He's the brother he never had! Plus, OHMYGOD! That little speech at the end between Damon and Matt? Did you guys see that? That was Damon opening the door of communication and friendship and respect. Matt Donovan doesn't realize it yet, but Damon has just initiated him into the Damon Salvatore ‘you are in my heart' fan club. The charm, the vulnerable moments will soon follow. Matt doesn't stand a chance. Hell, he's already halfway there; he just doesn't realize it. Mwahahahaha. My Matt/Damon friendship dream-come-true is happening!! {rubs hands together in glee!}

Ahem, now I must step back and take a moment to be shallow. I don't like Zach Roerig's hair right now. But I still love Matt. Do you know what I also love? How Matt and Bonnie look to being thrown together. Uh huh. Who called it? Me! I did! That would be this person!

But wait! First let me talk about Bonnie and Enzo. I do think they're sweet, but I think I'm putting them in the Stefan and Elena category of sweet that categorized their early relationship. (Well, without the stalking and lying and keeping secrets, of course.) I just don't feel anything else for them. Of course, I'm not saying that Bonnie and Matt would be, could have anything more, but the possibility excites me more because of how deeply I love both characters. Plus, when Bonnie is not overtaken by a Huntress-curse she and Matt would have the supernatural issue to battle which would create sparks potentially.

Enzo and Bonnie are just kinda… you know, there. I mean, even Damon's with the program already. How… boring. And I have to say that I rather think that the dreamscape between Bonnie and Enzo where she wouldn't play the guitar, wouldn't tarnish their memories played almost like a sweet goodbye to me. (Well, you know, before she went all Huntress and tried to kill him.) I almost wonder if that was the beginning of the end of them, and we'll see that down the line. I'm not saying that they are done now, no, not even close. I just think that there is definitely a strong possibility of a Matt/Bonnie/Enzo triangle even more now. After all, we LITERALLY saw Matt close the book (folder) on Penny and then he went to Bonnie and stood hours waiting for her. Meanwhile, Bonnie LITERALLY told Enzo she was putting them in the past during her dream state and then turned to Matt as her partner. Talk about symbolism.

Sure, things went squirrelly in the final scene between Matt and Bonnie, but they were driving some time, Matt's not down and out. They are still together somewhere, there is no way that Matt Donovan is giving up the good fight, and as Matt is *not* a vampire, Bonnie will have a much harder time killing him, so we very well might have that push-pull, I was talking about in the last write-up. Yeah, we might wind up with the two joining the crew in the next episode, but then again, we might not. We don't know yet how little or how much time they'll be spending together. So all bets are off right now.

And that's the same case for Stefan and Caroline, isn't it? Well, well, well, isn't this an interesting predicament… Caroline and Stefan on the run together, just like Stefan and Valerie for the last three years, but in reverse of the hunted. Obviously, this is not going to last another three years. But it doesn't have to. It's only been a handful of hours and Caroline is already starting to break. I mean, really?

Oh, Caroline, you can't even say "I love you" to Ric? Girl, even if you aren't still in love with Stefan (and you totally are), Ric deserves better. But on the other hand, Ric so knows she doesn't love him and he is completely totally settling for this, practically begging for this—so I can't really get on Caroline's case for her situation with Ric when he's actively gung-ho about it. And, no, I'm not going to get into the why of that again other than to say his heart's been broken so thoroughly before that it's safer to love than be in love and Caroline fits the bill. I've already lain out in way more detail why I believe this is the case in previous write-ups, no need to do so once more.

The situation with Caroline and Stefan, though, that's hairier. He did ask her to join him. She said no. He did try and get her to be with him and she gave excuses because she didn't want to leave the babies. It was obvious how much she already loved them, so when he went to see her, went to get her to come with him and saw her as that family unit already, he truly was thinking of her, of what she wanted. The problem is that he didn't talk to her, he didn't give her a chance and that's because Stefan was scared that she wouldn't choose him so he didn't give her that choice. Again, as always, when Stefan gives someone a "choice" it's about him, not about the other person.

Oh, and speaking of choices. Ahem. Thank you so much show for continuing to strike daggers into the heart of the "true love" of Stefan and Elena. Bwahahahaha! It was actually brought up that Stefan "respected" Elena's choice and saved Matt instead of her, and Stefan now admits that it was the wrong thing to do. That when you love someone that much you choose them. When it comes to life and death, you don't make that kind of choice. Uhm, DUH! But, hmm, funny how he didn't realize that when it was Elena's life on the line, but it's clear as day when it's Caroline's, huh? Nope, not funny at all just makes it all that much more obvious that it wasn't Elena who was his true love after all. Uh huh. Bless you show. Loves it.

Anyhoo, moving on from my never-will-end enjoyment of death-to-Stefan/Elena-ness, back to Stefan/Caroline-ness. So clearly, Caroline is already cracking. She can't talk to Stefan about Ric because if she does, it will lead to talk about feelings, and talk about feelings will lead to talk about feelings about Stefan. Uh huh. And, right now, whoa, Caroline can barely even look at Stefan because it's too hard. It's too hard because she gets why he did what he did rationally, but it still hurts… and the fact that it still hurts (and clearly so much) tells that she loves and clearly so much. So, yeah, this isn't going to take three years, or three months. Stefan is still in love with Caroline. Caroline is still in love with Stefan. He knows it; she knows it; Ric knows it. Everyone knows it. It's just a matter of time before they deal with it. It's the fall-out that's the issue because it's just not Stefan, Caroline and Ric… there are two little girls who call her mommy involved too.

So I do wonder what's going to happen. I really do. Honestly, I think they'll figure out a way to get the curse severed between the last Everlasting and Bonnie before the season ends so Matt, Bonnie, Stefan and Caroline are able to return. Perhaps, in the process this ends Bonnie's life and then Matt has to use normal a ‘bring her back to life' procedure, CPR, mouth-to-mouth, etc. and we get Elena back (if Nina Dobrev is coming back next season—pretty pretty please). Either way, I don't expect the Bonnie-Huntress to last beyond this season. I expect the Armory evil to be the issue that has to be dealt with in season 08 (presumably—if Ian Somerhalder knows what he's talking about—the final season).

So, randoms –

- Man, they did the opener fake-out again! (Like with the Damon episode, "Hell Is Other People.") And I totally bought it… until she chopped off Caroline's head!!! Dude! I so did not need to see that, thank you very much!

- Awww! Damon told Bonnie he loved her! And the Damon/Bonnie shippers must have cheered and screamed like crazy... for all of two seconds until he finished the sentence... Just like Elena loved her. Bwahahaha! (Yes, I'm evil. But, dude, how much more obvious could they have made it since season 06 began all the way through now that Damon and Bonnie are N-O-T-H-I-N-G but platonic besties? I do not know. There has been zero, zip, zilch, nada. There has been not a glimmer of ANYTHING to suggest that there is anything romantic, sexual, or chemical between them at all. It's COMPLETELY platonic, brother/sister all the way.)

- Yeah, totes knew the Armory of evil was coming back into play. Duh, didn't everyone.

- So looks like at this point no Jeremy-hunter thingie. {Pouts} Well, to be fair, Rayna's huntress thing IS different from Jeremy's hunter thing. No, "The Five" at play here.

- Man, Bonnie was cold and deadly with just glimmers of "our" Bonnie shining through. Kat Graham did an awesome job. I do love how this season has allowed some of our regulars to have absolutely stellar episodes to stand-out (Ian Somerhalder in "Hell Is Other People," Paul Wesley in "I Went Into The Woods" and now Graham in this.) Hopefully, our other cast will have that opportunity next season.

- Speaking of Paul Wesley, giving him his due, this was easily his best directing effort. (Although, I do think the Damon heart-rippage, Bonnie-stake could have been shot a bit more clearly. I had to rewind that a few times to figure out what happened because Bonnie staking Damon wasn't really obvious.) Still, overall, really, really nice job. Great performances—which Wesley normally does get out of the actors, I remember he actually managed to get a half-way decent performance out of Nathaniel Buzolic and that's damn near a miracle, some really beautiful shots, good pace, all-around just really nice job.

Overall, really great episode, but then, yeah, episode 21's usually do it for me! I can't believe there is only one episode left this season, wow! I can't wait to see what they have in store for us. Woohoo!
 
 
 
Mattghidorah15 on May 7th, 2016 10:00 pm (UTC)
Heheheheh...I knew you'd rejoice over the show flat-out confirming that Stefan made the wrong damn choice with Elena back in "The Departed" and he knows it. And for him to say so to Caroline, his true soulmate, after making the hard but right choice to save her from Huntress Bonnie? BOOYAH! Suck it, Stelena fanatics! :D

Also good, yes, was Damon not only reiterating his true love for Elena (man, do I hope we see her again soon), but affirming that he loves Bonnie like a sister, just as Elena loved (loves, really) her. Ian definitely nailed it in that scene. And I'm glad that Matt was present to hear it, even if he didn't admit it - after he closed the book on Penny and came to help Bonnie, like you said. I hope this is indeed the beginning of the end for that warped mindset into which Penny helped him sink.

As for Enzo, who knows how long it'll be before he and Bonnie are over for good? The end of Stefan and Elena as a couple took less time than we expected, after all. And Alaric...yeah, he clearly doesn't love Caroline in the way he's tried to claim. While the situation with the twins is going to be tricky to resolve, I do hope that it will lead to the return of the Alaric we know and love.

And I, too, hope that Huntress Bonnie will die and give way to the real Bonnie before the finale is over, leaving room for the unseen monster in the Armory to be the Big Bad of Season Eight. And if Nina Dobrev returns as a series regular as well, so much the better. (Mind you, I know she'll be back at least as a special guest star for the final episodes of the series, but hopefully not just that.)
Arabian: Matt02arabian on May 7th, 2016 10:15 pm (UTC)
(Psst! I did do a Take Two for Episode 7.20, if you missed it.)

Yes, I loved, loved that Stefan admitted he "respecting" Elena's choice, and yeah, baby admitting it to Caroline! HAH! Loves it so hard.

And uber-yes'es to all of the Damon/Bonnie/Matt and Ian-performance stuff. I just adored that stuff. Again, what can I say, episode 21's rock!

I don't see how Huntress-Bonnie isn't resolved too soon. If this was in the finale, I'd think it was going to run a bit longer, but not with one episode to go, you know?

Oh, to have Nina back full-time would be amazeballs!! I mean, we never got Damon/Elena as a couple for a full season, while Stefan/Elena got two full seasons. It would be so lovely, but I'm not holding my breath. But, yeah, it would be nice.
(Anonymous) on May 8th, 2016 02:44 am (UTC)
I didn't miss it, I just felt I had nothing to add.

*sigh* Only one episode left in this season. Not an easy wait.
Arabian: Rebekah02arabian on May 8th, 2016 03:32 am (UTC)
Gotcha, mystery person!
Matt: Ghidorahghidorah15 on May 8th, 2016 02:44 am (UTC)
Ugh...damn Livejournal didn't log me in the first time. Apologies.
Arabian: Rebekah03arabian on May 8th, 2016 03:33 am (UTC)
LOL! Dontcha hate that?
tj2013tj2013 on May 9th, 2016 11:39 am (UTC)
I totally adored this episode. Thanks for posting again so quickly :-)

And with Damon, what he said to Bonnie, it ties into what I've been saying the last few episodes about him opening up, showing his vulnerable heart to those he cares about in a way that he'd only done to Elena in the past. Now he's done so to Bonnie (ugh, so beautiful). And, remember, Matt heard him too.

This! The Bonnie-Damon scenes were the heart of the episode. Second best of the episode was the Damon-Matt-stuff. My Matt/Damon friendship dream-come-true is happening!! {rubs hands together in glee!} Yeah, me too.

And the porch! My heart... Thanks for your pretty gifs, by the way. Awesome.

Haha, I was shouting "Yes yes thank you, show", when Stefan explained to Caroline why he wouldn't let her die... Stefan and Elena were drawn together, yes, they loved each other (for a while), but true love? Nah!

That was Paul directing? Didn't catch that. Huh. Good job.

And one more thing, although I don't know if it was intentional: Stefan mentions him not saving Elena in 3x22, and then we have Caroline crying on the phone talking to Ric, and I thought the scene was shot quite similar to Elena talking to Damon on the phone in that very episode. Might not mean anything at all, it just struck me as a parallel.


Edited at 2016-05-10 02:10 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Stefan & Caroline11arabian on May 11th, 2016 05:26 pm (UTC)
I totally adored this episode. Thanks for posting again so quickly :-)

You're welcome. And yuppers, such a great episode.

The Bonnie-Damon scenes were the heart of the episode. Second best of the episode was the Damon-Matt-stuff.

Yes, yes, yes!

Haha, I was shouting "Yes yes thank you, show", when Stefan explained to Caroline why he wouldn't let her die... Stefan and Elena were drawn together, yes, they loved each other (for a while), but true love? Nah!

I know, right?! Totally awesome. So much love for ALL OF THAT so hard!

That was Paul directing? Didn't catch that. Huh. Good job.

Yup, I try to catch who the writers/directors are. He did a really good job this time. Except for the heart-rippage/staking with Bonnie/Damon. That was confusing. Other than that, really nice.

And one more thing, although I don't know if it was intentional: Stefan mentions him not saving Elena in 3x22, and then we have Caroline crying on the phone talking to Ric, and I thought the scene was shot quite similar to Elena talking to Damon on the phone in that very episode. Might not mean anything at all, it just struck me as a parallel.

I don't know; I mean she was with Stefan, and the guy she was on the phone with was the guy she *isn't* supposed to be with so it was the reverse of it. I don't know... but I'll bear it in mind when I rewatch it. Interesting.
ThroughAnAmberFocus: Vampire Diaries Carolineamberfocus on May 12th, 2016 12:42 am (UTC)
If they are going to resolve the thing in the armory this soon, I wonder if they'll somehow use the twins to do it. It would be extremely bad parenting, but they probably are strong enough to siphon off all that magic.

So is it confirmed Nina will come back for the final episodes next season? Or is that just a rumor.
Arabian: Caroline03arabian on May 12th, 2016 01:44 am (UTC)
Hmm, I can't imagine they'll use the twins, God, that would be awful. Plus, I don't they'd be strong enough for that. I imagine the armory evil is probably a set-up for next season. Generally the set-up for next season happens in the last episode or so of the season beforehand.

I haven't heard anything about Nina being back at all except to wrap up Elena's story's essentially, which got twisted into the series finale, which got twisted some places into the season finale. Honestly, I just assume it means whenever Ian leaves the show. Which he has said is almost certainly next season. He had said at a convention a few weeks ago that next season was TVD's last, but then rescinded that on twitter, saying that it wasn't TVD's last, but pretty much *his* last TVD season. However, I think the original plan was this was going to be his last, but plans changed so yeah, Nina might be in the finale for an appearance, but I dunno.

Regardless, I do expect her to pop up next season sometime. Hopefully not just in the finale, but before then, but who knows?

Edited at 2016-05-12 01:45 am (UTC)
ThroughAnAmberFocusamberfocus on May 24th, 2016 05:18 pm (UTC)
Have you done the write up for the finale or are you planning to do one?
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on May 24th, 2016 11:31 pm (UTC)
Of course I'm gonna do one. I generally take a bit of time to do the finale write-up. I like to let it germinate in my brain since I tend to also talk about the whole season as well. I plan on rewatching the finale again this weekend and probably writing it up. (Although if I do that will be the quickest I've done the finale write-up in about 3 seasons, LOL! It normally takes 1 to 2 months.)
Florencia: DE (The Wreck of Our Hearts)florencia7 on March 13th, 2017 10:00 am (UTC)
RE: 7.21
(I re-logged in, hopefully that will help with the icon situation.)

"Damon recounting where they first kissed, she told him she loved him, she took the cure, how he would get her back, calling her his girl, "My Elena." I just—gosh, I loved it." - I loved this scene too. I particularly like the fact that they let us know that Damon knows where Elena was, that she was calling him from the porch, when she first told him she loved him! Which means that at some point she must have either told him that or he must have asked her. It's always lovely to have such off screen scenes hinted at.

"He does resent that she's the reason he's not with Elena RIGHT. NOW. Because that's real and believable. Still as Damon said—actions speak louder than words." - Exactly. Of course there would be that 1% of resentment about the whole situation. It was all in-character.

"So, yes, Damon is still getting the 'you suck' treatment, but it's lightening up a bit." - I think the highest point of that came in S8. I really adored that scene with Caroline wondering if she could get away with not inviting Damon to her wedding, Bonnie telling her that no, probably not, and the best part of it was that it was all happening while they were running away from Damon who was trying to kill Bonnie! Lol!

"He loves him! I will believe this until Matt actually kills Damon himself" - lol I hope this actually didn't do the trick, because some awesome Damon/Matt stuff followed ;)

“I don't like Zach Roerig's hair right now.” - This! This so hard! LOL

“How Matt and Bonnie look to being thrown together. Uh huh. Who called it? Me! I did! That would be this person!” - I think that's how things might've eventually turned out. It's quite likely.

“Enzo and Bonnie are just kinda… you know, there.” - I actually did like them together, and I think the show did a good job of kind of bombarding us with intensity of their love to make up for the lack of seasons-long build up. It might've not worked at all, but it did as best as it could under the circumstances, I think.

“Again, as always, when Stefan gives someone a "choice" it's about him, not about the other person.” - By now we kind of came full circle from that, and I love it. In a heartbreakingly twisted way, Stefan's final sacrifice was still about what HE wanted. “I wanted for you to have the opportunity to know him.” AHHHH and only now that I typed this I realized one more thing, that among many other things there was also a call back there to Stefan's S1 “I had to know her” line). Just like when Damon's “selfishness” manifested itself in his “ME” answer to Cade giving him a choice between Elena and Stefan. “I choose me.”


“That when you love someone that much you choose them. When it comes to life and death, you don't make that kind of choice.” - Yes, I love that they addressed that.


“And, right now, whoa, Caroline can barely even look at Stefan because it's too hard. It's too hard because she gets why he did what he did rationally, but it still hurts” - I love how this ties so beautifully into Caroline's final “I understand”. That was one of the most heartwrenching moments of the finale.

Well, nevermind. I don't know if there were any not heartwrenching moments there ♥


“But, dude, how much more obvious could they have made it since season 06 began all the way through now that Damon and Bonnie are N-O-T-H-I-N-G but platonic besties?” - On a sort of related note regarding people being delusional... Have you read Kevin Williamson's final interview? And all this time I thought he was the more rational one! Lol But it turns out Julie was (!).

Edited at 2017-03-13 10:00 am (UTC)
Arabian: Damon&Matt02arabian on May 2nd, 2017 01:11 am (UTC)
Re: 7.21
I loved this scene too. I particularly like the fact that they let us know that Damon knows where Elena was, that she was calling him from the porch, when she first told him she loved him! Which means that at some point she must have either told him that or he must have asked her. It's always lovely to have such off screen scenes hinted at.

Yeah, I thought of that too, but it didn't make it into my notes so thus not into the notes. Thanks for bringing it up. :) *sigh* My babies!

I think the highest point of that came in S8. I really adored that scene with Caroline wondering if she could get away with not inviting Damon to her wedding, Bonnie telling her that no, probably not, and the best part of it was that it was all happening while they were running away from Damon who was trying to kill Bonnie! Lol!

I think that was why for the most part I didn't have a problem with most of Caroline and Matt's nasty comments about Damon because (a) Damon has said just as many about and to them, and (b) they said these things despite working with him, trying to save him, not trying to kill him, and considering him a part of their gang.

"He loves him! I will believe this until Matt actually kills Damon himself" - lol I hope this actually didn't do the trick, because some awesome Damon/Matt stuff followed ;)

Uhm, did you not read what I wrote: "... until Matt actually kills Damon himself." Matt did NOT kill Damon himself. He may have stood over Ric while he did it, but nope, nope, Matty could not do it himself, nope, he loves Damon. They are future besties for all (human) time.

“How Matt and Bonnie look to being thrown together. Uh huh. Who called it? Me! I did! That would be this person!” - I think that's how things might've eventually turned out. It's quite likely.

Yeah, Julie Plec all but said she was kinda inserting stuff all the time to lead the other writers that way. Alas, she was clearly overruled.

“Enzo and Bonnie are just kinda… you know, there.” - I actually did like them together, and I think the show did a good job of kind of bombarding us with intensity of their love to make up for the lack of seasons-long build up. It might've not worked at all, but it did as best as it could under the circumstances, I think.

We will agree to disagree as I went into great detail about in a previous comment a few episodes back (episode 7.19).

“That when you love someone that much you choose them. When it comes to life and death, you don't make that kind of choice.” - Yes, I love that they addressed that.

SO HARD!

“But, dude, how much more obvious could they have made it since season 06 began all the way through now that Damon and Bonnie are N-O-T-H-I-N-G but platonic besties?” - On a sort of related note regarding people being delusional... Have you read Kevin Williamson's final interview?

Nah, *he* wasn't being delusional, he was speaking to the hope of the delusional out there since they have been fans for 8 years as well. I get it.

Edited at 2017-05-02 01:11 am (UTC)
Florencia: Damon (Love)florencia7 on May 12th, 2017 03:35 pm (UTC)
Re: 7.21
"they said these things despite working with him, trying to save him, not trying to kill him, and considering him a part of their gang" - Yes, that made it all even kind of fun lol

"Uhm, did you not read what I wrote: "... until Matt actually kills Damon himself." Matt did NOT kill Damon himself." - Er, OK, I didn't know we were being *that* literal haha Agreed then, he didn't ;)

"Nah, *he* wasn't being delusional, he was speaking to the hope of the delusional out there since they have been fans for 8 years as well." - That's really nice and all, but how about speaking to *us*, the DE fans who have been with the show for 8 years as well? Somehow we deserved to hear that the engagement scene was cut because "the only" point of it was to show Elena in scrubs. Guess he didn't feel like being nice to all fans, eh?
Arabian: Damon & Elena28arabian on May 14th, 2017 05:18 pm (UTC)
Re: 7.21
Er, OK, I didn't know we were being *that* literal haha Agreed then, he didn't ;)

When it comes to this show and death/murder, etc. one must be literal.

That's really nice and all, but how about speaking to *us*, the DE fans who have been with the show for 8 years as well? Somehow we deserved to hear that the engagement scene was cut because "the only" point of it was to show Elena in scrubs. Guess he didn't feel like being nice to all fans, eh?

Erm, because we GOT SOME NICE STUFF ON SCREEN! We got the happy ever after on screen. We got Damon and Elena wearing wedding rings and married and happily ever after in life and in peace. We got that. They got bupkus on screen. I don't know about you, but I would much prefer getting what WE got over getting some completely delusional, makes zero-narrative sense and clearly NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED bit o' fluff words from the exec producer who left the show five years ago. We got what we deserved. It was awesome! So we didn't get an engagement scene... we got a reunion, we got engagement rings, and wedding rings, and a happily ever after in life and in the afterlife.

I think he was plenty nice to us D/E fans too when you take it ALL into account. :)
Florencia: Damon (Love)florencia7 on May 28th, 2017 04:12 pm (UTC)
Re: 7.21
"I don't know about you, but I would much prefer getting what WE got over getting some completely delusional, makes zero-narrative sense and clearly NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED bit o' fluff words from the exec producer who left the show five years ago." - OH Absolutely! I'm with you on this one 1000%.

"I think he was plenty nice to us D/E fans too when you take it ALL into account." - haha Yes, that's a good point ;)
Arabian: Damon & Elena28arabian on July 1st, 2017 05:19 pm (UTC)
Re: 7.21
Right? So, let's lay off Kevin Williamson, LOL!