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24 January 2016 @ 02:48 pm
7.09 - 'Cold As Ice' (The Vampire Diaries)  
At long last I've finally written the episode write-up for The Vampire Diaries mid-season finale... just in time for the mid-season premiere! Yay!

I rewatched the mid-season finale before writing this up since it’s been a wee bit of time since the episode aired. And I'm glad I did. Part of the reason that I held off on putting this up is because when it originally aired I was not in a good frame of mind and my attention was split due to a hockey game simultaneously playing. So… I rewatched the episode. I had liked it when I first watched it, but there were issues I had and was still whining in my notes about Nora and Mary Louise. However, with undivided attention and in a good mood, I must say that I really, really enjoyed this episode. It was damn good.

And I'm going to start with Nora and Mary Louise. Of course they still don't have a lick of chemistry, but separating them made them more interesting, more real. Now Mary Louise still hasn't regained that earlier promise that I saw in her, but seeing her as Julian’s special pet and as possibly the worst of the lot who has just kept this darker side of herself all buttoned up all this time is something to ponder. So I remain intrigued. But she's still just a promise of potential. On the other hand, Nora blossomed in this episode. I found her scenes with Bonnie fabulous from the wary beginning to open discussion at the hospital to the final scene in Bonnie’s dorm room. So many great lines and observations in there: Bonnie asking her straight out why she liked Mary Louise, Nora talking about how she made her feel so special, so beautiful and was so kind and wonderful to her. Bonnie pointing out that it was only to Nora she was that way and Nora acknowledging that. And then my favorite bit where Bonnie said she didn't need someone to tell her she was pretty (which is such an awesome sentiment and so very true), and then Nora agreeing with that but saying that it's still something that's good to hear (which is also very true).

It was just such a lovely moment amidst an overall lovely scene amidst a lovely batch of scenes that built a realistic connection over the course of the episode between these two. And then Stefan went and fucked it all up. Oh, Stefan.

Yeah, let's talk about Stefan. This episode basically could have been named 'Damon Salvatore is Always Right.' Because Damon was totes right about Julian throughout the whole episode (and about Stefan and Caroline, and Caroline and the babies—circa 'Three Years From Now…') If Damon says that he and Stefan are outmatched by Julian, they are outmatched. Listen to your brother, Stefan! But no, he just had to go after Julian… after being a jerkface to his brother and just when he'd been so good for the most part. I mean, until those 'fine, I don’t need you/please don't leave me!' insults when Damon left him in Sunbury, I rather appreciated that for the most part Stefan wasn't a jerk about Damon's attitude about Lily. But, then, yeah, little-baby-pissy-bro Stefan came out to play. Siblings, whatcha gonna do?

Well, we know what Stefan did! He decided to think for himself… and fuck everything up. Destroyed Bonnie and Nora’s lovely burgeoning friendship, dumped an icy bucket of water on the flame of the nice of Nora, and, oh, yeah, got his brother sent to his own very personal hell. Oh, right, and then, he took his trip there as well.

Stefan, Stefan, Stefan. Boo, when you gonna realize that big bro is the brains of the operation?

Speaking of their personal hells… I had read some complaints that it was so stupid that they did this storyline with Damon in his personal hell without Nina Dobrev around because, hello, you can’t show Damon's personal hell without Elena! And I thought, 'Hello! Do these people even pay attention when they watch this damn show?!' They clearly explained that the hell is based on horrible things that you have personally done and Damon has made it very clear that nothing that involves Elena Gilbert in his life is hell. N-O-T-H-I-N-G! There is literally no way in any way, shape or form that Damon’s mind could conceive of connecting Elena with hell unless it was a world *without* Elena ever in it. So of course Elena would NOT be his personal hell. She is his light, she is the one thing that would keep it *from* being his personal hell. Duh!

Moving on… as for it being from his time during the Civil War… ooh! I am very intrigued. The fact that we had that very brief bit of conversation between him and the still-mourned Oscar (really, we had to lose *that* Heretic!?) about Damon's soldiering days and Damon's sshing of it was definitely a key. And going back to the few times that his time in the war has been mentioned in the flashbacks it’s always been very clear that Damon and the war did not get along, color me very, very intrigued. And (OMIGOD!) this might open the door to Damon and Alaric talking Civil War down the road which is a long-time fantasy of mine as a Civil War geek myself. (Plus, on a completely shallow note, good lord, Damon looked really beautiful all bewildered and shaken in his Civil War hell. Hey, I said it was shallow.)

I will say that I wasn't terribly surprised when Damon was stabbed what with the explanation about the sword and phoenix stone in the episode. I mean, we knew it was gonna happen (to him or Stefan obviously). Still, that's not to say that I wasn't all sad when it happened. Especially when Stefan (hallelujah! he is learning!) acknowledged right away that it was his fault for being a doofus-head and not listening and he was kneeling at Damon's side looking all stricken. Oh, Stefan.

And then, and then… I *was* surprised when Nora popped up and Stefan was stabbed too! That I was not expecting. One of the brothers? Sure, totes expected. But not both of my Salvatore boys. Damn, show. Haven't they suffered enough?

Apparently not because we know more is coming thanks to 'Three Years From Now.' Stefan and Caroline really are dunzo and so we know rough roads are ahead. I don't even know, guys. Stefan and Valerie. I don't know how to feel about this. I keep going back to the idea that I don't think the network is done with The Vampire Diaries yet (I guess we'll see what happens with ratings on Friday) and if Paul Wesley is leaving but Candice King is not then maybe they aren't going with Stefan/Caroline endgame. I don't know. Ugh! I don't know. I'm trying to keep an open mind right now. It'’s just… arrrggh! With this 'Three Years From Now' thing, we know… we know that three years from now, Stefan is with Valerie and that Caroline is engaged to Alaric and they are raising the twins together. We know this.

And now, today, it's obvious that Stefan *does* still have feelings for Valerie. Obviously, duh, Valerie still has feelings for Stefan, but she's holding them in check, she's not making moves on Stefan, not behaving inappropriately, she's not. Stefan, however, he's doing the puppy-dog eyes at her, he's kept secrets from Caroline, he's allowing himself to have this 'you and me' connection where only *they* understand the need to take out Julian. Stefan is creating this us-dom between them. He's doing the same thing with him and Valerie that he kept trying to do with him and Elena long after they were over. The difference then was that Elena was done with him, and Valerie is not.

And right now, Stefan is acting more like a best friend to Caroline than a boyfriend and while the best friend part is great, the boyfriend part is pretty darn important. So, yeah, I'm not sure where this is all going with those two because they are moving right along with Caroline and Alaric as well.

The right way. My biggest issue has been the ick factor. But they are facing it head-on and that makes it work for me. I appreciated that they had the other people who would totally be doing so in a small town talking about Alaric being a teacher, Caroline being a student. That acknowledgement is there. I see this as meaning that however this 'Three Years From Now' thing with Caroline and Alaric plays out it's going to happen with the awareness of that factor in play. It's going to be dealt with; it's already being acknowledged. Good. Whether Alaric and Caroline will work as an actual couple? Well, that's still up in the air but at least they are not ignoring elephants in the room and all of the pieces on the chessboard are being put into place, so to speak.

OK, randoms …

- "You were a terrible mother when you were alive. You were a terrible mother when you were dead." Yeah, that eulogy pretty much nailed it.

- Best Damon line of the episode: "Plan B, booze-soaked flammable costumes." LOL! God, I love him so.

- I love that they're running with the crazy of the pregnant vampire and taking the whole pregnancy hormones and "vamping" it up (hah, see what I did there?) and pregnancy cravings. I love when the show does stuff like that. They know that it's crazy and ridiculous and they're just going with it. Awesome! Blood and marshmallow fluff, hee!

- Oh, Bonnie. I loved seeing Bonnie being such, yes, Nora, a kind person. Love her!

- Caroline so prepared for her Lamaze class was so perfectly Caroline, I loved it. And, of course, Alaric read up on everything too. Of course, he did. He can be a bit overzealous himself too.

- Caroline at her mom's grave (Liz! I miss you!) was lovely and sad, and was a good tie-in to her and Stefan talking at the end there. (Psst! And very, very best friend-ish. *Sigh*)

- There was a bit of irony there in Stefan's "That stone is punishment for every bad thing you've ever done. This is Damon. I don't even want to know what he's going through." Oh, Stefan, you may play the saint, but we all know you've done way worse than your brother. Way worse. Yikes!

- I missed Matt. :( Please let the second half of the season give him a bigger storyline. Pretty please!

- Wah! The first episode of the season with no Elena or Damon/Elena mentions. :Sniff sniff: Still, only took them nine episodes. I'm sure more are coming.

So as I said at the top of the episode, I'm glad I rewatched this in a better frame of mind because I thought this was a great episode. It reminded me of how much I love this show. Strong characters, strong writing, directing and such great use of history and community. I can't wait to see what is to come.
 
 
 
tj2013tj2013 on January 24th, 2016 03:27 pm (UTC)
Hey there, thanks for your fabulous write-up. Just in time to tune in and get back into the TVD-flow.

Did you also think that Nora was about to kiss Bonnie? Just for a tiny moment, and then the atmosphere changed. But I think it was there.
Kat Graham is such a great actress!

I wonder what Stefan’s personal hell will be like? Will we see him and Klaus? Or Stefan during his Ripper days?

The scene at the grave reminded me (of course, hah!) of Damon’s final speech in 4x02. He told Alaric that they all were children. Well, now these children will have to work together to get him and Stefan out. Teamwork, pretty please? With Matt?

And how come all these friends of Julian didn’t say a word? Were they mute like Beau?
I think Julian is a convincing villain. Although I am still not sure I believe he loved Lily that much. For me it feels more like gratefulness that she had rescued him. But oh well, Lily is gone anyway.

I admit when they put both brothers into the stone, I feared that the showrunners were paving the way for the possibility of Damon/Stefan being played by other actors (in case Ian and Paul were quitting after this season, you could send their souls back into other bodies). But I hope that's not the case...

And the music - of course. Nice Christmas carol playing over Damon's hell.

I am very much looking forward to next friday. Thanks for keeping up with the show!
Arabian: Damon12arabian on January 24th, 2016 06:58 pm (UTC)
Hey there, thanks for your fabulous write-up. Just in time to tune in and get back into the TVD-flow.

Yeah, if I haven't written it up shortly after the episode, I figure I might as well write it closer to the return as a reminder of what happened, LOL!

Did you also think that Nora was about to kiss Bonnie? Just for a tiny moment, and then the atmosphere changed. But I think it was there.

Yeah, the scene was a bit charged. Kat Graham and Scarlet Byrne definitely have more chemistry than do Bryne and Teressa Liane.

I wonder what Stefan’s personal hell will be like? Will we see him and Klaus? Or Stefan during his Ripper days?

I can't imagine will see Klaus since Joseph Morgan is on The Originals and although I know there's crossovers coming up it's present-day stuff. I imagine it's gotta be Ripper-related stuff though.

The scene at the grave reminded me (of course, hah!) of Damon’s final speech in 4x02.

You mean Caroline with her mom? I thought of that scene then. Or did you mean at Lily's grave? I didn't think of 4.02 then.

Well, now these children will have to work together to get him and Stefan out. Teamwork, pretty please? With Matt?

Yes, please!

And how come all these friends of Julian didn’t say a word? Were they mute like Beau?

Hmmm... I didn't even notice that, but good point!

I think Julian is a convincing villain.

Me too. Really good actor.

Although I am still not sure I believe he loved Lily that much. For me it feels more like gratefulness that she had rescued him.

I do think that he loved her, but gratitude is paired with it... your comment there makes me think of how Tyler loved Caroline, the love mixed in with the gratitude of what she did for him. But with Julian and Lily it's amped up by a thousand.

But oh well, Lily is gone anyway.

Hallelujah!

I admit when they put both brothers into the stone, I feared that the showrunners were paving the way for the possibility of Damon/Stefan being played by other actors (in case Ian and Paul were quitting after this season, you could send their souls back into other bodies). But I hope that's not the case...

Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that, but I don't think they'll go there just because Julie has been SO adamant about NO ONE else ever being able to be Damon. And, frankly, I think she and everyone else involved with the show knows that no one else would ever be accepted as Damon other than Ian Somerhalder.

And the music - of course. Nice Christmas carol playing over Damon's hell.

The music director on this show is so good.

I am very much looking forward to next friday. Thanks for keeping up with the show!

Thank you for reading/commenting still. And {{sobs}} I'm still bummed about Friday!
tj2013tj2013 on January 27th, 2016 07:15 am (UTC)
"You mean Caroline with her mom? I thought of that scene then. Or did you mean at Lily's grave? I didn't think of 4.02 then."

Yes, that's what I meant.

"Julie has been SO adamant about NO ONE else ever being able to be Damon."
I suppose you're right. Maybe I just thought about it because of all this body swapping over at The Originals, LOL.

" And I'm still bummed about Friday!"
We'll have to see how that works out. Let's hope for the best. But frankly I don't expect more than an 8th season. You?
Arabian: Damon14arabian on February 28th, 2016 03:44 pm (UTC)
"Yo" Julie has been SO adamant about NO ONE else ever being able to be Damon."
I suppose you're right. Maybe I just thought about it because of all this body swapping over at The Originals, LOL.


Yeah, but that's all witchy-spirit related.

" And I'm still bummed about Friday!"

We'll have to see how that works out. Let's hope for the best. But frankly I don't expect more than an 8th season. You?


I don't either, but you never know. Something crazy could happen that could either go wild with the ratings, or they could just remain steady enough to keep it going.
Mattghidorah15 on January 24th, 2016 09:15 pm (UTC)
I was wondering about the delay. Glad nothing's wrong.

As for the episode, I don't have much to add, except that I'm not giving up on Stefan and Caroline. And frankly, I'm wondering if even the CW can justify making it go past either this season or some sort of shortened eighth season. It's not impossible they'll go past that, just not likely in my opinion.

*sigh* Any chance Nora can come to her senses and make amends with Bonnie before the end comes either way, writers? She's so much better without Mary Louise. At least Valerie has long since turned her back on Julian.

Oh, and Stefan? Kindly take your selfish cruelty and shove it back up your butt from whence it came, and listen to Damon from now on. Big brother knows best. :P
Arabian: Damon&Stefan01arabian on January 25th, 2016 12:08 am (UTC)
You should know my pattern by now, LOL! Hiatuses come and my write-ups generally don't come until closer to the new episode.

Yeah, Nora was so much more real and enjoyable to watch with Bonnie than she ever was with Mary Louise, and Mary Louise is a much more entertaining character as Julian's minion. So I second your wish.

I didn't Stefan's actions as a result of selfish cruelty after all Julian *did* literally murder his child and keep his first love from him, leaving him to believe that he'd been abandoned... and this would have happened with him being alone and without Damon--feeling abandoned by him at that time period. So his vengeful need to take down Julian is understandable *and* if they had just killed Julian right away when it wasn't expected they wouldn't be where they are now. Instead of playing the cat-and-mouse game as Damon wanted so he could cruelly savor his revenge, Stefan wouldn't have lost both his mother (who he was mourning now--and remember it was Damon who brought her back into Stefan's life) and the opportunity the early, easier to opportunity to avenge his unborn child's murder.

Still, yes, he should have listened to Damon. But still, Damon should have listened to Stefan and taken out Julian way back when Stefan first wanted to.... so, yeah.

What can I say, I love both my Salvatore bros and see both sides. :shrugs:
Mattghidorah15 on January 25th, 2016 12:42 am (UTC)
I was referring to Stefan's nastiness towards Damon. I do try to see both sides, but he's rubbed me the wrong way more than once.
Arabian: Stefan05arabian on January 25th, 2016 11:31 am (UTC)
But he was only nasty towards Damon at the end there. Understand that they'd been looking for Julian for two weeks now and Damon had been particularly difficult, stopping at bars non-stop, making awful jibes at Lily non-stop and Stefan had been understanding about it as we saw through most of the episode. It was only at the very end when Stefan sent him away was Stefan mean to him, prior to that Stefan had been pretty understanding of Damon basically being a douche about the whole thing, including Stefan being heartbroken about Lily's death.
Mattghidorah15 on January 25th, 2016 08:43 pm (UTC)
Hm. I suppose I'm biased.
Arabian: Stefan03arabian on February 28th, 2016 05:09 pm (UTC)
Admitting the problem is the first step. ;)
Bogwitchbogwitch on January 24th, 2016 10:51 pm (UTC)
Yay!

I have actually forgotten most of what happened in this ep, so I will ignore that and will plough on with a thought I had a while back (that I don’t think I mentioned before…). Perhaps the flash-forwards are not necessarily a future set in stone, but a potential one based on a pivotal decision yet to be made (by Stefan presumably)? That would explain some of the crackiness of some of the future scenes. I am not as sure of this theory as I once was, as all of the future has roots in the past we are seeing now, but say Stefan/Caroline were to be endgame, this would be one way they could achieve still that. I don’t know, it’s probably totally wrong, but it’s the only way I could think of to get the show back on the track we expected.
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on January 25th, 2016 12:02 am (UTC)
I had that thought myself actually, but we've seen no sign, no hint that such is the case. I don't know maybe in the next couple of weekends or so I might do a rewatch of the entire season so far and see if I can find any kind of clue for that. Hmmm.... I mean, if it's coming, there will be something there. This show is very good with stuff like that.
Bogwitchbogwitch on January 25th, 2016 12:32 am (UTC)
Yes, this is why I have had my doubts. Also, Damon's part in it wouldn't quite fit.
Arabian: Doylearabian on January 25th, 2016 11:31 am (UTC)
Yeah, which is why I brushed that thought away pretty quickly alas.
jairem08jairem08 on February 4th, 2016 06:14 pm (UTC)
Just to say thank you for you continuous post. I have been quite busy and so barely manage to rest and read happy to see your posts as always.

Still haven't watched... not that I don't want to but my life is crazy and I'm stinking it might really be interesting to watch all at once.

I'm glad all is going well so far. I'm still hoping for DE reunion still this season. I do hope it happens.
Arabian: Damon & Elena49arabian on February 28th, 2016 03:46 pm (UTC)
Just to say thank you for you continuous post. I have been quite busy and so barely manage to rest and read happy to see your posts as always.

You're welcome. :)

Still haven't watched... not that I don't want to but my life is crazy and I'm stinking it might really be interesting to watch all at once.

I will be curious to see what you think when you do watch it.

I'm glad all is going well so far.

I'm LOVING this season.

I'm still hoping for DE reunion still this season. I do hope it happens.

I have ZERO doubt that the reunion is coming. ZERO. It will be at the end of the season, but it is coming.
(Anonymous) on February 20th, 2017 11:06 am (UTC)
Your write-ups are the best ♥
”And then my favorite bit where Bonnie said she didn't need someone to tell her she was pretty (which is such an awesome sentiment and so very true), and then Nora agreeing with that but saying that it's still something that's good to hear (which is also very true).” - Yes, that entire scene was really good. I liked it too.

”and, oh, yeah, got his brother sent to his own very personal hell. Oh, right, and then, he took his trip there as well.” - Don't you just love (dripping with sarcasm here) how this never gets mentioned again? EVER. That Damon got sent to that personal hell while trying to prevent Stefan from going there. He quite literally took his place. Yet, we're going to hear multiple times how Stefan later went to hell because of Damon (???) and how Damon selfishly (!) didn't want to overtake the mark and was beyond horrible for hesitating for a few seconds before deciding that he won't ever see Elena again. And no one ever brings it up how selfish it was of Stefan to request (yes, because it actually started feeling that way at some point) for Damon to take the mark even though he KNEW it meant that Damon and Elena could never have a life together. But I'm jumping ahead again. Sorry ;)

”They clearly explained that the hell is based on horrible things that you have personally done and Damon has made it very clear that nothing that involves Elena Gilbert in his life is hell. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!” - Yes yes yes to all that! I completely agree about the Elena. But I need help understanding something else. Like you very correctly pointed out, they CLEARLY explained that the hell is based on horrible things that the person PERSONALLY DONE. Now. Unless I'm hearing impaired (I don't think so) or just dumb (possible but I'd argue against it), we later hear that when Stefan went to his personal hell he spent his time there... DROWNING IN THE SAFE. I mean, how is being trapped in that safe by Silas the worst thing that STEFAN *DID*??? Or is this some ridiculous, convoluted reference to Stefan letting Elena drown?? Which is hardly and barely and just simply NOT the WORST thing that Stefan ever did. Come on show. I'm just beyond confused about this ever since and I'd REALLY appreciate if you could enlighten me on the subject. Am I missing something here???

”specially when Stefan (hallelujah! he is learning!) acknowledged right away that it was his fault” - Yeah, well, that didn't last for too long, did it.

”Caroline at her mom's grave (Liz! I miss you!) was lovely and sad” - Yes, it was a very sad but also beautiful scene.

”Oh, Stefan, you may play the saint, but we all know you've done way worse than your brother. Way worse.” - I know, right? *sigh*
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on February 24th, 2017 04:55 pm (UTC)
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That Damon got sent to that personal hell while trying to prevent Stefan from going there. He quite literally took his place.

No, not really. If Damon had taken his place literally it would have been like when Stefan literally put himself in front of Damon to take the mark. In this case, Julian was just a mourning dick who if he couldn't get one brother, well, he'd nab the other. Yes, it was on Stefan for pushing Julian... but Stefan could NOT have known the consequences. Plus, Julian really did deserve it. Stefan had a legitimately righteous cause (and, if he'd had it his way, Julian would have been dead LONG before this happened, but, noooo, Damon wanted to drag it out to punish Lily before killing Julian). Also, Stefan immediately felt complete devastation when he saw Damon. If the situation was reversed and characters kept harping on Damon about what happened, I'd be pissed because that's blaming the wrong person. Julian is 100% to blame in this situation, not Stefan.

(Don't you hate when I'm on all cool and chill about Stefan and defend him? Sorry, there will be more of this.)

Yet, we're going to hear multiple times how Stefan later went to hell because of Damon

If you're talking about getting the mark, well, that is true. Damon put them in the situation (I break it ALL down in an upcoming write-up) and Stefan truly, selflessly took the mark for his brother.

and how Damon selfishly (!) didn't want to overtake the mark and was beyond horrible for hesitating for a few seconds before deciding that he won't ever see Elena again.

Well, it wasn't a few seconds. Damon was all gung-ho to help his baby bro UNTIL Rayna pointed out that he wouldn't see Elena. Then Damon was all like, 'Oh, right? Yea, nope, I'm not doing this. I'll figure something else out.' He didn't hesitate, he flat-out was not going to do it. Never mind that Stefan had the mark because of Damon (yes, others made choices that helped the situation, but Damon really was the main antagonist here--really, I break it all down in 7.15 or 7.16), was on the run for his life for 3 years while Damon lay sleeping next to his true love. Damon was being INCREDIBLY selfish. (I don't blame him, but he was.) He tried really, really hard to come through at the very last second, but the fact that it wasn't a few seconds? Kinda key to what happened to Stefan.

And no one ever brings it up how selfish it was of Stefan to request (yes, because it actually started feeling that way at some point) for Damon to take the mark even though he KNEW it meant that Damon and Elena could never have a life together.

But did Stefan know that? If DAMON didn't even realize it before Rayna pointed it out to him, do you think that Stefan knew? I don't. Plus, Stefan didn't request... DAMON offered. Stefan actually REFUSED when Rayna first mentioned it to him, but then Damon told him it was his idea. Damon convinced him to do it, and at that point, Stefan was so tired and scared of running and he finally had his big brother back who was going to take care of him. Of course, once he was convinced that it was what Damon wanted to do he was all for it. So, Damon offered to take the mark, set everything in motion so he could, and then boom! randomly (because Stefan didn't know about him not seeing Elena again) decided, 'Nope, changed my mind, not gonna do it. Suffer, baby bro of mine, I'm cool.' I'm just not seeing a selfish Stefan here, sorry.

But I'm jumping ahead again. Sorry ;)

Yeah, so did I in my response. Again, major, major break-down of all of this (I think it's 7.16) coming soon.

Edited at 2017-02-24 05:00 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Stefan06arabian on February 24th, 2017 04:55 pm (UTC)
RE: Your write-ups are the best ♥
Yes yes yes to all that! I completely agree about the Elena. But I need help understanding something else. Like you very correctly pointed out, they CLEARLY explained that the hell is based on horrible things that the person PERSONALLY DONE. Now. Unless I'm hearing impaired (I don't think so) or just dumb (possible but I'd argue against it), we later hear that when Stefan went to his personal hell he spent his time there... DROWNING IN THE SAFE. I mean, how is being trapped in that safe by Silas the worst thing that STEFAN *DID*??? Or is this some ridiculous, convoluted reference to Stefan letting Elena drown?? Which is hardly and barely and just simply NOT the WORST thing that Stefan ever did. Come on show. I'm just beyond confused about this ever since and I'd REALLY appreciate if you could enlighten me on the subject. Am I missing something here???

The hellstone is about facing your guilt and making you relive it over and over again until you face it, right? Because that's something that most people just don't want to deal with, right? Damon pushes his guilt down, sidesteps it, Elena has a little angst, and then pushes through. Bonnie powers through, Caroline hyper-actively distracts herself, etc. Stefan? Stefan Salvatore? He freaking WALLOWS in his guilt. He looks at every little thing he has done that he thinks is possibly bad and goes over it and over it and OVER it a gazillion times. So essentially the hellstone couldn't get Stefan that way. It would only be doing to him what he does to himself on a minutely basis. So why the safe? Because in that safe, he was thinking of two things: Damon--being the bad voice in his head, Elena--in love forever with him. And in his secret heart (so one of the very rare things he hasn't castigated himself about) he knew that he was betraying the both of them for thinking that way when it wasn't the truth he knew. And he fooled himself into thinking that it was about having to let go of Damon (in terms of Damon causing him pain, hah!), but it was about letting go of Damon so that Damon (as a human) could be happy with Elena, And because the hellstone goes with what the person is legitimately feeling, it would believe that Stefan was right because Stefan totes believed it (which is why he got out so quickly. Cuz, you know once Stefan was forced to face that guilt, dude, he accepted and wallowed right away).

Edited at 2017-02-24 05:03 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous) on March 5th, 2017 10:57 am (UTC)
RE: Your write-ups are the best ♥
"So essentially the hellstone couldn't get Stefan that way. It would only be doing to him what he does to himself on a minutely basis." - I think I *finally* got it. Thank you! :)

PS. My comments today are going to be all over the place, I'm sorry about that. I was at work yesterday, I've been doing my taxes all morning, AND I'm so stressed out about the finale lol On the bright side, I'm in a much, much, much better place about Stefan (and everything else for that matter haha) by now, so there's that.