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09 October 2015 @ 02:55 am
7.01 - 'Day One Of Twenty-Two Thousand, Give Or Take' (The Vampire Diaries)  
Another Thursday, another new episode of the Vampire Diaries. Yay! Just a note, as always, I'm doing the NO SPOILERS thing, so please do not spoil me on ANYTHING! Thank you muchly. :)

So it was sadness to not see Elena and know that she's technically not around, however, I thought the show did a fabulous job of keeping her presence alive. And that is exactly what I wanted and expected. So double yay!!

Alright, firstly, let's get the pink elephant out of the way. I actually really liked what they did with Damon and Bonnie because I felt like the show played with the expectations of, ooh, Damon and Bonnie as a couple (which, yeah, their shippers will run away with regardless). However, the show turned those expectations on their head and made it clear in both instances that it was *NOT* a romantic, shippy thing.

OK, hold on a second. Let me state on the outset that I do think that Ian Somerhalder and Kat Graham have chemistry, but to be fair, I think that Ian Somerhalder has chemistry with almost every one he interacts with onscreen. I thought he had chemistry with Marguerite McIntrye (Liz Forbes), Arielle Kebbel (Lexi)—{shudder} as much as it pains me to admit it, Mia Kirshner (Isobel), Daniel Gillies (Elijah), Cassidy Freeman (Sage), etc. So, regardless of intent, there is chemistry there, and I think that the producers/writers are aware of that. Plus, they're also aware of the shippers and the media's expectation that since Elena (Nina Dobrev) is gone, well, duh, of course The Vampire Diaries is probably gonna go the Damon/Bonnie route.

Not so fast!

Here's how I saw the two main scenes between them that, as I said above, turned that notion on its head in a brilliant way. First, we had the scene where Damon saved her. There was the close-up of the two against the car, them looking at each other which completely played like a stereotypical "romantic" moment. And I admit that I did have a twinge and I thought... 'hmmm... show, why you going there? I am confuzzled.'

And then..... aha! The rest of the scene played out and I had to smile. I rewound and watched the scene and just had to tip my hat to the skill of Caroline Dries. That moment against the car wasn't about some sudden, 'oh, I felt a tingling,' or 'ooh, there's this sudden *chemistry* between us!' And, come on, let's get real! That's almost *always* what those moments mean. Not this time. Nope. That moment was about Damon saving Bonnie... three seconds *AFTER* he should have. Damon *ALMOST* letting Bonnie die because he wants... ding, ding, ding... Elena back so desperately. Because he loves Elena so much. Because he misses Elena so much. Because he saw the chance to get Elena back by letting Bonnie die. In other words, the show used a stereotypical "romantic" moment between Damon and another female in order to re-establish just how much Damon loves and misses the love of his life (Elena).

And then... in the second scene where Damon and Bonnie talked about him almost letting her die again, Dries further used that stereotypical moment to drive home that point about Damon missing and loving Elena so much. And THEN drove a new point home... he didn't let her die because Bonnie is his BEST FRIEND. Key word: Friend. And taking that into account after he just left Ric wherever after not realizing for the last three weeks that Ric was playing him was very much a show as opposed to a tell on The Vampire Diaries part.

Alaric is no longer Damon's best friend. (Whose fault is that? Psst… Ric's.) It's Bonnie. What I mean by "show and tell" is the fact that Damon ostensibly took Ric out on the European world wind drinking tour to help him drown his sorrows over losing Jo, but really it clearly wasn't about helping Alaric. It was about Damon dealing with his sorrow over not being with Elena for the next 60 years or so. If it had been about helping Ric, he and his supposed best friend would have been sharing their woes together. They would have been grieving together, but they weren't. Ric remained as distant and as closed off from Damon as he'd been pretty much since Damon came back from 1994. The two are "best friends" in name only. That is what the episode showed us.

And the episode showed us other things as well. By having Bonnie tell Damon that he's one of her key reminders of Elena. By having Damon call Bonnie his "best friend." By having a stereotypical "romantic" moment used to remind viewers how much Damon loves and misses Elena. All of that? Was done to show us that Damon and Bonnie are best friends. And Elena is the love of his life. So, yeah, I really liked how they played the Bonnie and Damon scenes. Especially seeing the two deciding to work together as a team because that‘s something that I've always wanted to see since I've always felt that together they could get stuff done.

Plus, that cute little smile he gave at the end after ripping Malcolm's heart out was too adorbs! Hee!

     

Ah, that adorable smile was just one of the things I loved about Damon. But what else is new, right? I also really liked what we saw with that final scene because of the placement because it tied into something I was saying to others after the finale.

I wasn't bothered by Damon carrying Bonnie in his arms after he saved her life because I didn't see it as a romantic gesture, but rather as setting Damon up as “A Hero.” And I believed that it rolled Matt into that scenario as well. I feel that we got a continuation of that in this episode. I said then:

I know that many saw Damon rescuing of her as some big, typical romantic moment, but that's because so many people tend to watch the show with shipper goggles on, that's not how I saw it. The writers are not shippers; they don't write the show with shipper goggles (for the most part--that D/E dance--so done FOR the shippers, but considering Nina Dobrev was leaving, that was intentional). We see a guy carrying the "damsel-in-distress" for two reasons:

1. For the sweeping romantic moment.
2. To show that said guy is A Hero.

The purpose of that scene was for scenario #2. Most were looking at the Damon rescue of Bonnie in a vacuum, not at the whole narrative. There was a reason we had the earlier scene with Matt and Bonnie where he told her to leave town because Damon would choose Elena over everyone and would kill Bonnie. That was the first two players in showing that Damon is "A Hero scenario." Then we come to this scene where Damon saves the damsel-in-distress. And it featured the second set of players in "A Hero scenario" set-up. It was important to note how the scene was shot. Once Damon picked Bonnie up, he didn't look down at her, there was no tenderness. Instead he was looking straight ahead, intensely focused, absolutely in HERO mode.

Also, there was no full-shot of him carrying her so you didn't get the whole swooning, romantic effect. The whole point of the scene was Damon saving the day and his focus of doing so, of making that tough choice. And here's where we get to that final scene with Matt driving down the street keeping watching below over Mystic Falls, and Damon above keeping watch over Mystic Falls. It's the final two players in "A Hero scenario."

Matt appears now to be working to protect the town in tandem with the guy in the beginning he thought would choose Elena over everyone else. That middle scene with Bonnie was not about "hero saves the girl;" it was about "despite appearances, this is A hero."

Scene 1 - Matt/Bonnie
Scene 2 - Bonnie/Damon
Scene 3 - Damon/Matt

It all ties together. And that, I believe, is setting us up for Damon and his journey--"despite appearances, this is A hero"--next season. There's a reason that was the final scene of the episode and it's also WHY they included that bit of dialogue in there with Damon and Elena about her knowing that he would make the right choice.
And now we have a splendid parallel in this episode with Stefan standing in for Elena. He tells Damon that he made the choice to make the deal to save all of their friends so that when Elena wakes up, she won't be upset at the choices made. He's doing this for Damon. Prior to that scene we had Bonnie talking to Matt where he essentially blamed her (even if he denied it, he so did) for letting the Heretics loose into their world. Then we get to the scene from the finale with Matt patrolling the streets below, and Damon watching from above, cut to Damon and Bonnie where they decide to they are going to fight.

They are going to take their town back, which to them, is the right choice. It's the right thing to do. The passive decision that Stefan and Matt have made is not something that Damon or Bonnie… or Elena would ever feel comfortable or right doing. When Stefan invoked Elena's name, he wasn't sending the message he no doubt intended. (But then Stefan really never knew the take-action, non-grieving Elena, did he?) Of all the characters Damon, Elena and Bonnie are the most alike, and Stefan, Caroline and Matt are the most alike in temperament… in how they decide to do things, get things done.

Damon and Bonnie are doing the right thing that Elena would have done. They're fighting because this passive giving in that Stefan, Caroline and Matt have signed on for…. that's just death and destruction waiting to happen. So the parallel of Elena telling Damon that she knew he'd make the right choice was there in Stefan invoking her name, and in the three players of the “Hero” scenario: Damon, Bonnie and Matt.

Alas, it looks like Matt is going to continue to be on the opposite side of Damon. The difference this time, though, is that Bonnie will be leaning more towards Team!Damon rather than Team!Matt than she was before. Which leads me to wonder if that little hint of something-something way back in season 03 between Bonnie and Matt is maybe, possibly going to come into fruition with some sparks and opposites attract playing it up now?

I could maybe be down for that.

And, of course, the couple that I'm already totally down for? Oh, yeah, baby, Stefan and Caroline. As awkward as that first Stefan and Caroline scene was, I really loved it (not just because it was adorably awkward), but because of what it really said about their relationship and the foundation there. Theirs really is a relationship based on friendship. They have such a solid foundation laid there, so even when things are awkward, when they aren't on the same page in this new phase of their relationship, they can talk to each other, they can tell each other *because* the history of their relationship is so rooted in honesty and friendship. There isn't antagonism and fighting in their past. And, also, yes, because of the type of person Caroline is, and the type of person that Stefan is and how they mesh so well as personalities together. They are just so suited for one another.

 

And the writing of the pair overall just continues to show how well the the show gets that about these two from the friendship to the romance to all of the little moments in between, including those little "tingly" moments we shippers just adore. Like the Heretic Destruction Plan' discussion bit where Caroline asked Stefan where there was any part of the plan where Stefan wasn't worried about her and he was all "probably not" and they gave each other cute smiles and then they were all looking at each other and they so wanted to kiss, but they didn't and it was just.... oh, my babies!!!!

 

YOU BELONG TOGETHER! KISS ALREADY!! (But they did later, so yay!)

And it continues to warm my heart so very much to see Stefan so insistant in his pursuance of Caroline in a way that he was never about Elena (or Katherine... or Rebekah). Nope, just Caroline. And, that final scene was just so lovely. And showed that friendship coming into play again. After the "weirdness" of earlier, they actually *did* stick to the "plan" and yet when it came down to it, when danger came a'calling again, and when the pressure was off for a bit, Caroline was able to see clearly that Stefan made her happy. Because, yeah, sometimes, time does heal some wounds. So... whee!! Sweet, sexy kisses!

  
 

And since Stefan and Caroline are possibly done after this season (what with Paul Wesley and Candice Accola King possibly exiting the show, ::sniff sniff::), I love how TVD is playing any drawn-out games with them and so we got Caroline's "happy" speech at the end and the kissy-face times. Whee!!! Stefan and Caroline continue to give me ♥ eyes!

OK, just Randoms now ….

- Loved, loved Caroline's pink dress at the deputy graduating class.

- At first when Matt was the only deputy left alive of his graduating class, there was a bit rolling of my eyes there, but then when thinking about it, I was like: "No, it makes sense." Think about it, unlike the others, he *would* know how to handle himself in this type of situation and keep himself alive and safe better than any of the others. So, yay, my Matty lives again! Thank goodness!

- Not much with Stefan and Damon in this episode, but I did like Stefan going to Damon in the beginning and end of the episode (three years from now) and I'm definitely intrigued about what's going on. Although, I will admit I was a tad peeved at how Stefan was (a) keeping things from Damon, and (b) at how he through out the whole "doing this for you" bit at him. It just sounded a bit too much lecture-y for my taste, but ah well, Stefan, old habits die hard, huh? Still love you, boo.

- I was not a huge fan of Damon's hair, I must admit. It wasn't season 02, 03 levels of horrid, but no where near the glory of season 05 or 06, damnit! Grr.

- Well, at least Caroline said she didn't hate Damon. *Sigh* I continue to hope that we'll see some meaningful interaction/discussion/development between these two. We'll see.

- Oh, Enzo! You picked the wrong side. (But you look really cute!)

- So does Bonnie, love Kat Graham's hair. (Even if the sassy do of season 05/06 is still my fave.)

- OK, am I the only crazy person who kinda wonders if it's Caroline who is possibly the one coming after Stefan and Damon at the end there? I dunno. The thought just crossed my mind. The fact that they weren't saying a name, just saying "she" made me wonder. That's three years in the future after all. Things that make you go hmmmm…..

- This was the best use of the show's title EVA! The Vampire Diaries indeed. Loved it.

- Yeah, so, right, we're just not gonna hear about Elena at all. Yeah, Damon/Elena they're just over and done with. NOT! Except for Matt, every single main character talked about/to (via diary entries) Elena throughout the show, and it was clear how deep Damon's love for Elena remained not only three weeks from now, but also three years from now. Uh huh.

- Lots of Liz Forbes shout-outs too. Cool beans!

- Of the Heretics, I do find Nora, Mary Louise, Beau and the grumpy one--the diarist, Valerie, interesting. So, cool. I look forward to seeing more of them. I think Valerie is my “favorite” so far.

- *sigh* The only thing I did NOT love about the premiere? Gah! Pod!Alaric is still Pod!Alaric as he is still all about stupid Jo. Ugh, ugh, ugh. No, show. No. Bad, show, bad, bad, bad. I'm so not here for this. I swear if they bring her back…. I will write many venting rants about it filled with many “ughs!”

- I love Damon; that is all. But I'm sad that my favorite line from the preview: "How long do we have before this evil engulfs the world? I'm just trying to plan my week,” was cut. Well, maybe it will be in next week's episode. Hope springs eternal.

- Question? What happened to make Damon decide to desiccate three years down the road until Elena woke up? Even more of a reason to hmmm…..

Well, so much for shorter posts, LOL! I don't expect much in the way of responses, but I still love this show. And as I expected (YAY!) Elena is still very much present and the heart of Damon /Elena still beats strong. Really good episode. Can't wait until next week! Wheee!!! My show is back!
 
 
 
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on October 9th, 2015 08:58 am (UTC)
I had a really crap livestream that keep stopping so I missed big chunks, but I was surprised that I actually didn’t miss Elena that much. Obviously, I would prefer that she was still around but they did a great job of making her absence not the great sucking hole it could have been. Yay!

My three main thoughts during the episode were these:

Ooh it’s that Foals track. It’s about time there some music I like.

and

Bonnie, I know from experience that hiring a bike is not what normal tourists do in Amsterdam (even if it should be) :P

and

How many deputies does this small town need…? Oh wait. (and that was before they were all killed - oh why won't Matt bloody DIE and stop teasing me?!!!!).
Arabian: Damon07arabian on October 11th, 2015 05:37 am (UTC)
I had a really crap livestream that keep stopping so I missed big chunks

Aww, that sucks. I hope you're able to get a better version to watch later.

I was surprised that I actually didn’t miss Elena that much. Obviously, I would prefer that she was still around but they did a great job of making her absence not the great sucking hole it could have been. Yay!

I felt a bittersweet ache missing Elena, but they did a great job keeping her presence alive, yes.

My three main thoughts during the episode were these:

Ooh it’s that Foals track. It’s about time there some music I like.


I'm pretty OK with the music. I think they tend to go with less mainstream music generally.

Bonnie, I know from experience that hiring a bike is not what normal tourists do in Amsterdam (even if it should be) :P

LOL! Before she said the bike ride part, I thought she was gonna say something about getting some weed, so I can't say I didn't have the same thought when she said that about bikes. Uh huh.

>o?oh why won't Matt bloody DIE and stop teasing me?!!!!).</i>

Sigh, you and your Matt-issues. You know I love my Matty so!
Mattghidorah15 on October 9th, 2015 08:28 pm (UTC)
God, I miss Elena. It does help that the show is being nothing but respectful and loving toward her, that Damon is NOT keen on dating anyone else until she wakes up, and that, as you said, he and Bonnie are doing what she would do - fighting back. The Heretics need to go, and they'll be the ones to do it. Too bad that taking out Mama's Boy Malcolm (What is it with my shows and having bad guys named Malcolm, anyway?) first will make things harder for the time being.

As for Alaric...yeah, I'm not happy with him, either. I do hope that he ultimately pulls his head out of his butt and gets over Jo, BEFORE Damon rides off into the sunset with Elena. This is clearly not healthy of him. (To be honest, when that fake psychic delivered that cheesy spiel about Jo's love for him only for Alaric to reveal that the ring was a fake, I thought it might have been an implicit undermining of that "epic love". Am I just seeing things?)

I liked that we got to see the flash-forward from the end of last season in its proper context (though I doubt anyone was terribly surprised about said context - like I said, the Heretics are nothing but trouble), and the bookending flash-forwards have me intrigued. Looks like the Salvatore Brothers just can't catch a break - someone's ALWAYS trying to kill them!

*sigh* Enzo, stop letting Lily use you. I don't think he and Caroline will ever have any sort of fling now, especially with her deciding to stop being afraid of her love for Stefan, to just let herself be happy with him. (Now I'm picturing Elena's smile at seeing the two of them together. Dang it.)

Sooo yeah...we're heading into quite the battle for Mystic Falls. Better buckle up.

Oh, one more thing:

This was the best use of the show's title EVA! The Vampire Diaries indeed. Loved it.

Heheh...yeah, that was cute. Now, I wonder if Elena's coffin will get any cameos?
Arabian: Damon & Elena27arabian on October 11th, 2015 05:43 am (UTC)
God, I miss Elena. It does help that the show is being nothing but respectful and loving toward her, that Damon is NOT keen on dating anyone else until she wakes up, and that, as you said, he and Bonnie are doing what she would do - fighting back.

Exactly. As I said to bogwitch, I felt a bittersweet ache about Elena, but the loving respect shown to keep her presence alive really helped.

The Heretics need to go, and they'll be the ones to do it.

True, but I'm already intrigued by them as I wrote.

As for Alaric...yeah, I'm not happy with him, either. I do hope that he ultimately pulls his head out of his butt and gets over Jo, BEFORE Damon rides off into the sunset with Elena.

God, yes!

To be honest, when that fake psychic delivered that cheesy spiel about Jo's love for him only for Alaric to reveal that the ring was a fake, I thought it might have been an implicit undermining of that "epic love". Am I just seeing things?

I didn't think that, but, man, I HOPE you're right!

I liked that we got to see the flash-forward from the end of last season in its proper context (though I doubt anyone was terribly surprised about said context - like I said, the Heretics are nothing but trouble)

Very true!

the bookending flash-forwards have me intrigued.

Me too!!!

*sigh* Enzo, stop letting Lily use you.

I know!! I am so disappointed in him! I had so hoped he would see that she was playing with him based on their conversation in the bar in NY, but alas, no. *sigh*

I don't think he and Caroline will ever have any sort of fling now, especially with her deciding to stop being afraid of her love for Stefan, to just let herself be happy with him.

Don't be so sure. I still have that sneaky suspicion it's Caroline in the 3 years in the future (because of that whole "she" and not saying a name) and if it's Caroline that means her switch is off again, and in that case, she could be with Enzo. Who knows? With this show... anything could happen.

(Now I'm picturing Elena's smile at seeing the two of them together. Dang it.)

I really do hope that when Nina comes back to usher Ian off that we get at least 4 episodes so we can get some good stuff with Elena and the others too, you know? *sigh*

Now, I wonder if Elena's coffin will get any cameos?

I know that Elena's coffin is supposed to be "safe" in the Salvatore crypt, but wasn't there a coffin next to Damon's in the book-ends? I could have sworn there was, and if there was, wouldn't that have been Elena's?
Mattghidorah15 on October 12th, 2015 11:32 pm (UTC)
Don't be so sure. I still have that sneaky suspicion it's Caroline in the 3 years in the future (because of that whole "she" and not saying a name) and if it's Caroline that means her switch is off again, and in that case, she could be with Enzo. Who knows? With this show... anything could happen.

Huh. I didn't think of that. Well, time will show us.
Arabian: Caroline08arabian on October 13th, 2015 08:08 am (UTC)
I could be completely wrong, but just the fact that they kept saying "she" instead of a name made me wonder... I dunno.
ThroughAnAmberFocus: Vampire Diaries Damon Thinkingamberfocus on October 10th, 2015 05:56 am (UTC)
I liked that spark of chemistry between Damon and Bonnie when he saved her. Just a flash, almost a blink and you'll miss it thing, and both tamped down quickly to friends status. It's an adrenaline spark, not a romantic spark. Neither would let it be a romantic spark, but it was still a nice little spark. And I loved the establishment of best friends status spoken aloud.

I was happy to see Caroline and Stefan no longer dragging their feet.

I'm tired of Matt. I used to love him, but his heart is just gone the last year or so and this season seems to be continuing on that theme.

I like Valerie. I don't care for the other two girls, but they were kind of vapid this episode. They might improve. Liked Bo and thought it was interesting that the mark on his neck matched the mark on Stefan in the last scene where he talks about his scar opening. That makes me think that maybe this new big bad is related to however Bo was made mute and not anything else we've seen yet.

Speculation: Big missing red stone is a resurrection stone brought to bring back who? Jo? Malcolm? Kai? Oh, gosh, what if bringing back Jo brings back Kai in some weird evil twin thing?

Is Tyler gone off the series now? I can't remember. Didn't he go wolfie at the end?
Arabian: Damon03arabian on October 11th, 2015 06:06 am (UTC)
I liked that spark of chemistry [...] Just a flash, almost a blink and you'll miss it thing, and both tamped down quickly to friends status.

See, that's what I meant. It appeared to be that, but the rest of the scene made it clear that's NOT what it was. Damon wasn't tamping sparks down. He was realizing he'd almost let her die, but she was his best friend and he couldn't do that no matter how much he loved Elena. And Bonnie was realizing she almost died, but Damon saved her. THAT is what that moment was. It was ALL about life or death. For Damon it was that he didn't choose Bonnie's death. For Bonnie it was that Damon saved her life. And then Bonnie realized that Damon took THREE SECONDS to make that choice to save her life. That is what was so brilliant.

Still, it gave the shippers something to hold onto, which is the right thing to do at this point from the show's perspective. And they will ignore this:

... the establishment of best friends status spoken aloud.

That just won't matter. Just like what ACTUALLY happened in the earlier scene won't matter. All the shippers will see is that "ooh! Damon/Bonnie moment" and let their shipper flag fly. I expect we'll get more ambiguous moments until they possibly set Bonnie up in a new romance. They have to keep what viewers they still have hanging on.

I was happy to see Caroline and Stefan no longer dragging their feet.

Me too. :)

I'm tired of Matt. I used to love him, but his heart is just gone the last year or so and this season seems to be continuing on that theme.

Well, it was just the first episode. And it makes sense why he would be where he is. Matt has been the only person who's had no one to truly love since this whole crazy started. When he was with Caroline, he was still hung up on Elena. By the time he was ready for her, she was a vampire and pushing him away, then turning to Tyler. Things could have happened with Rebekah, but then she went to New Orleans. His sister died, his mom left him, all of his friends turned into supernatural creatures, tried to kill him a couple of times, lied to him, betrayed him, destroyed his town, he died a couple of times, etc. He's had a really rough go of it. He just needs someone to turn to, to lose himself in, to be happy with. Hopefully, he gets that this season. Hopefully (mabye with Bonnie!).

I don't care for the other two girls, but they were kind of vapid this episode.

Oh, I didn't think so. They were kinda bitchy, but think of what they did! They stood up for Valerie and helped defend her. And when they were at the graduation, they had that moment where we saw that they loved each other, but are from a time when they couldn't openly show it and now they can, but it's a new thing. Nora is more comfortable with that than Mary Louise and is encouraging her. So already we're seeing the difference in the two and the support they show for each other but also their family. Also, we saw how that although they are frustrated with the strictures that Lily has placed, they do still love her. I just didn't see them vapid really.

Liked Bo

It's Beau, like "Beauregard," I think--a more common name in older times.

and thought it was interesting that the mark on his neck matched the mark on Stefan in the last scene where he talks about his scar opening.

Ooohh!! I missed that! Good catch!

That makes me think that maybe this new big bad is related to however Bo was made mute and not anything else we've seen yet.

I bet you're right!

Speculation: Big missing red stone is a resurrection stone brought to bring back who? Jo? Malcolm? Kai? Oh, gosh, what if bringing back Jo brings back Kai in some weird evil twin thing?

Probably Malcolm if anybody because the actress who plays Jo hasn't been seen anywhere on set even up until now (thank God!), and Chris Wood (love him!) is the star of Julie Plec's new show Containment, that I think will be a mid-season replacement show, so he's not coming back.

Is Tyler gone off the series now? I can't remember. Didn't he go wolfie at the end?

He is a werewolf again, but he is gone from the show. He's no longer a series regular, but that doesn't mean we won't necessarily see him again.
ThroughAnAmberFocus: Vampire Diaries--Caroline pensiveamberfocus on October 11th, 2015 09:16 pm (UTC)
Ah, Bo, Beau, I took a guess. I don't read cast lists or whatnot. In fact I still double check how to spell Stefan's name before I write about him, though I always have it right now.

I think Matt with Rebekah was the last time I liked Matt. I don't want to see him with Bonnie. I don't feel there is chemistry there. I had thought possible Valerie, but now I don't see how.

I have a hard time seeing Bonnie with anyone but Jeremy, so it is probably going to have to be someone new and amazing. While I think she and Damon would have chemistry, I don't want to go down that road with them because it wouldn't be true to their characters and it would feel like a betrayal on both their parts.

I really liked her with Kai until he became unredeemable. The only other guys on the show who are single, Enzo, Alaric, and Beau I can't see happening without a lot of work. Enzo sparks with Caroline, much like Klaus did, but that's not going to happen with her and Stefan starting something. Alaric is crazy and too old and screwed up. We don't know enough about Beau yet to see what might develop there, but his family is crazy, so... And they killed Malcolm but he did not seem a good match for her either. No one from that family really does. I mean, the most chemistry Bonnie has with anyone else is Stefan, but that's a no go. So please, someone new and fabulous or have Beau develop into someone who is.

I need a Bonnie icon.
Arabian: Bonnie04arabian on October 12th, 2015 09:18 am (UTC)
I think Matt with Rebekah was the last time I liked Matt. I don't want to see him with Bonnie. I don't feel there is chemistry there. I had thought possible Valerie, but now I don't see how.

I think that the chemistry can grow and develop over time with the situations and such, so we'll see.

Re: Bonnie and romance....

I did like her and Kai before he became too far gone. And, of course, I loved her and Jeremy. And way back in early season 01, I thought she and Stefan had potential. But now, because I love Matt and I love Bonnie and I'd even thought about how she could bring him back from his darkness when she returned from 1994, I like the idea of them. I mean, she herself was in an anti-vampire frame of mind towards the end of season 01 and the first half or of season 02, so she's been there. Plus, she and Matt have experienced similar types of loss, and were closest to Jeremy, so there are definitely bonds there that can be explored, plus they are the last standing with normal life spans (since they'll be gone when Elena comes back). I just see a possibility. I dunno.

I need a Bonnie icon.

You can always go through all of my TVD icons and see if I have any Bonnie ones you like, I have tons.
tj2013tj2013 on October 11th, 2015 11:40 am (UTC)
First things first: yay, our show is back! Yay, you are back, too! Thanks for analyzing everything. It was a pleasure to read.

I told my friend with whom I wath every season premiere and the finales, that now, after the first episode, it's not the tension-nail-chewing-filled "OMG What are they going to do with Damon and Elena???", but it's more like friends have been away over the summer and are now back in my life. It's a really nice feeling. And very entertaining nonetheless.

I loved what they did with Damon and Bonnie. I never expected them to go down the romantic route with them, but since the end of 4x02, when both arrived together at that paper latern thing, I loved the idea of them working together and getting things done. (Actually, no, they even worked together at the 60's dance in season 2, but then they hadn't that friends vibe yet)

Stefan and Caroline were so so adorable. And I liked that they didn't drag it out over several episodes, but that the are in a good place at the end of the first episode.

I miss Elena, but they did a really good job keeping her around, so to speak.

Quite intrigued by the heretics, I like the diary writing snarky one (and her accent), very curious where this is heading now that Malcolm is dead. Good to know they CAN be killed, though. After the failed blow-up I was like - WTF, how DO you kill them???? And now Lilly's first son has killed her first (new) son. She won't like that.

What are they doing with Ric???? I didn't like him in Season 6, and right now I don't like him either. There must be a reason they are doing this with him. Right???

Matt - well, we'll have to see what happens to him. But I definitively like your idea of kindling something between him and Bonnie. They were such a good team at the beginning of Season 3.

Btw, I like Damon's hair, LOL.

Enzo has been a very volatile (is that a word?) character from the beginning. But as long as we don't know his agenda, he could be playing Lilly, too. Or he has simply picked the wrong side... I wonder if we are going to see Sarah Salvatore again this season.

I can't imagine what would drive Damon to desiccate himself. And there was this other coffin (Elena's??) in the crypt. Very strange...

So yes, good start into the new season. Looking forward to next week. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!
Arabian: Bonnie03arabian on October 12th, 2015 09:13 am (UTC)
First things first: yay, our show is back! Yay, you are back, too! Thanks for analyzing everything. It was a pleasure to read.

Thanks. And, yay! Show is back! Honestly, I didn't expect my write-up to be as long as my usual ones (well, except for my uber-major D/E ones or finales--those were always really long). But, nope, this one was not that off, about 3,000 words. Uh huh. :shrugs:

I told my friend with whom I wath every season premiere and the finales, that now, after the first episode, it's not the tension-nail-chewing-filled "OMG What are they going to do with Damon and Elena???", but it's more like friends have been away over the summer and are now back in my life. It's a really nice feeling. And very entertaining nonetheless.

Yeah, I agree.

I loved what they did with Damon and Bonnie. I never expected them to go down the romantic route with them, but since the end of 4x02, when both arrived together at that paper latern thing, I loved the idea of them working together and getting things done. (Actually, no, they even worked together at the 60's dance in season 2, but then they hadn't that friends vibe yet)

Yes, exactly! I've always thought that they would be SUCH a great team, and now I think that they will have that Elena bond between them that will tie them really beautifully. I loved when Bonnie said that he's one of her biggest reminders of Elena.

Stefan and Caroline were so so adorable. And I liked that they didn't drag it out over several episodes, but that the are in a good place at the end of the first episode.

Too bad, she ended the episode kidnapped. But, of course, it's Caroline. She gets kidnapped. Of course.

I miss Elena, but they did a really good job keeping her around, so to speak.

I don't expect it to be SO there in every episode, but I do expect her presence to linger enough and be stronger in some episodes.

Quite intrigued by the heretics, I like the diary writing snarky one (and her accent), very curious where this is heading now that Malcolm is dead. Good to know they CAN be killed, though.

Yuppers all around.

And now Lilly's first son has killed her first (new) son. She won't like that.

We already know she isn't terribly fond of Damon already.

What are they doing with Ric???? I didn't like him in Season 6, and right now I don't like him either. There must be a reason they are doing this with him. Right???

I guess I can go back to my theory from last season? Maybe it's still valid and just a longer game? I dunno.

Matt - well, we'll have to see what happens to him. But I definitively like your idea of kindling something between him and Bonnie. They were such a good team at the beginning of Season 3.

Right? I could really cotton to that.

Btw, I like Damon's hair, LOL.

To be fair, it looked way better on the show than in still pics, but it just looked SO good last season.

Enzo has been a very volatile (is that a word?)

Yes.

character from the beginning. But as long as we don't know his agenda, he could be playing Lilly, too. Or he has simply picked the wrong side...

I think he's chosen Lily's side, but I think he'll wind up on the right side eventually. I think.

I wonder if we are going to see Sarah Salvatore again this season.

Me too.

I can't imagine what would drive Damon to desiccate himself.

I know!

And there was this other coffin (Elena's??) in the crypt. Very strange...

I wondered if it was Elena's too.

Edited at 2015-11-04 06:27 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous) on October 12th, 2015 02:35 pm (UTC)
Hi,
I just want to say that i love love love your tvd analysis.. i have to admit that i enjoying reading your analysis more then actually watching the show..they are just soo much in depth.. can i ask you one thing can you plz plz do episode analysis of season 1 ?
Arabian: Damon04arabian on October 12th, 2015 10:36 pm (UTC)
Well, thank you, but I'm sorry you're not enjoying the show more. Maybe if you rewatch the episodes after you read my posts?

I do plan on doing season 01 write-ups. I rewatched season 01 and wrote notes down like I do for all of my write-ups and I plan on writing them as if I haven't seen any of the following episodes. I'll get to it... eventually. I promise!
ThroughAnAmberFocus: Vampire Diaries Caroline Quizzicalamberfocus on October 17th, 2015 09:46 pm (UTC)
I am impatiently waiting for your thoughts on the next episode. I hope you are well and just too busy to write it.
Arabian: Caroline01arabian on October 18th, 2015 09:44 am (UTC)
Yeah, real life--car was hit (it's OK-ish), cat had to be taken to the vet (he's OK), but yeah, real life. The post is almost done and should be up sometime later this morning. I promise.
(Anonymous) on January 22nd, 2017 10:55 am (UTC)
Florencia7 in RE to 7x01 :) / part 1
So I was planning on making my shocking come back with this gif:



Alas, the come back is not so shocking anymore, since we already talked, but still, I thought I'd include this gif ;) So yeah, I was mad, I was sad, but I got over it and now I'm back for the ride and it better be good all the way till the very end lol Especially since I'm retiring from fanfic, so I won't be able to write myself a feel-better fic haha OK. Without further ado, onto your AMAZING post.

First of all, I missed your write-ups SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!! It's so good to be able to read them again!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see if I remember how to make a heart on LJ... ♥ ! ;D

“So it was sadness to not see Elena and know that she's technically not around, however, I thought the show did a fabulous job of keeping her presence alive.” - Yes, I thought so too (and I'm not talking only about 7x01). Elena is still in the story and... it's going to sound weird, maybe, but in hindsight (from the perspective of the entire S7) it feels like this Elena-less chapter of the story was an inevitable part of it. Like it should be there. It still hurts not to see Elena in every episode, but... this hurt, this pain also feels like it should be there, like it's something that had to happen, that will make the entire story even better, more complex and meaningful as a whole.

”to be fair, I think that Ian Somerhalder has chemistry with almost every one he interacts with onscreen” haha True!

”That moment was about Damon saving Bonnie... three seconds *AFTER* he should have.” - That was an awesome scene. And Damon's speech later concerning it was perfect too. I'm so glad they thought of it. Because, yes, it was 1000% in character for Damon to contemplate, if only for the grand total of 2 seconds, letting Bonnie die.

”Alaric is no longer Damon's best friend.” - That is sad and I feel like they purposefully kept Alaric off the spotlight for pretty much the whole season, because they figured we were all kind of mad at him lol So they didn't want to annoy us with too much Ric haha Having said that, I hope that maybe there will be a shift of some sort in S8? I'd love to see Damon and Alaric coming back to what they had before... And as I'm typing this sentence I remember something Alaric said to Damon in S7 that makes me think that maybe they won't. But maybe it's OK too. Maybe it's a learning experience. Maybe their friendship wasn't THE friendship of a lifetime.

”I really liked how they played the Bonnie and Damon scenes. Especially seeing the two deciding to work together as a team” - I liked their teamwork too. It was well done and fun to watch, every time. It was also refreshing seeing them, pretty much at all times being on the same page. (Except for one thing, but we'll get to that in later episodes.)

”I wasn't bothered by Damon carrying Bonnie in his arms after he saved her life because I didn't see it as a romantic gesture, but rather as setting Damon up as “A Hero.”” - Heh, as you may remember I WAS bothered, but I changed my mind on the subject and now I think you're totally right. And... oh boy, Damon the hero is a whole separate discussion that, again, we'll get to later I'm sure, because I have a LOT to say about it.

”Alas, it looks like Matt is going to continue to be on the opposite side of Damon.” - I thought Matt's arch this season was pretty great. I don't know. I was interested. I was invested. And of course Matt delivered a very thought-provoking line to Stefan toward the end of this season that makes it all even more interesting. But let's leave that for later. (Sorry that I keep saying that, it's just hard to only Focus on single episodes now.)
Arabian: Alaric01arabian on January 24th, 2017 02:40 am (UTC)
RE: Florencia7 in RE to 7x01 :) / part 1
Sorry, I ruined it, LOL! Great gif to make your return with. ;)

So yeah, I was mad, I was sad, but I got over it and now I'm back for the ride and it better be good all the way till the very end lol Especially since I'm retiring from fanfic, so I won't be able to write myself a feel-better fic haha OK.

As I told you already I am SO SO happy about this.

First of all, I missed your write-ups SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!! It's so good to be able to read them again!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see if I remember how to make a heart on LJ... ♥ !

Good job, LOL! I missed your detailed responses SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as well!

They really did (and continue to) make Elena's presence so there, so important to everyone. I love it so.

It still hurts not to see Elena in every episode, but... this hurt, this pain also feels like it should be there, like it's something that had to happen, that will make the entire story even better, more complex and meaningful as a whole.

Yeah, and that's partly what I'm so impressed with... they took what could and on pretty much any other show would have been a negative and used it to deepen the characters and their story arcs.

That was an awesome scene. And Damon's speech later concerning it was perfect too. I'm so glad they thought of it. Because, yes, it was 1000% in character for Damon to contemplate, if only for the grand total of 2 seconds, letting Bonnie die.

Yup, yup, yup. Of course, yes, the Damon/Bonnie fans saw it completely differently, but it was really clear to me what the intention was once the scene reached its conclusion. Needless to say, the D/B fans were not correct.

That is sad and I feel like they purposefully kept Alaric off the spotlight for pretty much the whole season, because they figured we were all kind of mad at him lol So they didn't want to annoy us with too much Ric haha

Actually, it took me a bit into the season, but I actually have a different take on this. I don't remember which episode I expounded on my theory, but it made sense to me.

Having said that, I hope that maybe there will be a shift of some sort in S8? I'd love to see Damon and Alaric coming back to what they had before... And as I'm typing this sentence I remember something Alaric said to Damon in S7 that makes me think that maybe they won't.

Erm, no comment... but, OK, a comment... don't get your hopes up. Don't get me wrong, I get what is happening on s8, but it's not that.

But maybe it's OK too. Maybe it's a learning experience. Maybe their friendship wasn't THE friendship of a lifetime.

Yeah.

Heh, as you may remember I WAS bothered, but I changed my mind on the subject and now I think you're totally right. And... oh boy, Damon the hero is a whole separate discussion that, again, we'll get to later I'm sure, because I have a LOT to say about it.

Yeah, I was just so sure that the 'hero' was the intention because of how it was shot. Damon as a hero, well, you'll see my train of thought over the season on Damon my love.

I thought Matt's arch this season was pretty great. I don't know. I was interested. I was invested. And of course Matt delivered a very thought-provoking line to Stefan toward the end of this season that makes it all even more interesting. But let's leave that for later. (Sorry that I keep saying that, it's just hard to only Focus on single episodes now.)

Yeah, I had a completely WRONG-ASS thought/hope for Matt that I still wish had happened, but ah well... still, yes, I loved most of what we got with Matt. I had a major issue with a part of it, but you'll see.
(Anonymous) on January 22nd, 2017 10:57 am (UTC)
Florencia7 in RE to 7x01 :) / part 2
”And the writing of the pair overall just continues to show how well the the show gets that about these two from the friendship to the romance to all of the little moments in between” - I think it's quite awesome that the show's almost over and I have no idea what the show wants to eventually do with Stefan and Caroline?!? But I have a feeling they're doing the right thing. I don't know. As unexpected as I felt S7 was their relationship-wise, it also didn't feel off or wrong.

”It just sounded a bit too much lecture-y for my taste, but ah well, Stefan, old habits die hard, huh? Still love you, boo.” - Well, yes to all of these sentiments! Haha BTW I was thinking about including a mini-series in my comments: “22 dumbest things Stefan said throughout all seasons”, but I'd have to look up episode numbers and such, and I have a flu and just don't feel very well today to start on that, so I think I'll pass. But anyway. I REALLY can't wait to read your thoughts on certain things Stefan said/did this season, because I feel like this is either utter delusion or utter brilliance on the writers' part. I'm still deciding which one haha

”Lots of Liz Forbes shout-outs too.” - I loved that too.

”I think Valerie is my “favorite” so far.” - I liked Valerie (well, at least until she started quoting Lexi), but I have to comment on one thing... how is it that whenever we find out something new about the past, in case of Damon it's always that he killed someone, and in case of Stefan... it's always a new girlfriend. Come on! LOL

”I love Damon; that is all.” - That is all indeed ♥

All in all, I loved the premiere and I think it's safe to say... I loved the entire S7! With the honorable mention of Brian Young for making sure that we saw certain someone whose name started with a K not with a C ON SCREEN. Thank you, Brian. A little thing, but makes one happy LOL

So here it is! My first reply to your S7 post :) Fair warning: I may be quite slow reading/replying, BUT I'll do everything humanly possible to catch up on all of your S7 posts within a month. And I'm planning on starting to watch S8 in February. But I'm OK with vague spoilers of the “THIS EPISODE OMG OMG OMG” kind! ;)

I missed you! ♥
Arabian: Damon04arabian on January 24th, 2017 02:45 am (UTC)
RE: Florencia7 in RE to 7x01 :) / part 2
I think it's quite awesome that the show's almost over and I have no idea what the show wants to eventually do with Stefan and Caroline?!? But I have a feeling they're doing the right thing. I don't know. As unexpected as I felt S7 was their relationship-wise, it also didn't feel off or wrong.

Yeah, you'll definitely get that vibe from me as well as you continue to read.

I was thinking about including a mini-series in my comments: “22 dumbest things Stefan said throughout all seasons”, but I'd have to look up episode numbers and such

Eh, you could always just look through transcripts, LOL!

I REALLY can't wait to read your thoughts on certain things Stefan said/did this season, because I feel like this is either utter delusion or utter brilliance on the writers' part.

Erm, I think you will be surprised at some of my thoughts throughout the season on Stefan, on Damon, etc.

how is it that whenever we find out something new about the past, in case of Damon it's always that he killed someone, and in case of Stefan... it's always a new girlfriend. Come on! LOL

So, so true. That is WHAT always happens! (Well, not in 4.17--in that one we just found out that he totally pwned Lexi's ass and that's why she hates him so much. HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA!)

With the honorable mention of Brian Young for making sure that we saw certain someone whose name started with a K not with a C ON SCREEN. Thank you, Brian. A little thing, but makes one happy LOL

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. It can't be Katherine because we saw her name on screen in the Pilot, and in other episodes that showed Stefan (or Damon) looking at that picture of her from the 1860s. Was it Kai? Have some people been spelling his name Chai?!

So lovely to hear from you again, and I look forward to the rest of your replies when you get the time!
(Anonymous) on January 29th, 2017 10:50 am (UTC)
RE: Florencia7 in RE to 7x01 :) / part 3
LOL Chai! That's a good one! haha But no, no no. Not whom I meant at all. I meant... ugh, you're making me type her name, ok, I survived worse lol I meant Krystal or whatever the right spelling is. It was just a very, very short scene when she and a few others ambushed Matt and Penny and then... I actually don't remember who, Valerie or Enzo or whoever, killed them. And that was the episode that Brian wrote and I really appreciated the fact that he took the time to show us that Damon's one-night stand girl died. I'm weird like that lol
Arabian: Damon12arabian on January 29th, 2017 01:29 pm (UTC)
RE: Florencia7 in RE to 7x01 :) / part 3
Oh, I see. I didn't have a problem story-wise at all with the Krystal stuff. In fact, I actually thought it was more proof about how much Damon loved Elena and... well, you'll see when you get to that episode.