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15 May 2014 @ 11:42 pm
5.22 - 'Home' (The Vampire Diaries), Take One  
This is so not the actual post. Just saying. I'm tired. I need to rewatch the episode, do gifs, write lots and lots of words, etc., etc., but I had to get something out now before I get that post up which probably won't get done for a few more days yet, if not longer.

- florencia7, was right. Damon died. She kept saying over and over that Damon was going to die, Damon was going to die. And I pish-poshed it because he already almost died so many times, and it's not like anyone would actually buy that Ian Somerhalder was leaving the show. But she was completely right. Damon done totes died.

And I cried in that that goodbye scene between Damon and Elena. Actual tears running down my face. Uh Uh. And, oh, look, another beautiful speech from Damon that Elena DOES NOT HEAR! It's their thing.

- Apparently the good thing about Julie Plec no longer giving a fuck about TVD is that that she no longer gives a fuck about humoring S/E fans who are trying to get her to give them hope about their future. Her response on twitter was: The arc of the last four episodes made it clear what is going to happen. "Do you believe Stefan can be with and fall in love with someone else when he said Elena is the love of his life?" I do. That's what healthy people do. Elena is with Damon for now and Stefan is moving on. It was pretty hilarious.

- Of course, we really don't need her twitter feed to see that Damon and Elena are the endgamiest of all endgame OTPs at this point. Everything in this episode screamed endgame LIKE WHOAH!

- I'm not worried at all about Damon coming back, he promised Elena he would come back to her. Plus, whatever it was that Grams did that she told Bonnie about is what is going to get Bonnie (and thus Damon back) I'm sure.

- Speaking of coming back. YES! Matt Davis will be returning as a series regular next season. And can I say how happy I am that that the show did not ignore what I've been thinking of how could they all not have been thinking of their buddies on the Other Side? They were, they did. So yay. I love when my show doesn't let me down.

- You know who's not coming back though? Lexi! What joy knowing that I don't have that hanging over my head. I'll only ever have to deal with her in flashbacks. On the other hand....

- Tyler Lockwood is a fucking cockroach. FUCK ME! And that that fucker will totally get in the way of Stefan and Caroline's blooming love. FUCK HIM!

- You know that whole 'Damon and Elena do bad things for each other therefore they are toxic' nonsense? Well, didja notice how Caroline kinda did the exact same thing for Stefan when she killed Luke? Uh huh.

- Just to clear it up because I've seen this confusion elsewhere -- Stefan and Elena are not human. They are still vampires. Tyler is a werewolf, but not a hybrid because he reverted back to pre-hybrid state. Stefan, Damon and Elena all died as vampires.

- Phew, Liz made it out alive another season. Aww, and Damon was so concerned for her. So sweet.

- I kind of kind of love that Damon and Bonnie are gonna have this bonding experience because I love how these are really the only two of the group who get shit done. I actually hope that it takes at least 4-6 episodes before those two manage to get brought back because I think it will be interesting to see how their relationship is different and how that effects the dynamics when they return.

- One of the side effect joys of having Alaric back is that because he is close to Damon and he is a father figure to Elena is the potential bonding that could have reconnected Stefan and Elena is less likely to happen now because Ric will fill that void. Can I just say, oh boy, are Elena and Jeremy really going to need Ric since they've both lost Damon and Bonnie.

- I did love that that we saw both brothers in devastation over each other because I love the brothers loving each other.

I know I didn't write much about Damon and Elena. I'm still processing all of that that because it was so beyond THIS-IS-YOUR-OTP and I just can't handle it right now. I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff and that's why I need to rewatch it and actually write a full post with lots and lots of thinky-thoughts. But yeah, bottom-line, great season, great finale. The triangle is clearly over. Damon and Elena are endgame. Stefan and Caroline are coming. Ric is back. And I have five months where my fingers can take a break from their steady descent into the land of carpel tunnel syndrome.
 
 
 
Bogwitch: TVD - Damon Won't Tellbogwitch on May 16th, 2014 07:22 am (UTC)
This finale was so much better than last year's.

I pretty much knew Damon was going to die too. Tumblr managed to work out pretty much the layout of the whole episode, including Caroline killing Luke. I think the only surpise was how involved Liz was (I am so surprised she is still around, but I am glad of it). I might have been a touch more spoiled than I like this time round! But that's the price I paid for my curiosity. At least I did manage to squeeze out a tear or two - mostly because of Stefan's reaction.

Damon and Bonnie are trapped then with whatever Grams cooked up, plus two heavy magic users in Markos and Silas. I wonder if that is signifcant? It looks like they are going to be over there of a significant time if they are building a set of them, so they will need to interact with someone or it's going to be just a lot of wandering around together...
Arabian: Damon13arabian on May 18th, 2014 03:17 am (UTC)
This finale was so much better than last year's.

Oh, I really liked last year's too A LOT, but I did like this one better. I'd rank the finales:

Home
As I Lay Dying
Graduation
Dearly Departed
Founder's Day (was not the fan of this that so many others were)

I pretty much knew Damon was going to die too. Tumblr managed to work out pretty much the layout of the whole episode, including Caroline killing Luke.

I did figure out that Damon was going to suicide himself and Elena was going with him from the extended preview. I'm not one much for figuring out the plot-stuff so I pat myself on the back for that, LOL!, I figure out the character stuff pretty good though generally.

I think the only surpise was how involved Liz was (I am so surprised she is still around, but I am glad of it).

LIZ!!! Only season 01 recurring character STILL alive and kicking. WOOHOO!

I might have been a touch more spoiled than I like this time round! But that's the price I paid for my curiosity. At least I did manage to squeeze out a tear or two - mostly because of Stefan's reaction.

I cried, and everytime I rewatch the damn ending (from Elena showing up in that empty shed on) I cry. Damnit. TV shows do not make me cry. Stupid show.

Damon and Bonnie are trapped then with whatever Grams cooked up, plus two heavy magic users in Markos and Silas.

They're not with Markos and Silas. I don't think Damon and Bonnie are trapped with the others. Those other characters are gone, I'm pretty sure. Damon and Bonnie are somewhere else.

I wonder if that is signifcant? It looks like they are going to be over there of a significant time if they are building a set of them, so they will need to interact with someone or it's going to be just a lot of wandering around together...

I have a theory, which I'll talk about in my longer post that is percolating in my brain.

Edited at 2014-05-18 05:36 am (UTC)
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on May 18th, 2014 04:26 pm (UTC)
It's all relative. I liked last year's finale, but I thought it was too rushed, like they were trying to resolve too many storylines and giving none of them the space they needed to resolve themselves satisfactorily.

I'm not really into playing the favourites game, but my list would be:

As I Lay Dying
The Departed
Home
Founder's Day
Graduation

It is difficult to place Home just yet, it'll be easier to rank with some distance and a rewatch, but I don't think it will ever go top of that list. I was a bit disappointed about how spoiled I'd been when I first commented, but actually I think I am rather glad of it. I am far more upset now than I was when I'd just got up after watching it at 2am - that time of night is just not the best time to be getting emotions out of me! The experience of getting up a bit earlier and watching a download was so much better than watching live with all the ads; it seems to slow things down and its easier to get a handle on what's happening (I totally misread the Silas/Markos thing wrong, I accept that), but the genie is out of the bottle now, I can't sleep knowing I could be watching! That's the only good thing about the summer hiatus - I get my sleep back.

I think it's easier to figure out the character-stuff because they belong to the long story arcs and the long arc is still right on point.

I was so worried for Liz this season, I said the beginning I thought she wouldn't have a place anymore and that would make her vulnerable and I think I was right to an extent, we haven't seen a lot of her. Maybe the reason she has survived is that she is needed as one of the few people who can get inside the town? Someone needs to recover Damon's body so it can be moved to the Salvatore crypt so Elena can return to being the graveyard girl and spend far too much time in there mourning him, no?

Speaking of. Shed? Isn't that meant to be the Salvatore crypt? (Interesting they built a set for that *this* season; and such a pretty one...)

I've seen a few theories about what they might do with Damon and Bonnie, I look forward to reading yours.
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on May 19th, 2014 04:21 am (UTC)
Yeah, I imagine that having to watch the show as you do, it messes with the full emotional experience at times.

That's the only good thing about the summer hiatus - I get my sleep back.

For me, it's getting my time back that's spent on my posts, LOL!

I think it's easier to figure out the character-stuff because they belong to the long story arcs and the long arc is still right on point.

I don't know, I rather think it's the other way around. The character stuff is where I've noticed most others seem go off-center. The plot stuff is pretty easy to pick up on from clues in the episodes, the interviews, the previews, the stills, the synoses, the spoilers, the promos, etc. I just have cut myself off from most of that now.

I was so worried for Liz this season, I said the beginning I thought she wouldn't have a place anymore and that would make her vulnerable and I think I was right to an extent, we haven't seen a lot of her. Maybe the reason she has survived is that she is needed as one of the few people who can get inside the town?

Yeah, I think so. And Caroline still needs her mom!

Someone needs to recover Damon's body so it can be moved to the Salvatore crypt so Elena can return to being the graveyard girl and spend far too much time in there mourning him, no?

The Salvatore Crypt is IN Mystic Falls, so Elena can't go there. Why wouldn't the Salvatore Crypt be in the town of which their family is one of the founding families?

Speaking of. Shed? Isn't that meant to be the Salvatore crypt? (Interesting they built a set for that *this* season; and such a pretty one...)

Again, the Salvatore Crypt is in Mystic Falls, and the vampires can't go in Mystic Falls, and the witches can't practice their magic there. So that was just some place that Liv was doing her magic, it wasn't ever specified as far as I recall. I'll check for sure when I rewatch it, but it can't be the Salvatore Crypt.


I've seen a few theories about what they might do with Damon and Bonnie, I look forward to reading yours.

Well, I don't have some big-blown out theory, just a few small ideas. I don't want to think too much about it. I trust the writers completely with whatever they're going to do.

ETA: Finally rewatched it, and you're right, well, maybe-ish. I mean, we don't know that was the Salvatore crypt specifically, but it was in the Mystic Fall cemetery and it makes sense that it would be the Salvatore Crypt, because Damon said that the cemetery was outside the Traveler spell range when looking at the map. Although I thought that Damon and Alaric were in the Salvatore Crypt when human!Alaric nearly died in "Do Not Go Gentle." But it's clearly a bigger set, so :shrug:

Edited at 2014-06-01 06:31 am (UTC)
Frust-sheep: sheep: frust-sheep mainfrust_sheep on May 16th, 2014 11:19 am (UTC)
Oh my, so much emotions...again in this fandom. *sigh* Of course I'm excited to read your thoughts again. :D

Just a little other question, because I found nothing about that: Did LJ mention, that they want to change the layout again? 8O Of course I doubt, that they did tell us this. Anyway I really hate that new layout. :(
Arabian: Elena 14arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:05 am (UTC)
LJ's been planning on making these changes for a while; I believe they had a note on their homepage about a bunch of changes, including this to be more up to date with current online trends, whatever. I've still got the my main page looking like my design, which I like, and (small voice) I actually kinda like the way this layout looks. But then I've had my comment pages set to standard white for a while because that way they're just the same for everyone, easy to read.

Of course I'm excited to read your thoughts again. :D

It'll probably be a week or so before I get them up, but if what I'm thinking in my head winds up in my post, it's gonna be pretty durn long! Like LONG, LONG!
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on May 18th, 2014 04:27 pm (UTC)
I like the new layout too. It's nice and clean.
Frust-sheep: sheep: frust-sheep mainfrust_sheep on May 21st, 2014 11:24 pm (UTC)
Ah I see. Thank you arabian for this insight, too. :) I think I have missed, that LJ' s been planning on making these changes. *lol*
I just wanted at least my old profile page back. *lol* And a friend showed me how to do that. I'm really glad for this possibility.

Oh a long post from you is always good. Anyway I will looking forward to your post. :D
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on May 18th, 2014 04:31 pm (UTC)
I have a suspicion that the re-design has a lot to do with making the site more tablet friendly, as well as the new owners putting their stamp on it. After what Spotify have done to mangle their UI (which looks pretty but is terrible to use) what LJ have done looks fine to me.
Frust-sheep: sheep: frust-sheep mainfrust_sheep on May 21st, 2014 10:49 pm (UTC)
Thanks bogwitch for this insight. :)
A friend of mine showed me how I can use my old layout. So I changed it back. I'm so glad for this possibility.
dancing till the world ends: tvd: this is my choicelynnenne on May 16th, 2014 12:25 pm (UTC)
Plus, whatever it was that Grams did that she told Bonnie about is what is going to get Bonnie (and thus Damon back) I'm sure.

Agreed.

Phew, Liz made it out alive another season. Aww, and Damon was so concerned for her.

Damon and Liz's friendship is one of my favorite things about this show. I wish she were on in every episode.

Can I just say, oh boy, are Elena and Jeremy really going to need Ric since they've both lost Damon and Bonnie.

Agreed! Yay for Daddy Ric. Has it been confirmed that Matt Davis is returning full-time? That would make me very happy.
Arabian: Damon&Alaric02arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:10 am (UTC)
Damon and Liz's friendship is one of my favorite things about this show.

I really hope that Caroline somehow finds out that Damon didn't make it because he was saving Liz's life, you know?

Has it been confirmed that Matt Davis is returning full-time?

Yup! It is confirmed. Michael Malarkey (Enzo) is also going to be a series regular next season as well. Meaning that when Damon comes back he is going to be surrounded by people who openly care: Elena, Stefan, Ric, Enzo, Liz and after whatever happens, probably Bonnie too. However will Damon fans cope with that?!?! :D :D
luvdeananddamon: pic#121987990luvdeananddamon on May 16th, 2014 12:27 pm (UTC)
I'm glad to read your positivity about Damon coming back.
I was so upset last night that I couldn't really think straight. I knew Damon would die to get Stefan back but I had no idea that they would not let him get back through before the episode ended. That really shook me up - I think I'm still shook up 11 hours later!

Good news about Alaric! I haven't been able to fully be happy about it yet because, you know, Damon. ;)

Looking forward to your full post!
Arabian: Ian Somerhalder06arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:19 am (UTC)
Oh, I have literally 0% doubt that Damon is coming back, it's just a question of HOW he is coming back and how LONG it's going to take before he comes back. :)

Looking forward to your full post!

It'll probably take a week or so, and it'll probably be pretty durn LONG!
tj2013tj2013 on May 16th, 2014 02:28 pm (UTC)
I loved the episode, but it had me in tears, actual tears streaming down my face, and on second watch it was even worse. Wow. Still processing. The music, the lighting, the lines ... just wow.
Tyler - geez, I thought he was gone for good once he entered the perimeter.
Ric is back, and Elena and Jer are so going to need him. Loved his exchange with Damon, loved the love of the brothers, loved Liv who knew what she was walking into as soon as Markos made her drink with him.
Looking forward to your longer post and your gifs.
Arabian: Damon09arabian on May 18th, 2014 06:04 am (UTC)
I loved the episode, but it had me in tears, actual tears streaming down my face, and on second watch it was even worse. Wow. Still processing. The music, the lighting, the lines ... just wow.

Yeah, stupid show. Making us cry.

Tyler - geez, I thought he was gone for good once he entered the perimeter.

I actually said "Finally." aloud. But I shockingly am OK with his being alive-ness because I like the direction they are going with his story. I know, shocking coming from me.

Ric is back, and Elena and Jer are so going to need him. Loved his exchange with Damon, loved the love of the brothers, loved Liv who knew what she was walking into as soon as Markos made her drink with him.

You so mean Liz, not Liv. Liv is the not as awesome twin. Sorry, I still love Luke. And, yes, to everything else. Go Liz. Made it out another season alive!

Looking forward to your longer post and your gifs.

Give it a week, I think, and if I get even half these thoughts percolating in my head into my post, it will be very long indeed!
tj2013tj2013 on May 18th, 2014 08:57 am (UTC)

I actually said "Finally." aloud. But I shockingly am OK with his being alive-ness because I like the direction they are going with his story. I know, shocking coming from me.

Hah - shocking indeed, coming from you, LOL. But with his hybrid-stuff gone and him trying not to trigger the werewolf gene again (boy has rage issues,that's for sure) - I am kinda excited, too.

Yeah, stupid show. Making us cry.

So true. Like you I still can't watch the last ten minutes without tearing up. It even happened while I was driving yesterday. Suddenly I thought about Elena alone in the shed and tears were running down my face. I think it's wonderful that a TV show can accomplish that. But geez... I felt wrung out the whole day.

You so mean Liz, not Liv.

Of course I meant Liz. The one and only Liz Forbes. *smacks on the forehead*. Huh I usually go nitpicking at other people for mixing up the characters or writing the names wrong (I don't know how often I have seen Stephan or Demon), eek, now I did it, LOL.

it will be very long indeed!
I don't mind at all (insert grin) - it will keep me going over the hiatus.

bangel_4e: delena1bangel_4e on May 16th, 2014 03:00 pm (UTC)
I have been quite busy to comment the last reviews you made (although I did read them) but here I am for the finale.

Agreed about the endgame of all endgames....I'm still in shock and I can't form 100% coherent thoughts but damn, every Delena scene in the finale was beyond perfection...I just...Man, Nina and Ian are wonderful...I cried like a baby :(
Yep, the Julie Plec bit was hilarious...it's totally clear at this point that the triangle is really, TRULY over. Elena saying all she can sees is a future with Damon and Damon saying to her that he's been seeing that since he first laid eyes on her...WHAT IS MY LIFE!!!! That was so, so so beautiful.
I gotta say, though, I knew Damon was gonna die. Since The Cell, I felt they might go with this, sort of a complete journey. I don't even know why, I just felt it...Damon came up with the plan to save the town, sacrificing himself and not knowing if everything was gonna work..and he stopped to save Liz and delayed arriving to Bonnie...and then the stupid Luke w(b)itch...ah, what a finale.
He will come back with Bonnie, I'm pretty sure of it...but it's gonna take time...delaying Delena wonderful reunion. Ehehe, they like to make us suffer for these two. It was overall a solid finale and I loved every second of it..I think, so far, it's the best finale for me...and I managed to stay spoiler-free so yay!

Randoms:

-Caroline killing Luke..ah, the things we do for love. Yes, she knew he was probably gonna come back but she didn't even flinch lol. And what a sweet scene in the end, consoling Stefan.

-Lexi!! Yeah, I know you don't like her eheh...I love her though but I so appreciate what she did for Stefan and ultimately giving Damon a chance to go back.

-RIC!!!! OH, my heart. I had the feeling, while he was on, that there was something wrong with him though...like, he was sadder and in a darker place than everyone else..uhm. Maybe that's just me being completely weird. And yep, Jeremy and Elena are surely gonna need him..now more than ever.

-I kind of kind of love that that Damon and Bonnie are gonna have this bonding experience because I love how these are really the only two of the group who get shit done
Had the exact same thought yesterday when I was watching.



I need to re-watch it though...I managed to get a decent streaming link but I might have missed something.



Oh yeah...Tyler's still alive. FUCK THAT. JUST FUCK. I HATE HIM...couldn't he die??? Like, die ...dead 100%????


Edited at 2014-05-16 03:01 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Damon & Elena41arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:39 am (UTC)
I have been quite busy to comment the last reviews you made (although I did read them) but here I am for the finale.

I've noticed that. :( But if you want to go back and comment later, I'm all up for that! :D

Agreed about the endgame of all endgames....I'm still in shock and I can't form 100% coherent thoughts but damn, every Delena scene in the finale was beyond perfection...I just...Man, Nina and Ian are wonderful...I cried like a baby :(

I know, RIGHT!??!?!

Yep, the Julie Plec bit was hilarious...it's totally clear at this point that the triangle is really, TRULY over. Elena saying all she can sees is a future with Damon and Damon saying to her that he's been seeing that since he first laid eyes on her...WHAT IS MY LIFE!!!! That was so, so so beautiful.

I know, right!? And yet you still see stupid-ass reviews referring to the triangle as if the show is still driven by it. Geez-louise! So clearly not paying attention AT ALL!

I gotta say, though, I knew Damon was gonna die. Since The Cell, I felt they might go with this, sort of a complete journey. I don't even know why, I just felt it...Damon came up with the plan to save the town, sacrificing himself and not knowing if everything was gonna work..and he stopped to save Liz and delayed arriving to Bonnie...and then the stupid Luke w(b)itch

I'm sorry, I don't blame Luke AT ALL! And I don't think he's stupid or a bitch at all. If you're going to blame or be hateful towards anyone who went through Bonnie unfairly at this point, it would be Enzo who is supposedly Damon's friend. Luke was MURDERED by Caroline. Yes, he and Liv tried to kill Elena or Stefan but it was LITERALLY something they were forced to do by their coven as a last resort to save EVERY SINGLE vampire on the planet and EVERY single WITCH and source of magic on the planet. That's why he did what he did, then in order to get their help, Caroline murdered Luke, and then his sister was DYING by doing this to save them. That's why he went through. He didn't do anything that any of our guys wouldn't have done. Enzo on the other hand, who KNEW how dangerous this all was for Bonnie because he was privvy to most of the conversations leading up to this, just walked on through, not waiting for Damon, not helping to find him, nada. So, nope, not gonna be down on Luke.

(small voice) Sorry, but I like Luke.

...ah, what a finale.

I think it's my favorite one so far.

He will come back with Bonnie, I'm pretty sure of it...but it's gonna take time...delaying Delena wonderful reunion.

Yeah, it's not a question of IF he'll come back, but HOW and HOW LONG.

I think, so far, it's the best finale for me...and I managed to stay spoiler-free so yay!

Yup and YAY for you! So much better, huh? I did figure out that Damon was going to drive the suicide himself and Elena was going with him from the extended preview.

-RIC!!!! OH, my heart. I had the feeling, while he was on, that there was something wrong with him though...like, he was sadder and in a darker place than everyone else..uhm. Maybe that's just me being completely weird. And yep, Jeremy and Elena are surely gonna need him..now more than ever.

I don't know, I think that sadness was solely from the situation, because he seemed totally fine when he first saw Damon. The only other time we really saw him was after they'd lost Damon so of course he'd seem sadder and darker.

I need to re-watch it though...I managed to get a decent streaming link but I might have missed something.

I'm gonna rewatch before I do my massive Take Two post.

Oh yeah...Tyler's still alive. FUCK THAT. JUST FUCK. I HATE HIM...couldn't he die??? Like, die ...dead 100%????

Prepare to be shocked, I actually am OK with him being alive now because I like where they are going with him. Has a lot of interesting potential. I know, I'm kinda shocked myself.
bangel_4e: buffybangel_4e on May 18th, 2014 01:17 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, I don't blame Luke AT ALL! And I don't think he's stupid or a bitch at all. If you're going to blame or be hateful towards anyone who went through Bonnie unfairly at this point, it would be Enzo who is supposedly Damon's friend. Luke was MURDERED by Caroline. Yes, he and Liv tried to kill Elena or Stefan but it was LITERALLY something they were forced to do by their coven as a last resort to save EVERY SINGLE vampire on the planet and EVERY single WITCH and source of magic on the planet. That's why he did what he did, then in order to get their help, Caroline murdered Luke, and then his sister was DYING by doing this to save them. That's why he went through. He didn't do anything that any of our guys wouldn't have done. Enzo on the other hand, who KNEW how dangerous this all was for Bonnie because he was privvy to most of the conversations leading up to this, just walked on through, not waiting for Damon, not helping to find him, nada. So, nope, not gonna be down on Luke.

Ahahahah,..no worries. That was me venting...and I say what's on my mind through that time...it comes natural, for me, rewatching that moment...to be mad at Luke cause he stopped the spell. It's a natural reaction :) I understand why he did it but still,in the heat of moment I do and I will keep calling him a little bitch :)
But tbh, I don't really care about him. He's just there...whatever.

Yep, Enzo is definitely not Damon's friend lol



Prepare to be shocked, I actually am OK with him being alive now because I like where they are going with him. Has a lot of interesting potential. I know, I'm kinda shocked myself.


That shocks me A LOT... ahahah

Edited at 2014-05-18 01:17 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Alaric02arabian on August 3rd, 2014 12:37 pm (UTC)
I hope that TVD doesn't let me down re: Tyler since I'm actually looking forward to his story next season, LOL!
Florencia: DE (Travel Safe)florencia7 on May 16th, 2014 03:52 pm (UTC)
*still crying* In fact, I'm crying even more today just listening to Wings than I was yesterdaday. How are we going to survive this summer?!?!?!?!

You know I wish I was wrong! :[ And thank you for the credit, but I'm afraid it was a pretty popular prediction *sigh* I guess the moment that it really occurred to me as something certain to happen was when during the DE phone call in 5x01 Elena said: "I love you, Damon." and Damon's response was: "Good night, Elena."

I'm SO happy that Alaric is back! :D I can hardly believe it! :D Nonetheless, the award for the most shocking twist of the night goes to Tyler for being alive *____________________________* How did that happen?!?!?!?!?!?!!?! But of course, after 5 seasons his character is finally going to have purpose, which is him being a nuisance & quasi-obstacle in Stefan/Caroline romance *eye-roll*

haha That's fun about Julie's tweets. But I actually think that it's not so much the fact that she doesn't care about TVD anymore, but rather that in the past she was just being a good producer and trying to keep both DE and SE sides of the fandom guessing. Now, however, when it is CLEAR to every sane, intelligent viewer that DE is endgame, she just doesn't bother anymore. Let's face it: after everything that happened, after 5 YEARS of DE love story, it really takes a serious case of delusion to believe SE is going to come back lol

I'm looking forward to your longer post!!! ♥ ♥ ♥
Arabian: Damon & Elena41arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:27 am (UTC)
*still crying* In fact, I'm crying even more today just listening to Wings than I was yesterdaday. How are we going to survive this summer?!?!?!?!

I'm just weird. I chill over hiatuses, LOL! I'm already pretty much mostly in the chill stage. I mean, I'm not there yet because I haven't written my full-length post yet, but I'm getting there already. The full-frenzy of OMG! won't start hitting me until a week or two before the season returns. :) Don't get me wrong, I'm still crying when I rewatch the last five minutes, and I have no doubt I'll cry when rewatch the episode, but I'm cool.

after 5 seasons his character is finally going to have purpose, which is him being a nuisance & quasi-obstacle in Stefan/Caroline romance *eye-roll*

And I don't think he's going to a detriment to S/C. I think it's going to be Matt or Enzo, but mostly I'm leaning towards Matt. There was a reason there was that pretty, pretty pic of Caroline on Matt's phone and we got that super lovely close-up of it. (I actually DID suspect this even before I read Julie's interview that basically said Tyler was gonna get a new love interest.) And shockingly enough, I'm actually looking forward to Tyler's arc next season (I KNOW!). Anyhoo, more thoughts on this in my LONG-ASS post to come.

I actually think that it's not so much the fact that she doesn't care about TVD anymore

I'm just bitter about TO and how the writing of the former TVD characters on that show have massacred their past and potential future storylines on TVD, I mean, honestly, can Rebekah really EVER come back and be with Matt now, really? Now with a super-original-vampire baby in tow! And don't EVEN get me started on that bs as Rebekah's long-desired wish. (GRRR!)

but rather that in the past she was just being a good producer and trying to keep both DE and SE sides of the fandom guessing. Now, however, when it is CLEAR to every sane, intelligent viewer that DE is endgame, she just doesn't bother anymore. Let's face it: after everything that happened, after 5 YEARS of DE love story, it really takes a serious case of delusion to believe SE is going to come back lol

True dat!

I'm looking forward to your longer post!!! ♥ ♥ ♥

It's coming, but I'm thinking about a week probably (you know, gotta wait for days off, and brain percolation) and yeah, it's gonna be long if all of the stuff percolating already is gonna make it into the post!
jairem08: pic#122702267jairem08 on May 16th, 2014 07:48 pm (UTC)
I'm still in like denial stage.
They are coming back, right? Wow, Elena's heartbreak and Damon.... Those speeches and they are sososososo endgame it is not even funny. Provided Damon comes back???? But he must. I trust grams has it worked out.
Another several hints and nudges about Steroline. So obvious. Tyler, go away!!!!.
Does this mean Camaro is caput?
Ric is back!!!!!
I'm awaiting emotional wave to hit me soon. I'm still in a stupor over Damon gone. I loved the way Elena showed her grief. And the love and feelings confessions through the episode....My heart. I'm still a bit incoherent.
I'm looking forward to your write up whenever you are ready. I have a raging headache so need to cool down.
Arabian: Damon05arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:14 am (UTC)
I'm still in like denial stage.

I'm not in denial. I mean, he's coming back. Obviously. The question is just HOW is he coming back.

They are coming back, right?

Of course.

I trust grams has it worked out.

Yeah, that has to come into play.

Another several hints and nudges about Steroline. So obvious. Tyler, go away!!!!

I don't think Tyler is going to the issue. I think it that Matt or Enzo (most likely Matt) will the Stefan/Caroline spoiler honestly. More thoughts on that in my longer post.

Does this mean Camaro is caput?

Sadly, yes.

Ric is back!!!!!

Happily, YES!

I'm looking forward to your write up whenever you are ready.

It'll probably be about a week, but I'm thinking it's gonna be pretty long!

I have a raging headache so need to cool down.

I hope it went away quickly!
Diana: Vampire Diaries - Comfort (E/C)butterfly on May 17th, 2014 03:27 am (UTC)
I spent almost the last half of the episode weeping.

It started during the Grams & Bonnie scene and then just would not stop. Such a good finale. So many emotions.

Delena were beautiful and perfect and painful. Alaric coming back is wonderful. A+ to Lexi for taking out Marcos; yay! Liz surviving = yay.

But, mostly, all the tears!
Arabian: Elena-Caroline & Bonnie01arabian on May 18th, 2014 05:07 am (UTC)
Like I said on the phone, I can't watch the last five minutes without crying. Stupid show.

Such a good finale. So many emotions.

It really was fantastic. I think it's my favorite of the finales. Other than not caring about Lexi having a hero moment as you know how I feel about her, I agree with all of this:

Delena were beautiful and perfect and painful. Alaric coming back is wonderful. A+ to Lexi for taking out Marcos; yay! Liz surviving = yay.

But, mostly, all the tears!


So many tears!
vanimy: D/E kissvanimy on May 18th, 2014 12:48 am (UTC)
Hi! I'm sorry for being AWOL, I was in the process of moving out/moving in and having bad Internet access and then little time. I hope I can come back for more comments.

How great was this finale? Even though Damon dying was all over tumblr despite my staying out of spoilers, I was still on the edge of my seat all episode. And I still can't believe Damon's gone. I was shocked but not too worried when Stefan was killed off in last episode but I was shocked characters like Enzo and Tyler survived when Damon didn't. Glad Alaric's back though.

Damon/Elena and all their scenes about killed me. That scene with them in the woods and that foreshadowing of light between them (the same light we saw right at the end of the episode) and Damon saying he saw a future with her since he first laid eyes on her. *dies of feels* Then of course there was this last scene and Elena losing it over losing him and Damon being all like 'Ghost' like.

Tyler Lockwood is a fucking cockroach.

I think I died laughing. Best comparison ever!!!! I was like 'noooo, you're not allowed to live, no one freakin cares about you anymore!!!!' This character is so freaking useless yet somehow manages to lurk around...

-Stefan/Caroline and Damon/Elena are so damn endgame. If I had any doubt left, this ending would've wiped them away. This was a golden opportunity to have Stefan and Elena who both lost the most important person in their lives to comfort each other and the writers purposefully had Elena be comforted by Ric and Stefan by Caroline.

-As if Damon dying and the last Damon/Elena scene didn't make me cry enough, the Bonnie/Jeremy phonecall and Bb!Jeremy being hurt kinda killed me.

-I was glad Bonnie and Damon had each other. But I couldn't help but think the Bamon shippers must be having a field day with this last scene.

Can't wait for your more in depth review.


Arabian: Damon & Elena41arabian on May 18th, 2014 04:59 am (UTC)
Hi! I'm sorry for being AWOL, I was in the process of moving out/moving in and having bad Internet access and then little time. I hope I can come back for more comments.

Ah, I was wondering where you'd gone; glad to know it wasn't related to upset over the show. Phew! Look forward to comments to earlier posts.

How great was this finale? Even though Damon dying was all over tumblr despite my staying out of spoilers, I was still on the edge of my seat all episode. And I still can't believe Damon's gone. I was shocked but not too worried when Stefan was killed off in last episode but I was shocked characters like Enzo and Tyler survived when Damon didn't. Glad Alaric's back though.

I actually had a teeny concern about Stefan just because they'd put the triangle at SUCH an end that a part of me wondered if that was why, but once Paul was announced for the Upfronts, I was like, oh, OK then. He's fine. LOL! on the other hand, eEven with Damon being killed off, I'm all pfft! I'm honestly shocked that ANYONE is even the slightest bit worried or even concerned that it means that Ian and/or Damon isn't coming back, but sure enough, yeah, I'm seeing that concern all over the place. To me, it's just a question of HOW Damon is coming back. Because... duh. It's Ian Somerhalder. They've got him locked down through season 06, they ain't letting him go before then, hello! IT'S IAN SOMERHALDER!

I think I died laughing. Best comparison ever!!!! I was like 'noooo, you're not allowed to live, no one freakin cares about you anymore!!!!' This character is so freaking useless yet somehow manages to lurk around...

While I still think that Trevino is the weakest actor--scratch that, with Michael Malarky being added a series regular next season, he and well, the other Michael can tag team for that title, knowing what direction they are going with Tyler, I actually have turned around on him. I like what they have planned and I'm glad he lived. I KNOW!!!!

-Stefan/Caroline and Damon/Elena are so damn endgame.

SQUEEE!!!

If I had any doubt left, this ending would've wiped them away. This was a golden opportunity to have Stefan and Elena who both lost the most important person in their lives to comfort each other and the writers purposefully had Elena be comforted by Ric and Stefan by Caroline.

Yup. I can't believe the number of S/Ers who are missing the obvious factor of Ric being back in the comfort over Damon's loss. They keep saying that Stefan and Elena will obviously get back together when they re-bond over grieving Damon together. And I'll, uh, you do get that part of bringing Ric back was because he's going to be there for Elena to grieve over Damon with, right? That's kinda part of the point, right? Obviously, no, they don't. No.

-As if Damon dying and the last Damon/Elena scene didn't make me cry enough, the Bonnie/Jeremy phonecall and Bb!Jeremy being hurt kinda killed me.

I can't watch the last five minutes without crying. Stupid show.

-I was glad Bonnie and Damon had each other. But I couldn't help but think the Bamon shippers must be having a field day with this last scene.

Oh, they are, but I don't care, because I love the Damon/Bonnie relationship as a non-shipper and I think it's going to create a very fascinating dynamic when they do come back.

Can't wait for your more in depth review.

It'll probably be a week or so because I've got a lot to cover.

Edited at 2014-05-18 05:00 am (UTC)
(Anonymous) on May 18th, 2014 12:40 pm (UTC)
God, this finale ripped my heart out! I cried more only after 322 - and it's cuz I was so devastated that Damon had to face rejection when his life basically was hanging in the balance, my heart ached for him! Though I knew Elena was not ready to choose him, but still it stung. ))
And I was waiting for Damon to die since 401. LOL It's just Damon's life was in danger every season finale and I was sure they will kill him one day, because they just couldn't miss to explore this storyline from the books. So I prayed for the writers to kill him in S4 or S5 finale, because I thought it will rule out the chance that they will kill Damon off in the series finale. (And I wanted this heartbreaking scenes with Delena ofcourse! LOL ) I think it would've been boring and repetitive to bring him back and kill him off forever again - so I think they won't kill him twice and he'll have his happy ending in the series finale, he deserves it.
You know. I was so bummed this season because S4 was tainted for me with the SB crap and I was waiting for S5 to actually have Delena without any questions and magical influences and switches-off and all. And we didn't get much of a couple moments I was so looking forward to. We were TOLD about happy "summer of their lifes", but were shown nothing from it. And Delena had sooo little scenes together, I was so frustrated! (probably it has smth to do with me expecting for the writers to revive the triangle in S6 somehow and I just wanted to have my fill of Delena in the meantime.) And I remember in one of your posts you wrote about the lack of Delena screentime and that you are ok with that coz you think there is an explanation - writers kind of taking it easy on a Stelena fandom after a rough season 4 and 423 or smth along this. And I think you were right and now, when I see where they were and are going with the story, it all make sense to me. They knew from the end of S4 that S5 will end like this and planned it all in order to keep SE fandom intact and also leave Delena fandom kind of starved a little ))) so that DE'rs didn't lose interest cuz there are so many things they didn't get, but want to.
And now it's clear they aren't planning to revive the triangle so it wasn't the last Delena season. And I think that now we will get to SEE the "summer of their dreams" we were told about - in Elena's memories or dreams, because well Damon is gone for now and even though we'll see him with Bonnie being wherever they are, the audience still needs Delena-moments and that is a best way to give the viewers what they want! So we'll get some Delena-goodness, i'm sure, but It'll be sooo bittersweet and painful in a best way possible! Can't waaait!
Oh the only thing I didn't like much was the lack of Defan - I mean Damon planned all of this to bring Stefan back and when he was about to pass through Bonnie he only asked about Elena, they could've let him ask about whether his brother made it through as well, cuz that was the whole point of this "project Kaboom". )) But oh well, we got what we got.

Also, intrested about your thoughts on Matt/Caroline, but don't you think the close-up on Matt's phone was a product placement may be? Though I didn't pay much attention on that shot, so I'll better wait for your Take Two! Looking forward to reading it!
Arabian: Matt01arabian on May 19th, 2014 06:11 am (UTC)
I think they won't kill him twice and he'll have his happy ending in the series finale, he deserves it.

I agree. By doing this NOW, I think it does mean almost certainly that Damon (and Elena) will get their happy ending when the series ends (or at least Nina/Ian leave).

Hmm, I don't know if we'll get flashbacks to that happy summer, but that would be a great way to give us some Damon/Elena scenes while they're apart, you're absolutely right. A really great way to do it.

And now it's clear they aren't planning to revive the triangle so it wasn't the last Delena season.

Yup, Caroline Dries even talked about Stefan and Elena and their strong friendship. Uh huh!

I do wish that Damon had asked about Stefan and Elena making it through, but yeah ...

oh well, we got what we got.

Also, intrested about your thoughts on Matt/Caroline, but don't you think the close-up on Matt's phone was a product placement may be?

Nope. We didn't need to see that pic of Caroline for product placement. Think of it, we've never had a pic of anyone befor when we've seen their name before, only, well, their name. That was TOTALLY a Matt/Caroline reminder.

Though I didn't pay much attention on that shot, so I'll better wait for your Take Two!

I will be discussing Matt and Caroline in Take Two.

Looking forward to reading it!

I'll probably have it up Thursday or Friday. :)
(Anonymous) on May 18th, 2014 11:50 pm (UTC)
Guyz I'm miserable!It's been 3 dayz since I watch the home fucking episode n I cant stop crying cause of Damon's death why
HE WAZ THE ONLY REASON THAT I WATCHED THE SHOW
If he doezn come back I swear I'll quit watching et.
Arabian: Damon13arabian on May 19th, 2014 01:12 am (UTC)
It was already confirmed that he's coming back. And even if it hadn't been confirmed, really, there's no way that he wouldn't be coming back. Ian Somerhalder is THE most popular actor on the show. Combine every other actor on the show and they aren't as popular as him. Damon is THE most popular character. Combine all the other characters and they're probably not as popular as him. He's THAT popular. Not to mention that Ian is contractually obligated to appear in season 06.
(Anonymous) on May 19th, 2014 08:50 pm (UTC)
I am really interested to know how do you think the next seaman will start for Damon and Elena especially since there will be a huge time jump
Arabian: Elena01arabian on May 20th, 2014 04:57 am (UTC)
Honestly, I have no idea. I have some ideas of what will be happening with Damon. And I think that Elena will be one of those who is determined that they'll figure some way to bring them back, but I really don't know.
Matt: Ghidorahghidorah15 on June 14th, 2014 10:32 pm (UTC)
...so, if this isn't the actual post, what will the actual post entail?
Arabian: Alaric01arabian on June 15th, 2014 01:07 pm (UTC)
This was just a bullet list, really. My jotted down notes post isn't even complete (it only has a few squeeful thoughts on Damon/Elena and Stefan/Damon) and nothing on my theories) and it's already at nearly 3,000 words. I mean, this post isn't in paragraph, essay-style form which is how I write my posts 99.9% of the time, and definitely how I write my posts on episodes I love and finales. It's just without a time crunch (ie, not another episode for five months) and real life stuffs getting in the way, I haven't sat down and pulled it all together. My goal is to get it done this week or next, but hopefully this week. I do know that with only my jotted down notes--which are generally similar to something like this post but in less complete sentence form, with nicknames and shorthand thoughts that I can understand that would leave most people going "whu huh?!"--it's already, like I said above, at nearly 3,000 words... and it's not complete. So it will probably be a fairly massive post, with gifs.

That's another reason I haven't finished it yet. It's gonna take a long time to do.
Matt: Ghidorahghidorah15 on June 15th, 2014 04:06 pm (UTC)
Wow. Sounds like it's going to be the magnum opus of your posts.
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on June 15th, 2014 07:02 pm (UTC)
Butting in to add that an opus is more than fine with me! Just so long as you're doing it. :D
(Anonymous) on June 27th, 2014 09:37 am (UTC)
Hi there :) Just wanted to thank you for all your insight throughout the season and keeping me positive. Season 5 was a very hard season for me to get through so it was nice to come here and have your take on it. A couple of times I even came here just to read what you had to say in lieu of me actually getting through the entire episode --the whole "Katherine is inside Elena isn't it a gas?" storyline and Caroline's one note/regressive characterization minus any moments of self-awareness were slogs for me personally and had the serious potential to be final straws if I hadn't visited your blog and been kumbaya'ed into a happier head space. So, due in no small part to this, I reaaaallly enjoyed the finale. Loved it! I'm looking forward to reading your more 'epic' article discussing the episode although I also completely understand about taking a hiatus for yourself while you can.
Arabian: Damon & Elena41arabian on August 3rd, 2014 12:36 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the season more. I understand why they did the Elena/Katherine story as I feel it really, really helped with Damon and Stefan's relationship and also really helped Stefan see that he was over Elena. And it also helped move forward the Stefan/Caroline story by showing Caroline that she actually didn't want to see Stefan and Elena back together. And I also don't agree that Caroline was one note or that her character regressed. In fact, this season was so much better for Caroline as a character than the last couple where she mostly was just "the girl" to Tyler and/or Klaus, I was thrilled!

But, anyhoo, I'm glad my journal could help you with the show overall. Hopefully you can enjoy next season overall and I hope that my long-awaited finale write-up was worth the wait.
Alisha: Janellekalishaka on November 17th, 2014 12:58 am (UTC)
I'm going to post my initial reactions here...because well it's the initial reaction post and I need time to calm down before I can get all deep and reflecting.

I would sum this episode up as "The worst day The Gilberts have ever had....and they have had a lot of really shitty days."

Half of the Two (7:34:56 PM): FUCK FUCK EVERYTHING
Half of the Two (7:36:13 PM): FUCKING LEXIE
Half of the Two (7:36:19 PM): NO
Half of the Two (7:36:20 PM): FUCK NO
Half of the Two (7:39:54 PM): STEFAN I CANNOT
Half of the Two (7:40:59 PM): NO HE WAS BAD ENOUGH
Half of the Two (7:41:02 PM): ELENA I FUCKING CANNOT
Half of the Two (7:43:17 PM): ALARIC HOLDING HER AS SHE SOBS
Half of the Two (7:43:19 PM): OH JESUS
Half of the Two (7:45:05 PM): OH JESUS THEY ENDED ON A FUCKING WHITE SCREEN
Half of the Two (7:45:07 PM): FUCK YOU SHOW

I share this because this is literally the stream of nonsense I sent my best friend while watching because I was trying not to spoil her and also apparently when I am openly sobbing I forget to use real words.

While I knew this was heading here....I had no idea who it was going to get there, and got that was painful. And I loooooved it so much. I loved that they brought so many people back. I love how genuine it felt. I love that Lexie's peace came. I love that Alaric is back. I love that Stefan only came back because he went to help Bonnie. I love that Bonnie knew and called Jeremy. I loved that Jeremy just ran, knowing, but running anyway. I loved that Damon touched Elena and she could feel it. I loved that speech. And more than anything I love that Alaric is who they sent to hold her. I love that Damon stopped everything to help Liz. I love the end scene where he and Bonnie take hands because having each other is better than no one. I loved everything! And god was it painful. Easily the most painful finale/finale lead up since season two. Because losing Jenna still guts me. And also, I missed Jenna. Like I completely understand why they picked the characters to come through like they did, but Jenna! Also GRAMS! I adore Jasmine Guy forever and always. She was perfect. And it was such a simple yet almost unexpected fix to their ending. Grams still looking out for Bonnie. Stefan falling apart on Caroline. Everyone was soo good this episode. Maybe not Tyler...but he's never good so you know. But seriously I love this show. I loved that they brought their actors back. I loved that they just went there and everything worked. And now I will end my giant run on of feelings and go forth and attempt to compose myself.