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07 March 2014 @ 12:23 am
5.15 - 'Gone Girl' (The Vampire Diaries)  
Well, here's the last episode of Vampire Diaries until March 20! Wah! Ah well, such is life (amidst stupid unexpected winter storms in Georgia!).

Another episode and I continue to enjoy the heck out of the season. Once I came to a reasonable explanation for why we got less Damon/Elena sexytiems than I expected in the first half of the seasons, I really have no major complaints and am really happy with the narrative overall. And this episode was another really great one. I just have one teeny quibble, an inconsistency in the timeline. However, considering that it came from Stefan—he who tends to overdramatize thing, I'm choosing to just put it down to Stefan being Stefan. (See random thoughts for that little bit there.)

First off… Katherine. I didn't think that the 100th episode should have revolved around a recurring episode, and furthermore, I didn't think that it was the strongest episode that had revolved around that particular recurring character. This potentially (and likely) the last episode to revolve around Katherine was much, much stronger and I liked it a lot more. She didn't get a happy ending at all and that was fine by me, because she didn't deserve a happy ending at all. Katherine Pierce a.k.a. Katerina Petrova made selfish, cruel, downright cruel choices time and time again for five hundred years. It was simply who she was.

She destroyed lives, she wrecked relationships, she tortured and killed people, and she made a misery out of those she claimed to love. She was simply terrible. And in the end, she threw away the chance to be with her daughter just so she could get the hollow and fake love of a man she didn't even truly love who wasn't even truly in love with the woman that she was pretending to be to get the love that she was seeking. Oy! Wrap your head around that one! She came this close to killing Elena forever (and took over her body, violating it in the process), did kill Mia, the Traveler, attempted to get Damon killed, broke his heart which inadvertently led to Aaron getting killed, not to mention Wes Maxfield and the other individuals that were turned into vampires and then killed and eaten by Damon. (Although to be fair those are on Damon, even if Katherine was indirectly a push there. Damon made the ultimate decision to kill all of those people and he would take responsibility for those deaths.) Bottom-line, Katherine is a bad, bad person. She did not deserve a happy ending. And, honestly, well, I guess I do have one other tiny quibble, I don't think she deserved to die with Stefan's kiss on her lips, even if it came with a stab to her gut because I don't think she deserved even that kiss. Not after all she had done. Nope. But at least she knew him even allowing that kiss was just a way to catch her off-guard enough to deliver the fatal blow.

Don't get me wrong, I've loved the character of Katherine from the first introduction of her to her last moment on screen scrabbling for purchase as she was sucked into hell (?), but she deserved to go. Bitch needed to go. It was time. This season, I've actually freaking adored her and there's a part of me that will always think of what could have been had they gone a completely different route and had decided to redeem a human!Katherine who had found her soul, friendship, then maybe love with Matt Donovan, humanity in her new human self.

But as she said to Matty Blue: "Oh well." Yeah, Katherine and Matt…

 
 

You knew I couldn't resist gif-fing my last Matt/Katherine moments ever, right? His little eyebrow raise when she said he couldn't have stabbed her? Her telling him that she was the only one among them who appreciated how beautiful he was. How he was the best night she never had, their mutual 'oh wells.' Man, oh, man… what could have been! *sigh* What could have been, indeed! I will always hold a place in my heart for Matty Blue and human!Katherine. *double sigh*

Also sigh-worthy? The moment when Elena (HALLELUJAH!) started to wake up and Damon got all wide-eyed and hopeful looking, this soft mushness coming over his face. And he whispered her name with such tenderness. And then when she finally woke up and she saw Damon, focusing on him and her eyes were all soft and full of such love and she said "Hi," and his face was all gooey and it was just gah ………………………

 

SO MUCH LOVE! And it was like Stefan wasn't even there for a moment because they were just seeing each other and it was so beautiful and I love them so much and it's Damon and it's Elena and Damon AND Elena, and you guys it's ELENA! It's FINALLY Elena. Elena is back! My beautiful, wonderful, non-evil, precious, precious, wonderful, wonderful Elena Gilbert is back. THANK YOU, BABY JESUS! ELENA, HOW YOU HAVE BEEN MISSED! And Katherine Fucking Pierce has been banished to hell!

Right? Katherine was totally sent to hell by the witches? Right? That's totes what happened? The witches were all, 'Nah, we don't want that bish hanging round here. She's even too nasty for all of us. We let her in here, she'll come up with some mess and get everyone all riled up here on the other side and get all the guys fighting each other, cause some rebellion and get the warlocks coming up with some spells and the next thing you know they'll be opening doors to the real world and Katherine will be stepping through causing havoc and it will be chaos. That girl ain't stepping foot over here! Nuh uh! Begone with you, honey! Into the pit of hell with that one.'

You know what I'm saying? This *is* Katherine we're talking about. Totes believable. Also believable were her final words before her death. When I had imagined it, it was always much more dramatic and just featured Katherine, Stefan and Damon, but the snarkiness did fit her better honestly and everyone letting her have her say also fit simply because they *are* good people and they had just watched Nadia die and had seen Katherine wrecked about that. So they were giving her this because, gosh darn't, they are nice people too. And, Damon, well, Damon just doesn't give a damn about Katherine anymore.

Which she still hasn't quite grasped. She gave her whole long, biting spiel about how she created him and gave him purpose. She told him that she taught him how to love, how to desire, that he would have been nothing, a nobody without her, blah, blah, blah, intending to hurt him and all she did was show him that she still doesn't get it. Katherine can't hurt him anymore. He doesn't care about her. What she says or doesn't no longer has the power to hurt him. The only way she effects him is by how spectacularly she fails in having any happiness at the end of her life.

She dies all alone, the only person who cares about her dead because of Katherine's complete and utter selfishness and cluelessness about other people's feelings. And that is what Damon takes to heart. So instead of running away, like Katherine always did (albeit for different reasons), as Damon was planning to do, he's staying. Of course, Katherine always ran to save herself. Damon ran to save those he loved from being hurt by him. Big difference and one that Katherine could never understand. But this time, yeah, Damon is staying not to hurt them, but so that they can heal together. To see it through and let the chips fall where they may.

Way back when this arc began I had said when Katherine possessed Elena that it was a very predictable twist but that I was OK with it as long as I got some great character development and wonderful storytelling out of it. I really believe that I have. I feel that Damon and Stefan have grown separately and together and I absolutely love that. And I am incredibly excited to see where we will go from here with these two. I really, really am. I feel that Stefan has taken some strong strides in where he stands with his brother and that Damon has taken some important steps with regards to himself and where he needs to be, and hopefully we'll begin to see some kind of adjustment with the others as well. We'll see.

Onto randoms …

- OK, this may be because I'm not terribly fond of Nadia or Olga Fonda's portrayal of her (although to be fair, I think I'd like Nadia if she were played by an actress I liked and one who could, you know, act), but were the Nadia flashbacks necessary like, uhm, at all? Yeah, didn't think so.

- So, yeah, hah, Damon's reaction to finding out that it was Katherine who ripped his heart into a million pieces and thus his ensuing reaction was all based on Katherine ripping his heart into a million pieces and not Elena was basically a big, fat shell-shocked 'what the hell am I going to do? I am so screwed.'

- That quibble I mentioned at the top was how Stefan said that Katherine had been pretending to be Elena for weeks, but then later Bonnie mentioned to Liv that they needed her to do the same locator spell she had done the other night—which matches up with the timeline that matches up with everything else that makes more sense and fits with what we know which is about 3-4 days since Katherine possessed Elena (as opposed to uhm, weeks). Yeah. So, just Stefan being overdramatic and Damon not calling him on it.

- I loved how they were all talking about not picking up on it being Katherine. First defending themselves, but she did this which is so Elena-like, and then listing all the things that are Elena-like before listing more things that were obviously NOT Elena-like before they just kinda trailed off because DUH! as Caroline said they're the worst friends ever! Hah! I love when the show calls them out on their shit! They were too busy dealing with their own stuff and ignoring the fact that "Elena" was acting off and instead coming up with excuses because they simply didn't want to deal with yet more Elena drama.

- Speaking of Caroline, I love her, I do, but I can't help but think of what a hypocrite she is (and I can't but think that every Damon fan thinks this as well) when she or anyone else goes on about her seeing the good in people, or she makes any reference to seeing the good in Klaus… BECAUSE she refuses to see the good in Damon. The fact that she continues to say and act as if Damon is the most EVUL ever but then says and acts like she sees the good in others is just so beyond hypocritical. Show, I love you like no other, but you need to freaking address the Damon/Caroline situation like SO NOW!!!!

- Speaking of Damon, bahahahaha! I was grinning so much during the scene between him and Tyler because it was so obvious that he was baiting Tyler and Tyler was so very stupid that he was incapable of picking up on it. It just re-affirmed my belief from a few episodes ago that, yup, when Matt hangs with Tyler, the stupid sets in because clearly the stupid comes from one Tyler Lockwood and it sadly Matt is not immune. I mean, really, could Damon have *been* more obvious. Nope! But still Tyler fell for it like so easily. I ♥ you so, Damon Salvatore.

- You know, I liked Liv in her introduction the other episode, but not so much in this one. I mean, getting her flirt on with Jeremy knowing he has a girlfriend was bad enough, knowing his girlfriend made it even worse, and right in front of his girlfriend made it ten times worse, but then acting like it was no big? GURL!!!!! Really? I just was not impressed. Like at all. Bonnie, you may not be a witch, but you can still take her down, Bonnie Badger!

- As for Damon torturing and killing Wes, I suppose I should feel bad about it, but I really don't. Wes tortured and killed tons of people as far as we know. He took innocent Jesse and destroyed his young life. Kidnapped and messed up Damon. Kidnapped Elena and was planning on torturing her. Injected Damon with a cannibalistic serum, was planning on doing the same to Nadia in the guise of helping her. And he tortured Enzo we don't know for how many years. Wes was a sick, twisted, evil sadistic fuck.

- Nadia is dead. YES! Please, may I never have to see Olga Fonda grace my beloved Vampire Diaries again. Kthanxbai! :)

- Ugh, ugh, ugh! The Tyler/Caroline discussion did NOT make me happy. Show, do not do this to me. I cannot deal with another round of those two. Please, pretty, pretty please. Caroline becomes beyond lame with Tyler. And boring. And he treats her terribly. And she TOLD him that if he chose revenge over her, they were done. PERIOD. Fine, let them be friends, but damnit, the romance better be OVER! Grrr.

- OK, Damon called Katherine "Kitty-Kat." How has he never called her that before? And is that not wickedly adorable?

- Damon's "I'll see you in Hell, Kat." I sure hope that was just foreshadowing for where Katherine was going, not my bb, Damon!

- OK, I get the point of the Katherine/Nadia pretty pretend fantasy, but I kept thinking of when Damon did it for Rose and it just felt like a rip-off of that scene and that one just felt so much more genuine. And I can't even say it's because I cared more for Rose than I do Nadia. Yes, I dearly wanted Nadia dead and she's so beyond not my favorite, but I certainly wasn't overly fond of Rose and I wasn't impressed with Lauren Cohan's portrayal of her character either. I just felt that the parallelism here didn't do it for me. Or maybe I just really care *that* little for Nadia. :shrug:

- Did Jeremy (Steven R. McQueen) get a haircut? I think he did. It looks good.

Well, that's all she wrote. I quite, quite enjoyed the episode. I'm quite, quite loving the season and I am quite, quite sad that I have to wait TWO weeks to see Damon and Elena (ELENA!) make out. It's been a long time! WHEE! Lovely preview is lovely!
 
 
 
Florencia: DE (I Died)florencia7 on March 7th, 2014 11:07 am (UTC)
The promo just about erased my ability to type anything coherent right now! LOL! But two weeks!!! How are we going to survive this?!?

I did think that the dream Katherine gave Nadia was a not-so-subtle rip-off of the Damon/Rose scene, but what saved it for me was Nadia repeating "I'm looking for my mother" line. This also made the flashbacks seem not so pointless. Well, they *were* kind of pointless, but in the end they seemed to be all pointing to that one, recurring sentence & it worked for me overall.

I actually thought that Liv flirting with Jeremy was a good move, writing-wise, because it provided a logical reason why she'd be helping them with so little explanations on their part and no threats involved. Besides, I have a feeling Liv won't stick around for long.

“Damon's "I'll see you in Hell, Kat." I sure hope that was just foreshadowing for where Katherine was going, not my bb, Damon!” - Ha, way to create an additional incentive for Damon to steer clear from the dark side.

I do believe Caroline & Tyler are over for good. But what are they going to do with Tyler?! I think it's really a perfect moment for him to die. He has no storyline whatsoever and if the next season is going to be the last (are we going to get a confirmation of/against that this year??), at least one regular has to die this season.

Oh dear. The number of students in Stefan's “How To Be a Good Ripper” class is growing higher by the minute lol Is Enzo going to join in?? Hmm... I'm really excited to see what the writers will do with ripper!Elena. There are so many ways in which this storyline can go.

LOVED reading your thoughts as always ♥

Eta: I just saw that the sole writer for 5x16 is Caroline Dries & this made me ridiculously cheerful for some reason haha

Edited at 2014-03-09 01:39 am (UTC)
Arabian: Damon & Elena36arabian on March 11th, 2014 04:07 am (UTC)
The promo just about erased my ability to type anything coherent right now! LOL! But two weeks!!! How are we going to survive this?!?

Tell me about it! I've watched it about a gazillion times! And I switched out the version I have for the extended one which adds about one more second to the kiss where he pulls her a bit more and she looks like she's reaching for him!

I did think that the dream Katherine gave Nadia was a not-so-subtle rip-off of the Damon/Rose scene, but what saved it for me was Nadia repeating "I'm looking for my mother" line. This also made the flashbacks seem not so pointless. Well, they *were* kind of pointless, but in the end they seemed to be all pointing to that one, recurring sentence & it worked for me overall.

Ah, that's a good point. I'll bear that in mind when I rewatch the episode.

But what are they going to do with Tyler?!

I'm wondering if he'll be used as a way to make Stefan jealous? Hmmm........... Awaken Stefan to realizing some latent-Caroline-shaped feelings?!?!??!

I think it's really a perfect moment for him to die. He has no storyline whatsoever and if the next season is going to be the last (are we going to get a confirmation of/against that this year??), at least one regular has to die this season.

YES, LET TYLER DIE PLZKTHANXBAI! As for next year being the last, I've heard conflicting reports, so who knows?

Eta: I just saw that the sole writer for 5x16 is Caroline Dries & this made me ridiculously cheerful for some reason haha

I wish I didn't know this now! I don't want to get my hopes up! EEK!!!!
bangel_4e: elena3bangel_4e on March 7th, 2014 02:25 pm (UTC)
I agree this was a wonderful episode...Been loving TVD so much lately and I enjoyed the heck of out this episode...except for the Nadia flashbacks, those were kinda useless.,..I guess they wanted to tie that with her search for her mom and Katherine's reaction and blah blah blah...I guess it didn't bother me that much in the end..but I would've been fine without them.

Katherine always has been and will always be one of my favorite characters from TVD. No matter what she did, I love her. But it was just time for her to go. It's a bold step but it needed to be done even if ( I agree with you on this) there's a part of me that will always think of what could have been had they gone a completely different route and had decided to redeem a human!Katherine who had found her soul, friendship, then maybe love with Matt Donovan, humanity in her new human self.
We will never know.

Oh, let's talk about Damon & Elena. Oh my, I loved that she looked at him first when she woke up. I love that amazingly sweet moment between them. It was perfect, nothing over the top, but just a soft smile, the reassurance, the love....ah, perfection. Thanks TVD for this...I missed these two crazy kids.


The fact that she continues to say and act as if Damon is the most EVUL ever but then says and acts like she sees the good in others is just so beyond hypocritical. Show, I love you like no other, but you need to freaking address the Damon/Caroline situation like SO NOW!!!
Agreed 100%. I was rolling my eyes so hard during that scene. After what Caroline said, it's impossible that she can't see the good in Damon. Especially since she saw it in Katherine and Klaus and they've done worse than Damon.
And speaking of that scene, can Tyler please go somewhere and never come back? I can't imagine WHY he'd wanna stick around MF now & how stupid he is, falling for Damon's attempt to get him in the cell? Come on, anyone could've known what he was up to.



You know, I liked Liv in her introduction the other episode, but not so much in this one. I mean, getting her flirt on with Jeremy knowing he has a girlfriend was bad enough, knowing his girlfriend made it even worse, and right in front of his girlfriend made it ten times worse, but then acting like it was no big? GURL!!!!! Really? I just was not impressed. Like at all. Bonnie, you may not be a witch, but you can still take her down, Bonnie Badger!
AH, THAT BITCH!!! Ugh, I was so pissed off at her. And they do need a witch, so I expect some drama and I want Bonnie to kick her stupid ass-.-



-As for Damon torturing and killing Wes, I suppose I should feel bad about it, but I really don't. Wes tortured and killed tons of people as far as we know. He took innocent Jesse and destroyed his young life. Kidnapped and messed up Damon. Kidnapped Elena and was planning on torturing her. Injected Damon with a cannibalistic serum, was planning on doing the same to Nadia in the guise of helping her. And he tortured Enzo we don't know for how many years. Wes was a sick, twisted, evil sadistic fuck.
I don't care either. He was awful and crazy and sadistic and he got what he deserved.


So, two weeks uh? I don't know how we can resist. So, since the preview is up there I guess it's safe to talk about it (just those scenes of course). Well, it looks like we're in for another great episode. I agree with florencia7 though...I can't type now, the scene knocked me over....too much delena goodness.
Arabian: Damon & Elena25arabian on March 11th, 2014 04:58 am (UTC)
except for the Nadia flashbacks, those were kinda useless.

The whole "Where is my mother" throughout the episode and Nadia's inability to find her tied into her inability to see and thus have Katherine right in front of her at the end, I see now as pointed out by others, but as I don't care about Nadia I just don't care.

but I would've been fine without them.

Ditto.

Katherine always has been and will always be one of my favorite characters from TVD. No matter what she did, I love her. But it was just time for her to go. It's a bold step but it needed to be done even if ( I agree with you on this) there's a part of me that will always think of what could have been had they gone a completely different route and had decided to redeem a human!Katherine who had found her soul, friendship, then maybe love with Matt Donovan, humanity in her new human self. We will never know.

Yup, yup, yup. This so very hard all around.

So, since the preview is up there I guess it's safe to talk about it (just those scenes of course).

I do watch the previews (that's all I watch), but I do watch those. And this one (well, part of it), I've watched a gazillion times! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Matt: Ghidorahghidorah15 on March 7th, 2014 05:16 pm (UTC)
"I suppose I should feel bad about it" - Mmm, nah, I'm pretty sure we're supposed to be glad that bastard is gone. Rot in Hell, Wes Maxfield! Maybe you and Katherine can share a bunk. :P

It is so good to have Elena back, even if it's only for a quick scene at the end so far and she has the enhanced Ripper virus in her blood. And of course she only had eyes for Damon - stupid Katherine can't comprehend that they have true love, not so-called epic wuv. *snort*

Caroline...well, I see your point, yes. I'm hoping that her Damon-hate really is dying now that she has no choice but to see how happy he makes Elena and vice-versa. On the other hand, I was thrilled she told Tyler Smallwood - I mean Lockwood - off like that. Yay! It's about time that asshole got verbally shut down! Now can Enzo or one of the Travelers or someone kill him, pretty please? With a dead Katherine on top?

Heh...I guess I am going on about Elena's much older evil twin getting her just desserts. I enjoyed her as a villain, but that's not the same thing as loving her - it's loving to hate her. And since she's the one who injected Elena's body with that serum so the poor girl would start craving vampires, out of sheer petty, selfish spite (You don't deserve Elena's life, bitch!), I shed no tears for her demise, let alone her evidently being thrown into Hell by the witches while Bonnie watched. (I guess those self-righteous, bloodthirsty and power-hungry fanatics are good for something.) Buh-bye, Katerina Petrova! May you never be seen or heard from and never darken a doorway again! :D

Oh, yeah, and Liv needs to keep her claws off Jeremy. Still, hopefully she won't stick around for too long.
Arabian: Bonnie01arabian on March 11th, 2014 05:17 am (UTC)
On the other hand, I was thrilled she told Tyler Smallwood - I mean Lockwood - off like that. Yay! It's about time that asshole got verbally shut down!

It really is. Really, really! I'm hoping that Tyler's point in sticking around now is to make Stefan jealous and to awaken his Caroline-shaped feelings!

Now can Enzo or one of the Travelers or someone kill him, pretty please? With a dead Katherine on top?

Just let someone kill him, pretty, pretty please! It's not too much to ask, is it?

Buh-bye, Katerina Petrova! May you never be seen or heard from and never darken a doorway again! :D

Caroline Dries did confirm that they sent Katherine to a version of "Hell" because others have come back from the Other Side before and this was a way to make it clear that Katherine Pierce is NOT coming back. So ding dong, the bitch is dead! Hell to the yeah!

Oh, yeah, and Liv needs to keep her claws off Jeremy. Still, hopefully she won't stick around for too long.

Yeah, I had hope for her in her last appearance, but that's alllllllllllll gone now.
jairem08: pic#122702267jairem08 on March 7th, 2014 10:20 pm (UTC)
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....that is me recovering from the preview! I never watch those. Only did so because you did post it and..... yeah still recovering. I honestly hope this is what we will get on the next episode and there is not some kind of baiting there. We had some of those before.

Anyhow, I only managed to watch episode 14 today just before I proceeded with 15. So will only comment here if ok. I'm so happy that I follow your rule of not following on spoilers and completely cut myself from tumlbr etc. Sooo much better. I mentioned a few times already. I'm enjoying the show so much more and my heart is lighter and happier.

So Katherine is gone. I worried a bit at the end when she couldn't pass through Bonnie that there might be again another "obstacle" that would stop her from dying but at the end I'm pretty sure she went straight to hell. At last. Though just like you I did enjoy her this season. Nina did amazing job portraying her. I cracked up so many times during her scenes. But she messed around with Elena and the boys too much. It was her time to go.

Talking about the boys - I think it is safe to say that they are on a way to be closer than ever. fighting for each other and respecting each other. I haven't been annoyed with Stefan for several episodes now. He really loves Damon and will do anything to help and save him. Episode 14 - him not betraying Damon with Elena (hotel scene) and him not killing Damon at Elena's "suggestion".

Damon's heart was again broken while he was thinking that Elena wanted him killed. I'm sure he must have been kind of relieved when he was told that it was Katherine who screwed him around. But now he will have to deal with the consequences of his short fuse. I'm thinking the part of the preview where Elena says she can't stop loving him is after they argue over what he did and screwed up during this Elena possession period.

Cannot wait how will they deal with this DE ripper situation. Are they going to become Bonnie and Clyde of ripperdom? Or can they actually be a threat to each other with their vampire blood lust? My brain is a bit muddled at this stage. The rest of the season will most likely deal with this problem and I'm ready as long as there is some sweet DE loving at the end.

Stefan stabbing Katherine out of Elena's body thus sending her to her end - poignant. I hoped it would be him and wasn't disappointed.

Caroline - yep still a hypocrite but I will hope that the writers are heading somewhere with her constant bashing of Damon.

I think she and Tyler might be over. I want to believe that we are heading for Steroline but sometimes I still am not sure. Don't know why.

Bonnie has really been looking good lately.

I actually found Nadia's departure sad. I did feel sorry for her.

As always I enjoyed your review and also all the comments of your followers. I always come out of this feeling better and ready for more.

Oh - and I just love my Damon!!!!! That will be my constant.

(oh - re episode 14 hotel scene - don't you think the music they used for the scene was a bit soft porny? Maybe it is me? but it was fun : ))
Arabian: Damon12arabian on March 11th, 2014 05:24 am (UTC)
I honestly hope this is what we will get on the next episode and there is not some kind of baiting there. We had some of those before.

Honestly, I'm fine if that's the case because we still have seven episodes to go. There's a lot of stuff to get through. I'm just happy regardless of the crazy mayhem Damon's pulled, Elena can't help but still be crazy in love with him and they're making out.

So will only comment here if ok.

Aww, I'd prefer if you have the time to comment on there too... It takes a lot of time to write these up and the depressingly low number of comments is well... depressing.

[...]completely cut myself from tumlbr etc. Sooo much better. I mentioned a few times already. I'm enjoying the show so much more and my heart is lighter and happier.

Yup, that cesspool of negativity is EVUL! Just staying away from it all has made me enjoy the show so much more overall. I'm LOVING it. :D

at the end I'm pretty sure she went straight to hell. At last.

Yup, Caroline Dries confirmed it. "It's unlike anything we've seen before. We've seen characters appear to Bonnie (Kat Graham]) the anchor, and go through Bonnie and that's their initiation into the other side. When Katherine died, that didn't happen and [instead] she's ripped out of Bonnie's arms and sucked into wherever by some dark void. We don't say anything religious like Heaven or Hell, but that's the implication—she's going to a dark world. I don't think we'll explore it so much as in the future, we'll use something similar happening like that on the other side where it becomes a bit of disarray over there and people get sucked into oblivion," Dries says. "What we wanted when we were writing the Katherine story line this season was to really deliver on her as a character. This show is known for bringing people back to the dead, so death didn't ever feel final; they could hop over from the other side if we feel desperate. So we wanted to say, 'No, she's gone.'"

So, yeah, she is GONE!

Though just like you I did enjoy her this season. Nina did amazing job portraying her. I cracked up so many times during her scenes. But she messed around with Elena and the boys too much. It was her time to go.

EXACTLY!

I haven't been annoyed with Stefan for several episodes now.

He's still riding his A+ from when he punched Tyler for me. :D

I'm thinking the part of the preview where Elena says she can't stop loving him is after they argue over what he did and screwed up during this Elena possession period.

Me too.

Stefan stabbing Katherine out of Elena's body thus sending her to her end - poignant. I hoped it would be him and wasn't disappointed.

My thoughts exactly.

I think she and Tyler might be over. I want to believe that we are heading for Steroline but sometimes I still am not sure. Don't know why.

I'm hoping this will tie in together and that they will use this Tyler/Caroline situation for Stefan to get jealous and it will awaken Caroline-shaped feelings in Stefan.

As always I enjoyed your review and also all the comments of your followers. I always come out of this feeling better and ready for more.

Good to know. :)

(oh - re episode 14 hotel scene - don't you think the music they used for the scene was a bit soft porny? Maybe it is me? but it was fun : ))

Definitely. Nothing romantic or sweet there, LOL!
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La vida de lloronalaudanumdream on March 8th, 2014 05:26 am (UTC)
OK, I get the point of the Katherine/Nadia pretty pretend fantasy, but I kept thinking of when Damon did it for Rose and it just felt like a rip-off of that scene and that one just felt so much more genuine. And I can't even say it's because I cared more for Rose than I do Nadia. Yes, I dearly wanted Nadia dead and she's so beyond not my favorite, but I certainly wasn't overly fond of Rose and I wasn't impressed with Lauren Cohan's portrayal of her character either. I just felt that the parallelism here didn't do it for me. Or maybe I just really care *that* little for Nadia. :shrug:

I feel like it was directly related to the Damon/Rose moment, but the dichotomy is that immediately after with Damon/Rose she died and you felt bad. Immediately before the perfect day it was all about Katherine being a murderer and a liar. I don't think it was as resonant as the Rose moment, but it wasn't supposed to be.

And naturally, Rose's whole suffering was because of Katherine too!
Arabian: Katherine01arabian on March 11th, 2014 05:12 am (UTC)
I see what you're saying, but that doesn't quite work for me, however florencia7 pointed out that Nadia [kept] repeating "I'm looking for my mother" throughout the episode and that made me realize that Nadia's inability to find Katherine tied into her inability to see and thus have Katherine right in front of her at the end, I see that poignancy now, but as I don't care about Nadia I just don't, well, care.

And, honestly, I just didn't feel that bad after Rose died because frankly I didn't care all that much for her either. And I still don't get why Damon cared all that much about this random chick who threatened Elena's life, showed up and squatted in their home and he screwed a few times. Sure they became friends of sorts, and she decided to take the wolf bite for him, but the whole death bed thing? He knew her for like two seconds and she threatened Elena's life! I guess I get him doing it for her for her taking the bite for him, but being all emo and crying over it? Yeah, still don't get that.

And naturally, Rose's whole suffering was because of Katherine too!

Actually, no. Rose chose to stay loyal to Trevor who chose to be loyal to his loins which chose to be loyal to Katerina. Katherine was a fairly innocent young woman who was desperately trying to save her life from a psychotic vampire who was trying to sacrifice her for his own crazy-ass means and Rose made her own choices. Katherine did not cause Rose's suffering. Katherine is the cause of many a person's suffering, but Rose's is not at Katherine's door.
tj2013tj2013 on March 8th, 2014 08:00 pm (UTC)
Thanks again for putting all your thoughts into words - it’s always a pleasure to read your posts and your journal is the first thing I usually go to after watching the episode.
I agree with everything, although I didn’t mind Liv that much. She is annoying, but Bonnie and Jeremy have come a long way, she won’t be able to come between them so quickly. And YES, Jer got a haircut. Looks really nice.
Kat, I think, is in hell. At least she’s not on the other side. I was worried for a second during her talk with bonnie that she could pull off another survival somehow, but I really loved how she went down. And Nina played it so well!
About the promo: OMG – please let it be real and not a trap for all the DE-Fans. You know, showing the kiss and then pulling the rug from under our feet… let’s hope we will be able to enjoy this particular moment.
I read Elena is also a ripper now? Did I miss something? I thought she was injected with the werewolf-venom Wes extracted from Nadia, but then I have to watch it again. Although, if they are both vampire-eating vampires they could just give each other their blood and we all know the perks of bloodsharing, right?
The moment Damon and Elena (yay, finally RealElena is back!!!!) looked at each other …. so sweet.
Geez, Silas and Amara seem so far away, were they really the big issue at the beginning of this very season? But I love the character developments so far.
The dream didn't impress me much, but for me the Damon/Rose dream ist one of my favorite scenes ever, especially Damon's face outside the dream. Ian was soooo good in this scene.
Arabian: Damon07arabian on March 11th, 2014 04:19 am (UTC)
Thank you for your sweet words. :)

Kat, I think, is in hell.

Yeah, Caroline Dries confirmed that she's in a sorta Hell. And she ain't coming back.

About the promo: OMG – please let it be real and not a trap for all the DE-Fans. You know, showing the kiss and then pulling the rug from under our feet… let’s hope we will be able to enjoy this particular moment.

Honestly, I'm fine either way because we still have seven episodes to go. There's a lot of stuff to get through. I'm just happy regardless of the crazy mayhem Damon's pulled, Elena can't help but still be crazy in love with him and they're making out.

I read Elena is also a ripper now? Did I miss something? I thought she was injected with the werewolf-venom Wes extracted from Nadia, but then I have to watch it again.

Yeah, Wes used the werewolf venom to somehow make a stronger ripper serum somehow. Mad scientist and all that.

Although, if they are both vampire-eating vampires they could just give each other their blood and we all know the perks of bloodsharing, right?

That's the dream, LOL!

Geez, Silas and Amara seem so far away, were they really the big issue at the beginning of this very season?

I'm still not sure that the doppelganger story isn't going to come back around.

But I love the character developments so far.

Me too.
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Bogwitch: TVD - Katherinebogwitch on March 11th, 2014 02:36 pm (UTC)
I am finally getting off my arse to comment. I had a comment for 514 deleted in a laptop crash and I lost heart.

I enjoyed this ep very much, but I’m not sure it’s one I’ll go back to a lot. I am going to miss Katherine, I think she shapes the show. It will be a shame that she won’t be around. I’m not sure about this ‘hell’ business though, that seems just a bit convenient and out of left-field, put there for the drama of the moment. She might deserve it, but so do many others; it all just smacks of bending the rules. I would quibble that she did have some small redemption though; she did choose to come back for Nadia when she could have run.

I don’t care what Dries said, I still think there is potential for her to return though, especially given the unusual ending she was given. I just hope that if so, that’s a while off

And how exactly does Tyler still have his head on still? Hmm. I wonder if he prove part of a cure?


Arabian: Katherine06arabian on March 12th, 2014 06:31 am (UTC)
I will miss Katherine, but I disagree, I don't think she shapes the show at all. I think she just injected some snarky fun and shenanigans into it. Elena shapes the show. Damon shapes the show. The others provide some nuance and background noise, but those two characters are the ying, yang, push and pull of this show. Period. Full-stop. Regardless of what she said to Damon, she did not create who he is. Damon created who Damon is. He actions, reactions to what others--yes, including Katherine (strongly, but his father and Stefan more so)--did created and shaped the man he was and is.

[...] that seems just a bit convenient and out of left-field, put there for the drama of the moment. She might deserve it, but so do many others

Of all of the others we've actually seen die, none of them have actually done worse than Katherine though. Or are manipulative and conniving enough to possibly find a way out of the Other Side like Katherine conceivably could and haven't blackmailed and used and abused witches for 500 years as Katherine Pierce has. So, yeah, it all worked perfectly for me, because witches created and rule the Other Side... they decide who enters.

And how exactly does Tyler still have his head on still?

Lord knows.
MaelJ0714: necklacemaelj0714 on March 12th, 2014 05:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for the link to the promo. WHOO HOO!!

Loved, loved this episode! I have to say, last week’s episode was a little disappointing (I wasn’t too enthused about commenting on it, but after reading your response to jairem08, may go back to that one). TVD really redeemed themselves with this one. It had so many gasp-worthy moments. Just loved it!

First off… Katherine. I didn't think that the 100th episode should have revolved around a recurring episode, and furthermore, I didn't think that it was the strongest episode that had revolved around that particular recurring character. This potentially (and likely) the last episode to revolve around Katherine was much, much stronger and I liked it a lot more.

I couldn’t agree with you more, about Katherine, the 100th episode, or her final send-off. The ending was ominous and spooky-scary. Very fitting for her, I thought. I liked that it was reminiscent of early episodes when victims were being yanked up into the great nothingness by some unknown evil. Mwahahaha!!! Although back then it was Damon, of course. ;-D

And then when she finally woke up and she saw Damon, focusing on him and her eyes were all soft and full of such love and she said "Hi," and his face was all gooey and it was just gah

So good. Who ever thought Elena could give up on Damon and their relationship? :-P

- I loved how they were all talking about not picking up on it being Katherine. First defending themselves, but she did this which is so Elena-like, and then listing all the things that are Elena-like before listing more things that were obviously NOT Elena-like before they just kinda trailed off because DUH! as Caroline said they're the worst friends ever! Hah!

:-D. I really like this scene, too. This was a good moment for viewers (including me) who may have been rolling their eyes during last week’s episode when it was so obviously Katherine. And what I really loved about this was that it was *Caroline* pointing out they were the worst friends ever. For all of her judgment and criticism, this to me is her saving grace as a character. I like that she holds herself to the same standards that she sets for the others and no one is as disappointed or upset with failure as she is with herself. (e.g. Klaus)

- Speaking of Damon, bahahahaha! I was grinning so much during the scene between him and Tyler because it was so obvious that he was baiting Tyler…

Okay, I’m admitting it – I totally fell for this right along with Tyler. What a ‘duh’ moment. But Damon really sold it for me. I loved the nervous look and that little step backwards that Ian S. did when Tyler entered the room that was purely a calculated move to give Tyler the confidence to come closer. Love the smart, unpredictable, loose cannon that is Damon Salvatore.

And the scene with Wes Maxfield?? WICKEDLY GOOD. :-D

Speaking of smart, how much did you love hearing him suggest through the door that they use a locator spell and Stefan and Caroline’s exchanged looks? HAH!! Even when Damon is down for the count, he is still the most intelligent of the group.

cont.
Arabian: Damon & Elena06arabian on March 18th, 2014 09:09 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for the link to the promo. WHOO HOO!!

You're welcome. It is fantastic, I know. :)

I'm sorry you didn't like last week's episode. I thought it was a good one and important in setting stuff up, and maybe with this one, it will make last week's play out better for you.

I really like this scene, too. This was a good moment for viewers (including me) who may have been rolling their eyes during last week’s episode when it was so obviously Katherine.

I kept reminding myself that they are only seeing her (except for Stefan on the road trip) for small stretches of time and they do not know and can't possibly conceive that this could be happening and they had a ready excuse to explain why Elena was off (the Damon break-up), so it all made sense to me.

I like that she holds herself to the same standards that she sets for the others and no one is as disappointed or upset with failure as she is with herself. (e.g. Klaus)

I ♥ Caroline.

Even when Damon is down for the count, he is still the most intelligent of the group.
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MaelJ0714: necklacemaelj0714 on March 12th, 2014 05:12 pm (UTC)
- OK, I get the point of the Katherine/Nadia pretty pretend fantasy, but I kept thinking of when Damon did it for Rose and it just felt like a rip-off of that scene and that one just felt so much more genuine.

I liked this scene, but agree that it didn’t have nearly the emotional impact as the one with Damon and Rose. I liked that Nadia, as a sad, lonely little girl, was finally getting the motherly love and attention she’d always wanted. But I didn’t feel Katherine was redeemed here at all. Whether intended or not, I didn’t like how she appeared the hero in the dream; and one short, happy vision of what childhood could have been with her just wasn’t enough for me. With all the tabs Katherine kept on Klaus and Stefan, she could have tracked Nadia down and contacted her. And no way do I buy that no one told her a young woman claiming Katherine was her mother was looking for her. She had no interest in having a relationship with Nadia when Nadia did find her.

In the Damon/Rose scene, the part with Rose was touching, but for me the emotional impact was all because of Damon. When I first watched it, I was so struck by the juxtaposition of this villain/anti-hero, who showed everyone how cruel and unfeeling he was (even in his appearance, dressed all in black), wasn’t really that way at all. He felt a kinship and bond with Rose; but really he hardly knew her and that was what made his gesture so moving. His kindness and pity. The dream was all for her, about her and done in secret. He was just a quiet observer still in his 21st century clothes. I was happy/sad for Rose but that scene was so poignant because it showed a glimpse of Damon’s inner goodness that he kept hidden. It reminded me very much of the scene where he is stroking Elena’s cheek and Stefan is calling him a monster. A revelation that THIS is who he really is.

And I just didn’t feel any inner goodness in Katherine in her scene with Nadia. Katherine was hurt from having her baby taken and from running from Klaus all these years but only in regards to herself, not taking into account how it affected Nadia. And when she did discover the effect it had on Nadia, she was sad and gave Nadia peace in her last moments, but I never got a sense that knowledge ‘transformed’ her or that she would have redeemed herself by doing things differently if given a second chance. I think if it had, she would have been allowed on the other side and not where she ultimately did in the end. ::shrugs, too::

Overall, one of my favorite episodes this season and….of course, awesome review. :-D

Edited at 2014-03-12 05:22 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Elijah & Katherine01arabian on March 18th, 2014 09:09 am (UTC)
But I didn’t feel Katherine was redeemed here at all. Whether intended or not, I didn’t like how she appeared the hero in the dream; and one short, happy vision of what childhood could have been with her just wasn’t enough for me. With all the tabs Katherine kept on Klaus and Stefan, she could have tracked Nadia down and contacted her.

Exactly. But then I don't think this was about redeeming Katherine because she wasn't doing this for Nadia. She was doing this for herself, she was trying to make herself feel better because it's ALWAYS about Katherine.

He felt a kinship and bond with Rose; but really he hardly knew her and that was what made his gesture so moving.

Eh, here's where I admit, the Damon/Rose dream thing never moved me all that much either because I never got why he felt this kinship. I still don't get why Damon cared all that much about this random chick who threatened Elena's life, showed up and squatted in their home and he screwed a few times. Sure they became friends of sorts, and she decided to take the wolf bite for him, but the whole death bed thing? He knew her for like two seconds and she threatened Elena's life! I guess I get him doing it for her for her taking the bite for him, but being all emo and crying over it? Yeah, still don't get that.

I already knew that Damon was a good guy, and I didn't buy this forced connection with random chick so it always felt forced with me. But I mostly blame that on the godawful casting of Lauren Cohan as Rose.

she was sad and gave Nadia peace in her last moments, but I never got a sense that knowledge ‘transformed’ her or that she would have redeemed herself by doing things differently if given a second chance.

Again, because I don't think she was really trying to give Nadia peace, but rather trying to soothe her own submerged guilt coming to the surface and give herself peace and comfort her own grief. All about Katherine.
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vanimy: Elenavanimy on March 17th, 2014 09:17 pm (UTC)
I wanted to write a long comment about everything I enjoyed in this episode. Should've done it right after watching it, which I didn't do for some obscure reason. And now I'm too lazy. :P

Just know I continue to read your reviews and still find them marvelous. BTW I also thought you made great points about the storyline being needed to make every character grow in your response to my last comment (Me, late? Nah. :P)

Anyway, yeah, I enjoyed the heck out of this episode. A few comments :

-Katherine's departure was well-done as much as her last act before dying which was so in character. I loved everything she said to everyone and everyone's reaction. Heck, I even shed a few tears when Nadia died despite my total indifference for the character. And yes, I agree, this was such a Rose dream rip-off.

-I don't know why Katherine was the only one going to hell since there are some nasty bad guys on the other side but I really liked it. She did deserve it and it was nice foreshadowing from Damon there. BTW it's not the first time he refers to hell when it comes to Katherine, he told her to rot in hell in 2x07 when he put her in the tomb (yeah, I've been rewatching some parts of earlier seasons).

I don't know whether it's because she's evil or because she tried to cheat death but I like the fact the writers kept it mysterious. Is it the witches? Is it the higher power Bonnie was praying to and Katherine mocked right before being sucked into hell? We don't know and I like it that way.

-I wanted Stefan to be the one killing Katherine because it was most fitting since Damon already had closure so I wasn't surprised he did it, just content he was the one killing the bitch. Someone on tumblr made a very interesting gif, paralleling Katherine stabbing Stefan and saying that hate was the beginning of a love story in 2x01 and when Stefan stabbed her and she commented it was the end of their love story. how fitting. Does it mean the writers actually know what they're doing? :P

-Damon both worried me and satisfied me in this episode. He really was a psycho when it came to Wes, and yes, Wes wasn't innocent but the way he cut his eyes out was chilling and creepy and all kinds of wrong. And then Damon being Damon does something absolutely sweet at the end of the episode and I forget how psycho he can be sometimes. The way he worried over Elena not waking up and his sweet smile at her and the way he wanted to tell her everything and how he didn't want to run anymore... *sigh* all the feels.

-Yay, Elena's back!!!! TVD is nothing without her. Actually, TVD is nothing without the main three characters and I'm glad the writers finally realized that and came back to them and focused on them.

-Several funny moments in this episode. Damon horrified at the thought of Caroline doing math, Stefan cheekily replying she used a calculator, Damon saying 'nothing a locator spell can't fix' from his cell while Caroline and Stefan discuss, Tyler being Tyler and being tricked so easily.... I could go on, but nice stuff.

-I think Damon referred to Katherine as 'Kitty Kat' because of her sudden use of nicknames for the gang, 'Bon Bon', 'Matty Blue eyes' or something...

-Even though I like Matt's chivalry and the way he's the only decent person on this show I still think he was kinda rude to Jeremy when he carried Nadia's body.

-Also, Bb!Jeremy!!

-The new witch is annoying... I really don't care about her, but it gives Bonnie some scenes about witchy stuff so that's always good I guess.

-Last but not least, the 5x16 promo. The Delena shippers just woke up and set tumblr on fire with gifs. I usually don't watch previews because they either spoil too much or trick you but your post made me watch it. And damn, I think I watched this preview a gazillion times. But I hope that before this moment (and epic kiss) Elena is pissed at Damon for what he's done. I hope all the stuff he's done is not swept under the rug. I doubt it will be but just saying.

I haven't been excited for a TVD episode like that in a long looong time. Bring on 5x16!
Arabian: Damon & Elena30arabian on March 18th, 2014 09:18 am (UTC)
Just know I continue to read your reviews and still find them marvelous.

Thank you. :)

BTW I also thought you made great points about the storyline being needed to make every character grow in your response to my last comment

Thank you. I really do think that was the main reason for this story and it was key.

-I don't know why Katherine was the only one going to hell since there are some nasty bad guys on the other side

Do we know that, though? We know there are nasty bad guys, but how bad? As bad and as truly unredeemable as Katherine? And furthermore as crafty and cunning as Katherine? As I said in my post, my main reason for thinking she's not there is that the witches didn't want her there because they figured that if anyone could manipulate witches/warlocks into figuring out how to get out of the Other Side, it would be Katherine and she wouldn't care what chaos she caused in the process.

Someone on tumblr made a very interesting gif, paralleling Katherine stabbing Stefan and saying that hate was the beginning of a love story in 2x01 and when Stefan stabbed her and she commented it was the end of their love story. how fitting.

Very cool.

Does it mean the writers actually know what they're doing?

Isn't that what I've been saying?

Damon both worried me and satisfied me in this episode. He really was a psycho when it came to Wes, and yes, Wes wasn't innocent but the way he cut his eyes out was chilling and creepy and all kinds of wrong.

Well, he was giving back what was done to him and his friend and countless other vampires by these "innocent" men of science. Plus, Damon IS a vampire. They DO have different codes of right and wrong. :shrugs:

I'm glad the writers finally realized that and came back to them and focused on them.

I don't get this -- "finally realized that?" They didn't finally realize anything. They've known this all along. Just like when Stefan was mostly out for the count a few episodes, Elena was out these few episodes as part of a story arc that was part of a bigger arc of a realized seasonal arc as part of the entire journey. Of course they realize it. They do know what they are doing, and they're doing a dang good job of it.

I usually don't watch previews because they either spoil too much or trick you but your post made me watch it.

I take previews with a grain of salt, and they're the only "spoilers" I allow myself so I just have fun with them, LOL! and this one was WAAAY fun.

I hope that before this moment (and epic kiss) Elena is pissed at Damon for what he's done. I hope all the stuff he's done is not swept under the rug. I doubt it will be but just saying.</i>

I, however, do NOT do this. Speculating about what they may or may not do and getting preemptively worked up about it either way does nothing but sets me up for expectations that aren't fair to the show because they have their plan and, for me, I trust them. So I just go with the flow and I've been pretty durn happy indeed. :D
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Alisha: Janellekalishaka on November 15th, 2014 07:27 pm (UTC)
I have come around. I mean not really. There are still other things I would have loved to seem them do with Katherine, but I have come around to what the show made of this chance. They had three episodes of Katherine controlling Elena's body, the first began the story and growth of Stefan, the second explored the Salvatore brother bond, and the third brought back Elena but gave a gorgeous platform for Katherine's story to end. So like, I still feel it was a cheap and lazy writing gimmick to get them to a place where they could do this....BUT they used it to tell some awesome stories and explore characters in some great ways so I allow it and shall make peace with it.

I think one of the best things about Katherine is how much the show manages to make you both love and hate her equally. She is evil. She is petty. She is selfish. There should be nothing redeemable about her, but yet, you always want their to be. Because we get these glimpses of who Katherine could have been. And while, yes, the 'dream' she creates for Nadia is obviously a rehash of what Damon did for Rose, I think it is beautiful that even in that moment, the show is still capturing the essence of Katherine. Yes, she did it for Nadia. But more than that....Katherine wasn't just giving Nadia the memory she always wanted to put her at peace, Katherine was creating the life she wanted. The one she longed for when she begged to hold her baby just for a moment before it was taken away. The one she tried to run back to only to find her family dead. Katherine became hard and selfish and bitter, because Katherine lost everything she ever thought she wanted. And in this moment, where Nadia tells Katherine exactly who and what she is, Katherine takes the chance to have at least one person know exactly what she always wanted to be. The scene just made me cry, not for or about Nadia who I literally care nothing about, but just Katherine.

I never thought there would be a moment where I would be ready to let Katherine go, but the show managed it. They kept everything I loved about her. I adored every second of her. But they made me want her to go. So success to them. And success to them for earning the moment of keeping Katherine from the other side. Because as she mourned her daughter. As the rest of the characters let her speak her peace and say her final words. As Stefan let her take a kiss that could never be real before stabbing her and ending her life. She was almost forgiven. But then she reminds us of exactly who she is. She's lost everything...again. And Katherine....does not take that loss lightly. Petty as it may be to put it all on Elena, it is the best way for her to get even a bit of her control back, just a way to tell the world she will not go quietly. And maybe the witches (because we all know it was the witches) never planned to let Katherine in. But I like to think, that they, like the audience, were almost swayed until she reminded them exactly who she was.

Also, I don't know why, but I actually didn't see it coming. I mean, I assumed she would try to screw over Elena in some way, but I just didn't see it coming. I look forward to seeing where it goes.

Matt connecting with Nadia. Like I actively could not stand Nadia or the actress but I like that they used her to feature Matt a bit. And talk about his family and his history.

Damon coming full circle post Katherine death. Sitting by Elena's bedside, willing at last to take the consequences of his actions. It was a nice touch. Also Stefan just sitting with him. I love them.

I have now enjoyed or at least not hated Tyler for like three episodes in a row. I'm pretty sure I'm dying. But honestly, like, his ability to get over it...Caroline's reaction. Both were valid. And I enjoyed that. I don't know why I'm surprised that the writer's didn't figure out how to make Caroline and Tyler actually speak and seem like people who actually could have been in a relationship until after they broke them up. I don't want it back at all. I just don't understand why neither managed to have that connection when they were actually supposed to be connected.

Also, I am just ready for Bonnie to be a witch again. Random blonde witch is not doing it for me.