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17 October 2013 @ 02:53 am
1.03 - "Tangled Up in Blue" (The Originals)  
I can't promise that most TO write-ups won't roughly come around this time considering my work schedule! But here it is. :)

So, I'm not loving The Originals as much. For three specific reasons. The lack of Elijah is very glaring. The Vampire Diaries works because you have *good* characters balancing out the *bad* characters, right now the only truly *good* character that we're seeing a lot of is Cami and she's somewhat of a cipher and I personally don't find the actress very charismatic. I could be wrong but based on what I've read/heard elsewhere, she's not exactly raking in the fans so I'm not alone. I suppose that technically Sophie is *good* too, but she's already done more sketchy things that she's starting out on the greyer side of things. So really we just have Cami.

And Elijah. Yes, yes, he has done some things, but Elijah is noble. He radiates GOOD. But Elijah was daggered at the end of the first episode and so that GOOD is gone. So we are left with a lot of bad and now the show is pretty dang lopsided in the bad department. It's now full of bad guys and mean girls doing naughty things. And honestly, that gets kinda boring.

Reason number two and I can NOT believe I'm saying this: Rebekah. She's not fitting in on The Originals. I felt that she really only began fitting in last week until about halfway through. Well, in this episode, she felt out of place throughout the whole thing and she never meshed. All she is is the whiny, bratty sister. I loved Rebekah on The Vampire Diaries. Adored her. A-D-O-R-E-D HER. She was my third favorite character after Damon and Elena. So far I just kinda like her on The Originals. Here, they just aren't doing *anything* with her. I mean, really why is she even here? OK, fine, she wants to get Elijah back. Then what? Will she just leave? I see no other reason why she'll stay. There's nothing to her. This Rebekah really is just a mean girl. There are no layers, no depth. She's a mean girl who loves her brothers, but most people do love their family, right? That's not particularly remarkable. OK, then. And?

*sigh* On TVD, she is SO MUCH MORE. She's real. She was becoming not just the mean girl, but a real girl. And, honestly, Rebekah just doesn't feel like she belongs here, she feels like she's visiting. She belongs in Mystic Falls, damnit.

Finally, I'm now thinking that it's a good thing this show doesn't air after The Vampire Diaries because it would suffer the same malady as every other show post-TVD has: major letdown. So much happens on TVD, that The Originals, like those, would suffer from comparison. It's simply slow and sluggish in comparison. And with that said, I just don't really have deep thoughts, so some randoms...

- Rebekah/Marcel feels forced. 100% forced.

- Such as ... that on/off thing made sense referring to Matt, damnit! not Marcel. Grrr.

- Klaus/Cami may feel fine for TO viewers, but for TVD viewers, it feels wrong because, hello, what about Caroline? (And I so don't ship Klaus/Caroline at all.)

- Elijah's presence is really missed. (Yes, I'll keep bringing that up.)

- Sophie is awesome. I love her. Other than Elijah, she is the one awesome that continues.

- I'm kinda thinking that weird-ass Davina theory is somehow the Klaus/Hayley baby might have wings. I don't know how, but I'm wondering.

- They need to get cracking and have something happen with Hayley because just sitting around in the Klaus-mansion is totes boring.

- Actually, they need to get cracking and have more something happen period. See "slow and sluggish" comment above.

- The Garden concept's cool in a creepy-awful way.

- It's not Cami, it's the actress, yeah.

- I have to say, I'm a wee disappointed. The strongest episode by far was the first. Which heavily featured Elijah. Which was written by TVD writers. Which was a heavily re-written TVD episode essentially. Hmm. Yeah. Please unworry me, show.

- I still like Hayley way more on this than I ever did on TVD.

- I just don't care about the vamps vs the witches yet. Because I only know a few at this point. It's all so distant at this point. God, bring Elijah back!

Yeah, really unimpressed with this episode. NOTHING happened. OK, fine, Marcel trusts Klaus a bit more. Whoopee! Seriously show, unworry me, please!
 
 
 
bangel_4e: elenabangel_4e on October 17th, 2013 09:33 am (UTC)
I like The Originals so far but I agree with certain things.

-I do miss Elijah as well...I'm afraid it's gonna take a while before he comes back...stupid Davina -.-
-Rebekah's way better in Mystic Falls.
-Yep, don't care about vamps vs. witches as well.

And then...I didn't get a vibe about Cami and Klaus though..I mean, she misunderstood the situation and Klaus said she didn't..so she likes her (somewhat) or he was just being nice? And yes, what about Caroline??? Ok, Cami's human, Caroline wasn't..so really, it's not the same thing but it still pisses me off.


Such as ... that on/off thing made sense referring to Matt, damnit! not Marcel. Grrr
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. When they hinted at Marcel I was like WTF...what about Matt? That makes sense if it's Matt.

I don't like Sophie. At all. Both character and actress. I find her so irritating...I don't know, it may not even be a rational hate..I just can't stand her.
As I can't stand Hayley..even if she's better here than on TVD.

And just random...I love Joseph Morgan. I mean, of course the lack of Daniel is there but I think he's doing such a brilliant job...love,love,love him.

dancing till the world ends: originals: like bookendslynnenne on October 17th, 2013 01:28 pm (UTC)
I love Joseph Morgan. I mean, of course the lack of Daniel is there but I think he's doing such a brilliant job...love,love,love him.

Me, too. He and Daniel Gillies are the reason I'm watching this show.

Gillies is working on another series here in Canada, which is why he's been absent recently. They're trying to juggle his schedule. But he will come back!
bangel_4e: elena2bangel_4e on October 17th, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
Really? Which series? I had no idea lol

Yep, I bet it's not easy. Can't wait to see him back.
Arabian: Elijah01arabian on October 17th, 2013 03:26 pm (UTC)
It's called Saving Hope. It aired on NBC for a bit, but didn't take off, so it was canceled. I started it, and plan to continue it, but I haven't had time. It co-stars Michael Shanks and Erica Durance. Daniel plays a "bad boy" doctor.
bangel_4e: elena2bangel_4e on October 18th, 2013 03:03 pm (UTC)
Oh, now that you mention it, I've heard of it..but never watched it. Maybe I should give it a try, even if it's canceled.
dancing till the world ends: originals: consiglierelynnenne on October 17th, 2013 11:00 pm (UTC)
It's a medical drama called Saving Hope. It was picked up by NBC in its first year but I don't think they renewed it. It's doing well here, though.
bangel_4e: elena3bangel_4e on October 18th, 2013 03:04 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the link, so nice of you :)
I'm usually not into medical dramas but I was thinking I could watch it anyway, even if got canceled :)

Arabian: Elijah01arabian on October 20th, 2013 06:16 am (UTC)
I like The Originals so far but I agree with certain things.

I like it, but I'm disappointed because I loved the first episode and I thought that I had another show I would love and that's not happening.

-I do miss Elijah as well...I'm afraid it's gonna take a while before he comes back...stupid Davina -.-
-Rebekah's way better in Mystic Falls.
-Yep, don't care about vamps vs. witches as well.


Yup, yup, yup.

And then...I didn't get a vibe about Cami and Klaus though..I mean, she misunderstood the situation and Klaus said she didn't..so she likes her (somewhat) or he was just being nice? And yes, what about Caroline??? Ok, Cami's human, Caroline wasn't..so really, it's not the same thing but it still pisses me off.

It's like there is nothing similar between Caroline and Cami at all, but I guess we're supposed to see a similarity, but I don't at all. And then I'm stuck thinking, OK, but why am I supposed to think that Klaus maybe has feelings for her, and uhm, but I liked that something between Klaus and Hayley. Who is this Cami-girl? God, I don't care about her! Make her go away!

When they hinted at Marcel I was like WTF...what about Matt? That makes sense if it's Matt.

I know!!!

I don't like Sophie. At all. Both character and actress. I find her so irritating...I don't know, it may not even be a rational hate..I just can't stand her.

Aww, I love her. :(

And just random...I love Joseph Morgan. I mean, of course the lack of Daniel is there but I think he's doing such a brilliant job...love,love,love him.

I like him, but yeah, the love just isn't there. Oh well.
bangel_4e: delena2bangel_4e on October 20th, 2013 09:50 am (UTC)
It's like there is nothing similar between Caroline and Cami at all, but I guess we're supposed to see a similarity, but I don't at all. And then I'm stuck thinking, OK, but why am I supposed to think that Klaus maybe has feelings for her, and uhm, but I liked that something between Klaus and Hayley. Who is this Cami-girl? God, I don't care about her! Make her go away!

I agree with everything but the Klaus/Hayley thing :)


Arabian: Betty01 - Yesarabian on October 20th, 2013 10:31 am (UTC)
I was just really surprised by their last scene in her bedroom in the second episode. I really had surprising feels. So much that I was even tempted to icon it. So you know that means I had FEELS!
bangel_4e: delena3bangel_4e on October 20th, 2013 10:37 am (UTC)
OH NO, THE FEELS!

You're doomed lol (sorry, I don't mean it in a bad way).

That means something...When I have the feels about a couple, it's sealed in my heart. But it usually takes a pivotal scene.
Arabian: Alaric01arabian on October 21st, 2013 04:55 am (UTC)
It's not sealed in my heart, I can easily escape, but there was definitely something there. We'll see what happens.
tj2013tj2013 on October 17th, 2013 02:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah... I'm with you on that. This week's episode didn't impress me. And they did soooo much explaining. As if the viewers couldn't connect any dots by themselves. I get that they do this for the viewers not acquainted with the TVD-world (ever heard about compulsion? Duh), but still. Too much explaining, not enough action. Not enough Elijah. And you are right, the good ones are missing. I didn't catch that while watching, but your explanation makes sense.
Arabian: Elijah02arabian on October 20th, 2013 06:17 am (UTC)
So much talking and NOTHING happened. Sigh.

And I want ELIJAH!!!!!
Florencia: TO (Klaus)florencia7 on October 18th, 2013 03:47 am (UTC)
I actually liked this ep. Maybe because Klaus was being pro-active & more... Klaus (he seemed kind of subdued in the previous eps, despite how good overall the premiere was).

But I agree that with *everyone* doing bad things we're not going to get very far. Perhaps surprisingly, having ALL the characters lack moral dilemmas is no fun.

I also agree about the actress playing Cami. If she really is going to be the only truly good character on the show, then she should be more intense (more "full of light" & all that ;)

Rebekah just seems... listless? I don't know why that is.

I had this nagging feeling from the beginning that this show is not going to be as nuanced as TVD and so far I didn't change my mind... Still, I did have fun watching it. It was enjoyable. I think there is still hope ;D
Arabian: Rebekah04arabian on October 20th, 2013 06:20 am (UTC)
I actually liked this ep. Maybe because Klaus was being pro-active & more... Klaus (he seemed kind of subdued in the previous eps, despite how good overall the premiere was).

I liked it, don't get me wrong, like I liked last week. Well, I liked last week more, but I LOVED the first episode. And that's the problem. I LOVED the first episode, I really liked last week. I liked this week. See the problem?

But I agree that with *everyone* doing bad things we're not going to get very far. Perhaps surprisingly, having ALL the characters lack moral dilemmas is no fun.

Yeah.

I also agree about the actress playing Cami. If she really is going to be the only truly good character on the show, then she should be more intense (more "full of light" & all that ;)

She's just flat and boring.

Rebekah just seems... listless? I don't know why that is.

She needs to move her ass back to Mystic Falls.

I had this nagging feeling from the beginning that this show is not going to be as nuanced as TVD and so far I didn't change my mind... Still, I did have fun watching it. It was enjoyable. I think there is still hope ;D

Oh, I think there's hope, I mean, I'm sure that when Julie, Narducci and any other assorted TVD writers step up it will spark like mad.
faith5by5_1013: The Vampire Diaries: Carolinefaith5by5_1013 on October 18th, 2013 03:57 am (UTC)
So, I'm not loving The Originals as much. For three specific reasons. The lack of Elijah is very glaring. The Vampire Diaries works because you have *good* characters balancing out the *bad* characters, right now the only truly *good* character that we're seeing a lot of is Cami and she's somewhat of a cipher and I personally don't find the actress very charismatic.

I don't so much need "good" characters on my shows, so the lack of them on The Originals isn't a problem for me. I am sad Elijah isn't there, but that's more because I like him and less because I need more good characters. But I do agree about the actress who plays Cami not being very charismatic. Which is why I find her so uninteresting most of the time.

Rebekah/Marcel feels forced. 100% forced.

Agreed.

Klaus/Cami may feel fine for TO viewers, but for TVD viewers, it feels wrong because, hello, what about Caroline?

Again, agreed. I think that Klaus and Caroline have a ton of chemistry and Klaus/Cami just pales in comparison in the chemistry department. And, honestly, he doesn't even seem remotely interested in Cami. It feels kind of forced.

I still like Hayley way more on this than I ever did on TVD.

Believe it or not, agreed. I don't like her on this. I'm completely uninterested in her. But, on TVD, I found her grating, so, yeah, this is preferable.
Arabian: Caroline04arabian on October 20th, 2013 06:38 am (UTC)
I don't so much need "good" characters on my shows

I do. I figured that out with The Sopranos. As good as it was, I couldn't continue to watch it. When I have no one that I can find that moral center, it just doesn't work for me. I need that balance, I suppose.

I do agree about the actress who plays Cami not being very charismatic. Which is why I find her so uninteresting most of the time.

She's very lackluster.

I think that Klaus and Caroline have a ton of chemistry and Klaus/Cami just pales in comparison in the chemistry department. And, honestly, he doesn't even seem remotely interested in Cami. It feels kind of forced.

Forced, sadly, right now a lot of key things in TO feel forced. The things that don't aren't being seen like Elijah. And Elijah/Hayley, and Klaus/Hayley, Marcel/Fun and Rebekah/Everything Mystic Falls.
faith5by5_1013: The Vampire Diaries: Carolinefaith5by5_1013 on October 20th, 2013 05:53 pm (UTC)
I've never seen The Sopranos, but, overall, I tend to be drawn to a lot of shows in which there are a lot of morally grey characters. *shrugs*
Arabian: Caroline02arabian on October 21st, 2013 04:56 am (UTC)
I'm fine with morally grey characters, but these aren't morally grey characters. These are dark, killing characters. Well, I guess except for Hayley. On TVD, other than Damon--and even he is edging closer to dark grey now--they are all morally grey to light grey--but here on TO, except for Cami, they are dark, blackened characters. Even Sophie seems pretty damn dark grey.
faith5by5_1013: Other: Brain Canonfaith5by5_1013 on October 22nd, 2013 01:55 am (UTC)
Yeah, I guess I'm even okay with watching shows with completely amoral characters (as long as they have some kind of reason, however twisted, for their actions). I think that, for me, the line is how the show itself regards the characters' morality. For example, I have a hard time watching a lot of revenge fantasy or vigilante films because so often the characters are killing a whole bunch of people and then being treated as heroic, perfectly moral individuals.

As I said, I haven't seen The Sopranos, but the "anti-hero" shows (that I generally see The Soproanos lumped in with) I have seen tend to have other, at least slightly more moral supporting characters and the shows themselves tend to very much call the main character's behavior into question.
Arabian: Damon04arabian on October 24th, 2013 05:40 am (UTC)
I definitely have a problem with the former you describe, LOL! But, yeah, Sopranos told me that I just have difficulty when there are no "good guys" to root for, I guess. But then Damon Salvatore is my favorite character, LOL!