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11 January 2013 @ 05:07 pm
A TVD spin-off... I haz thoughts!  
So Vampire Diaries spin-off?

I gotta be honest, my main concern is but, but, but... I LOVE Matt/Rebekah! I LOVE them. A LOT. My secondary concern is Phoebe Tonkin? Really? At least she'd be off TVD. (Although, it could just be that she's in the backdoor pilot episode, and not the series.) My third concern is, OK, so Kevin took off to produce other shows and now it's like he has NOTHING to do with TVD anymore. So, now, Julie's gonna produce another show... guys, what about the FIRST-BORN!!?!?!?

ETA: Of course, the article DOES mention that there would be two other EPs with this show, so that would hopefully mean that Julie's main focus would still be TVD. My hope is that paired with the fact that they presumably have such a set outline for the last 2 and 1/2 seasons of TVD that the group of regular writers they have on the show can steer the ship with supervision, and if her main focus remains on TVD, then that should be enough supervision. I mean, there are definitely a handful of writers/co-producers who know their stuff, do great work on TVD, and Julie has co-written episodes with a few of them, which I think would help. But yeah, that niggle of worry remains.....

Other than those concerns, LOL!, I do think this could be interesting. And I'd certainly watch it. The chance to see Klaus -- OMG! YOU GUYS TOTES KNOW THAT THIS MEANS STEFAN/CAROLINE HAVE A BETTER SHOT, YES/YES?!?!?!??! -- Ahem, the chance to see Klaus, Elijah, Kol, Rebekah doing their thang without the 'morality' (such as it is, snerk) of the Mystic Falls gang weighing them down could be very interesting. I do love and/or like all the actors/characters.

And, of course, this opens the door big-time to getting some more story for Matt, Bonnie, Jeremy, Tyler -- but the thing is, other than Bonnie -- who could use more now -- I think they're using the other three organically, involved within and around the Originals story much better than they did the first season. Matt is a significant player now. He may not be my cup of tea, but Tyler is the alpha-man! And Jeremy is coming into his own big-time. I guess, I just see how moving the Originals on might wind up not meaning more story-time for the others, but rather just more story for the three leads, and probably Candice, hopefully Kat, while the others are left stranded a bit.

I don't know, we'll see. I just do know that this could severely hamper my Matt/Rebekah*, Elijah/Katherine endgame, damnit!

* Well, to be fair, if the show is successful, after TVD ends, I could see Matt potentially moving over to that show (and possibly other characters/actors from TVD) with maybe even guest-spots from the others who don't cross over.
 
 
 
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on January 11th, 2013 10:18 pm (UTC)
Matt could go straight over! Problem solved!

>>what about the FIRST-BORN!!?!?!

This was my first thought, especially having gone through the quality nose-dive with both Buffy and Supernatural.
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on January 11th, 2013 10:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, you and your Matty-hate! But I'd lose out of Damon and Matt, and Elena and Matt. And that would make me cry. :(

This was my first thought, especially having gone through the quality nose-dive with both Buffy and Supernatural.

My only hope is that they have such a set outline for the last 2 and 1/2 seasons that the group of regular writers they have on the show can steer the ship with supervision. I mean, there are definitely a handful of writers/co-producers who know their stuff, do great work on TVD, and Julie has co-written episodes with a few of them, which I think would help. But yeah, that niggle of worry remains.....

(Totes adding this to my post.)
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on January 11th, 2013 10:39 pm (UTC)
I'd cry too, but with delight! (I doubt he's going anywhere though, pooh)

I'm sure it's possible someone else can do just as good a job, but experience makes me wary (although I have just been reading the new TVD non-L J Smith book trilogy out of curiosity, is it bad of me, given the circumstances of them being taken away from her the way they were, that I think they are a big improvement (all the Stefan/Elena not withstanding)?).

Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)03arabian on January 11th, 2013 10:50 pm (UTC)
Lordy, knowing the reason they wrested it from her was because they wanted to end it S/E* would make me not want to read it, ugh. Even if I've never read the books and have no desire too.

* Gotta differentiate from the show, I guess, hehehehe.

I'm sure it's possible someone else can do just as good a job

What I'm hoping is that because they'd sorta still be connected that Julie wouldn't be stepping away completely like KW has. As long as she's still steering and doing some episodes here and there for TVD, I think we'll be good. Also, there's no guarantee that it will be picked up. :shrugs:
Bogwitch: Meg and Mog - Mog [new]bogwitch on January 11th, 2013 11:16 pm (UTC)
Quite wise, but I am 10 books in, I think I am now committed. Or ought to be. But Stefan now has a personality! At last.

Let's hope so.

Arabian: Alaric01arabian on January 11th, 2013 11:46 pm (UTC)
Rereading it when I put it on Bloodstream, and there's mention of two other eps on this potential show, so hopefully, TVD would remain her focus, with just giving a helping hand to TO.
k_stjames: pic#117006481k_stjames on January 12th, 2013 01:25 am (UTC)
I agree with you about being worried about JP's focus being split. I wonder if they will take it in a completely different direction so that there is no chance of similar storylines between the shows. It would also help TVD to tighten up their storytelling because right now with all the characters they're not really doing justice to everyone like Bonnie.
Arabian: Bonnie02arabian on January 12th, 2013 03:52 am (UTC)
I am still a wee worried, but with the two other eps, I feel better.

Ah, I do think Bonnie's had it a bit light so far this season, but things, I think, are definitely on the upswing for her. And Matt and Jeremy are woven into the main storylines beautifully now in a way they never were before.
prettygirl5130: pic#119743568prettygirl5130 on January 12th, 2013 05:33 am (UTC)
Yeah, I heard about this. Well, I think it could be good for Julie and some of the actors on TVD currently because the network and Julie are clearly thinking about the future and are wondering if they can extend the series longer without actually extending the current series long past it's expiration date. So, the good thing about about it is that we know the netowrk is fully aware that TVD will be ending soon.

I don't know how I feel about the Originals leaving the show and just walking away. I always figured Klaus would be killed off, preferably by Elena, but it still hasn't sunk in with me yet that he would really gone. I guess he's just become such an interesting facet to the show, even though I think the character himself doesn't really hold a purpose anymore unless they redeem him like they did with Damon in seasons 1 and 2. This is probably the dilemma Julie faces every season because, clearly, Julie and a lot of fans love Joe and Klaus and we just watched an episode where Klaus literally kicked some major ass but it's obvious that the longer Klaus stays a threat and alive in Mystic Falls, the dumber our heroes seem for not being able to defeat him or not even trying to defeat him. So, they have to do something about it and I guess this was Julie's way out of killing Klaus and getting backlash from all of the Original fans. Just give him a show!

What about Bex? I love her so much and she is such a great character to play against the main cast. Plus, Claire Holt is so damn good...I don't even know if I would ever want her truly gone. I always figured that even if Klaus would die, Bex would live on because I feel she is almost a blonde Katherine only with more heart. I would hate to see her go.

My biggest concern, like you said, is Julie. She already has another project green lit for Fox, TVD, and now this? I don't want to lose both Julie and Kevin! Julie is really the voice and balance of this show and it's pratically her vision of this show. If she leaves, it's possible that her vision will be lost, much like when Kevin left Dawson's Creek. Everything that we've been waiting for, all of those payoffs, could be lost. If we lost Julie, it would eerily resemble what happened to the original author of the Vampire Diaries books (except for the fact that LJ Smith was fired and Julie has not been fired from running TVD), and that parellel would be complete if we got a showrunner who decided that this story is about Stefan and Elena and their love and Damon and Elena are just a lustful phase. The triangle would be ruined.

Either way though, it's only a backdoor pilot and it may not even work out so, this all may be for nothing. Still, I feel so conflicted about this and it really does worry me that because this show is only going to be on for at the most 2 more seasons, Julie may be so set on planning another job that she may end up leaving her first job because of that planning and that worried me the most.
Arabian: Matt & Rebekah02arabian on January 23rd, 2013 02:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, I think this is a clear sign that Julie is sticking to her guns that TVD will end when she planned it too, and this allows the possibility that we can see some of these characters, and the story continue elsewhere.

I'm glad about this also because I do think Klaus needs to go, so this does that. We know now that Elijah will be on the show now too. I'm thinking honestly that Rebekah will either die (sniff, sniff, noooooo!) or she'll stay on TVD. If she does stay on TVD, that opens the door if they continue through with Rebekah and Matt that both of those actors will then just move over to the spin-off when TVD ends.

Well, we're not losing Julie. Caroline Dries is stepping up as co-exec producer and she's been with the show since s1 and has clearly been working very closely with Julie (including writing with her -- among their episodes together was the brilliant "Ordinary People"). Plus, I think it's pretty clear that they have a VERY detailed direction of where they are going and so as long as that roadmap is followed, and the vision remains clear -- which I think it will -- the show will be OK.
vanimy: Rebekahvanimy on January 22nd, 2013 09:42 pm (UTC)
I'm really not excited about this spin-off... One because yeah, it means Julie Plec will be at best distracted with it and that's no good with Kevin Williamson already gone. Two because I don't give a damn about Klaus or worse Phoebe Tonkin.

So no thank you. As far as I'm concerned the only good thing out of this is TVD focusing on its core characters again. But I think it could've been accomplished without creating a spin-off. *shrugs*
Arabian: Rebekah03arabian on January 23rd, 2013 02:47 am (UTC)
Well, I'm a wee worried about Julie, but I'm actually OK for the most part because Caroline Dries is stepping up as co-exec producer and she's been with the show since s1 and has clearly been working very closely with Julie (including writing with her -- among their episodes together was the brilliant "Ordinary People"). Plus, I think it's pretty clear that they have a VERY detailed direction of where they are going and so as long as that roadmap is followed, and the vision remains clear -- which I think it will -- the show will be OK.

I'm not happy about Phoebe Tonkin, but I do love JoMo and Klaus, even if I love lots others more, and it was just announced that Daniel Gilies (Elijah) will be in it as well.

the only good thing out of this is TVD focusing on its core characters again

I read this a lot and I just don't get that complaint honestly. Caroline, Tyler, Matt and Jeremy are more involved in the main stories now than they ever have been and part of that is because of the story drawing them in through Klaus and Rebekah. But I know that I'm in the minority in that thought.