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24 May 2012 @ 05:23 pm
Overall and finale 'Revenge' thoughts  
So I've never actually posted about Revenge. But in an effort to feature more in my livejournal than 99 posts about The Vampire Diaries and 1 post about ... not The Vampire Diaries, here are quick overall thoughts about the show, and the finale in particular. I've actually watched this one from the beginning and quite enjoy it for the campy, soapy, creepy goodness it is. (Spoilers for the finale included.)

Yeah, so Nolan is totes my favorite character. Gabriel Mann reminds me of Jason Dohring in a way in that he took a character and made him so much more with his acting choices and sheer talent than was originally intended. (Although, I do think it was more intended with Mann/Nolan, than it was Dohring/Logan (from Veronica Mars).) And, also, despite the fact that he's not stereotypically good-looking (especially, I'm sure in the eyes of the network, compared to his co-stars Josh Bowman, who plays Daniel, and Nick Weschler, who plays Jack), his charm and charisma make him infinitely more appealing to me (and I know many others). Mann also has way more chemistry with leading lady Emily VanCamp than do either Bowman or Weschler (the latter by a long shot), which brings me to one of my only three problems with the show.

Note: Just to make it easier, I'm referring to the real Amanda as Emily, and the real Emily as Amanda as that is what they are mostly referred to as on the show.

I don't care about Emily and Daniel -- soooo glad they broke up. On the other hand, I really don't care about Emily and Jack. I'm sorry, but I don't buy that two adults who've grown up and changed would be in love because they had puppy love when they were in their pre-teens with no interaction between. It might help if Vancamp and Weschler had chemistry, but I really don't think they do. And that's underscored by the fact that she does have really good chemistry with Mann, and Weschler has pretty decent chemistry with Margarita Levieva, the actress who plays Amanda. I really liked her, and I'm glad she's back, but obviously the great love that Jack felt for her -- that I believed -- has now been swallowed by this great big love that Jack and Emily have. Whatever. Don't buy it, show. At all.

The only other things I don't like is 1) the whole Charlotte/Declan thing. Ugh. Just stop. I don't dislike Declan and Charlotte when they are interacting with family. In fact, I generally like those scenes, it's just the two together that I want to cry my eyes out with boredom and/or annoyance. And 2), the friendship of Emily and Ashley just kinda dropped. I actually do like Ashley -- how much that has to do with the character, or the actress (BAMBI!), I don't know -- and I like her role, but I wish it had been made clear early on that she never really considered Emily a friend and vice versa. The introduction of their relationship just seemed so much more than it rather offhandedly was revealed as. At least to me.

Other than that, I do like everything else. Emily is awesome with her sweet, innocent face and her crocodile smile of evil and flinty eyes when the wrong people have looked away. I LOVE her relationship with Nolan, the flashbacks to the stuff with her dad, and the little moments of character that so work. Perfect example: not only her telling the white-haired man (Bill Buchanan! How could you?!) that she had just honored her father by not killing him, but more so for how she said it. Almost off-hand like the guy is barely worth the effort it took to speak. Awesome.

Aside from Emily and Nolan, I also love Victoria. I must confess that not only have I never been a fan of Madeleine Stowe, I actually have almost actively disliked her for some reason I don't quite even remember. I do not know how I ever felt this way because OHMYGOD! she is so awesome. I love her, I love her voice, her mannerisms, her awesome figure, her glorious hair, her smile that can be wicked and warm within seconds of each other. Oh, her plane blew up? Pfft. I literally don't feel an ounce of worry about it, of course, she changed her mind and got off the plane which we'll find out when the show returns because she couldn't upset her precious Daniel.

Ah, Daniel. He's definitely more interesting as Conrad's carbon-copy son (and, oh man, Emily's face when she realized that Daniel was so completely a Grayson at heart!), but he still doesn't do much for me. Jack's sweet, but kinda boring ... and stupid. I could have sorta understood him not cashing the check BEFORE Nolan pointed out that by cashing it he would keep the scary, scary Grayson's off of his back if they figured he was taken care of. Considering that he has his younger brother to think of, not taking that into consideration was just, yeah, stupid. Jack has some things that make him work for me more than does Daniel though.

First of all, I love his friendship with Nolan, and how they gradually did become friends. (Loved that Nolan paid Declan's tuition and Jack agreed.) I also like Jack and Declan's relationship, because I'm a sucker for half-way well-written sibling relationships. Finally, as I said above, I bought Jack and Amanda's relationship, in fact, I really liked them. (Oh, and I ADORE her hair.)

About the finale, I was a bit underwhelmed. Except for a few moments (all involving Nolan and Emily, and some Victoria, and Charlotte), I wasn't WOWED or dazzled (sorry, ABC promo department). I did LOVE, LOVE the last line though. So awesome. And I do look forward to what the deal is with Emily's mom. But I just wasn't ... OMG! The way they promoted it to be. Ah well. I guess I was expecting more because we do get a lot of shockers on this show. Ooh, which reminds me of my favorite: that the lawyer guy that Victoria hired was working *with* Emily, I just thought that was so unexpectedly cool.

The one other thing I really did love about it is that despite what creator Mike Kelly insists, Emily and Nolan so have the best relationship and I do not see it as brother/sister. Yeah, yeah, I get that Jack doesn't know it all, but when you have Emily sharing all of these REAL, true moments with ... Nolan, that's the relationship I'm most invested in. Period.

So, uhm, yeah, there's my thoughts on Revenge. :) Rambling all over the place, I know, so if anyone is curious about my thoughts about specific plot points, arcs, characters, feel free to bring it up in the comments
 
 
 
bastetseyebastetseye on May 24th, 2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
I love Nolan, if he hadn't survived I was actually considering not watching next season (it doesn't help that another favourite character of mine from another show has been killed off, so I was still reacting to that.)

I kind of ship Jack and Emily, but also Nolan/Emily, ideally given Nolan's Bi, I would love for the show to do Jack/Nolan/Emily,( I really don't think he'd mind since I'm convinced he fancys both and that's why he ships them himself- if he can't have them, at least he can have load of fantasys of them together!) But sadly it seems that no tv show is really prepared to go there.
Arabian: David & Billie Dancingarabian on May 25th, 2012 12:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'd still watch for Nolan, but it wouldn't be as much fun, that's for sure.

I agree that Nolan wouldn't mind a threesome, but yeah, networks won't go there, LOL!
Alishakalishaka on May 24th, 2012 10:32 pm (UTC)
THIS SHOW! I need to play catch up with the episodes since the hiatus but I sooooo need to catch up and talk about it with you. I love it so much!
Arabian: Rose_smilearabian on May 25th, 2012 12:37 pm (UTC)
Yes, you do. Yes, we do!
Alisha: Revenge - EmilyNolanBamfWalkkalishaka on May 25th, 2012 04:40 pm (UTC)
I think that will be my plan for next weekend. This one is a bit full. I did cave after this post yesterday and make Emily and Nolan icons. I have a favorite. His name is Nolan. I feel no shame!
Brandybrandyleigh on May 24th, 2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
These are pretty much my thoughts! I adore Nolan, and he's my favorite guy on the show. I'd be very interested in seeing a relationship between him and Emily, since he's the only one who I think really knows her, both sides of her, but I don't think the show is going to go there. I think we're supposed to see a brother/sister relationship between the two of them, plus the fact that they had Nolan have a relationship of sorts with Tyler. Maybe they'll surprise me, but I can't see them having their leading lady with a bisexual guy who had a relationship with a man during the course of the show, unfortunately. I'd love it, but it just seems unlikely to me after the Tyler situation.

As for Daniel and Jack, I like both of them, but I'm ambivalent about their relationships with Emily. With Daniel, I do agree that he's more interesting as Conrad, Jr., but I think they've turned him around too quickly. I just don't really buy that he's willing to cover up all of this stuff for his dad now, even if his dad was finally honest with him. As for Jack, I do enjoy his relationships with Nolan and Declan, and I enjoy his relationship with Emily, but not in a romantic sense. I think, if Emily had been older when she and Jack last saw each other (like maybe she was 16 or something) I'd buy them having this long-lost love for each other. But Emily was just a little kid when she was taken away. It's not like she and Jack ever had this young love kind of thing. They were childhood friends. I can understand her having fond feelings of him, based on that innocent time in her life, but love that spans decades? Nah.

I love Victoria, too. I don't know what happened with her, but I'm with you that I'm sure she didn't get on that plane.

I didn't think the finale was that great, either. I don't mind Amanda, but I kind of rolled my eyes at the pregnancy reveal. Still, I'm interested to see what's up with Emily's mom and where things go next season.

Edited at 2012-05-24 11:35 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Emily & Nolan01arabian on May 25th, 2012 12:41 pm (UTC)
I'd be very interested in seeing a relationship between him and Emily, since he's the only one who I think really knows her, both sides of her, but I don't think the show is going to go there. I think we're supposed to see a brother/sister relationship between the two of them

We are, the producer Mike Kelley has come out and said as much, BUT the actor Gabriel Mann has flat-out refuted that he doesn't play it that way, he doesn't buy it, and is constantly trying to change Kelley's mind, like big-time. The problem is that whatever was intended, because of the chemistry and connection between the actors and the characters, Emily and Nolan just make the most sense. Yes, he slept with Tyler, but bisexuality works here. :)

I think they've turned him around too quickly

I thought it worked because prior to the show's start, Daniel WAS an asshole and it was just because of the girl's accident that he was trying to change. But he made a lot of subtle asshole moves, and he WAS best friends with Tyler. Which is pretty telling considering what kind of person Tyler was.

I enjoy his relationship with Emily, but not in a romantic sense

Yeah, I agree.

I think, if Emily had been older when she and Jack last saw each other (like maybe she was 16 or something) I'd buy them having this long-lost love for each other. But Emily was just a little kid when she was taken away. It's not like she and Jack ever had this young love kind of thing. They were childhood friends. I can understand her having fond feelings of him, based on that innocent time in her life, but love that spans decades? Nah.

Just had to c/p all of this because YES! This so hard!!!

Definitely curious to see what happens next season. :)
Jules: i'm just getting started [ revenge ]blueeyelinerx on May 25th, 2012 12:50 am (UTC)
Revenge! I love Nolan too -- the Emily/Nolan bits in the finale were wonderful. Champagne at 9am for all! I'm more about Emily being an utter badass and wrecking everyone's lives than a ship but I agree with your points. Neither ship seem...exciting? I don't know.

SO with you on Declan/Charlotte. I'll be super sad if Victoria dies because she is just awesome but totally eh about Charlotte. Sorry Char!
Arabian: Allison Janneyarabian on May 25th, 2012 12:43 pm (UTC)
the Emily/Nolan bits in the finale were wonderful

Seriously, every moment with them was WONDERFUL!

Neither ship seem...exciting?

Yup, not exciting, just so lackluster. They lack ... luster.

Victoria simply CANNOT be gone. And I'm not saying that in a way 'oh noes, I can't lose her so therefore my heart can't take her being gone,' but in a 'there is no way they would kill off their highest-billed, biggest star who is the most likely to get an Emmy nomination.'
hiddeneloisehiddeneloise on May 25th, 2012 01:28 am (UTC)
Oy. This show. Is so, so, so ridiculous. It's so bad, it can actually be awesome on occasion. Often unintentionally, but still.

I'm with you on Gabriel Mann/Nolan. He is pretty much the only reason I still tune in. No, not pretty much, he actually IS the only reason. He needs a better show somewhere. Sigh.

The rest of it ... they had an interesting premise going, the sort of Monte Cristian out-and-out revenge wish fulfillment. It wasn't brilliant, but it was satisfying to watch Emily tick off those people one by one.

Then they didn't know what to do with themselves, and the show went off the rails completely. And that finale! Oy. The "shadow conspiracy" behind the conspiracy! I get that they need bigger/better target for Emily next year, but .... oy vey. And then Emily telling the guy who killed her father that she was Amanda, and then ... letting him go! With that knowledge. Seriously?

There is a lot of other ridiculousness on the show. The 100 (or so) -year-old dog that somehow manages to run 126 miles between Montauk and East Hamptons. More than once! Even while dying! lol. The supposedly devious people that spent their entire lives cunning others, falling like flies for the equivalent of "hey look! your shoes are untied!" The completely bonkers way the justice system works in this universe. The ridiculous Kill Bill-style Japanese sensei who preaches detachment to Emily yet gets his own hands dirty with murder (way to detach, dude). The complete about-face of Daniel. What happened there, dude? "I don't wanna be bad like my mommy and daddy" when the badness he knew was just arrogance and in-fighting, to "I'm exactly like daddy and proud of it!" once he learns just how heinous a human being daddy (and mommy) is?! Really?

I can go on about all the things that make no sense at all. But I think you hit on the main problems of the show (the plot is ludicrous and the execution is worse, but other shows survived and even thrived on less): most of the characters/actors. Daniel and Jack -- eek. They are so wishy-washy, so bland, so devoid of charm, I literally fall asleep when either of them is on screen. Part of it is writing. And part of it is that they just not that good.

And they aren't the only ones. Decklan is marginally better, and so is Charlotte. I can sort of get a twinge of care about them. But they aren't in there enough. And their marginal problems of addictions/tuitions/siblings-with-big-ass-problems just don't cut it. Victoria was okay. She somehow always looked like she is about to fall asleep -- it could be the eyes, they are just semi-squinty all the time. I get the "viper" emanating from her, but at some point it just stopped being effective. Conrad's okay. He works best when fighting with Victoria. As a single villain, he loses something. Ashley ... I don't like. Yeah, the "friendship" with Emily that wasn't really. I get that. I get that she is an ambitious girl, but there's ambitious and then there's Victoria Jr., which is where they seem to be going with her character. She'll end up marrying Daniel. And scheming. She is welcome to him and to everything that comes with it.

I kind of like Faux-manda. She is over-the-top, but at least her impulses feel real. Like here's this not terribly bright girl who keeps attaching herself to all the wrong people. Who thinks she's tough and can take care of herself, but is still a pawn. Except, of course, they made her a murderer, so it's kind of hard to get invested, when you just know it'll destroy her in the end.

I don't know. Normally I'd watch something like this with half of my brain turned off. But too many things bug me. :)

I will keep tuning in, though. I don't care about Emily, to be honest. I REALLY don't care about anyone else. Except Nolan. I am rooting for this guy with all I've got. :))
Arabian: TVarabian on May 25th, 2012 01:01 pm (UTC)
Part 1 of 1 --

Oy. This show. Is so, so, so ridiculous. It's so bad, it can actually be awesome on occasion. Often unintentionally, but still.

Hahahaha! I have a few people on my flist who watch this and they just love it, love it, love it to bits. Analyzing, seeing bigger pictures, character arcs, stuff and how it's all beautifully playing out and evolving (basically how you are about True Blood, while other people think about TB exactly the way you described Revenge. And the way I am about The Vampire Diaries, and I can't fathom anyone not seeing how awesome it is!). It so is to each their own. Totes the truth there.

For me, I don't think it's amazing, but obviously I like it enough to write about it. I think it's pretty good overall actually, not great, not anything I'd go gaga over it, but I mostly do really enjoy it, and clearly think it's a better show than you do. :nods:

I actually buy the shadow conspiracy because to believe that Victoria/Conrad -- an all-American, rich, shallow couple -- would be secretly funding a terrorist organization so powerful that they were able to bring down a plane? Is it a bit ridiculous, and it was always presented as a tiny bit nebulous, so I totally buy that there were always higher-ups pulling the strings, and that they just played Victoria and Conrad and they just stayed one-step ahead living their carefully constructed lives.

The dog, I'll give you. So should not have been that spry and all that.

The supposedly devious people that spent their entire lives cunning others, falling like flies for the equivalent of "hey look! your shoes are untied!"

Trust me, working in a police department, reading reports and what-not, OH MY GOD! THIS IS SO REAL AND NORMAL, it's frighteningly sad. Really, THIS is how so many people commit crimes. FOR REALS!

The ridiculous Kill Bill-style Japanese sensei who preaches detachment to Emily yet gets his own hands dirty with murder

I don't think you got what he was telling Emily. The problem he had with Emily is that he needed her to be detached so that she COULD kill, so that she COULD do the terrible, awful things when she had to without getting emotionally involved. Which he was right for her revenge scheme, because -- OH MY GOD! she should have killed white-haired dude! While I liked how she walked away, after everything she had told him?! Dude, so not a smart move there, Ems!

TBC

Edited at 2012-05-25 01:03 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Emily & Nolan01arabian on May 25th, 2012 01:01 pm (UTC)
Part 2 of 2 --

The complete about-face of Daniel. What happened there, dude?

Someone else said that above, but it actually did work for me. Remember, prior to the show's start, Daniel WAS an asshole and it was just because of the girl's accident that he was trying to change. We were told lots of stories about what a rotten, scumsucking, womanizing, disrespectful, dirtbag Daniel was. He "tried" to change, but tried was the key word. There were a lot of subtle asshole moves he made throughout the season that I noticed it when I rewatched a lt of the first half with my sister, and then took note of when I continued watching. His flip-flopping between Victoria and Conrad, the way he would be so cruel and assy when someone displeased him, the disrespect to Jack, and even Emily in somewhat misogynisitic ways ... and he WAS best friends with Tyler. Which is pretty telling considering what kind of person Tyler was.

I kind of like Faux-manda. She is over-the-top, but at least her impulses feel real. Like here's this not terribly bright girl who keeps attaching herself to all the wrong people. Who thinks she's tough and can take care of herself, but is still a pawn. Except, of course, they made her a murderer, so it's kind of hard to get invested, when you just know it'll destroy her in the end.

Alas, we are definitely in the minority in liking Faux-manda, from what I've read. So I guess maybe we weren't intended to like her? Although, I was "okay" with the, erm, murder because it WAS in character. This is a broken girl who we were introduced to as ultra-violent and mean. We just generally see her nice because she's so attached to Emily, but girl clearly, clearly has a dark side and her attachment to Emily borders on obsession, so her killing Victoria's henchman made perfect sense. But yeah, I don't even remotely expect a happy ending here for her. :( (Which saddens me, because I actually DID really like some of her stuff with Jack, especially the stuff at the end there on his boat.)

I don't care about Emily, to be honest. I REALLY don't care about anyone else. Except Nolan.

Yeah, I definitely like this show more than you, LOL! I do care about Emily, and Jack (outside of the stupid romance with Emily), I LURVE Victoria, and I like that the familial relationships are important. I mean despite not being a big fan of Charlotte, I so felt for her when she thought her mom died on the plane, and was trying to reach Declan. I just do care about most of the characters. Oh, and of course, Nolan. SO MUCH LOVE FOR NOLAN!!!

Edited at 2012-05-25 01:05 pm (UTC)
irlandesakirlandesak on May 25th, 2012 02:30 am (UTC)
I pretty much agree with you on the characters. Nolan is my favorite. I kind of shipped him with Emily early on because I felt they had a good dynamic as opposed to the almost anti-chemistry she shares with Daniel and Jack but in the finale something seemed heightened with them. I know is was likely unintentional since that whole 'siblings' thing the writer intended (if that's the case, incest is best) but the hug and her look towards him before she uttered her last line brought some heat, IMO.

I've always liked Madeline Stowe and she has so much presence as Victoria.

Otherwise, this show has been losing me. I agree with hiddeneloise that it seemed like the show knew what it was doing in the beginning. I loved the Revenge plots but once they broke out into many longer story arcs, I felt they lost their way. Their mystery got muddled to the point that I realized I don't think they knew where they were going with it and I can't even get that excited about the cliffhanger because I'm not entirely sure why I should be. We didn't learn enough about her mother to make me intrigued about her mother. And with the way they pace the show, something tells me we won't get to see the rest of the video.

She has no chemistry with her love interests, unfortunately. I do like that Daniel 'broke bad' so to speak. That was the most interesting episode in the back 9. I thought it may have started to pull the show out of the doldrums it found itself but then it got 'meh' again. I also liked Jack with Amanda but I don't know why Emily still wouldn't tell him the truth if she really loved him. He deserves to know. And that whole relationship that started as a child would be hard to sell even if they had chemistry...which they don't.

The best parts of the finale were definitely Nolan and Emily. I also liked that Declan got pissed at Charlotte. I much prefer that to their 'relationship.' And Victoria is definitely alive. I hope they don't try to keep her beling alive a secret from us.
Arabian: Emily & Nolan01arabian on May 25th, 2012 01:11 pm (UTC)
in the finale something seemed heightened with them

Right? Totally, totally.

know is was likely unintentional since that whole 'siblings' thing the writer intended

Yeah, BUT the actor Gabriel Mann has flat-out refuted that he doesn't play it that way, he doesn't buy it, and is constantly trying to change Kelley's mind, like big-time. (In a very adorable way. He ships Emily/Nolan SO HARD -- he tweets shippy vids of them, and is super-sweet to people who tweet him about E/N, hahahaha!). The problem is that whatever was intended by Kelly, because of the chemistry and connection between the actors and the characters, Emily and Nolan just make the most sense.

the hug and her look towards him before she uttered her last line brought some heat, IMO.

Not just your opinion!

Well, I disagreed with hiddeneloise on quite a few of her complaints, but I do agree in the overall sense that it did get a bit muddled, but I think they managed to pull it all back together and the muddled bit was just a few episodes in the middle for me.

She has no chemistry with her love interests, unfortunately.

THIS!!

I also liked Jack with Amanda but I don't know why Emily still wouldn't tell him the truth if she really loved him.

Kelley said in a post-interview that it had to do with the fact that Emily is so conditioned to always be measured and think things through, that it wouldn't be in character to just tell him then without considering new angles with Amanda (pregnant) in the picture again, and I do agree that's in character.

that whole relationship that started as a child would be hard to sell even if they had chemistry...which they don't.

You know I agree with this.

Victoria is definitely alive. I hope they don't try to keep her beling alive a secret from us.

That would be stupid!

(BTW: I still want you to watch The Vampire Diaries -- first two seasons are on watch instantly on Netflix! Just try to get to episode four, that's what hooked me and was able to make me see past my perception as a stupid CW teenage vampire drama. IT'S SO MUCH MORE!)
ancholiaancholia on May 25th, 2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
I pretty like the show. I love how at the beginning, it was supposed to be kinda a soap and in the end, this is a thriller and suspens show.
Like you, I don't really care about Daniel or Jack. I find the actor playing Daniel a bit dull and Jack... I don't know, it just doesn't work for me. Now, Nolan is very interesting, partly because Gabriel Mann is a very good actor who pley the role with this ambiguity. In the show, we saw him with a man, never a woman so I don't know what to think of his relationship with Emily but there is something between them.
Victoria and Conrad are just perfect, I love how much they hate each other and how much they are manipulatives. They're good villains because they also have some people they care about, so it was really interesting to watch how they took Daniel trial.
I think next year should very interesting to watch. The interactions between the characters are changing.

BTW, did you watched the season finale of Hart of Dixie? What did you think? George is actually becoming irritating and I almost cheered when Lemon punched him, lol.
Arabian: TVarabian on May 27th, 2012 11:58 am (UTC)
I know there's some Daniel, and Daniel/Emily love out there, but not much, and very little for Jack (I've literally never seen any in casual Revenge circles). It really does make me believe that there isn't much support out there and Mike Kelley is just completely ignoring that. Sad.

I don't know what to think of his relationship with Emily but there is something between them

Right? That's how it feels. There is something there. And it's just not a sibling-vibe that I'm getting.

did you watched the season finale of Hart of Dixie? What did you think? George is actually becoming irritating and I almost cheered when Lemon punched him, lol.

I did, George and Zoe are seriously working on my last nerve. I liked that Wade got something, but it's completely playing like George is Zoe's one true love, and ugh, just the way they did that whole last batch of episodes just made both George and Zoe look so bad!
ancholiaancholia on May 27th, 2012 02:45 pm (UTC)
Right? That's how it feels. There is something there. And it's just not a sibling-vibe that I'm getting.

Not sibling-vibe at all. And the weird thing is that I think we got this feeling/impression from Nolan very quickly in the show. He's supportive, admirative, protector... in the meantime he's the one pushing Emily towards Jack.
So, maybe this whole ambiguous relationship is to put on Gabriel Mann way of playing only.
Arabian: Betty01 - Yesarabian on May 27th, 2012 04:35 pm (UTC)
I really do think it's Gabriel Mann. He is clearly NOT down for the whole sibling thing, LOL!
Beckbeck_liz on May 26th, 2012 01:07 am (UTC)
I really, really, really don't buy Jack/Emily, and really don't get why Nolan pushes it. (Unless it's because he's into Jack himself but knows he doesn't have a chance.) Jack would not know what to do with Emily, the real Emily. If she'd told him everything as she'd intended, he probably would have freaked out and stayed freaked out. (I can see freaking out initially and coming to terms, but Jack would NOT have come to terms, I don't think.)

Emily and Nolan so have the best relationship and I do not see it as brother/sister.

This. Although I would be perfectly happy with them being BFFs and going around wreaking revenge on behalf of others, rather like the Leverage crew (initially suggested by [personal profile] giandujakiss.
Arabian: Emily & Nolan01arabian on May 27th, 2012 12:00 pm (UTC)
I really, really, really don't buy Jack/Emily

While I've seen some people rooting for Emily/Daniel, I've never seen any Jack/Emily fans. They just make no sense, and don't work. And it's frustrating that Nolan keeps pushing them, but it's because he cares for both, I guess. It's like Kelley makes Nolan his voice on the show re: Jack/Emily, and the only reason we don't get annoyed with Nolan is because Mann is so awesome.

Although I would be perfectly happy with them being BFFs and going around wreaking revenge on behalf of others, rather like the Leverage crew

I could live with that.
Beckbeck_liz on May 27th, 2012 12:22 pm (UTC)
I could have bought Emily/Daniel up until recently. There was at least a little bit of chemistry there. Not as much as between Nolan and Emily, of course, but at least some. But Jack? Naaaaah.
Arabian: Penny02 - Face Palmarabian on May 27th, 2012 01:54 pm (UTC)
Exactly. That's how I feel about it. This whole fated love story? Dude, they were KIDS! Who haven't seen each other YEARS!