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06 January 2012 @ 03:32 am
3.10 - 'The New Deal' (The Vampire Diaries)  
So, The Vampire Diaries is with us once more. And to that I say: YAY! :D As always thoughts behind the cut.

I'm just going to be obvious and talk about the last scene first, because ... HELLO!!?! OMG! WE FINALLY GOT A REAL-HONEST-TO-GOODNESS RECIPRICAL DAMON/ELENA KISS!!! WHEEEEEEEEEE! Ahem. Okay, onto thinky thoughts.

One of the things that I love so very much about this show is how if you pay attention (okay, and obsessively rewatch the show over and over again), you are rewarded with callbacks galore. This final scene was a shining example of that. Before I go into detail, I want to bring up something that I wrote in response to dreamingahead's "Ordinary People" reaction post.

Actually, I think it's quite possible that they figured [Damon and Elena as endgame] out around episode 1.07 and how it played out onscreen, and that final scene with Damon choosing to compel Jeremy for Elena kinda revealed ALL OF THE STORY POSSIBILITY with these two.
I mention this because a few weeks ago, Julie Plec talked about the moments that made her cry on the show and when talking about the final scene in "Ordinary People," she said that "as far as Damon and Elena in her bedroom, all of their important moments -- their worst moments together and their best moments together -- have happened either in her bedroom or on her front porch. Those are two important locations for us as far as telling the story of their evolving intimacy." When I read that, I immediately went "HAH! I was right!" because the only Damon/Elena moments on the porch were the "you've lost me forever" from "Bad Moon Rising," the Damon/Katherine, but he thinks it's Elena kiss in "Founder's Day" and ... ding, ding, ding! Damon agreeing to compel Jeremy in "Haunted."

This final scene in the episode further confirms my theory because not only were there the obvious parallels to the kiss from "Founder's Day," but there were also plenty with what happened in "Haunted." And it's those rewarding parallels that I was thinking of above. You have similar close-up camera angles during parts of the Damon/Elena kiss to the Damon/Katherine one. Damon doing a bit of honest admittance with Elena. Not just with the porch scenes, but with the bedroom scenes as well coming into play. Damon making it clear he's talking about his love for Elena, moving towards her as he said "Wanting what I want" (and, my goodness, how beautiful was Ian Somerhalder's delivery of that line? Shivers, I tell ya!) was reminiscent of his confession in "Rose." And like in that scene, Elena said his name to stop him. The difference is that in that scene when she said his name, she followed it with "don't go there," and her body tensed, she backed away, her entire presence screamed "don't do this!" In this episode, she said his name, but the tone was not "don't do this," it was "we can't do this," as she was looking at his lips, not backing away, not doing anything but keeping herself from going there. And when Damon walked away, the look on her face, in the line of her frame was one of regret.

Another parallel was to "The Return" when Damon forced a kiss on her. Then when he kissed her, his palms desperately cupping her cheeks, she reached up and just as desperately held onto his hands, trying to stop him. Tonight, when he held her face, her arm rose again to hold onto his hand, but she wasn't stopping him, she was leaning into him, holding onto him, her finger caressing the back of his hand. It was all just so ... aaahhh! All of these moments of intimacy with them, some painful, some remembered, some not, coming home to roost again in this moment and all of it was good. So good. Very similar to what I said about their evolving relationship in my "Homecoming" write-up.

It's as if all of the negatives in past relationships they've both had -- lack of passion with Matt, dishonesty, lack of true communication, agency and partnership with Stefan, compulsion with Andie -- we are beginning to see in a positive way between Damon and Elena. Passion, communication, honesty, true agency, full togetherness, being completely and utterly real with one another ... these two have all of these things in spades.
It's the same here in that all of these negatives in their past are being given a positive do-over.

Almost forgotten in the squee of the OMG!DAMONANDELENAJUSTKISSED!!AAAAH! was the utter and complete awesome prior to the kiss. And there was SO VERY MUCH AWESOME. Elena thanked Damon. Fully, completely, legitimately, absolutely. She thanked him for being there, for his presence, for all he's done, all he's doing, telling him that she wouldn't know what to do without him. I mean, OH. EM. GEE! I just -- gah, that alone would have made this scene so awesomely awesome. But it just kept getting better. The following is more Damon-related, but it segues back into Damon/Elena. First off, after Elena said that to him, all doe-eyes looking up at him, that intimacy between them dancing in the air, Damon totally did the right thing. He didn't want to, it was obvious he wanted to preserve this moment, this 'thereness' between them, but he clenched his jaw and told her a truth that he believed would throw up a wall between that intimacy. But he did it. He told her that Stefan screwed them over to save his life, thus letting her know that "their" Stefan is still in there.

The other Damon-bit in there is how he told her. He said that Stefan screwed them over for a good reason. Meaning that for the first time ever, Damon actually believes that his life being saved IS a good thing; he is finally (finally) starting to believe that he is worth saving. Another callback to the porch scene in "Founder's Day" where he didn't get it at all. And now back to Damon and Elena. Even though Elena now knew this, knew there was a reason, that Stefan might possibly not be lost to them forever, she still kissed him back, leaning into him. YES! Also YES!? That Damon flat-out said he was guilty about wanting Elena since she's "his brother's girl." Hah! Take that haterz who claim that Damon doesn't care at all about Stefan's feelings in this.

Oh, then there was Elena's reaction to the kiss. She looked like he'd taken her breath away, even letting out an exhalation of breath as she turned to watch him leave. And I loved how cool he was with his "good night" and saunter away. Oh, Damon. Oh, Elena. Oh, SQUEE!

Finally, the lyrics that played over that kiss ... veddy, veddy, veddy interesting! Ross Copperman's "Holding On and Letting Go" was the song and here are the lyrics that played over that kiss:

It's everything you wanted
It's everything you don't
It's one door swinging open and one door swinging closed
ome prayers find an answer
Some prayers never know
We're holding on and letting go
Now if that doesn't make ya think of the coming together of Damon and Elena and the dissolution of Stefan and Elena, I don't know what they were thinking picking that song with those lyrics playing over the kiss.

Phew! Of course, that wasn't the only Damon/Elena scene in this episode. Alas one of them was a negative. Damon's lying to Elena (by working with Stefan to bring down Klaus without her knowledge or help). Here we have Elena being completely honest with him about the Rebekah situation, and you could see him biting his tongue, wanting to tell her, but he didn't, he stayed true to Stefan and his loyalty to him this time. I do expect this to blow up in Damon's face when it comes out. And I'd honestly love it if he calls her out on forgiving Stefan his numerous lies/keeping things from her with a wave of her hand with her countering that it matters so much with Damon, it hurts so much because DAMON doesn't lie to her, and since the summer of searching for Stefan, he doesn't keep things from her. I dunno, we'll see what happens.

Of course, there were tons of other Damon/Elena stuff, and pretty squee-worthy at that. Trying to calm her down in the kitchen (!), walking in the woods together, giving her his keys (aww). Heck there was even some Damon/Elena-ness in scenes the other wasn't in. Namely Jeremy's oh-so-subtle questioning that Elena of all people would have a say on who he hangs out with, which completely read to me that he was calling her out on her time spent with Damon. Uh huh. And, of course, the much more obvious comment from Klaus to Elena about the other people she loves aside from Jeremy, "Bonnie, Caroline," a pause with a sly smile as he looked up at Elena, "Damon." (Oh, Klaus, you rogue, you!) Bottom-line there was so much Damon/Elena in this episode, I don't know what to do with myself as a Damon/Elena fan ... and it culminated in a kiss! Did I mention that? Whee!

Ahem, but backing up. Speaking of that Elena/Klaus moment ... wasn't that whole scene supremely awesome? Elena was just so unbelievably bad-ass, I wanted to kiss her. (It's okay, Damon took care of that later. Hee!) I loved her lack of fear, her standing toe to toe with him, and laying the hammer down on him in (a) how he had turned Stefan into a monster (and Klaus' face there, it was so "No, I would never do that to my little buddy! Did I do that?), and (b) how Rebekah now knew that Klaus had killed their mother. Then Elena's all just 'you can show yourself out' and leaves the room with the last word. Damn, I love her so. She is AWESOME! Also awesome, if not as, was the Damon/Klaus scene in the boarding house. The drink-sharing (and, oh my, Damon casually drinking down that vervained-Scotch, good boy!), the terms of endearment, the way you can tell that even with all the problems he causes, Klaus is starting to grow a wee bit fond of Damon. Awesome.

Another aspect of this episode that I really loved was the "atypical family" that the Gilberts have created with Alaric ... and Damon. That's what REALLY got to me. Other than the kitchen scene with Tyler, all of the other "family" scenes involved Damon. Damon casually strolling in when it was Elena and Jeremy, asking Jeremy about why he didn't have vervain on him. And then when Jeremy questioned his plan and said they should leave town, intentional or not, his words played as if he was included Damon in the "they" that should leave town, and I was all AWWWW! because I love Damon and Jeremy.

Speaking of, when I saw that Michael Narducci wrote this episode and then there were the early Jeremy/Tyler scenes, I was kinda bummed because I now expect Narducci to give me some good Damon/Jere sweetness. I shouldn't have doubted, because we definitely got it. Yay! It was also very interesting seeing Damon be there for Jeremy as he was when contrasted against Stefan flat-out not giving a damn about him to Elena leading to a much deserved slap.

Back to the atypical family unite, we also got a slice of it in the kitchen when Elena was asking Damon about Alaric, and Damon casually revealed that he took care of him ... which we already knew because of the Jeremy/Alaric conversation that hinted at Damon helping Ric. And it was just all, I don't know, like they are this little crazy family unit, like Ric is the dad, and Damon is the son/brother-in-law. And it was mostly evident in that beautiful final scene. Even though Elena lamented how Jeremy would react to her having Damon compel him, it was obvious that Jeremy knew exactly what was going to happen. Damon didn't hide it at all, and Jeremy let him. Jeremy didn't fight it, didn't put up any protest and when Damon sat down next to him on the bed, he didn't look away from him. He knew it was coming, probably no clue to what degree, but he knew that Damon was going to compel him ... and he accepted it. Which I get. He almost died because of compulsion that was brought on by betrayal of a friend, then he cross-bowed someone in the back, then meat-cleavered off his head. WHOAH!

This has all just been so much for him. As Elena said, he's only sixteen. And unlike Elena who did have Bonnie and Caroline, plus some stability with Stefan at least six months or so of that first year, Jeremy only had a few months with Bonnie before that was flushed away by ghostly visitors from his past, and no permanence in friendship. And so now he's going, for how long, we have no idea. It may be like when Tyler (and Michael Trevino) left for a huge chunk of episodes, or it may be sooner that we see him. We'll find out. All we do know is now Elena effectively has no long-term family with her. But at least this one, she's doing her damnest to keep safe.

Speaking of family, Damon and Stefan, Stefan and Damon. These two, they really do love each other so much, and Stefan really, really loves Damon. He seems to be the only one that gets to Saint Stefan, Ripper Stefan, on/off humanity Switch Stefan and everything in between. Oh, when Damon kept stabbing him to find out why he screwed their plan, and Stefan finally burst out that he did it to save Damon, I was all 'ohhh, my Salvatore boys!' And then Damon stabbed him again for saving his life.

What was so awesome though is that once the hissy-fit was out of the way, they talked it out, then they came to an agreement and now they are working (secretly!) together. And whee! Klaus just doesn't get what he messed with by trying to take out Damon. He probably still thinks that Elena is the trigger with Stefan, but she so is not. It's Damon. It's always been Damon. And you, Klaus, were nothing ever to Stefan but a replacement for the brother that rejected him.

But they are making their way back to each other, slowly, surely, they are. They are, they will. YAY!

Okay then, some random thoughts ...

- Speaking of that final atypical family scene, a small moment, but I loved Damon checking with Elena before adding Alaric's suggestion to the compulsion. When it comes to Jeremy, she gets final say-so.

- Even though Jeremy was a jerky-boy and totally deserved to be dumped by Bonnie, I did love that when Elena told her that Klaus tried to kill Jeremy, she immediately caved and asked what could she do. Oh, Bonnie.

- Hmm, will Rebekah remember that Elena stabbed her in the back, and not the front as Klaus did? Speaking of, oh, Klaus. Dude, you severely have issues. And I was already pretty dang sure that he did indeed kill MamaOriginal, but his reaction to Elena telling him that and then the re-staking of Rebekah confirmed that it was indeed the truth.

- Heh, when Damon and Stefan played darts in season 01, Damon was really crappy at it if his score compared to Stefan was any indication. Apparently, he's been practicing while in Mystic Falls and is doing much better.

- Not much with her, but I did like the little moment with Dr. Meredith Fell. (Oh, and hi there, Paul Wesley's wife!) Interesting that they went from "Mary" in the sides to "Meredith" when there's a Meredith in the books. Julie Plec talked about that in an interview ... that I will look at tomorrow. :)

- So I'm thinking (hoping) that, yes, Bonnie is okay with Damon because she actually asked Elena how he was doing and there seemed a teeny touch of concern there, yay! Also, I would still prefer a bit more 'yo, Stef! you suck' considering all the heat Damon has gotten for his misdeeds, but at least Bonnie was not very friendly with Stefan.

- Speaking of, I was at first peeved that the ghosts seemed all fine and dandy with Stefan, but not Damon. sarcasticcheese then pointed out that Stefan had already made the 'we hate Klaus more than you and your bro' deal with them because once Damon was a part of that deal, they stopped messing with his daylight ring. (Though, how Damon shot through the house to avoid the sun's rays was pretty durn cool!)

- Yup, so Damon remains the truth-teller/upcoming plot points king. He said in "Disturbing Behavior" that something might be wrong with Ric's ring. Did anyone pay attention? No, and now look what happened. Still, yay, Damon gave Ric blood to heal him. I called it! Go me!

- The Tyler/Jeremy scenes showed me once again that while I don't care for Tyler/Caroline much at all, he's really good with Jeremy. Trevino and Steven R. McQueen have great chemistry. I admit, I also liked the Tyler/Klaus scene, especially Klaus telling him kindly to get the fuck over his guilty conscience. Hee.

- Random shallow ... McQueen looked REALLY good in this episode. (Yes, yes, Ian did too, but he's always beautiful and I'm just peeved that they clearly did a refresher on the horrible dye job and not a cut. Sigh.)

- I don't know, I just don't know how they get back to Stefan and Elena from this. I really don't. I mean, is his switch on or off? If it's off, yeah, okay I guess that explains him being SUCH a dick to Elena. But if it's off, that means, that even off, he still holds on so completely to his love for Damon, but not Elena. And, yeah, I just don't see how we get back to Stefan/Elena ever fully from this point. (Not that I'd complain if we didn't.)

- No Caroline makes me sad. :(

- ETA: One more parallel with "Founder's Day" that I forgot to mention. Damon called Jeremy out on being a dick to his sister thinking he should treat her better. In this episode, he told Elena that Jeremy is lucky to have a sister like her. Awww. :)

- Finally, I love how when Damon's loved ones (ie, Elena and Alaric) are in danger from someone in a wary situation, he does the moving in front of them for protection thing. He wasn't all I AM MAN! I PROTECT WEAK WOMAN! with Elena, he let her stand toe to toe with Klaus and didn't interfere, only moving slightly before her (all three times) that Klaus started to move in closer. I love that move of Damon's. :)

So, YAY! My show is back. I am happy. And I can't even be remotely objective whether this episode was great or awesome because I'm just OMG! WE FINALLY GOT A REAL-HONEST-TO-GOODNESS RECIPRICAL DAMON/ELENA KISS!!! WHEEEEEEEEEE!

Yup. :D

ETA: It's been 24 hours. I changed the icon. :)
 
 
 
Vickie: Ian-Delena Cosmic Lovesarcasticcheese on January 6th, 2012 01:10 pm (UTC)
Meaning that for the first time ever, Damon actually believes that his life being saved IS a good thing; he is finally (finally) starting to believe that he is worth saving.

This was a big deal to me too. It shows just how much his character has evolved since Season 1, and how he has evolved for the better.

McQueen looked REALLY good in this episode. I'm going to miss teh pretteh that is McQueen. I hope he isn't gone long.

Which leads me to... In the beginning of the season, emphasis was put on how humans can overcome compulsion if they basically try hard enough. Knowing this show, that was probably a forecast of how Jeremy could come back.

ETA: EVERYONE is reeling over the lyrics

Edited at 2012-01-06 01:35 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)02arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:08 pm (UTC)
it shows just how much his character has evolved since Season 1, and how he has evolved for the better.

I agree; and I was pleasantly surprised because it didn't seem like he got it when he found out from Stefan, so it was nice to see that upon some reflection he is getting it.

emphasis was put on how humans can overcome compulsion if they basically try hard enough. Knowing this show, that was probably a forecast of how Jeremy could come back.

Hmm.... I always thought it would be about Damon (or Stefan) eventually overcoming compulsion, but yeah, it could be about Jeremy too.
x5valex5vale on January 6th, 2012 01:17 pm (UTC)
PERFECT. this post is just perfection :)

I agree that Damon lying to Elena is not a good thing, especially now that Elena has been totally honest with him. Let's say that Elena freed Rebekah (missing Barbie!Klaus btw) and Damon did lie to her to protect her.

You know Elena is just a young girl with so much hate and danger around her. I understand why Damon wants to shield her. It's not just because he loves her, it's because she's alone, fighting a battle which is so much bigger than her.

I have nothing to add about your analysis of the porch scene. I can only say two things made really melt me: when Damon said "Stefan screw us over for a good reason" for all you wrote about it and when Elena tightened her hand around Damon's wrist. Subtle, but meaningful...I'd like to know if it was scripted or if Nina Dobrev did it natutally, considering that she is with Ian.


And whee! Klaus just doesn't get what he messed with by trying to take out Damon. He probably still thinks that Elena is the trigger with Stefan, but she so is not. It's Damon. It's always been Damon. And you, Klaus, were nothing ever to Stefan but a replacement for the brother that rejected him.

SO MUCH THIS! Stefan didn't fight for Elena. In Homecoming he did fight his "not caring"attitude for Damon. I think that Stefan had a choice after Homecoming. He could have come back and fight to have his life back. Fight for Elena and with Damon and Elena to get rid of Klaus, but he didn't. He chose revenge.

And what about Damon's reaction to Stefan revelation? Damon was like "stop saving me" because "I am not" worth saving if the consenquences must be to have Klaus killing everyone. Damon risked his life to kill Klaus and he was ready to die himself to stop everything. This is what he was telling to his brother. He was saying that everything would have been over and that Stefan should stop to screw up with his life for saving him because what Damon wants is Stefan to be safe.

BROTHERLY LOVE WOULD KILL ME DEAD!

DELENA ALREADY DID.
Arabian: Damon & Elena14arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:12 pm (UTC)
I agree that Damon lying to Elena is not a good thing, especially now that Elena has been totally honest with him.

I'm still hoping that's going to come out sooner rather than later.

when Elena tightened her hand around Damon's wrist. Subtle, but meaningful...I'd like to know if it was scripted or if Nina Dobrev did it natutally, considering that she is with Ian.

I tend to give them the benefit the doubt that they are being professional. Ian's stated a few times, and I'm sure she has too, but I haven't read/seen all of her interviews like him, that once he's there, he is totally in character as Damon. In the rush of the emotions and stuff, they are playing their characters. And it would make perfect sense for ELENA to act that way. Were it Nina-Ian related, there probably would have been a lot more reciprocation, LOL!

SO MUCH THIS! Stefan didn't fight for Elena. In Homecoming he did fight his "not caring"attitude for Damon. I think that Stefan had a choice after Homecoming. He could have come back and fight to have his life back. Fight for Elena and with Damon and Elena to get rid of Klaus, but he didn't. He chose revenge.

EXACTLY!

Damon risked his life to kill Klaus and he was ready to die himself to stop everything. This is what he was telling to his brother. He was saying that everything would have been over and that Stefan should stop to screw up with his life for saving him because what Damon wants is Stefan to be safe.

Yup. :)

Edited at 2012-01-08 04:12 pm (UTC)
Azmiri Sultana Mridul: pic#115293165mridul777 on January 6th, 2012 01:37 pm (UTC)
You and I seem to agree on a LOT of things..... Although that's not something new at all... LoL :D

The Kiss......
I think season 3 has some epic historical moments, that we will always always remember, no matter what happens.... The kiss being one of them. The parallels it had with the "Founder's Day" kiss is very prominent. And this moment here..... however miserable the last scene in "Rose" made me..this scene made me THAT much happier.... so many parallels, whatever went wrong there is rectified in here... :D

The atypical family. It's weird but they function so very well...... Everybody is in sync with others.... Even during Jeremy's compulsion, he was calm and attentive, like he knew what's coming, but he didn't put up a fight. And Damon's checking out Elena's approval of Alaric's words.... His (Damon) expression throughout this whole compulsion, was like them bidding him good bye to a new and happy life... reminded me of how Tyler left last season.. but Jeremy's leaving is more solved and explained.


I was power watching Supernatural throughout the hiatus and each time I saw Dean and Sam and their closeness, I so wished (unintentionally sometimes) to see the somewhat similar kinda equation between Stefan and Damon.

No Caroline..... :( :/ ..... Hopefully the next episode will quench my thirst...... And did you see the Promo's for the next one..especially the extended promo, you should, that one's maybe the BIG STEFAN/ELENA emotional episode Nina talked about, the last scene is really sad..... The way Elena says "You had me!!"

Bonnie.... I thought she looked so pretty in here... even when she JUST had a nightmare and woke up from sleep..... Although I hoped she would be a little bit resentful towards Stefan, but I guess the goal here is more important than core feelings. AND...do you think she still feels like she owes Stefan because he saved her life? Thought just crossed my mind...... Although Damon saved her life as well, but.. never mind.


Hmm, will Rebekah remember that Elena stabbed her in the back, and not the front as Klaus did? Speaking of, oh, Klaus. Dude, you severely have issues. And I was already pretty dang sure that he did indeed kill MamaOriginal, but his reaction to Elena telling him that and then the re-staking of Rebekah confirmed that it was indeed the truth.


I tried really hard, but I failed to have any sympathy or even feel bad for Klaus. He is tortured, sad, and has issues...but he still deserves what his fate might bring him...which might not be all good.

Arabian: Damon & Elena08arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:15 pm (UTC)
I think season 3 has some epic historical moments, that we will always always remember, no matter what happens.... The kiss being one of them. The parallels it had with the "Founder's Day" kiss is very prominent. And this moment here..... however miserable the last scene in "Rose" made me..this scene made me THAT much happier.... so many parallels, whatever went wrong there is rectified in here... :D

Right, that's what I loved SO MUCH about it. It's like I said above, it's like it's making better all the negatives in their past. SQUEE!

that one's maybe the BIG STEFAN/ELENA emotional episode Nina talked about, the last scene is really sad..... The way Elena says "You had me!!"

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is the S/E one that Nina mentioned. Eh, sad, whatever. I'm so over them at this point -- what can I say? Season 02 S/E REALLY did a bad number on me -- that I don't care. When they had their one scene in this episode, I literally rolled my eyes. I am just sooooooooooooooooo over them.

Klaus deserves to DIE!DIE!DIE!
Cassandra Elise: damon/elena bwcassandra_elise on January 6th, 2012 01:53 pm (UTC)
Squeeeeeeeeeee! I was waiting for this recap. Thanks for spoiling me rotten! (I'm not even on season 3 yet, but I had to know if there was a kiss. :)
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)01arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:16 pm (UTC)
You're so bad, LOL! Eventually you'll catch up. Eventually.
traciaknowstraciaknows on January 6th, 2012 02:00 pm (UTC)
Oh, how I love your thinky thoughts!

If Damon/Elena aren't the end game I'm going to be sp pissed.

I so want to see Damon overhearing Elena sticking up for him- especially to Stefan or Bonnie.

Fingers crossed for more porch kisses!
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)04arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
Oh, how I love your thinky thoughts!

Aww, thank you. :)

If Damon/Elena aren't the end game I'm going to be so pissed.

I honestly do NOT see how they aren't at this point.

I so want to see Damon overhearing Elena sticking up for him- especially to Stefan or Bonnie.

Sigh, me too. ME TOO!
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Arabian: Ian Somerhalder06arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:21 pm (UTC)
Anyone who says that Damon and Elena aren't real, that has nothing changed and/or are just lust are really seeing what they want to see and completely ignoring the reality of the writing. Period.

And, yeah, I think Damon lying will come back to bite him in the butt a bit - especially since Elena was completely honest with him.

It's certainly likely, but I'm actually still hoping it's going to come out really soon and that while Elena gets frustrated, she tells him to stick with it because Damon is clearly the key to Stefan's humanity and if he loses Damon, he might really lose the fight forever. After all, she easily dealt with and accepted all of Stefan's lies/omissions for her protection.

I love so much that it is still Damon and only Damon who can get through to him.

I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't catch that bit about the doctors name being changed to Meredith. Well, now fandom has their Meredith and she was with Alaric in the books too! I wonder how long she is going to stick around? hmm

I know she's around at least four more episodes, but we'll see. I think if she fits in well with the cast, and the audience takes to her, she might wind up a regular cast member seeing as how the character is such a HUGE part of the books. Remember, Ric was added as recurring in early season 01 and didn't become a main cast member until half-way through that season.
wiccabuffy: TVD - Alaric Cheers animatedwiccabuffy on January 6th, 2012 05:34 pm (UTC)
Delena kiss, Jeremy badassery, MEREDITH finally on the show, Ric being the Gilbert family guardian, Team Salvatore Brothers. Honestly the episode was quite perfect & heartbreaking. And wonderful.
Arabian: Damon04arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:22 pm (UTC)
I just have absolutely nothing to add to this. MUAH!
Florenciaflorencia7 on January 6th, 2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
I love your posts so much ♥ ♥

You mentioned every single thing that there was to mention about the kiss, all the awesome callbacks! & I'm SO with you about the Elena/Damon/Alaric/Jeremy as a family! I love them as a family so much.

I just watched the episode a couple of hours ago so I'm still not able to think clearly or even breathe evenly! LOL
Arabian: Damon & Elena08arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:24 pm (UTC)
I love your posts so much ♥ ♥

Aww, thank you. ♥

You mentioned every single thing that there was to mention about the kiss, all the awesome callbacks!

I was just amazed that they managed to have just about everything of significance in either dialogue, camera angle, location, hand placement, etc. to call back to their major moments in her bedroom and the porch. AMAHZING!

I'm SO with you about the Elena/Damon/Alaric/Jeremy as a family! I love them as a family so much.

And I loved that so much. Just, gah, the E/A/J stuff is great, but then that Damon was so clearly a part of it too ........ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
archangel_blood: giftpamsarchangel_blood on January 6th, 2012 10:07 pm (UTC)
Oh this episode, my God! I loved every single thing about it. But honestly, I barely noticed anything not D/E related, so... Yeah, I was on a Delena high, ok?

I don't actually have anything to add because your thoughts on the D/E scenes match what I posted in the Delena LJ community yesterday almost word for word. lol Great minds and all.

Sigh. It was a great night, wasn't it?

Oh, and on a completely random note:
Elena was just so unbelievably bad-ass, I wanted to kiss her. (It's okay, Damon took care of that later. Hee!) Seriously cracked me up. :D
Arabian: NinaDobrev04arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:26 pm (UTC)
I'm SO with you about the Elena/Damon/Alaric/Jeremy as a family! I love them as a family so much.

I think this one is going to be almost like watching anew when I sit down and rewatch the whole thing because I was so EEE!DAMON/ELENA-NESS!!!!!

I don't actually have anything to add because your thoughts on the D/E scenes match what I posted in the Delena LJ community yesterday almost word for word. lol Great minds and all.

I love the show (and its characters) so much that I can't take the non-D/E dislike on that comm, so I don't read much there, but based on our discussion in these threads, I am not at ALL surprised!!! (Would you mind replying to me here with what you wrote there? I'd love to read it!)

Seriously cracked me up. :D

Thank you! I thought it was funny. Hee!
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sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Text: insert fangirl squeebadboy_fangirl on January 6th, 2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
Well, I buy it, kit and kaboodle, because seriously, "Haunted" is where I went from simply drooling over how HAWT Ian Somerhalder is to being really, really invested in Damon as a character. Until Julie tells us otherwise, this theory ought to go in the Damon and Elena BIBLE, as far as I'm concerned.

I love Jeremy/Tyler. I'm so bummed it was short-lived. Hopefully McQueen will be back and we'll get more of it. They just play really well off of each other. Always very authentic.

And for the fun of it, an all-around SQUEE. They finally kissed! And it was glorious!
Arabian: Damon & Elena17arabian on January 8th, 2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
Well, I buy it, kit and kaboodle, because seriously, "Haunted" is where I went from simply drooling over how HAWT Ian Somerhalder is to being really, really invested in Damon as a character. Until Julie tells us otherwise, this theory ought to go in the Damon and Elena BIBLE, as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah. I admit I was a bit bummed she didn't mention it in her post-mortem on it, but I can see why not as it would take a lot more breakdown to include that one for the non die-hard masses, LOL! So, yeah, bible to me. :)

Re: Tyler/Jeremy -- yeah, they really play off well together. So much better than Tyler/Caroline in my opinion.

They finally kissed! And it was glorious!

*sigh* As we knew it would be!!! :D D:D :D
Diana: Vampire Diaries - Road Trip!butterfly on January 7th, 2012 01:46 am (UTC)
THIS SHOW! ♥

It's the same here in that all of these negatives in their past are being given a positive do-over.

Yes, I love that. It's not just that they have learned from their past choices with other people; they've learned from the mistakes they've made with each other.

Hmm, will Rebekah remember that Elena stabbed her in the back, and not the front as Klaus did?

Since it takes time to revive, I'm not sure she'll notice. IDK.

I don't know, I just don't know how they get back to Stefan and Elena from this. I really don't. I mean, is his switch on or off? If it's off, yeah, okay I guess that explains him being SUCH a dick to Elena. But if it's off, that means, that even off, he still holds on so completely to his love for Damon, but not Elena. And, yeah, I just don't see how we get back to Stefan/Elena ever fully from this point. (Not that I'd complain if we didn't.)

Yeah, I don't see any plausible road either.
Arabian: Damon & Elena08arabian on January 9th, 2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
it’s not just that they have learned from their past choices with other people; they've learned from the mistakes they've made with each other.

Exactly, and that’s what I absolutely love so much about how they are writing Damon/Elena. And as painful as last season was as a Damon/Elena fan, we really are getting in payoff for what happened. (As honestly I did think we would even though it was frustrating at the time. So yay!)

Re: Rebekah’s daggering -- Since it takes time to revive, I'm not sure she'll notice. IDK.

Ugh, I didn’t even think of that, but yeah, unless she notices the rip in the front of her dress, you’re right!

Re: S/E coming back from this -- Yeah, I don't see any plausible road either.

Exactly, I just do not know. I do worry that because it’s so very much expected that they might feel they have to shoehorn it back in even though it doesn’t feel right. I hope not obviously, but we’ll see.

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Heather-Annlinsell_farm on January 7th, 2012 02:22 am (UTC)
I hope Jeremy isn't gone for good and YES, Steve McQueen was particularly HOT in this episode!!!

No Caroline makes me sad also, but there was plenty of other GREAT stuff - like, oh, Elena & Damon kissing!!! - to keep me distracted ;)

Great insight about their atypical family unit - Damon was definitely included in that and it's another lovely detail that just makes me adore this show even more!

I was totally there with you in the 'Ohhh, my Salvatore boys' during that Stefan/Damon scene. They are just so messed up and dysfunctional, but devoted to each other. It's wonderful to watch.

Elena taking on Klaus was inspiring and may have been the thing that launched me into a full-blown girl-crush on her. I felt so many things for her in this episode, but Strong!Elena and Kick-Ass!Elena are just all kinds of awesome!!

I ADORE Damon's move of edging in front of Elena when Klaus got into his comfort zone. :)

I'm still grinning ear-to-ear about Damon & Elena finally having a REAL honest-to-goodness, uninterrupted, reciprocated kiss!!!
Arabian: Damon & Elena08arabian on January 9th, 2012 10:38 pm (UTC)
I hope Jeremy isn't gone for good and YES, Steve McQueen was particularly HOT in this episode!!!

Me too. I'd like to see him back before ep 15 or 16. I certainly don't want him gone as long as Tyler was.

Great insight about their atypical family unit - Damon was definitely included in that

It really seemed like it to me.

I ADORE Damon's move of edging in front of Elena when Klaus got into his comfort zone. :)

I love that he does it for Alaric too! :D

I'm still grinning ear-to-ear about Damon & Elena finally having a REAL honest-to-goodness, uninterrupted, reciprocated kiss!!!

I KNOW!! ME TOO!!!
emiv: tvd | damonemiv on January 7th, 2012 06:36 am (UTC)
I have to admit, at first I wasn’t wowed by the kiss, but I think that was a combination of disbelief (after such a long wait, it was almost to good to be true, you know?) and self-preservation; I was so afraid that Elena would pull away or be unhappy or that Stefan would show up that it kind of killed my enjoyment a bit. That being said, my brain has yet to process all the D/E awesomeness of last night’s episode, so I will simply comment with I AGREE SO HARD WITH ALL POINTS. ;)

He knew it was coming, probably no clue to what degree, but he knew that Damon was going to compel him ... and he accepted it.

I loved that he accepted it, he didn’t try to fight it at all. I also love how gentle Damon was about it; it was obvious that he was doing it not only for Elena, but because he cared about Jeremy’s well-being as well.

And you, Klaus, were nothing ever to Stefan but a replacement for the brother that rejected him.

THIS. I keep waiting for Damon to go all “Stefan already has a brother, bitch.” on Klaus. Poor Klaus, he needs to work on his relationships with his actual brothers (which would start with unkilling them) and leave the imperfect perfection of the Salvatore brothers alone. That being said...

Also awesome, if not as, was the Damon/Klaus scene in the boarding house. The drink-sharing (and, oh my, Damon casually drinking down that vervained-Scotch, good boy!), the terms of endearment, the way you can tell that even with all the problems he causes, Klaus is starting to grow a wee bit fond of Damon. Awesome.?

There were so many things I loved about this episode, but this one was a high point for me. Damon. Klaus. Drinking. Snarking. Man, I could have watched 20 minutes of just that.

But they are making their way back to each other, slowly, surely, they are. They are, they will.

Yes, they are and it will be glorious. ;)

I love that move of Damon's. :)

Me too!

Side note: I always love reading your reviews and often look forward to them, even if I don't comment too often. Just wanted to let you know. ;)
Arabian: Damon & Elena17arabian on January 9th, 2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
I have to admit, at first I wasn’t wowed by the kiss, but I think that was a combination of disbelief (after such a long wait, it was almost to good to be true, you know?) and self-preservation; I was so afraid that Elena would pull away or be unhappy or that Stefan would show up that it kind of killed my enjoyment a bit. That being said, my brain has yet to process all the D/E awesomeness of last night’s episode, so I will simply comment with I AGREE SO HARD WITH ALL POINTS. ;)

I think it didn't strike me as not being wary simply because I actually always am until the episode is over. I keep waiting to be hit with the Stefan/Elena-slam and so reserve my full-on squee re: Damon/Elena until the episdoe is over. By that point, I was feeling pretty dang positive and was just so engaged in the kiss itself that I didn't have time to fear the worst ... and so it was alllllllllll good!

I loved that he accepted it, he didn’t try to fight it at all.

I find it interesting that there are people who genuinely did NOT see it that way. I watched it with my sister last night and I commented on how Jeremy realized it was happening, and my sister didn't see it that way at all and basically was saying how she did it before, how could she do that, he'd never forgive her, and it was interesting because a lot of how she phrased stuff was EXACTLY what Elena said to Damon later. But my point is that some of us really saw him getting it, but others didn't.

I also love how gentle Damon was about it; it was obvious that he was doing it not only for Elena, but because he cared about Jeremy’s well-being as well.

I was just melting over how wonderful and sweet and just plain AWESOME Damon was with Jeremy. The thing about drinking the beer is kinda what stood out because that was nothing Elena would ever say, meaning that Damon himself was thinking of something fun and naughty for Jeremy. He wasn't thinking of Elena's concerns and wishes for Jeremy at that point clearly, but his own for the kid. And I loved that.

I keep waiting for Damon to go all “Stefan already has a brother, bitch.”

And I can sooooooooo hear Damon saying that, haha! Maybe one day.

Poor Klaus, he needs to work on his relationships with his actual brothers (which would start with unkilling them) and leave the imperfect perfection of the Salvatore brothers alone. That being said...

True fact!

There were so many things I loved about this episode, but this one was a high point for me. Damon. Klaus. Drinking. Snarking. Man, I could have watched 20 minutes of just that.

Really, I agree. Basically I LOVED every moment with Damon, Jeremy and Klaus. (I'd say Elena, but the scene with Stefan was meh because I'm me, and the Bonnie/Elena scenes weren't terribly awesome.)

Side note: I always love reading your reviews and often look forward to them, even if I don't comment too often. Just wanted to let you know. ;)

Thank you so much for saying so. I do love when you comment though as I like reading your thoughts even if we don't always agree. :)
vanimy: D/Evanimy on January 7th, 2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
AS USUAL I LOVE YOUR REVIEW AND EVERYTHING IT CHOOSES TO BE.

Delena - I can't even. It's like it's not real you know, I'm going to rewatch that scene over and over again (and the gifs that must be all over tumblr by now!). I need to find myself an icon of it ASAP. I'm also very intrigued about what's going to happen now Elena kissed him back.

I'm gonna miss Jeremy. :(( and i loved your observations about their atypical family. And family was again put on the forefront this week. Elena and her bro, Damon and his bro, Klaus and his sister.
Arabian: Damon & Elena08arabian on January 9th, 2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
AS USUAL I LOVE YOUR REVIEW AND EVERYTHING IT CHOOSES TO BE.

Aww, thank you so much!! :D

Delena - I can't even. It's like it's not real you know, I'm going to rewatch that scene over and over again (and the gifs that must be all over tumblr by now!). I need to find myself an icon of it ASAP. I'm also very intrigued about what's going to happen now Elena kissed him back.

I know, I keep watching it over and over again and am still all a'squee!!! I REALLY am curious to see how they'll interact next episode!

I'm gonna miss Jeremy. :(( and i loved your observations about their atypical family. And family was again put on the forefront this week. Elena and her bro, Damon and his bro, Klaus and his sister.

This show and its love of family. How anyone can watch The Vampire Diaries and not see that family is at the heart of everything is truly beyond me. :shakes head:
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Arabian: Damon & Elena17arabian on January 10th, 2012 12:03 am (UTC)
LOL this is my modus operandi for watching TVD.

So nice to know I'm not the only one. I've already watched this episode fully twice, and most of the scenes (ie, all but the Bonnie, Stefan, Klaus scenes) a third time.

Yeah, that was my reading of it too. Very different from the last time he kissed her.

VERY differnt and I loved that oh so similar callback that allowed us to so clearly SEE the difference.

HIS FAAAAACE when she said it killed me.

I KNOW, RIGHT!?!??! You could see that he was having a new experience and it was a GOOD one. And it's WHY he couldn't not tell her about Stefan because he wants to continue to be there, be real with her. *sigh*

I LOLed at that too. Damon got his cowboy moment, and Elena looked as though she was trying to remember how to breathe.

The difference in their reactions was frickin' awesome!!!

The lyrics were way too obvious to be anything but intentional. I noticed them right away, even over my shock.

I make a habit of paying attention to the lyrics and we've been told they matter -- and they really signal GOOD things for D/E -- but it's like EVERYONE noticed these bad boys!

You know, I really don't ship Tyler/Caroline either. They've had some great moments, but honestly, 2x13 killed any chance I had of shipping them. I love Caroline to bits, and I've never been able to forgive Tyler for hesitating to let her out of her torture cage.

I agree with that aspect, but for me it was also because Stefan and Caroline had that doorway scene of utter, smushy perfection and that on top of Tyler's douchery made any potential like for T/C to forever go bye-bye. (To be fair, I was already die-hard shipping S/C from "Bad Moon Rising," "Brave New World" and "Katerina.")

I realize that a) Tyler is an abuse victim and b) this may be hypocritical since I love Damon even when he does horrible, inexcusable things, but it doesn't change anything. Emotionally, that moment was just a dealbreaker for me.

Yup. He HESITATED in saving her. UGH! I guess I'm okay with it with Damon because his actions come from a place of love (no matter how twisted and messed up it is sometimes). This came from Tyler being a jerk basically.

RE: Getting back to S/E -- I've been wondering about this too, and I can't really see it either. I don't want Elena to run into Stefan's arms when he eventually becomes Good Stefan again, not just because I'm biased, but more importantly because that would be out of character for everybody, especially after all the time they've spent this season on Elena's learning to live without him. I just don't see how they can ever be the same after all the stuff that's happened.

RIGHT?!?! I said above to butterfly, I do worry that because it’s so very much expected that they might feel they have to shoehorn it back in even though it doesn’t feel right. I hope not obviously, but we’ll see. Elena has just grown so much WITHOUT Stefan, and let's face it, WITH Damon.

I wouldn't like it if I thought it was a possessive or condescending move, but it's not that he thinks Elena isn't capable; it's just that he loves her and it's second nature to put himself between her and harm.

Yes, this. *sigh*
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