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17 September 2011 @ 10:07 pm
'Ringer' and 'The Secret Circle' thoughts  
Well, I finally watched Ringer and The Secret Circle. I really, really liked one. The other? Not so much.

I really wish I could say that the one I really, really liked was Ringer, if only because it means that I'd want to watch the show beyond Jason Dohring's upcoming appearance. Alas, yeah, no. It was just silly? And cheap-looking. Both Bridget and Siobhan were not likable characters, for different reasons. Siobhan is a cold-hearted bitch, and Bridget is pathetic. Her sweeping into Siobhan's life just seemed so incredible, and her explanation just didn't work, definitely not as presented. I just, yeah, I wasn't impressed. And I couldn't even begin to judge SMG's acting as the twins because in "their" scenes together, all I could concentrate on was how bad the technical aspect was. It looked like cheap, split-screen. It was obvious it was the same actress cut into the same shot.

Normally, I probably wouldn't be so picky, but The Vampire Diaries has had several scenes with Elena and Katherine (both played by Nina Dobrev) and the technical aspect is completely seamless. It truly comes across as if you have two different actresses on screen together. Then there is the acting, where you can completely tell them apart, and they seem like two distinct characters. Based on the little bit of Siobhan we saw, there didn't seem to be that huge a difference between her and Bridget.

Hopefully it gets better. Of course, even if it doesn't, I'll stick around for my beloved Jason.

As for the one I really, really liked, that would be The Secret Circle. I thought all of the young actors were good, there was already some depth and interesting character stuff to the youngin's and the adults aren't idiots. I'm intrigued already by different aspects, and the overall look of the show was gorgeous. Brit Robertson is wonderful; Thomas Dekker is adorable. Phoebe Tonkin deserves all of the praise she's getting simply because we're already seeing some dimension to her bitchy Faye. And Shelly Henning shocked the hell out of me. She was wooden, charisma-less and plain awful as Stephanie for four years on Days of Our Lives. She was charming and quite good as Diana in this.

The bottom-line is that this is a great companion piece to The Vampire Diaries, fitting quite smoothly with it (much better than Nikita -- which I also enjoy). In fact, this Pilot was loads better than TVD's Pilot. (Not that I expect it to reach TVD-levels of awesome because a show as awesome as TVD comes along once in a blue moon, but this looks promising to be a pretty good damn hour of television following the awesome.) Everything was gelling and just ... working. I really liked it.
 
 
 
bluesuzannebluesuzanne on September 18th, 2011 02:53 am (UTC)
I do hope the technical aspects will improve beyond the pilot episode, but I personally enjoyed Ringer from a story point of view.

As for Bridget and Siobhan being unsympathetic/one-note characters, if I were you I'd give it a few episodes before I wrote them off - I wasn't exactly dazzled by Elena's likability and complexity in the pilot episode of The Vampire Diaries. I'm sure they've got a whole lot more layers they're planning to show us, especially Siobhan.

I get the comparison to Elena and Katherine, but I think it's important to remember that Elena and Katherine are such radically different people and such radically different beings altogether. Bridget and Siobhan are twins who've grown up together, rather than doppelgangers who've never met, so I wouldn't necessarily expect there to be as dramatic a difference in their voices and mannerisms.

ANYWAY. Keep watching for Jason (<3333333) and see if it picks up for you. Here's hoping!

I love Thomas Dekker, but I'm not sure I can watch TSC. The premise really didn't work for me... but if I keep hearing good things I might cave and give it a try - it paid off with The Vampire Diaries, after all ♥
Arabian: Damon04arabian on September 18th, 2011 03:05 am (UTC)
I do have hope it will get better, and I DID think of that aspect that Elena/Katherine are so different, whereas Bridget/Siobhan wouldn't be that different. I'm not giving up yet, don't worry.

TSC was enjoyable; I liked it.
ThroughAnAmberFocusamberfocus on September 18th, 2011 03:37 am (UTC)
I haven't watched Ringer yet, only wanted to for SMG, but that sure doesn't sound promising. As for The Secret Circle, I wasn't really that impressed by it, but I will keep watching for a while for Britt and Thomas as I adored them both in Life Unexpected and Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles, two shows that were hands above better than this, but maybe they'll bring it up to their level or it will find its feet soon. I hope so because I don't want to see their talents wasted.
harsens_robharsens_rob on September 18th, 2011 04:38 am (UTC)
I'm going to agree
I wasn't impressed either.


I'm not as attracted to the stars, so this is going to have to be better nearly immediately for me to keep up with it. I know that "The Vampire Diaries" is a big hit, and I'd never disparage anyone for liking what they liked, but I always felt "I've seen this already... in Buffy".

Plus, it feels like the main character (I can't even remember her damned name) is Mary-Sue-ish ... of course, she's the strongest witch, even though she doesn't even know about her powers. Of course, she alone, can stop the 'rebellious witch's' spellcraft, even without ever casting a spell. Of course, her destiny is with the hot, young male witch....

*Urgh* They need to undercut her character, post-haste, to show she isn't perfect and can make some really serious mistakes, or I just won't be able to stick with it.
harsens_robharsens_rob on September 18th, 2011 04:29 am (UTC)
I was also disappointed....
I think that SMG is wonderful, I really do.

But, there were extreme problems with this pilot script. I think this might have been great if the WB had given this premiere (which they were so obviously enthusiastic about promoting) a two hour episode [or 90 minutes, I won't pretend to be an expert in script-writing] to flesh out Siobhan before Bridget replaces her.

It just felt so rushed in order to get Bridget in place. This made it feel as rushed as it must have been. It felt like there was some sort of 'executive meddling' or that the behind-the-scenes producers weren't confident in allowing the main story [Bridget taking over Siobhan's life] to unfold naturally.

When Bridget called her sponsor/ex-lover and spilled everything RIGHT AFTER she did replace her sister, I was like... "REALLY?! YOU'RE BEING HUNTED!! You honestly didn't have a struggle before admitting to the truth to somebody because you couldn't take the pressure?"

I don't know. I'm really hoping this series makes it, but the script has to drastically improve.

http://harsens-rob.livejournal.com/256887.html

Azmiri Sultana Mridulmridul777 on September 18th, 2011 06:15 am (UTC)
And cheap-looking. Both Bridget and Siobhan were not likable characters, for different reasons. Siobhan is a cold-hearted bitch, and Bridget is pathetic. Her sweeping into Siobhan's life just seemed so incredible, and her explanation just didn't work, definitely not as presented. I just, yeah, I wasn't impressed. And I couldn't even begin to judge SMG's acting as the twins because in "their" scenes together, all I could concentrate on was how bad the technical aspect was. It looked like cheap, split-screen. It was obvious it was the same actress cut into the same shot.

Normally, I probably wouldn't be so picky, but The Vampire Diaries has had several scenes with Elena and Katherine (both played by Nina Dobrev) and the technical aspect is completely seamless. It truly comes across as if you have two different actresses on screen together. Then there is the acting, where you can completely tell them apart, and they seem like two distinct characters. Based on the little bit of Siobhan we saw, there didn't seem to be that huge a difference between her and Bridget.


MIND-READER...That's what you are!! After I saw the Ringer, I had the exact same complaints. Here I thought I was being too much picky, but whew.

I mean How Juvenile was the special effects during the boat ride? A newbie could spot that it was done in front of a green screen.
And let's say that the real Siobhan drugged her so Bridget was so obliviously asleep that she didn't even notice the way her sister disappeared from the middle of the ocean, leaving a scarf behind, but taking on her sister's role right after the fatal discovery felt like that she has been contemplating "The Switch" act from beforehand.
Didn't she remember her call for help from the boat and how somebody might have picked up on it, and she could be caught in the next few hours, especially when Bridget has an FBI officer on her tail, the way she behaved with the officer after he came to visit Siobhan (Bridget), her whole personality seemed well rehearsed to fit her sister's role....

The "Twin" situation, bugged me very bad. I think it's because of Nina's UBER-PERFECTION in acting out the twin role of 2 polar different characters, that has me fascinated, for which I could spot the little "bugs" in both the roles that SMG played.

The story is good, but the pace was....eh....I don't know.
Especially the ending, like I mentioned in the comment your other post, the ending of Ringer felt more "Whaat" to me, than the "SHock or Gasp" feeling it intended to create, I guess!

BUT The Secret Circle was a lotta fun!! I loved Phoebe Tonkin and after watching the show I love Faye. Adam is cute. Thomas Dekker has done a good job with the role
The adults are much more than they appear which hooks me up with the mystery content.
Gale Harold (character name: Charles Meade) reminded me of Elijah with his characteristic Hair!

Brit Robertson fits the role of Cassie pretty perfectly. Overall, The Circle won me. I'm definitely following this show!
distant_autumn: Damon by ebsolutelydistant_autumn on September 18th, 2011 10:17 am (UTC)
Still haven't watched either yet, but am spoiling myself to see what you thought! :D It seems like the general reaction to Ringer is very mixed, so it definitely wasn't just you feeling underwhelmed. I'm still going to give it a try, because I like the premise and a lot of the actors, but the collective 'meh' has definitely got me adjusting my expectations accordingly.

OTOH, I'm very glad you think TSC shows promise, because it's one of the shows I've been looking forward to the most, and knowing how similar our TV reactions often are, I suspect that means I'm going to enjoy it too! :D
harper47harper47 on September 18th, 2011 11:03 am (UTC)
I had the exact same reaction. I finally watched Secret Circle yesterday and I really liked it where watching Ringer was just painful. I'm told it improves which I hope is true because of Jason.
A lurking goblin marionette: ad: sighdanceinacircle on September 18th, 2011 01:09 pm (UTC)
I felt the same way - I definitely liked Secret Circle and feel like it could be interesting (though the entire time Diana was on the screen I couldn't stop staring at her veneers), and it has Mrs. Bennett! <3

Ringer I didn't like - Brian and I made fun of it the whole way through, and I realized that SMG was basically whispering the whole way through or something - there's just something about the way she talks that bugs me a super ton. I realized I've always felt that way about her - it's a relief to finally know why I don't get a super boner over her like everyone else does.
vamplover85vamplover85 on September 18th, 2011 03:25 pm (UTC)
I thought the scenery was gorgeous in the secret circle and they possibly filmed it in Maine. It looked like it, or the east coast somewhere cause that how it is out there it's so gorgeous and I really like Cassie, and I never read the books so I have no clue on how it is lol so that's good, but I do want to read them. :P and ah Ringer, eh...your right they didn't have the best personality with the two of them, I mean Nina killed it when it came to playing two separate characters, I hope Sarah will do it justice in the next few episodes, and Jason is gonna be in it? Sweet! and for the technical aspects it because it was suppose to go to CBS instead of CW so they didn't change anything for the pilot and just slapped it on the CW.
Thoughts= stars I can't fathom into constellationsthesicko1012 on September 19th, 2011 09:01 pm (UTC)
I kind of enjoyed Ringer. It sparked an interest. I'm not saying it was super great, but it won't be hard for me to keep watching for SMG's sake. Like most shows I usually give them the chance because someone I know is in them (Vampire Diaries for Nina, Secret Circle for Gale Harold), and honestly I don't think I would have started watching if it wasn't for Sarah.

I loved Secret Circle. I can already tell that it is going to become something I get really addicted to. My goodness, Thursday nights are going to be a major emotional roller coaster.