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25 August 2006 @ 08:49 pm
VM Unpopular Opinions  
There was a great thread on a soap board I was on once and it popped into my head recently, so I thought I'd do it for Veronica Mars. I'm fairly certain most (if not) all of these are unpopular, but who knows? And it would be interesting to read unpopular opinions from others ...

Here be mine:

  • Lamb does absolutely nothing for me. At all.

  • I really love Tessa Thompson and think that past her first episode she did a fabulous job with what she was given (esp. ANMMHE).

  • I think that Duncan Kane had the most complex characterization in S1, but that complexity was greatly dimmed by the actor.

  • I really wish that Jason Dohring HAD been cast as Duncan (see why for #3).

  • I find the Keith/Veronica relationship a little disturbing. I've been watching season one scenes and it's like both EC and KB play it sometimes like Keith and Veronica are true soulmates and madly in love as opposed to a very close father/daughter. I don't know sometimes, it's just a little bit squicky for me.

  • I really prefer Wallace solely as a sidekick to Veronica (or even Logan like in IAG). His stories (chick from TWoC, S1, his dad, Jackie, Jane, Jackie in S2) pretty much bored me senseless and I wasn't horribly impressed with PDIII's acting outside of that sidekick role.

  • I get squicked out by any sexual innuendo of any kind between Veronica and Dick because of what happened in ATttD.

  • I really don't think that Logan and Veronica need to break-up/have other love interests to remain interesting. They've got layers, depth, issues, excellent actors playing them and beyond fabulous chemistry.

  • I'm pretty 'eh' about Mac; I would lose Mac and get Meg in her place in a heartbeat. Also, I found Mac/Beaver mildly cute, but mostly boring.

  • I really, really hate Logan's puka shell necklace.
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    sowellsowell on August 26th, 2006 12:14 pm (UTC)
    Ooh, I like unpopular opinions. In response to yours:

    Tessa Thompson - YES. I really like Jackie, and while her first episode was pretty shaky, I think she's been very interesting since then.

    As far as JD as Duncan goes - I agree that Duncan could have been a really great character if a more charismatic/talented actor was in that role. I think RT was trying to set up a whole soulmate/star-crossed lover thing btwn him and Veronica, and it would have worked if a) JD and KB didn't have such fantastic chemistry, and b) Teddy Dunn wasn't so meh. On the other hand, I've gotten so very attached to JD's portrayal of Logan, that I'm not sure I would go so far as to say I wish he'd been in another role. Then we wouldn't have Logan in his current incarnation, and that would be a TRAGEDY.

    Also, I love Keith and Veronica, but especially in S1 there are some squicky moments, and I also think Wallace is most interesting as a sidekick. The more they tried to give him his own storylines, the less I liked him.

    And to add a couple unpopular opinions of my own:

    I love Hannah. I think the actress did a nice job, and while there's no way in hell I want Logan to end up with her, I wouldn't be opposed to having her back to create a little tension in S3. Seriously, Veronica needs someone to compete with for Logan's attentions. Shake a little smugness out of her.

    Beaver creeped me out from day one. He has moments of cuteness with Mac, but in my mind the cuteness is pretty much all due to Tina Majorino's acting, not Kyle Gallner's.

    Meg bores me to death.

    Yay, I like this post.
    Arabian: What's not to Love? (Logan)arabian on August 26th, 2006 02:36 pm (UTC)
    I understand that Logan is beloved, but I think he's beloved because of Jason. Duncan (in S1) was much more complex and with JD and KB's chemistry, plus JD's superior acting, I truly believe that VD's whole true love thing would have played out as this beautiful love story ... and KB wouldn't be bitching about the love interest everyone wants her with.

    Of course, I also believe that originally LOGAN was supposed to have been the one who raped Veronica, but once the L/V thing happened, that had to be changed, so if Jason HAD played Duncan, the whole sister-fucker thing never would have happened.

    Hannah? Hmm, must vehemently disagree, LOL!

    Beaver/Mac -- I'm actually the opposite. The cuteness I attributed to Kyle Gallner (whom I loved from episode one he appeared in).

    Oh, I adore MEG!!!! She was my fave character after Logan and Veronica. Love, love, LOVE Alona Tal in everything I've seen her do. I was rewatching B&V and Alona Tal and Kristen Bell did the friends thing so well. I thought they had a wonderful, believable chemistry as friends ... something I still have not seen between KB/TM, Veronica/Mac. (Hmm, when I get home, I so have to make a Meg/AT icon.)

    Hee! Thanks for playing.
    sowell: DB by nypdolphin3379sowell on August 26th, 2006 09:51 pm (UTC)
    Wow, you think Logan was originally the one who supposedly raped her? I'm not sure I agree, but that's interesting. I don't think I've heard it before.

    And yes, I generally encounter RAGE when I mention how much I like Hannah. :)
    Arabian: Pilotarabian on August 26th, 2006 11:41 pm (UTC)
    It's just my personal belief. I could write a whole essay about it, which I may at some point.

    BTW, I added a bunch of stuff in the "Sowell" forum, renamed it and made a banner as best I could hear at my sis's.
    Femme Fetale: [vm]Logan and Dick BFF.slayervixen on August 26th, 2006 02:56 pm (UTC)
    I'm answering now hun :)

    I agree to a degree about V/Keith its weird how sometimes when they look at each other you expect a big ass make out session *Eww*

    Totally agree about L/V cos we're on the same page everytime with that issue :)

    Hmm but if JDoh was cast as Donut who would have played Logan?? No one would ever have played him as well as Jason. He's perfection in the role.

    I don't like the puka necklace either. Never did. Never will.
    Arabianarabian on August 26th, 2006 03:20 pm (UTC)
    Aww, my heart is filled with joy now, LOL!

    Hmm but if JDoh was cast as Donut who would have played Logan?? No one would ever have played him as well as Jason. He's perfection in the role.

    Yes he is, but if he had played Duncan, we wouldn't care about Logan ... we'd be all about the DUNCAN! and his FAAAAAAAACCEE!!!!!!
    Femme Fetale: [act]JD = Hot Crazy Sauce. Tis True.slayervixen on August 26th, 2006 03:35 pm (UTC)
    LMFAO!! FACEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! That's weird thinking about that...we might have liked Duncan but we don't all hail JD and his gorgeousness and amazing skills as an actor!! Crazy Sauce.
    crowandfog: VM: Veronica OMGcrowandfog on May 9th, 2011 08:24 am (UTC)
    Hee hee! I've been going through your VM posts from the oldest to the most recent. Some of KB's comments are pretty shocking to me. I had NO IDEA she was carrying on like that! Anyway, I want to play so...

    Your opinions that I agree with:

    I was okay with Jackie whenever her storyline wasn't all about Wallace.

    ITA that the relationship between Keith and Veronica is super squicky at times. Some of their banter gets a little inappropriate IMO.

    I also think that Wallace is best as a sidekick. His storylines are otherwise incurably boring since for some reason he's never really allowed to interact with any of the rest of the main cast. It's bizarre. IAG made me very happy in that regard.

    Logan's puka shell necklace makes me want to puke-a. (But I went to a private high school, and, let me tell ya, THAT IS WHAT ALL THE JERKS WORE. It's like a way for them to identify one another.)

    I agree about L/V not needing to break up to be interesting. They had way to many historical issues that they would have had to work through to need the addition of new love interests.

    My own unpopular opinions:

    I don't think that Dick ever expected (or wanted) Beaver to rape Veronica. I think it was just one more way for him to humiliate his little brother by "proving" that he wasn't even "man" enough to have sex with an unconscious girl.

    I think the season two finale would have worked better if Keith had died in the explosion. His fake death had no shock value for me whatsoever because I didn't believe for even one second that they would actually kill him. If he had, in fact, been dead, I would have been like WHOA! now THAT'S storytelling (even though it would have taken me until the end of the episode to believe it). Plus, it would have done some really interesting things to the L/V relationship. Alternatively, they could have waited until the S3 premiere to show that Keith was still alive.

    On the fence:

    I think that Duncan had some really interesting things going on in S1 for sure and needed a more talented actor. But I don't think that having JD play Duncan would have really solved the D/V/L issues. I probably would have been more supportive of D/V, but IMO, once Lily died, Veronica she changed too much to be healthy with Duncan. Duncan was the boyfriend she wanted but not the one she needed. I think I would have eventually wanted her to be with someone else. (But I did read somewhere that when JD read for Logan with KB, he played the role as if he was, in fact, her rapist!)