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02 July 2011 @ 09:20 pm
'Vampire Diaries' Fanfic pet peeve  
that drives me batty. It literally will make me stop reading a fic no matter how good it pretty much is overall. When writers choose to have Damon (or really anyone, but especially Damon) call Elena "'Lena" as a nickname of sorts. It drives me bonkers because not only does no one call her 'Lena on the show, and not only has Damon never called her that, he (more than anyone else) ENUNCIATES her full name, all three syllables, with emphasis on the first quite frequently enough that it's kinda his thing with her name. So, yeah, I can't read it. I just can't. It's such a small thing, but that like spelling Stefan's name Stephan, it just ruins it for me.

And, I don't know why, but so many fanfics have Damon calling her this. I don't get it, maybe they think it makes Damon seem soft and cuddly and more in love with her because he shortens her name as something that is special just for them. Okay, fine, but he DOESN'T DO IT IN THE SOURCE MATERIAL EVER so I don't see it as soft and cuddly and in-love, I see it as out of character.

Yeah, clearly drives me bonkers, huh?

ETA: You never can tell which random topics will generate conversation, can ya?
 
 
 
waltzmatildah: breaking bad: walt gun barrellwaltzmatildah on July 3rd, 2011 01:27 am (UTC)
YES! THIS! OMG, ME TOO!!!! Thank you for saying something so I have somewhere to vent! Haha!

I mean, WHERE HAS THIS COME FROM?! Whhheeerreeeeee??!! And WHY is it so rife in fanfic?!
Arabian: Penny02 - Face Palmarabian on July 3rd, 2011 01:45 am (UTC)
I mean, WHERE HAS THIS COME FROM?! Whhheeerreeeeee??!! And WHY is it so rife in fanfic?!

THIS! Sums up my entire post. THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

ETA: Yeah, I just feel terrible now, and wish I hadn't mentioned any fic in particular. :(

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Sar: damon salvatorepaceisthetrick on July 3rd, 2011 01:35 am (UTC)
"he (more than anyone else) ENUNCIATES her full name, all three syllables, with emphasis on the first quite frequently enough"

THIS SO MUCH!
Arabian: Damon04arabian on July 3rd, 2011 01:47 am (UTC)
I know, right.

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sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: TVD: Ian shhhbadboy_fangirl on July 3rd, 2011 01:39 am (UTC)
LOL. As someone who has done that (and will still do it as I feel it necessary) I'll explain myself: when I've had him do it, it's been because I'm purposely having him say her name very quickly for whatever reason so that that's how it SOUNDS coming out whether he meant it to or not.

But it's not like he calls her that all the time, or in PLACE of her name. It's usually an action-dictated lack-of enunciation situation. Because there have been times in canon where *I* didn't *hear* him say every syllable.

But I've been known to not read fic for even lesser reasons, so I don't judge you. :D
Arabian: Ian Somerhalder03arabian on July 3rd, 2011 01:49 am (UTC)
Ah, see I've never heard him say it. I've even listened because of the proliferation of it in fanfic, and even in a hurry or moments of urgency, he says the full name. But thank you for explaining your reason for doing so. I just, yeah, don't see it. If you can give me examples on the show, I will gladly concede it and thus be able to get over this non-fanfic-reading hump. :)

But I've been known to not read fic for even lesser reasons, so I don't judge you. :D

Okay, NOW you have to share. I am curious. (Also, feel free to call tomorrow!)
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jessalrynnjessalrynn on July 3rd, 2011 02:42 am (UTC)
I think it's a trait that goes under the header of "Stupid fanfic thingamajig". I first saw it in the strange and frustrating tendency to call Hermione "Mione", which makes about as much sense as this thing you're talking about.

I think it's the age of the author (mental or actual), combined with the personalizing effect. If it's young enough to still be collecting cutesy nicknames from its friends, or to idolize people who do (have friends and/or collect nicknames), it will pull something like this. Plus, the younger authors tend to think that this is a way of making the person their own and/or close to them, or that the giving and receiving of stupid nicknames (as opposed to real terms of endearment) is an actual indicator of real intimacy.

All I can say... this, I do not think we can stop, either. *sigh*
Arabian: TARDISarabian on July 3rd, 2011 02:54 am (UTC)
Ugh, "Mione." Ugh, ugh, ugh! I think if I ever read that in an HP fic, I stopped reading ASAP! Oh, silly "Stupid fanfic thingamajig," I so don't like you. :(
Carlydrkprncss17 on July 3rd, 2011 02:59 am (UTC)
My Crazy Pet Peeves That Only My Friends Could Get Away With...
1) Words are misspelled in the title or summary, or within the first paragraph of the story.

2) Improper use of punctuation/quotation marks in sentences (it takes me out of the story). Too many ellipses in a paragraph also bothers me for some reason.

3) In smut, too many uses of "and then". Like..."and then he did this, then this, and she did this..." It's probably more pride for me though, since I have high standards for smut fics ;)

4) Any time someone has an author's note at the beginning of their fic that is plagued with spelling errors. Kind of an immediate tip-off that I'm going to go crazy trying to read it.

5) "Their", "They're" and "There". Possibly one of the most irritating errors to come across. Yes, we all make mistakes, but unless it's only once in a chapter, and I can clearly see that you DO in fact know the difference, you're NOT forgiven.

6) Completely out of character behavior. I pride myself in my ability to get into the heads of pretty much every character I write (NOW. I'm not counting anything before 2005, as I was young and stupid). I'm also annoyed by the OOC "disclaimers".

7) Fics written completely in bold lettering or italics; because loathe as I am to admit, my eyes are not what they used to be and if it hurts my eyes to read it...then I probably won't.


Arabian: Damon & Elena07arabian on July 3rd, 2011 03:05 am (UTC)
Re: My Crazy Pet Peeves That Only My Friends Could Get Away With...
First off: I love the subject title of your comment. :)

Second off: I was going to quote and respond to the ones that apply, but found myself saying "Yes" aloud (allowed in place of that is another spelling no-no!) to each one so, uhm, yeah, just YES to all of the above!

BTW: I love how your icon takes a moment that wasn't all that pro-Damon/Elena at all (LOL!) and with judicious stop/start times of the moment makes it incredibly sexy and shippy, hee!
The Word Mapthewordmap on July 3rd, 2011 04:43 am (UTC)
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND!
And UGH STEPHAN drives me nuts (the spelling, not the person--although i'm not a huge Stefan fan).
Arabian: Stefan03arabian on July 3rd, 2011 12:31 pm (UTC)
I know. It's SteFan, not StePHan. And there is no excuse because we've seen his name written on the show. Sure not often, but we HAVE seen it.
youcallitwinteryoucallitwinter on July 3rd, 2011 08:59 am (UTC)
I completely get that, that stuff is SO FREAKIN' ANNOYING. I can understand if it's something like drunk!Damon and he's calling her 'lena to emphasize the drunkenness but as a term of endearment? Oh, god, no. And Stefan as Stephan is unbelievably irritating. Like, how can you be writing fics about them if you don't even know their names? (This used to annoy me in the Harry Potter fandom where people just couldn't stop writing 'Hermoine', wtf even?) And then relationship OOC when it comes to Damon/Elena just turns me off. When they turn into this cutsey couple, who just make out everywhere and have adorable conversations. IF YOU WANTED STEFAN/ELENA, WHY NOT JUST GO FOR STEFAN/ELENA? I love D/E because I know that even if they ever "got together", they'd be conflicted and fight a lot and disagree and yet be madly in love. The oddest thing is that I just randomly looked up Damon/OC fic and most people writing those seem to actually have a good handle on Damon-characterization, which is so weird because most of the D/E fic that I've seen is completely OOC. Also avoiding the fact that Elena IS in love with Stefan (whatever she might feel for Damon) also turns me off fic.
Arabian: Elena07arabian on July 3rd, 2011 12:34 pm (UTC)
Right, drunk Damon would work, but that's it. Yeah, I can deal with teasing, jokey D/E, but with a bit of bite (haha), because they do have that aspect of their relationship. But there is more to them than that.

Also avoiding the fact that Elena IS in love with Stefan (whatever she might feel for Damon) also turns me off fic.

Or any point in season two (prior to the finale, because obviously buried, denied feelings popped up there) when she's loved Damon for a long time, and she's been aware of it. It's like, deal with canon, folks, she does love Stefan.
Azmiri Sultana Mridulmridul777 on July 3rd, 2011 09:12 am (UTC)
and what stops me from reading a fic is when the writer makes Damon call Elena "Kitten". I don't know why, but when that happens, either I skip the whole paragraph or ditch the story overall. Also when the nickname "Princess" is used when Damon is supposed to address Elena.
I think the way he says ELENA, kinda like the way he said it in 2x01 "The Return", that's the best nickname of all times.
Arabian: Damon & Elena06arabian on July 3rd, 2011 12:36 pm (UTC)
and what stops me from reading a fic is when the writer makes Damon call Elena "Kitten".

WHERE DID THAT COME FROM!?!??!?!? I've seen it in a few fics too. He's NEVER called her that. Nothing even hinting at it. Just no!

Princess I could deal with if done snarkily (but that doesn't really fit Elena either), but I could see Damon using it that way, but as an actual term of endearment/nickname? No.

I think the way he says ELENA, kinda like the way he said it in 2x01 "The Return", that's the best nickname of all times.

Yup, and he does it often enough that it's sorta his thing, thus the start of my whole rant -- he does not call her 'Lena. Period.
Autopsy Gremlinabby_i on July 3rd, 2011 01:37 pm (UTC)
This drives me bonkers in Potter fic, where Harry or someone shortens Hermione's name to Herm or something I can't every recall him calling her. It's so off-putting, it throws you right out of the story.
Arabian: Booksarabian on July 3rd, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC)
Oh, Lordy, whenever someone would have her called "Herm" in fic, I'd just roll my eyes. As if Hermione would EVER allow that. Pfft!

It's so off-putting, it throws you right out of the story.

Thank you. That's it right there; that is my problem. It throws me out of the story.
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Arabian: Damon02arabian on July 3rd, 2011 05:01 pm (UTC)
No, you have not if you haven't read it. Don't feel too bad. I need to come up with a rec list someday because sadly there is just not very much good fic, that the good ones should be celebrated and recommended. :)

the misspelling of Stefan's name(Stephan) - it completely throws me off.

Drives me batty. And I was just reading a story that spelt Caroline's name as "Carolyn." And it sucked because the story was REALLY good, but she kept spelling Caroline's name like that, and Ric as "Rick." It's like, dude, his name is Alaric, the Ric is a derivative of that, thus no K. :)
Laurel: Hipster Bellecorusca on July 3rd, 2011 03:30 pm (UTC)
I still haven't seen any Vampire Diaries, but this whole thing hearkens back to the Rose/Doctor fanfic thing where she would bizarrely start calling him 'Theta'. GRARGLH NO.
Arabian: Dr Who (9) - WTFarabian on July 3rd, 2011 05:03 pm (UTC)
You should so watch it. The first couple of eps are pretty much what you expect a CW-Vampire teen drama to be (but in retrospect are a LOT better), then it starts to get good, then great, then amazing and by episode 13, it's pretty much a free-ride of AWESOME!!!! Ahem.

I stopped reading some fics when that "Theta" would come out. I mean, really?
Beck: TVD - Caroline Rlybeck_liz on July 3rd, 2011 04:43 pm (UTC)
Man, that kind of name shortening always annoys me. I mean, it's one thing if, for example, a Daniel is canonically a Danny, but they have never once used 'Lena for Elena in the show. Why change it? Is three syllables too hard? (From someone who has a three-syllable name who gets annoyed by people who nickname me without asking.)
Arabian: Caroline01arabian on July 3rd, 2011 05:04 pm (UTC)
Exactly. And as someone who has to deal with it, it must be even more annoying for you.

(Aww, Caroline is so pretty!)
Jamiemadjm on July 3rd, 2011 06:14 pm (UTC)
LOL, I'm late to the party, but I just have to come hear and say: WORD. So, so much.

Especially the Stephan thing ticks me off. How hard is it to spell a main character's name right?? Back when I was in the X-men fandom it used to drive me nuts when someone would write "Rouge" instead of "Rogue." There is kind of a difference, peeps. Geez.
Arabian: Damon & Elena03arabian on July 3rd, 2011 06:18 pm (UTC)
Rouge? Seriously? Lordy, give me a break.

Yeah, and we've literally seen Stefan's name spelt out on screen. Come on.

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distant_autumn: Elena - What? by imaginary_livesdistant_autumn on July 4th, 2011 03:15 pm (UTC)
Fandom sure does love abbreviations and nicknames, even (especially?) when none exist in canon, doesn't it? Not just TVD, either; it seems to be a Thing in every fandom ever. IDGI. It doesn't necessarily make me back-button (depends on the rest of the fic) but it is a bit of a WTF moment. In the case of TVD fandom, it also really bothers me when Caroline gets called Caro. I know they kinda shorten it so it sounds like 'Care' on the show, but Caro? No.

ETA: You never can tell which random topics will generate conversation, can ya?

Ha, I saw the comment count and was like "...Wow, did this lead to a fight in the comments or something?" But no, we all just feel very strongly about the naming issue, heh. :D
Arabian: Elena03arabian on July 4th, 2011 03:18 pm (UTC)
Ha, I saw the comment count and was like "...Wow, did this lead to a fight in the comments or something?" But no, we all just feel very strongly about the naming issue, heh. :D

I know, right? With every response, I'm just like DAYUM!

Re: Names. Ugh, I rad Caro in one fic and rolled my eyes SO HARD. But really it's the 'Lena that gets me.
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