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28 December 2010 @ 09:57 am
30 Day Vampire Diaries-Meme, Day 08  
Continuing on with the 30-Day Vampire Diaries meme ...

Day 08 - Favorite Stefan Scene

"Miss Mystic Falls" (Season 01, Episode 19) -- "I don't hurt people."

I had originally included all of the Stefan/Amber scenes, including the "I'm fricking hungry!" bit as well as the dark when he tells her to run, and then changes his mind because I love every single moment of this whole batch of scenes. However, the meme does say "scene," singular, not "scenes," plural, so I went with this one.


You had Stefan's frustration, how he defines himself in many ways by his relation (or rather contrast) to his brother ("I don't hurt people. I'm the good brother.") which goes back to his pre-vampire days, you just know. And then there is the precise, almost sensual way he talks about wanting to kill Amber and feed on her, how he touches her neck, explains how to do it properly. It gives insight into vampires in general and how hard it is to constantly struggle with that desire to kill. Caroline mentioned that to Elena at one point (about how she always wants to kill.) It's not just about needing the blood, it's that when one becomes a vampire, one becomes a killer ... and wants to kill. The fact that Damon who has -- based on what we know -- not fought that instinct most of his vampire life and yet has begun to do so now, drinking from blood bags and not killing humans does say a lot about how he is trying to be the better "person."

And that's something that I love about this scene (similar to the Damon scene I chose in that it gave some insight into Stefan as well as Damon), and this show in general, it's so very layered. We see not only what is going on with the character on screen, but more often than not, there are parallels, recalls, moments/lines that will have impact down the road for other characters. So awesome. Ahem, but let's get back to Stefan specifically -- since this is his meme question, LOL! There was much joking and laughing at the Paley Fest panel when Paul Wesley revealed that he had read for Damon initially, but watching this scene -- especially the one part I described above -- it's clear that had Ian Somerhalder not come along, Wesley would have made quite, quite the passable Damon. He was chilling, yet sexy, at the same time.

What can I say? To very loosely paraphrase Stefan: I fricking love this scene!

Past days:

Day 01 - Your favorite character?
Day 02 - Your least favorite character?
Day 03 - Your favorite guest star?
Day 04 - Your least favorite guest star?
Day 05 - Your favorite episode?
Day 06 - Your least favorite episode?
Day 07 - Your favorite Damon scene?
 
 
 
crowandfogcrowandfog on December 28th, 2010 07:59 pm (UTC)
However, the meme does say "scene," singular, not "scenes," plural, so I went with this one.

Yeah... I kind of ignored that little detail when I made my choice for Damon scene.... Oops. ;)

This was a very good Stefan scene and I liked it a lot, too. I also think it's interesting that Stefan and Damon are constantly reminding themselves and each other of their roles as "good brother" and "bad brother". The show is always drawing attention to Damon's inferiority complex, but it's clear to me that Stefan has a superiority complex to match (think about Stefan's "as a human, I cared too much; as a vampire, I care way too much" speech to Caroline).

I know that Stefan really does want Damon to be good, but it looks like Stefan gets more insecure and broody whenever Damon takes one step forward and suddenly becomes a bit more confident whenever Damon takes two steps back. I mean, Stefan seemed to be downright chipper in "Brave New World" if you ask me.
Arabian: Damon&Stefan03arabian on December 28th, 2010 08:51 pm (UTC)
Oh, I absolutely agree. Whereas Stefan is always commenting to some degree about how he is the good one (and Damon does so as well), he also is always commenting on the bad of Damon (as does Damon). In the beginning of the Damon scene I chose, it began with him saying that Stefan was back to himself and so Damon could be the older, bad-ass brother again. It always seem to come back to the way their father clearly saw them, and that defines them in many ways to this day.

I know that Stefan really does want Damon to be good, but it looks like Stefan gets more insecure and broody whenever Damon takes one step forward and suddenly becomes a bit more confident whenever Damon takes two steps back. I mean, Stefan seemed to be downright chipper in "Brave New World" if you ask me.

Exactly. Because Stefan clearly ADORED Damon in their human days, so I don't think it's so much a superiority complex in that Stefan truly believes that Damon is so frickin' awesome! But the one thing that Stefan (in his mind) has always had over Damon is that he's the "good brother." If Damon starts being good too, that makes Stefan second-best in every category. And specifically applying that to Elena, the thing that he believes Elena loves most about him is his goodness (because that's the thing he loves most about Elena -- that contrast to the evil of Katherine in the same form), and the thing she dislikes most about Damon is his bad ways. So if Damon stops being the bad guy, then the one thing that Elena doesn't like about him goes away and he now owns the one quality that Elena loves best about him, well, then he'll lose her to Damon.

Damn, I love the psychology of this show! :D
crowandfogcrowandfog on December 28th, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC)
It always seem to come back to the way their father clearly saw them, and that defines them in many ways to this day.

Oh no! Please don't get me ranting about Guiseppe Salvatore. I may never stop!

Damn, I love the psychology of this show! :D

Me,too. Me, too.

Wow. The idea that Damon believes Stefan has everything while Stefan believes he has only one thing is fascinating. It says a lot about what they value the most. To Damon, there is nothing more valuable than love (especially--if not solely--romantic love) and trust, so not having it means having nothing. But Stefan seems to find value in love but also in other things like goodness, skill, family, friendship, sentimental objects, etc.
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on December 28th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
Wow. The idea that Damon believes Stefan has everything while Stefan believes he has only one thing is fascinating.

Yup. I think it's so true though. The only person who seems to truly think that Damon is all that and a bag of chips is Stefan (why else would he ALWAYS be so worried that something is going to happen between Damon and Elena?). And Damon does not see that; he's just so used to seeing himself through his father's eyes -- yes, rant away about Guiseppe! -- as a total loser. And, other than Stefan, every person that he's loved he believes sees him that way too. He knows that Katherine did/does now. And that's rather why he started to fall for Elena, because she was the first person he cared about who didn't see him as a loser ... yet, he fucked that up to an alarming degree. (Yeah, the whole brother-neck-snapping was pretty bad.) Not that she sees him as a loser, but he knows that she's always fighting seeing him as anything other than a jerk now because of, yeah, the whole brother-neck-snapping.

Seriously, I so adore this show!!! And now I feel bad though because even a purely, supposed-to-be-all-about-Stefan post has now become all about the psychology of Damon. *sigh*

Edited at 2010-12-28 10:24 pm (UTC)
crowandfogcrowandfog on December 28th, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC)
Seriously, I so adore this show!!! And now I feel bad though because even a purely, supposed-to-be-all-about-Stefan post has now become all about the psychology of Damon. *sigh*

Same here to both statements, but it's really not our fault that the writers made Damon an infinitely more complicated and interesting character. He just has easily three times the layers of every other character on the show.
Arabian: Damon & Elena05arabian on December 28th, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Yes, he does. And that goes back to why I adored The Return so much. It showcased every single one of those layers and then some. *sigh*
Myramidnightblack07 on December 28th, 2010 10:34 pm (UTC)
awesome, awesome choice!! I love your reasoning behind this, it actually gave me a whole new perspective on this scene, and on Stefan as a character overall, particularly the fact that how he see/defines himself has alot to do with his relation to Damon (and vice-versa)...
Arabian: Damon&Stefan03arabian on December 28th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
Yup, absolutely.

If you're interested, crowandfog and I have been having a very interesting conversation off of my original comments above your comment in this post. You might want to take a look at it.

Edited at 2010-12-28 10:41 pm (UTC)
Heather-Annlinsell_farm on December 29th, 2010 12:13 am (UTC)
Great choice, Arabian!! I love the psychology of this show, as well.
Stefan does see himself as only having his "goodness" as an asset, whereas Damon sees Stefan as having it all. It makes sense to me that Stefan gets insecure when Damon takes a step towards being a better "person".

This scene does an excellent job of illustrating the many facets of being a vampire. I agree that, after watching this, Paul could have been a passable Damon (if IS wasn't born). Paul was sensual and scary together when describing the carotid artery and controlling the blood flow ... little bit of a metaphor there ;)


Arabian: Stefan01arabian on December 29th, 2010 12:16 am (UTC)
Yup, such a fascinating scene. I love it so.