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02 December 2010 @ 10:56 pm
2.10 - 'The Sacrifice' (The Vampire Diaries)  
Halleluja! The Vampire Diaries is back and all is right in my world. Woohoo!!

OMG!I LOVE MY SHOW SO MUCH! Really, you all know I'm gonna write a long-ass rambling post about tonight's episode, but it pretty much boils down to ... OMG!I LOVE MY SHOW SO MUCH!

I think I'm gonna bullet-point this one in no particular order. I'm tired and have got to go to bed ASAP, so ... (Warning: I ramble all over the place! Oy!)

- Well, I've found my favorite Damon line of the season thus far: "I will break your arm." I laughed so hard at that. The delivery was AMAZING! And it was so awesome that it made up for the over-the-top acting that we got from Ian in spades tonight. However, I'm gonna cut the guy some slack. He has been in a bit too showy mode the last few episodes, however, I also know that he had walking pneumonia for nigh a month and he was probably pushing through to give Damon that spark and bite as much as possible, and simply overcompensated due to his pathetically sick state. I've had walking pneumonia; it's a bitch. So yeah, totally cutting the guy slack. Besides, we got "I will break your arm." Only with Damon/Elena, could you sorta/kinda take that line as semi-shippy, LOL!

- Did Damon manhandle Elena a bit much tonight? Yeah, he did, but I can forgive it because (a) I'm an unbashed Damon-stan who will find an excuse for any dastardly thing he does, (b) he was really trying to impress upon the importance of Elena NOT continuing to do what she was doing, and strong words weren't working, and (c) he was scared that she was going to get herself killed, and again, really wanted to impress upon her that she needed to stop!

- Ah, we got so many ultra-OMG! Damon/Elena moments. Wow, this was the most DE stuff we've gotten since "The Return," and I so am not complaining. Should I point out that Caroline Dries (she who co-wrote "Miss Mystic Falls") wrote this episode? Should I also point that OMG!I LOVE HER!? I mean, we got not one, not two, but THREE moments that played with the potential of turning into a kiss. Damon playing all hero to save her. Elena pretty much saying three separate times that she cares about Damon! SQUEE! And Damon reacting for just a millisecond every single time. DOUBLE SQUEE! Elena and Damon up in each other's faces. Stefan and Katherine listening to Damon and Elena obviously up in each other's faces while fighting ... which led to Katherine telling Stefan he'd made such a huge mistake by basically saying, 'yo, Damon, go spend all the time in the world with Elena and keep her from me.'

You know, on one hand, I love it because, hello!? Damon and Elena spending time together with no Stefan in the way. On the other hand, it's like, ugh! So Stefan has to be sorta out of the picture for Elena to even give Damon a thought? But then on the other other hand, really, as the show and characters have been written, yes, Stefan DOES have to sorta be out of the picture for Elena to even give Damon a thought. So once again, brilliant move on their part. Get Stefan out of the picture without sacrificing the character or Paul Wesley's presence on the show.

- One thing, though, what was up with the major close-ups of Damon and Elena's face in that first (looking at lips, yeah, Elena, I saw you do it too!) fight between them? I mean, MAJOR close-ups! I dunno, I don't have an HD TV so maybe it didn't look as off on HD or widescreen, because it looked to me like the zoom button had been hit and cut off a portion of their faces. It was a tad off.

- I've never multi-shipped on a show before. EVER! But I do on The Vampire Diaries. Obviously, my heart belongs 100% with Damon and Elena (okay, I enjoy the Damon/Katherine stuff, but I don't ship them, I just will greedily lap up every second of screentime that Ian Somerhalder and Nina Dobrev share no matter what character is being played), but I totally ship Stefan and Katherine ... and Stefan and Caroline ... and Caroline and Matt ... and Caroline and Tyler ... and Tyler and Jeremy ... and Jeremy and Bonnie ... and I kinda thought that Bonnie and Luka were cute this go-around too. I mean, DAYUM!, this show.

But let's back up a bit: Oh, yeah, Stefan and Katherine!! GAWD! I can't wait for next week. I've always said that Nina Dobrev and Paul Wesley have chemistry, it just can't compare to the Nina/Ian chemistry ... especially without the contrast in character types (like Damon and Elena). But with Katherine and Stefan, there is that contrast, plus Stefan doesn't treat Katherine like a fragile doll (as he does Elena), so there's more passion there, and it is ever hot!? I really can't wait for next week! Ah, but how the heck do they get there? I can't wait to see. I can only assume (which, with this show, could be a thousand miles off-base) that Katherine really digs into his insecurities about Damon and Elena. And, we think back to the last episode where we got that oh-so lovely reminder of them when Stefan's first thought about where Elena was that Stefan couldn't know about but where she was safe was that she was with Damon. Nice, very nice. (Damn, have I mentioned how much I frickin' love this show!)

- Heh, when Bonnie blocked Jeremy's attempt at a kiss, I thought, yeah, Jeremy, if you had the power and an annoying, kid brother propped up in the middle of your humiliating rejection, you'd snap his neck too, wouldn't you? Uh huh. Okay, that was my second thought. My first, was 'poor Jeremy!' Like, I'd thought 'poor Matt' when Tyler walked up. And I'm mad at Matt! He treated Caroline crappily in the second episode, but, but, but, he's like a big, golden retriever puppy and he and Caroline are so pretty together ... but, but, but ...

Tyler!! Tyler broke my heart tonight. When he kept fast-forwarding and saying the time frame before stopping and walking away with tears in his eyes telling Caroline that he can't do that, I just felt so much for him. Michael Trevino did a fantastic job all-around, but that one scene just slayed me. Excellent job, and while I was so not won over before this episode, yuppers, as I mentioned above, I was totally squeeing over Tyler and Caroline in this episode, and then Matt showed up and again, WAH! So many pretty people in pretty permutations of pretty to choose from!!!

- ELIJAH FUCKING ROCKS! End of story. Daniel Gillies is fantastic, and I hope he is played as sorta, maybe a good(ish) guy because I want to see him stick around plenty long time. Love, love, love him.

Damon: I killed you. You were dead.
Elijah: For centuries now.
BWAH! And then he did a dual-heart-rippage. I gotta say, I half-expected Damon to say either "Hey! That's my trip." Or "Yo, dude. Cool, I give you mad props." (Okay, Damon would never say either, but it was fun to imagine.)

- Man, oh, man, when Stefan zoomed in to pull Jeremy out, I was all "OH, NO, STEFAN!" And then remembered Nina Dobrev's quote about some sexy/shocking scenes in the next episode with a character of hers and how I had originally thought it would be Stefan and Katherine, but then remembered with her in the tomb, he wouldn't go in because he'd be trapped so, must be some other permutation, and then this. Ah hah! Good one, show! :) Have I mentioned that I can't wait until next week?!?!? Big thumbs up!

- Jeremy's plan *was* stupid, but it gave us three great moments, including my two favorite non-Damon/Elena moments. The first was Jeremy throwing the moonstone out of the tomb at the last moment (go, Jeremy!), second was Katherine saying "I'll be playing with my new toy" as she dragged Jeremy off, and third was Katherine calmly elbowing Jeremy in the face when he annoyed her. Yup, those last two were my two favorites. Hee!

- As much as I adore me some Alaric, I totally did not even realize he wasn't in the rest of the episode until the episode was over. The show was THAT good.

- So I'm back to thinking Bonnie is going to die because of her promise that she would be alright. DON'T DIE, BONNIE! I LOVE YOU AGAIN! (Even if your portrayer did a REALLY crappy cover of Garbage's "I'm Only Happy When It Rains" -- only my favorite song by them -- and they played it in tonight's episode. I didn't even know it was her until I saw it on a TVD-music comm a few minutes ago. I do know that I remembered thinking during the show, 'Why are they playing a crappy cover of an awesome Garbage song? Their music choices are usually kick-ass.' *Sigh*)

- One teeny complaint: Elena is sleeping ... in full make-up, and push-up bra? Riiiiight! (Although, I did note that she was back to her sleepwear including pants, and not short shorts as she wore when Damon visited ... not that she knew he would be visiting, but still ....)

- I have to issue a mea culpa. I wrote about "Katerina" and the Damon/Rose sex stuff:

It really came across as the show deciding that dagnabbit! there hadn't been enough naked Ian Somerhalder, so let's get on that. Ooh! New vampire girl. Sure, Damon can bang her, non-naked-Damon-issue solved.
While I'm sure that was still a teeny part of the equation, obviously the key was that had Damon and Rose not hooked up, based on what we had seen, she would have called Stefan because she knew about him and Elena. However, because of her relationship with Damon, it made sense that she would feel comfortable and automatically call him first to help out. So, yeah, there was a reason. I shouldn't have doubted you, o show of mine!

- Elena, Elena, Elena! I loved what she did tonight. It showed me once again that Elena is not a cookie-cutter heroine who is just going to sit back and let everyone saved her. She is brave with a huge heart. I loved when she told Damon that she didn't question everyone else risking themselves for her, so why is she being questioned to risk herself for those she cares about? She saw the situation, thought it through and decided that if the choice was her life, or the lives of everyone she cares about, the choice that made the most sense was one for many, and she did her best to follow-through. Of course, I'm glad she failed cuz I love Elena, but her failure was mostly due to the continued lameness that is the wimpy vampire that is Rose.

Seriously, woman, you've got 350 years on Damon's ass (no matter how hot it is), and you begin a conversation with him with "don't be angry with me?" Really?! Was the sex *that* good? (Didn't seem like it judging from the after-nonglow.) Sigh. And then she runs. Of course, she ran. A part of me hopes that this is the end of her, but another part is actually enjoying the fact that she's such a flippin' wimp and Damon clearly sees that and will likely continue to make cracks about it. There's no emotional attachment to this chick for him at all, she's just a bed-warmer. Speaking of ... I wonder if we'll get some callback to Elena's discovery about that in the next episode? Hmm....

Still on Elena, those first two scenes at Slater's were quite interesting. She sees a dead body and there wasn't a moment of empathy, no, her first reaction was frustration at the inconvenience to her. This was followed by her complete lack of empathy for Alice (after all, she only had Rose's word that Alice only cared about being turned), and then her casually lying to Alice about Rose turning her. I mean, getting a bit crafty and a tad cold there, aren't you, Elena? But it makes sense. So much crap has happened to her, that it would harden a person.

- Lastly, I loved that there was some more of that genuine love there on display between Damon and Stefan in that final scene. I do love me my Salvatore brothers.

All in all, as a Damon/Elena fan, as a multi-shipping fan (of this show at least), of Damon, of The Vampire Diaries overall, this episode made me a happy, happy camper!

Bottom-line? OMG!I LOVE MY SHOW SO MUCH!
 
 
 
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Damon Elena promobadboy_fangirl on December 3rd, 2010 05:24 am (UTC)
I agree with like everything you said, so I'll just say WORD.

I too noticed particularly that Elena seemed Damon-like in her observations of both Slater's dead body and Alice's "grief." Definitely going through a change there, and becoming very like Damon in that she really only cares about the people she cares about. Everyone else is just a casualty--and worthy of manipulation to get to what she wants. When she said that to Alice about Rose turning her, I was so taken back to Damon telling Alaric that Pearl would know how to find Isobel. (Although she was sympathetic to Rose being a scaredy cat. LOL.)

Nina always looks at Ian's lips and I always wonder if that's because she can't help herself or because the director or script called for it *g*

Jeremy was awesome tonight. Gah, how could Bonnie walk away? The angst was killing me. He's just as brave as Elena, and his plan wasn't bad, he just wasn't quick enough, or he needed more dust or something!

Rose is a pathetic character and I hope she dies soon. But nice twist on Elijah. He's protecting the doppleganger. To what end, hmmm?

I loved all the Damon/Elena stuff, especially the broken arm line and her scuffling with him in the tomb. I loved that Stefan didn't come to talk to her, but waited until she left. And yes, i ship Stefan/Katherine, but do you really think he'll have sex with her? Maybe he's whoring himself out somehow. I don't know. But I agree, it's a brilliant way to take him out of the triangle equation, but not the whole situation.

Matt/Caroline!!! I love Matty so much, so much, and he was so pathetic (but not in an annoying way like Rose...), gah. I love Tyler too, though. I'm so confused as to what I want to happen there. Logically, Caroline can't be anywhere near Tyler when he turns. She's got to tell Matt the truth so he can help. Matt's the only one besides Jenna who has no effing idea what the hell is going on. He needs to get clued in!

THIS IS THE BEST SHOW IN THE WORLD. I ♥ IT SO MUCH!
ThroughAnAmberFocus: Vampire Diaries--Damon/Elenaamberfocus on December 3rd, 2010 09:30 am (UTC)
Definitely going through a change there, and becoming very like Damon in that she really only cares about the people she cares about. Everyone else is just a casualty--and worthy of manipulation to get to what she wants.

She reminded me very much here, more so than ever before, of the Elena of the books. Both in her manipulations of people, but also in her willingness to die for the most important ones in her life.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: TVD: Nina Ian head pressbadboy_fangirl on December 3rd, 2010 05:37 pm (UTC)
Oh, that's interesting. I've never read the books, so I didn't know about that.
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)04arabian on December 4th, 2010 02:50 pm (UTC)
I too noticed particularly that Elena seemed Damon-like in her observations of both Slater's dead body and Alice's "grief." Definitely going through a change there, and becoming very like Damon in that she really only cares about the people she cares about. Everyone else is just a casualty--and worthy of manipulation to get to what she wants. When she said that to Alice about Rose turning her, I was so taken back to Damon telling Alaric that Pearl would know how to find Isobel. (Although she was sympathetic to Rose being a scaredy cat. LOL.)

Interesting. I hadn't even thought of it like that, thinking more along the Katherine lines, but you're so right. She's becoming more Damon-like -- more proof that these two are alike intrinsically as opposed to surface similarities (that she and Stefan appear to have). Great point!

Nina always looks at Ian's lips and I always wonder if that's because she can't help herself or because the director or script called for it *g*

LOL! I have thought that, but there's no way with the state of the Damon/Elena relationship throughout the series and the specific scenes it's happened in (FNB - set viewers/Damon up to not realize at first the vervain necklace power; FMO - putting the necklace back on; AFGM - buttoning up his shirt, etc.) are all VERY specific to tension building between them. I can't believe that the show wouldn't stop Nina from doing so if Elena is not supposed to be feeling something because it would totally add another layer that if not meant to be there between Damon/Elena would have huge implications for how she feels about him.

Jeremy was awesome tonight. Gah, how could Bonnie walk away? The angst was killing me. He's just as brave as Elena, and his plan wasn't bad, he just wasn't quick enough, or he needed more dust or something!

He was awesome, but stupid. LOL! I think there was a reason we had Damon comment on him being a child because although he's only a year younger than the other teenagers, he really is more on the kid side in enough ways for it to count than the others and it showed. He took a stupidly huge risk; it was sweet, but still ... oh, Jeremy.

Rose is a pathetic character and I hope she dies soon. But nice twist on Elijah. He's protecting the doppleganger. To what end, hmmm?

Rose's utter wimpiness now just cracks me the hell up. Of course she ran away. Of course. As Damon said, she's been running for 500 years, LOL!

I ship Stefan/Katherine, but do you really think he'll have sex with her? Maybe he's whoring himself out somehow. I don't know. But I agree, it's a brilliant way to take him out of the triangle equation, but not the whole situation.

I don't know if it's more mind games, Katherine getting in his head, a dream or something. Maybe, more likely because, I dunno, I can't see Elena forgiving Stefan for a while, even if they're broken up still (I mean, I think they are). But doing the wild fandango with her look-alike who was his girlfriend before her after all she's done after only a few days being locked up with her? Yeah, I could see that hard to forgive ... and in a completely different way than the brother neck-snappage.

Matt/Caroline!!! I love Matty so much, so much, and he was so pathetic (but not in an annoying way like Rose...), gah. I love Tyler too, though. I'm so confused as to what I want to happen there. Logically, Caroline can't be anywhere near Tyler when he turns. She's got to tell Matt the truth so he can help. Matt's the only one besides Jenna who has no effing idea what the hell is going on. He needs to get clued in!

It would be interesting to see how Matt would react. I do like Matt/Caroline moments, but in the possibility of Caroline ships, he comes third for me. Stefan/Caroline (NUMBER ONE! LOVE THEM SO!!), then Tyler/Caroline (more interesting story) and then Matt and Caroline (he really treated her crappily post-car accident/near-death).

THIS IS THE BEST SHOW IN THE WORLD. I ♥ IT SO MUCH!

THIS! :D

Edited at 2010-12-04 02:52 pm (UTC)
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Care and Mattbadboy_fangirl on December 5th, 2010 03:36 am (UTC)
I've watched that scene in AFGM a few too many times just for the lip-look. So yummy, and I swear if Damon wasn't drunk there he would have been a little swifter on the uptake. How could you not stare at his lips, though, right? I mean, only if you were getting lost in his eyes...or if he was shirtless...

But I digress.

Jeremy was stupid, but so brave. And he ♥ Bonnie. He wanted to keep her safe. As Damon once said, hot trumps weird and chivalry trumps stupid, at least in my book. The scene back at Jer's house when he tells Bonnie she shouldn't have done it because she knew she wasn't strong enough, I was like HELLS YEAH! Jeremy's not the only stupid one!

then Tyler/Caroline (more interesting story) and then Matt and Caroline (he really treated her crappily post-car accident/near-death).

Yeah, but guy's a tool. ;-) I just like quoting Damon. Care just need to tell Matt the truth. Someone, SOMEWHERE, needs to clue him in, poor guy. I'd like someone to tell him he was compelled so he doesn't feel so guilty about the night Sarah died. Poor bb.

I really like Stefan/Caroline too. Care's just so awesome, the only one I don't want her with is Damon.
ThroughAnAmberFocus: Vampire Diaries Caroline Quizzicalamberfocus on December 3rd, 2010 09:40 am (UTC)
I swear, your posts appear, and they tease me for three or four hours until I can find a copy of the show. 5 hours tonight! I think I'm falling in love with Caroline/Tyler and I did not see that coming one bit. Their chemistry is just getting really good. I need a Caroline/Tyler icon from that moment on the couch.

I don't trust Elijah's motives for keeping Elena protected. I had a half formed thought in the last ep that maybe Elijah is Klause. Did Rose know Klause? I can't remember. If she did than that can't be, but if she didn't then maybe so. And maybe he just wants her safe until such time as he needs her to break the curse.

I kept hoping when Bonnie left Jeremy she'd turn back from the door and say, "It's not that I don't want to." And then totally not explain what she meant by that and leave anyway. Because I think she does want to. I just think she's pushes that down because it's a dangerous life and those types of attachments are even more dangerous. If she's worrying about Jeremy then she can't take the time she needs to do her job as we clearly saw tonight.

I'm also thinking that with Elena manipulating Alice by promising Rose would turn her, was she also manipulating Rose by offering her the ability to walk in the daylight. Hmm...time for thinky thoughts.

Edited at 2010-12-03 09:45 am (UTC)
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on December 4th, 2010 02:57 pm (UTC)
I swear, your posts appear, and they tease me for three or four hours until I can find a copy of the show. 5 hours tonight!

Aww! Sorry for the tease ... I do know how you feel being a fan of the BBC shows, though!

I think I'm falling in love with Caroline/Tyler and I did not see that coming one bit. Their chemistry is just getting really good. I need a Caroline/Tyler icon from that moment on the couch.

When the caps come out for it, I'll try and remember to snag a few of that moment to make some icons for you in the batch for this episode. (Or I'll just grab 'em and do it when I can and send it to you now, and I'll just add it in later?) I don't love them -- my Caroline shipping heart still belongs mostly to Stefan/Caroline -- but I definitely like them now where I didn't before this episode.

I don't trust Elijah's motives for keeping Elena protected. I had a half formed thought in the last ep that maybe Elijah is Klause. Did Rose know Klause? I can't remember. If she did than that can't be, but if she didn't then maybe so. And maybe he just wants her safe until such time as he needs her to break the curse.

I don't think he's Klaus; the show doesn't seem to pull fast ones like that. Plus, I think if he was, he would have just taken her. Elijah seems to have his own motives, I'm hoping that he's not all bad just because I love him so!

I kept hoping when Bonnie left Jeremy she'd turn back from the door and say, "It's not that I don't want to." And then totally not explain what she meant by that and leave anyway.

That would have been awesome!

Because I think she does want to. I just think she's pushes that down because it's a dangerous life and those types of attachments are even more dangerous. If she's worrying about Jeremy then she can't take the time she needs to do her job as we clearly saw tonight.

Oh, she totally does want to. I do think she's interested in Luka, but that's tied up a lot in the witchy thing, the Jeremy thing is something she doesn't want because of the relationship ties, but there is definitely something there. (wink/wink)

I'm also thinking that with Elena manipulating Alice by promising Rose would turn her, was she also manipulating Rose by offering her the ability to walk in the daylight. Hmm...time for thinky thoughts.

Yes, she was. You are right. As badboy_fangirl said above, Elena's getting very Damon-line in her thinking in these situations. Hmmm... (And I must pull out my Stefan icon now.)


Edited at 2010-12-04 02:59 pm (UTC)
Beccy: VD ~ Damon/Elena 21epic_love on December 3rd, 2010 10:20 am (UTC)
I can't be bothered to point to specific bits, but just know that I agree with everything you said.

OMG! I LOVE MY SHOW!
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)01arabian on December 4th, 2010 03:00 pm (UTC)
OMG! I LOVE MY SHOW!

THIS!! JUST THIS A GAZILLION TIMES!!!
Vickie: TVD - Stefan Thinky Thoughtssarcasticcheese on December 3rd, 2010 12:50 pm (UTC)
I figured out why Elena's self-sacrifice bothered me so much.

I get her reasoning for it and I totally understand. I agree that it's great that she's not sitting back and letting people protect her and taking matters into her own hands.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT. What bothered me about her taking off like that is that everyone that she's trying to save was out there at the same time, risking their neck for her while she was off trying to play Brave Elena. Bonnie and Jeremy put their lives on the line to try and save her (we didn't really have to worry about Stefan or Damon with this little task, because unless Katherine decided to kill them, they were in no danger), but Elena still ran off and tried to give herself up to Klaus. If something tragic had happened to Bonnie and/or Jeremy, and Elena gave herself to Klaus, she wouldn't have prevented what she was trying to prevent. Bonnie and/or Jeremy would still be dead and now Klaus would have had her. I may have felt different about it had she run off while Bonnie/Jeremy were at school or at least not trying to save her life.

In the end, it all worked out for the best. Jeremy has a bite mark on his neck, Bonnie passed out (again!) but is ok (for now).

So that's why it bothered me.

Also, can I just chuckle and laugh at you at the fact that just last week you were talking about how you really didn't care if Tyler or Matt died, because you just weren't really liking them? Or didn't particularly care? And for how most of the season you were really hating on Tyler and Michael Trevino (he's not charasmatic enough to pull this off)? And OMG, Tyler/Caroline? NO WAY (of course, I'm paraphrasing here). It just makes me chuckle at the 180 you've done on these characters and ships with just one episode. :) I think it's great - I've liked Michael Trevino this season and thought he's done a great job so far, so it's nice to see you on the same page as me in regards to this. And I loved Tyler/Caroline tonight. I like them better than Matt/Caroline, by a long shot actually. I thought the two of them had great chemistry and I like their storyline (in regards to a possible relationship) much better than Matt/Caroline.

I did love this episode - it was a great one. I loved the twist with Elijah trying to protect Elena, not hand her over to Klaus. I can't WAIT to here that storyline and why he's doing that. It was nice to know that Joanes really wasn't a bad guy as well.

I liked Bonnie & Luka's scene for what it was, but I do prefer her with Jeremy. Although, if she's going to die (and I too think she is), I don't want her with Jeremy, because that will probably send him over the edge, and I really, REALLY like Jeremy this season. Last season, he was a whiny, emo brat. This season, he's really come into his own, and GODDOM, Steven R. McQueen got hot. Then again, there really isn't any male on this show (with the exception of probably Luka and Joanes) that I wouldn't kick out of my bed.

I miss Alaric. I'm so glad that next week we FINALLY get some TEAM BADASS again.
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on December 4th, 2010 03:03 pm (UTC)
Well, we talked about it on the phone, and I see your point, I really do, but on the other hand -- she couldn't have possibly known what Jeremy was going to do, and as far as she knew Bonnie was just doing that first thing that she and Grams did that had no bad effect on either of them. It was only trying to re-open the tomb and keep it open forever that killed Grams.

Re: Tyler/Caroline. It just takes the story to play out. Plus, I resisted because of my Stefan/Caroline love, LOL!

like them better than Matt/Caroline, by a long shot actually. I thought the two of them had great chemistry and I like their storyline (in regards to a possible relationship) much better than Matt/Caroline.

Yes, I completely agree with this. It's just that in that moment on the porch, Matt looked so pretty and sweet and Caroline was so happy and hopeful and GAH! THIS SHOW!!!

I liked Bonnie & Luka's scene for what it was, but I do prefer her with Jeremy. Although, if she's going to die (and I too think she is), I don't want her with Jeremy, because that will probably send him over the edge, and I really, REALLY like Jeremy this season. Last season, he was a whiny, emo brat. This season, he's really come into his own, and GODDOM, Steven R. McQueen got hot. Then again, there really isn't any male on this show (with the exception of probably Luka and Joanes) that I wouldn't kick out of my bed.

Yes, to all of this. Well, not all of it, Joanes, I wouldn't kick out of bed. I think he's got some hot going on too. :)

TEAM BADASS!! YES!!! We need to see them in action again.
redbrunja: tvd | witchredbrunja on December 3rd, 2010 11:17 pm (UTC)
I also know that he had walking pneumonia for nigh a month and he was probably pushing through to give Damon that spark and bite as much as possible, and simply overcompensated due to his pathetically sick state

That makes so much sense. I've actually been hearing that in his voice for a while, and I remember thinking last night 'wow, that cold has really hung on.'

third was Katherine calmly elbowing Jeremy in the face when he annoyed her.

I had so much love for that moment.

I mean, getting a bit crafty and a tad cold there, aren't you, Elena? But it makes sense. So much crap has happened to her, that it would harden a person.

I loved that, and I'm loving the slow development of Elena into someone much more Katherine-like.
Arabian: Jeremy & Bonnie01arabian on December 4th, 2010 03:36 pm (UTC)
Re: the walking pneumonia

That makes so much sense. I've actually been hearing that in his voice for a while, and I remember thinking last night 'wow, that cold has really hung on.'

Yeah, he was really, really sick, so I really am cutting him slack on the overacting because (I love him dearly) but he so was, and has been for a few episodes now. I really think he's just been trying to push through, and again, overcompensated.

I had so much love for that moment.

Katherine calmly elbowing Jeremy in the face was so hysterical. I giggle just remembering it. SO DAMN FUNNY. I love Katherine.

I loved that, and I'm loving the slow development of Elena into someone much more Katherine-like.

badboy_fangirl made a really good point that she was much more like Damon in that aspect, and reading this I'm reminded that Nina based her performance of Katherine on how Ian played Damon because Damon learned how to be a vampire from Katherine, so it's all kinda a circle, LOL!
eolivet on December 4th, 2010 02:14 pm (UTC)
And it was so awesome that it made up for the over-the-top acting that we got from Ian in spades tonight.

OK, I'm glad that wasn't just me...of course, this could've been colored by watching the show with my husband and having to explain a bunch of things to him. (and my total whiplash at just seeing 1x14 when there were tons of real live dead vampire bodies in the tomb to it being...just Katherine. ;p )

The 'shippy stuff was fantastic, though I have to go back and watch it again when I'm not in narrator mode (seriously, I think there was one question he had that was right in the middle of a D/E scene and I was like "I don't KNOW!" and then magically "remembered" at the commercial break. Hee ;p )

She sees a dead body and there wasn't a moment of empathy

To be fair, it was a vampire body -- does she generally have empathy when she sees those? Human bodies, sure -- but vampire ones?

(I can't bring myself to care about Matt. Loved the tension/fear/uncertainty in the Tyler/Caroline scene. Really enjoying their unlikely connection. :)

Next week's promo...wow. Stefan/Katherine really are awesome together. I did think, just for a second, when Katherine had Jeremy as her "new toy," "How weird must that be for him, some chick who looks like his kind and loving sister is this murderous demon who wants to kill him?" But I swear, there are times I forget Elena and Katherine are played by the same actress. :)

Really good ep, and you have one more convert in my husband. :D Going to make my watching of the show a tad less enjoyable for the next couple eps, but I think it'll pay off in the long run. :)
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)02arabian on December 4th, 2010 03:42 pm (UTC)
OK, I'm glad that wasn't just me...of course, this could've been colored by watching the show with my husband and having to explain a bunch of things to him. (and my total whiplash at just seeing 1x14 when there were tons of real live dead vampire bodies in the tomb to it being...just Katherine. ;p )

Yeah, poor boy was really sick, and I think he's been overcompensating big-time. (And squee! You saw 14 -- you saw Elena go to him, the necklace scene, calling to him to leave the tomb, hugging him, calling to ask about him! SQUEE!!!)

The 'shippy stuff was fantastic, though I have to go back and watch it again when I'm not in narrator mode (seriously, I think there was one question he had that was right in the middle of a D/E scene and I was like "I don't KNOW!" and then magically "remembered" at the commercial break. Hee ;p )

Yes, you must rewatch those scenes, I've rewatched all of the DE scenes a bunch of times already. GAH! Their chemistry is insane!

She sees a dead body and there wasn't a moment of empathy

To be fair, it was a vampire body -- does she generally have empathy when she sees those? Human bodies, sure -- but vampire ones?


She tends to see vampires as people (who happen to be undead). She couldn't love Stefan, have feelings for Damon, have liked Lexi, otherwise. Elena from last season pre-Katherine would have reacted, I do believe.

(I can't bring myself to care about Matt. Loved the tension/fear/uncertainty in the Tyler/Caroline scene. Really enjoying their unlikely connection. :)

But he was so pretty and sweet on the porch scene.... I mean, I don't ship him and Caroline at all. Of course, I don't even really ship Caroline and Tyler. I'm all about Stefan and Caroline, but I am liking Caroline/Tyler more at least. :)

Next week's promo...wow. Stefan/Katherine really are awesome together.

The question though is it real or a dream? As I said to badboy_fangirl: "... Doing the wild fandango with her look-alike who was his girlfriend before her after all she's done after only a few days being locked up with her? Yeah, I could see that hard to forgive ... and in a completely different way than the brother neck-snappage."

I did think, just for a second, when Katherine had Jeremy as her "new toy," "How weird must that be for him, some chick who looks like his kind and loving sister is this murderous demon who wants to kill him?"

Heh! I was thinking Katherine might come on to him, and that would be REALLY freaky for Jeremy.

But I swear, there are times I forget Elena and Katherine are played by the same actress. :)

Absolutely; Nina is doing an AMAZING job. They really seem like they are played by different actresses. Everything about her changes when she plays Katherine.

Really good ep, and you have one more convert in my husband. :D Going to make my watching of the show a tad less enjoyable for the next couple eps, but I think it'll pay off in the long run. :)

Woohoo!

Edited at 2010-12-04 03:43 pm (UTC)
luvbama: nianluvbama on December 4th, 2010 05:28 pm (UTC)
Great recap, as usual, and I concur with most everything you said. However, I would like to 1) ask a question about the "I'll throw you over my shoulder" scene; and 2) get your opinion about something in the preview of next week's episode:

1) At the very end of the scene where Damon told Elena he would throw her over his shoulder, he was all up close and personal with her and then walked away leaving Elena with--what seemed to me--a look on her face like something seemed familiar. And then there was that tantalizing little sound effect like something was about to happen. I hoped we were going to see her recall vague impressions of when Damon compelled her but, alas, we got nothing more. Did you notice that or am I just totally delusional?

2) In the extended promo for next week, we see Stefan and Katherine going at it. Who knows if it will be real or not, but I did notice at 0:23 that Katherine is looking over Stefan's shoulder almost like she knows someone can see. Someone named Elena, perhaps? I know Damon is supposed to keep Elena away from the tomb, but I just don't see that happening. So, what do you think about this?

I've loved many a show through the years, but I love this one beyond words!
Arabian: Ian & Nina(PS)03arabian on December 4th, 2010 05:41 pm (UTC)
1) Nah, I didn't see that. Elena's look to me was recovering from the fact that she does seem to forget sometimes just how strong these vampires are, and the beat of music seemed more like it was gearing up for the next scene as opposed to closing out this scene. Sorry.

2) I noticed that look from Katherine too, but I don't think it's Elena. I think it's Damon. After all, Damon's going to be bringing Stefan blood probably and if it *is* real, then I could see Katherine giving that look to Damon.
luvbama: love happensluvbama on December 4th, 2010 06:01 pm (UTC)
1) Previously, I didn't think I cared whether or not Damon's compelling actually worked. Now I sorta kinda really want her not to have been. Guess I'm just trying to make that a reality, lol.

2) It being Damon who sees works for me too. It's just that I'm so ready for Elena to see Stefan in a not-so-good way, and this would pretty much do it.
Arabian: Damon & Elena02arabian on December 4th, 2010 08:51 pm (UTC)
I'm leaning toward that it didn't work now because I think that Elena would have pulled out the 'if you loved me, you would let me do this..." card at some point in this episode. But, again, with this show, you never know.

I hope it is Damon because I'm curious to see his reaction because we should know once and for all if he is truly over Katherine.
lacrimadraconis: TVD Damon Elena poollacrimadraconis on December 7th, 2010 11:31 am (UTC)
I can't even count how often I said "Aw, Jeremy!" or "Aw, Matt!" out loud during this episode. Probably equally as much as my knees got weak during the Damon/Elena scenes. Loved the tension!

For me this was the first time that I thought Ian was going a little over the top with his acting. I usually don't mind because I think of Damon as a very over the top character, but I really noticed it this time. Still love him and as you said, poor bb was sick for ages here, so everyone should cut him some slack.

Also, I agree on everything you said about Elena, Rose (she turned out to be such a blergh character) and Elijah. I just don't think that Bonnie will die.

Great review as always, Jenn! I love reading your ramblings about our favorite show! IT ROCKS SO MUCH!
Alishakalishaka on January 9th, 2011 12:19 am (UTC)
but I totally ship Stefan and Katherine ... and Stefan and Caroline ... and Caroline and Matt ... and Caroline and Tyler ... and Tyler and Jeremy ... and Jeremy and Bonnie ... and I kinda thought that Bonnie and Luka were cute this go-around too. I mean, DAYUM!, this show.

YES!
Arabian: Damon06arabian on January 9th, 2011 12:29 am (UTC)
MAN! I reread this entire post so I'd have a better idea of what you were responding to and then I got to your response. I love you dearly, but I burst out with "That's it?!?!" LMAO!

Hee!