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29 October 2010 @ 02:40 pm
I miss my 'Community'  
Sigh, last night's episode of Community finally pushed me to share my (unpopular) opinion on the show. This is not the show I love anymore, and hasn't been for awhile. The show from the first half of the season that was about this crazy, low-rent community college where this group of strangers wound up sharing a study group and formed a bond. Sure some zany things happened, but they were mostly within the realm of the study group, the college, the school, and, erm, reality. But since the paintball episode (which I thought was way too over-the-top), followed by the Goodfellas episode (again, too OTT) and the plethora of "theme" episodes we've already had this season (all OTT), I'm over it.

I LOVED the original vision of Community. I laughed myself silly and just loved it. The warm glow, the love ever present and growing between this group, the romantic toning down of Jeff and Britta -- the one element that never worked for me. I just loved it. Now? It's an inventive show, it's creative, but I don't laugh much beyond a few chuckles here or there, and I certainly don't feel the love or the warmth except in all too brief moments. It's mostly all about gimmicks and crazy, crazy zaniness. *sigh* I want my show back. This is not my show; and I don't think it will ever be again because I'm clearly in the minority. The paintball ep is considered a masterpiece, and I've read nothing but raves about last night's episode, and plenty of love for the space episode too. Ah well.
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She was mean and she had seashells in her hair!: comm ♦ friggin' trianglesdollsome on October 29th, 2010 07:28 pm (UTC)
This is actually how I've been feeling this season, too: it's been pretty entertaining, but I feel like there was such genuine warmth between the characters, and it's just not there anymore. It's fun to watch, but I don't really care, and that makes me sad! So I guess I care a little. I just -- wish they could still make me care!
Arabian: Annie02arabian on October 30th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC)
I just -- wish they could still make me care!

Yes, this! So. Very. Much.
live through this and you won't look back: bike-riding bluth boybuffyx on October 29th, 2010 07:53 pm (UTC)
I'm with you. I actually loved Modern Warfare, I thought it was hilarious, but this season they keep trying to recreate it with these big concepts and they just keep falling short. Even my mother has commented (negatively) on the change. I want more character-focused episodes.
Arabian: TVarabian on October 30th, 2010 08:09 pm (UTC)
I do think they're trying to recreate the success of "Modern Warfare," and for me, that makes it's doubly fail because I didn't even like MW to begin with.
Kelly: Troy Abed singlavendergaia on October 29th, 2010 08:02 pm (UTC)
I thought the space episode was really overrated, but that last night's episode managed to do things that even the paintball episode failed at, which is to have an over the top theme to focus on some character traits that might have otherwise been lost, specifically Troy's feelings about his changing social status and role in live (as well as his epic love for Abed). Or maybe the paintball episode tried that and I Just didn't give a damn because Jeff/Britta bores me to death.

I'm sorry you're not enjoying it though.
Arabian: Abed - Pencilarabian on October 30th, 2010 08:13 pm (UTC)
I do agree that the zombie episode did work on character levels, but it's just too little too late for me at this point, you know. And it sucks because I adored this show. I think part of the problem is that Community is one of five shows that I claimed as my favorite going into this season and the other four are living up to my love of them ... Community is not, and perhaps that makes it more glaring.

Or maybe the paintball episode tried that and I Just didn't give a damn because Jeff/Britta bores me to death.

The big problem for me was that as someone who is also bored silly by Jeff and Britta, everyone else was gone so early in the episode and it was just them and I. DON'T. CARE. Ugh.

I'm sorry you're not enjoying it though.

It's not that I'm not enjoying it; I am. I'm not loving it anymore and I absolutely LOVED it before. :(
irlandesakirlandesak on October 29th, 2010 08:19 pm (UTC)
I hear you. I feel like something has changed but I don't think it's quite as simple to define. I think it's the fact that the first season seemed to really go with characterization. It seemed to embrace characters and character development. It enjoyed exposing the strengths and weaknesses and as it gave the relationships depth, it gave its characters depth.

And I can't help but think that Dan Harmon got a little freaked out by the "shipping" or at least was afraid of being boxed in by it. I can respect that fear for a show only in its first season but he took it farther than he should have if that was the case. There's a case to be made for letting hints simmer beneath the surface.

So he took it to a huge place in the finale and almost used the premiere to say "we're not going to do that this season." In a sense, he treated his characters like regular sitcom characters where what happened in previous episodes had no impact on the current episode being written. Sure, they may reference things in the past but they haven't kept the emotional continuity. The problem is that the show he sold last year to audiences was written with that emotional continuity. The game can't be changed now without viewers feeling like something is missing.

Last night was good. It was inventive. It was better than almost any other high concept show this season and I may have even loved it if there hadn't been so many other "theme" episodes this season. I think a lot of people are like me and I have seen criticism of last night's episode. It's not all raves. People are getting tired of the concept shows. Luckily, the plot lines for future stories seem to be a little more normal sounding so hopefully the show will ground itself emotionally a bit more.

In one just small area of positivity, I do think there was more of a hint of realistic characterization last night amidst all the "high concept" chaos. More than there has been this season.

Arabian: Annie01arabian on October 30th, 2010 11:07 pm (UTC)
I agree with you in that s1 was more about the characters and their interaction (shippy or not), while this season seems to be missing that to a degree.

And I can't help but think that Dan Harmon got a little freaked out by the "shipping" or at least was afraid of being boxed in by it. I can respect that fear for a show only in its first season but he took it farther than he should have if that was the case. There

If that's the case? He needs to GET.OVER.IT! He's ruining a large part of the charm of his show.

Last night was good. It was inventive. It was better than almost any other high concept show this season and I may have even loved it if there hadn't been so many other "theme" episodes this season.

And I think you nailed it right there. It was good; but I'm so over the theme shows that the good about it was dulled by theme overkill.
hiddeneloisehiddeneloise on October 29th, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC)
It's not such an unpopular opinion. The show feels this year as if it's being written by completely different writers. For me, it was never that great of a show, but it was at least reliably funny. I don't remember laughing this year during any of the new eps. And would they stop already with the self-aware meta schtick? It was overdone last season and it really greats now, because it's not offset by the funny.
Arabian: Logan_Hiarabian on October 30th, 2010 11:10 pm (UTC)
I'm actually surprised by the number of responses that basically agree with me to a degree. I truly thought I was the only one who felt this way.

it was ... reliably funny. I don't remember laughing this year during any of the new eps. And would they stop already with the self-aware meta schtick?

Yup, yup, yup. A gazillion yups!
Taylah: Britta - Cancerx_rose_tyler_x on October 29th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
You are not alone! I agree for the most part. I mean, I love the crazy episodes, but I've been turned off by the fact that most of them are completely crazy, now. Accounting for lawyers was the one with most "heart" this season and it didn't get the best critics. I don't know, it feels awkward. There is something missing and I think that is something most of the fans feel.

And it's not just because of the shipping to be honest, it's more of a character thing. Apart from Troy and Abed (and Shirley and Abed on last week's episode) I don't feel like these people are together because they geniunely love each other anymore, it's WEIRD.

There is something off, definitely!
Arabian: Jeff & Annie02arabian on October 30th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
ou are not alone! I agree for the most part.

I admit, I was surprised to see you agree with me too. But I guess I shouldn't be, LOL! We do tend to have similar tastes in fandom with a few variations.

I mean, I love the crazy episodes, but I've been turned off by the fact that most of them are completely crazy, now.

Yes! I love the crazy stuff (I mean, come on! The Greendale Human Being? Insane! But awesome-insane!), now it's just TOO MUCH now. Exactly.

And it's not just because of the shipping to be honest, it's more of a character thing. Apart from Troy and Abed (and Shirley and Abed on last week's episode) I don't feel like these people are together because they geniunely love each other anymore, it's WEIRD.

Right. The heart is missing; it really is. :(
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Arabian: What's not to Love? (Logan)arabian on October 30th, 2010 11:16 pm (UTC)
Hah! Thanks. :)
sorrynosorryno on October 30th, 2010 06:07 am (UTC)
I hated the space episode, but I loved the Zombie one. I do think they need to go back to basics and actually have, like, a PLOT.

What I hope is that the gimmicks will grab new viewers and turn them into repeat watchers so that the show moves off the bubble and into safety.

Arabian: Annie02arabian on October 30th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
I didn't hate the space episode, but then I didn't love the Zombie one either. However, I did definitely think that the zombie one was better than the space one.

I do think they need to go back to basics and actually have, like, a PLOT.

OMG! This so much.

What I hope is that the gimmicks will grab new viewers and turn them into repeat watchers so that the show moves off the bubble and into safety.

I'm just afraid that Dan Harmon is so in love with his press that he won't go back to what made the show so work in the past. :(
redbrunja: community | disney faceredbrunja on November 3rd, 2010 10:35 pm (UTC)
I can't believe this episode is getting raves. To me, it broke the contract to the viewer that even Modern Warfare and the chicken finger episode didn't.

Needless to say, I didn't like it. The only think I DID like was Rich being totally into Annie.
Arabian: Annie01arabian on November 14th, 2010 01:03 am (UTC)
Oh, I didn't see that. For me, by using the government-rations it "explained" the unreality of the zombie thing to enough of a degree that it felt more real. Which is something I can't say for either MW or the GoodFellas episode.

I DID like was Rich being totally into Annie.

I agree with that. If Jeff ain't gonna recognize the awesome in front of him, let someone else, dangit!
em1983em1983 on November 13th, 2010 03:00 am (UTC)
I agree. I'm not as fond of the bigger-than-ever episodes as I am of the cozier ones. Last night's episode was a return to form for me and really reinvigorated the show. If you haven't seen it, give it a look Maybe it'll reaffirm your love.
Arabian: Abed - Pencilarabian on November 14th, 2010 01:04 am (UTC)
I did like last night's episode better than most this season, but it's still too little for me. I need more. I am hopeful that the zombie episode and this one are a trend. Unfortunately, I really did NOT like the mean girls/zen garden episode in between them AT ALL.

I'm trying to have faith, though, because I did love this show once upon a time so very much.