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30 September 2010 @ 10:21 pm
2.04 - 'Memory Lane' (The Vampire Diaries)  
New episode! WHEE! And I'm home and watched the episode when it aired! Yay! Thus, I have a timely post. :)

As a Vampire Diaries fan, I think this was a very solid episode, with excellent narrative flow and great set-up for upcoming episodes. As a Damon fan, to put it simply ... I was pissed. This is the fourth episode (out of four episodes this season) in a row that has presented Damon as a loser-boy. And this one was the worst of the lot because ...

a) He only had the one really good one-liner ("Really? That's surprising. I'm a dick."), and that really sucks because a good chunk of Damon's dialogue generally belongs in the quotable quotes section.

b) We had Damon look like a fool in 1864 and present-day Mystic Falls. We had Damon metaphorically fall on his face in front of Mason. We had Damon being insulted and looked down upon behind his back (Katherine -- "Damon was typical Damon"). We had Damon being kept out of the dark (Stefan and Elena's "break")*. We had Damon rejected and insulted again by Elena (still deserved though, dude did snap her brother's neck). When the least 'you suck, Damon!' moments came from a guy he just officially met (Mason) and Jenna, you know it's not a good episode for Damon.

* I could be wrong, but I will say that I think there might be a possibility that Damon wasn't fooled. He had just the slightest considering look on his face, and he did tell Katherine that he wasn't jealous over her, implying that he was jealous about Elena and Stefan. And why would he be thinking that right then after he just heard them break-up unless he suspected there was something fishy? So, I think Damon may have realized that they are faking this. (Which, honestly, unless they actually plan on staying apart and truly making it look real is a pretty stupid plan because Katherine is *not* stupid and will see through it like nobody's business.)

c) The loserville Damon edit was paired with 'and angels descended down from on high and annointed Stefan as one of their own.' Look, I love Stefan; I loved him last season when many found him boring and either too Angel-esque or Edward-ish. But the saintly halo placed upon Stefan from every frickin' person on the planet while Damon is kicked over and over again shoved down our throats side by side was just too much. *sigh* (Paul Wesley was still great though, love him!)

With that said, I do get the narrative flow, and as a Damon/Elena shipper who is so not into Stefan/Elena, I think it's telling that the show didn't make their "break-up" a cliffhanger of sorts, but resolved and told the truth to viewers right away. It seems that by doing so, they pretty much made it clear that they know that the Stefan/Elena relationship is not a draw. But I've gone off-point. I do get the narrative flow, and I do believe that they are deliberately trying to get Damon to his lowest point. You'd think it was there at the end of "The Return," but I don't think so because Damon slipped right back into his snarky, pretending not-to-care ways showing that while he gets the gist of it, he doesn't really, truly get the totality of it. He even told Elena last week that she hated him before, but grew to like him, so she could again ... as if there's any comparison to his past actions in Elena's eyes.

So I think that's part of this process. Get Damon to really, truly get it. Also, he's floundering. He genuinely wants to protect Elena, his brother, this town. He genuinely loves all three, and yet, other than the council members who don't know the truth of what he is, no one gives a damn about him. He wants to help, and yet he knows deep-down that everyone -- with the maybe exception of Stefan, and because of their history it doesn't carry the weight it should -- would be happier if he was gone. So Damon doesn't really know how to act, and so he's making mistakes, he's kinda clueless. I get it; I get the narrative flow.

:pouts: It still sucks as a Damon fan.

Random points --

- I freaking love Mason. He. is. Awesome. Taylor Kinney is fabulous. Go casting department.

- I rolled my eyes SO VERY HARD at the Ford Fiesta product placement. Geez.

- So, I think it was supposed to be surprising that Katherine was really here for Stefan; she's doing this because she genuinely wants Stefan back, she genuinely loves him. Paired with Stefan telling Elena that Katherine wasn't really back for him with Katherine recalling that memory which was for no one else's benefit, I do believe we can take it as truth. I do think that was supposed to be a bit of a twist. However, I've been convinced that Katherine truly loved Stefan -- or as much as she's capable -- since that opening scene of "Blood Brothers" and I've said as much before, so, yeah, not surprising to me at all.

- I LOVED the shot of Caroline and Stefan sitting at the tables alone. I might icon that. :)

- On that note ... wah! No real Stefan/Caroline moments in this episode. Boo!

- I liked that Elena DID know that something was up simply because she knows Caroline so well.

- I continue to be shocked at how much better the chemistry between Paul and Nina is when she's playing Katherine.

- So, Damon? Katherine never compelled you? Yeah, wrong dude.

- Speaking of Damon and Katherine though, I did love that in their scene together, Damon really just did not seem to give a shit. I don't doubt that there is still something there, but the events of the premiere seem to have broken the main thrust of the spell she had him under. On the other hand, Stefan is still clearly affected by her. sarcasticcheese commented that it seems like they are showing the parallel of Elena denying feeling anything but hate for Damon with Stefan denying the same re: Katherine. And in both cases, I do think we have enough evidence to know that they are lying to themselves.

- Sigh, Alaric and Damon again, but no bromantic moments to squee about, just a few glances. Not enough, show! I want more. I want more!

- No Jeremy. Two in a row! WAH!! (No Bonnie; didn't miss her at all.) Hmm, just realized while typing, no Matt either. Guess, I didn't miss him either.

- While I wasn't OHMYGOD!This episode is awesome, I do think it's a good sign that other than the premiere -- which really was a continuation of the finale, more resolution for season one stuffies, while the episodes that have followed are set-up, laying the groundwork for this season -- episodes two through four, quality-wise, I'd put about the same level of episodes five through ten of season one. Those were the ones where the show really began to find its footing and get good and lay the groundwork for the rush of OHMYGOD!episodes (basically eleven through episode one of season two) that followed. So I'm not complaining.

- I wish that the CW promo department did not include the cheek kiss in the preview because that small moment really was the best of Stefan's dream and having that spoiled and leading up to so much speculation -- that frankly was all-around way more awesome from a Damon/Elena fan point of view -- kinda sucked. With that said, it was interesting that Katherine feels that Stefan's biggest fear with regards to Elena is not her death, but rather that she'll be with Damon. Hmm.... Of course, on the other hand, she did say that she was using that to show him how she felt, but that still shows that she believes knowing Stefan as well as she does that *he* believes that the possibility of Elena choosing Damon is there.

- And still, cheek-kiss! Full-on kiss (even if interrupted by Stefan's pain) and cute Damon/Elena, even if not real! Plus, SQUEE!!! (yeah, there were a few squee-worthy moments!) Damon/Elena kitchen scene. WOOHOO! Always, always a win!

- I am a tad disappointed that all we got from Jenna regarding the porch-kiss witness was that *Damon* couldn't keep his paws off of "Elena." From Jenna's point of view that night, "Elena" was pawing with fine reciprocation. Still, I did love that despite all of that, and without able to use compulsion, Damon did begin to make inroads with Jenna. Yay, go Damon.

- And go Nina! Nina Dobrev continues to do an AMAZING job distinguishing between the two characters. I loved, loved, loved how in the dual scene, as Elena she was facing Katherine head-on, but Katherine had her head cocked slightly, head pointed down a bit as if looking down upon the lesser Elena. And it's something that Nina does often as Katherine; awesome acting choice that fits the character perfectly.

So all in all, it was a good episode, I just was bummed as a Damon fan, and I do think that cast/crew (Ian, Nina, Julie, IAN!, I'm looking at you and your tweets) did hype it up too much. I was expecting to be overwhelmed because of that hype; as it was, I was a teeny bit underwhelmed. Ah well. I do believe that upon rewatch when the season is over and we've gotten the Damon pay-off (as I do think we'll get), it will be a perfect fit. I just trust the creative team behind this show so much; I am so their bitch.
 
 
 
the resolute urgency of nowlaniaaa on October 1st, 2010 02:49 am (UTC)
i haven't seen the episode (i'm waiting on a good link to view, or a good download) but i'm so glad i read this first!

i've been up and down about this episode after so much hype, and the cheek kiss, and then apparently there was an actual kiss, so yeah. i was quite like, "...wtf." but after reading this it's given me way more grounding and a better idea of what to expect.

also, i know exactly what you mean by damon playing loser-boy. i am not impressed with this turn of events. we know he does some shitty things, but his character isn't a loser and it's getting frustrating seeing him portrayed a bit like that.

He genuinely wants to protect Elena, his brother, this town. He genuinely loves all three, and yet, other than the council members who don't know the truth of what he is, no one gives a damn about him. He wants to help, and yet he knows deep-down that everyone -- with the maybe exception of Stefan, and because of their history it doesn't carry the weight it should -- would be happier if he was gone. So Damon doesn't really know how to act, and so he's making mistakes, he's kinda clueless.

here i go with the repeating :L but honestly, i can not put into words how perfectly you've said it. just. this. sums up everything i've had in my head.

I'd put about the same level of episodes five through ten of season one. Those were the ones where the show really began to find its footing and get good and lay the groundwork for the rush of OHMYGOD!episodes

this is what i want. this is what i loved about season one, how it wasn't just thrown together to make it seem awesome, it actually worked up into that awesomeness. if season two plays out like that i will be a happy camper.

(and, omfg, these are the amazing long talks about tvd that had me sold.) :L
Arabian: Damon03arabian on October 1st, 2010 03:02 am (UTC)
I think you'll probably enjoy the episode more than I since you won't be going into it with the OMG!Hype! It IS a good episode, it's just not, well, OMG!

Yeah, Damon's not a loser, but he is pathetic and I think we're seeing that fully play out. I mean, the guy held onto a fantasy for 150 years! And even after he knew that she didn't feel the same about him, he was still willing to give her another chance and live throughout eternity with her. I'm hoping that all of this is build-up to Damon finally, truly coming into his own. Boy just needs someone to love him, and, yeah, I'm going there, more than Stefan. So it's kinda got to be his father, Katherine or Elena. And daddy's dead, Katherine's a raging bitch and he knows that for sure now, so that leaves Elena.

this is what i want. this is what i loved about season one, how it wasn't just thrown together to make it seem awesome, it actually worked up into that awesomeness. if season two plays out like that i will be a happy camper.

And that is what I'm counting on. Even with episodes that don't make me squee and OMG! (like most of the second half of season one did), I have faith because I do believe it's leading up to those OMG!SQUEE! episodes.
the resolute urgency of nowlaniaaa on October 1st, 2010 03:59 am (UTC)
i've managed to get a good download, so i'm on my way! :L

oh yeah, hahaha, i have no arguments on the pathetic. i remember when he found out she wasn't in the tomb, and he was still trying to find her and reconcile their past. on an agreement with the idea that he needs somebody to love him,i like how the options lead to elena. she has to do it. seriously. or my heart will die.


i'm really looking forward to the crux of season two, where everything is bound to go to shit. because the writers love leaving us in the lurch, it's gotta happen. (really, i'm just greedy for drama and am hoping for it) :L

(also, i've just noticed, i think you mean to meant to have "2.04" in your entry title, rather than "2.03?")
Arabian: Elena03arabian on October 1st, 2010 08:23 pm (UTC)
oh yeah, hahaha, i have no arguments on the pathetic. i remember when he found out she wasn't in the tomb, and he was still trying to find her and reconcile their past. on an agreement with the idea that he needs somebody to love him,i like how the options lead to elena. she has to do it. seriously. or my heart will die.

Yes, this!

i'm really looking forward to the crux of season two, where everything is bound to go to shit.

Oh, GOD, YES, THIS!!!

(Thanks, I fixed the title.)
sweetiegrrl2346sweetiegrrl2346 on October 1st, 2010 10:24 am (UTC)
I'm home, watched the episode when it aired! Yay! Thus, I have a timely post. :)

LOL, I was home and watched it when it aired, but there was so much going on in this episode that I had to watch it two more times before I could get my thoughts coherent enough for a reaction post.


I do get the narrative flow, and I do believe that they are deliberately trying to get Damon to his lowest point.

ITA with this. I truly believe that Damon's entire character arc thus far this season has been about breaking him down so that his rise to romantic hero will be that much more epic. Whether that'll be this season or later is anyone's guess, but I'm sure it'll be amazing once we get to it. But yeah, it's not fun watching him continually getting kicked in the balls every week. :(

I freaking love Mason. He. is. Awesome. Taylor Kinney is fabulous.

I've been on the fence about Mason, but he totally won me over this ep, especially when he was trading bad puns with Damon. And, btw, Mason/Damon, Alaric = BroT3!

Sigh, Alaric and Damon again, but no bromantic moments to squee about, just a few glances.

Really?! I thought Ric calling Damon "buddy" was pretty squee-worthy! It just came so naturally from him, lol.

I rolled my eyes SO VERY HARD at the Ford Fiesta product placement. Geez.

This annoyed me so much. I am now boycotting Ford (not that I have any money to buy a car, but that's beside the point...)

I continue to be shocked at how much better the chemistry between Paul and Nina is when she's playing Katherine.

Me too. It's like I'm watching two totally different actors when they have S/K scenes. It's amazing. I love the dynamics of their characters, and I like how their yin/yang relationship parallels Damon and Elena's.

So, I think it was supposed to be surprising that Katherine was really here for Stefan

While I do agree that Katherine's truly in love with Stefan, I still don't buy that he's the reason she's back. Maybe a side project while she's there, but not the true reason. I think it has more to do with her running away from someone/thing, and Mystic Falls has the answer to her problem.

So, Damon? Katherine never compelled you? Yeah, wrong dude.

Once again... poor Damon. :(

No Jeremy. Two in a row! WAH!! (No Bonnie; didn't miss her at all.) Hmm, just realized while typing, no Matt either. Guess, I didn't miss him either.

And again, I didn't even notice they were missing until I read it from you. Guess that shows where my head is at regarding the plotlines I'm actually interested in, lol.

episodes two through four, quality-wise, I'd put about the same level of episodes five through ten of season one

I hope this is true, because the mid-eps last season were fantastic set-ups.

And still, cheek-kiss! Full-on kiss (even if interrupted by Stefan's pain) and cute Damon/Elena, even if not real! Plus, SQUEE!!! (yeah, there were a few squee-worthy moments!) Damon/Elena kitchen scene. WOOHOO! Always, always a win!

Ahhh, the cheek kiss! SQUEEE!! I rewound that dream sequence and kitchen scene more times than I'm proud to admit. And I think I may have started hyperventilating after the full kiss since I was so *not* expecting it, lol. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with how much Delena we get even though Elena still "hates" him. ^_^

Nina Dobrev continues to do an AMAZING job distinguishing between the two characters.

I have a total girl crush on Nina. And it's kinda ironic, 'cause I hated her character when I used to watch Degrassi with my sister. Needless to say, her acting skills have soared through the roof since then.



I actually thought this episode lived up pretty well to the hype everyone was giving. I've always been particular to flashback eps, and I think getting Katherine's side of the story gave us a whole new perspective on the S/K/D situation. We have lots and lots to think about until next week's episode, and that always makes me happy. ;)
Arabian: Damon05arabian on October 1st, 2010 08:14 pm (UTC)
it's not fun watching him continually getting kicked in the balls every week. :(

Sigh, no, it's not. :(

I've been on the fence about Mason, but he totally won me over this ep, especially when he was trading bad puns with Damon. And, btw, Mason/Damon, Alaric = BroT3!

It would be awesome if they could somehow get along down the road. The three would be so very pretty together. EPIC BroT3!

Really?! I thought Ric calling Damon "buddy" was pretty squee-worthy! It just came so naturally from him, lol.

Hmm, I missed the "buddy," I'll have to rewatch it. It just, gah, I want more. I'm greedy.

"I continue to be shocked at how much better the chemistry between Paul and Nina is when she's playing Katherine."

Me too. It's like I'm watching two totally different actors when they have S/K scenes. It's amazing. I love the dynamics of their characters, and I like how their yin/yang relationship parallels Damon and Elena's.


I do think that Damon/Katherine have chemistry because I do think that it's impossible for Ian and Nina to NOT have chemistry, but with the yin/yang story of Stefan/Katherine it just really highlights the chemistry that Nina and Paul do have.

While I do agree that Katherine's truly in love with Stefan, I still don't buy that he's the reason she's back. Maybe a side project while she's there, but not the true reason. I think it has more to do with her running away from someone/thing, and Mystic Falls has the answer to her problem.

You could be right, and I don't doubt the side project (maybe she wants the moonstone back), but I'm thinking that it's whatever else reason she's there that's the side project, while Stefan is the real reason. It makes sense that she would come for him now if she'd been keeping tabs she would have known of his "hatred" for her, but then finding out he was dating her look-alike? Well, that would have got her thinking.

"episodes two through four, quality-wise, I'd put about the same level of episodes five through ten of season one"

I hope this is true, because the mid-eps last season were fantastic set-ups.


I think they have their flow and know what works, so I'm certainly optimistic.

Ahhh, the cheek kiss! SQUEEE!! I rewound that dream sequence and kitchen scene more times than I'm proud to admit. And I think I may have started hyperventilating after the full kiss since I was so *not* expecting it, lol. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with how much Delena we get even though Elena still "hates" him. ^_^

Yup, this!! :D

I actually thought this episode lived up pretty well to the hype everyone was giving.

I wish it had for me, but I was let-down. I think it's because as much as I do love Stefan, I just so much more exponentionally love Damon and the hard-on from everyone for Stefan paired with the letdown from everyone about Damon just made it hard to enjoy.

Edited at 2010-10-01 08:15 pm (UTC)
Beccy: VD ~ Damon1epic_love on October 1st, 2010 11:38 am (UTC)
My poor little woobie Damon, he just made me so sad.

I too want more Alaric/Damon, bring it show!
Arabian: Damon01arabian on October 1st, 2010 08:15 pm (UTC)
Pretty much, yup!
lacrimadraconislacrimadraconis on October 1st, 2010 01:21 pm (UTC)
You and your totally coherent reviews are amazing.

I think there might be a possibility that Damon wasn't fooled.
I agree on this, he had more of an "I know what you're up to" look than an "I'm gloating about the fact that my bf and my gf broke up." kind of look.

Damon/Elena kitchen scene.
I missed those so much! My D/E shipper heart jumped at this and the pool scene, even if the latter was fake *sigh*

But the saintly halo placed upon Stefan from every frickin' person on the planet while Damon is kicked over and over again shoved down our throats side by side was just too much.
I didn't feel as strongly about Damon being a loser, I just felt so BAD for him. If this wasn't a TV show, I'd say get his psychopath ass in jail and never let him out again, but OMG Damon ♥ All I want to do in these moments is give him a hug.

I freaking love Mason. He. is. Awesome. Taylor Kinney is fabulous. Go casting department.
IKR?! Mason really has me excited!
Arabian: Damon02arabian on October 1st, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
You and your totally coherent reviews are amazing.

Hee. Thank you muchly. :)

"I think there might be a possibility that Damon wasn't fooled."

I agree on this, he had more of an "I know what you're up to" look than an "I'm gloating about the fact that my bf and my gf broke up." kind of look.


Exactly. We could be wrong, but I can't get over the fact that right after Stefan and Elena supposedly broke up, he essentially told Katherine that he was jealous that Stefan had Elena. Makes no sense. I'd love for Damon to call Stefan and/or Elena on the obvious stupidity of their plan and how Katherine will see right through it.

"Damon/Elena kitchen scene."

I missed those so much! My D/E shipper heart jumped at this and the pool scene, even if the latter was fake *sigh*


Yes, yes, yes. I'm SOOO glad we got that kitchen scene! SQUEE!

I didn't feel as strongly about Damon being a loser, I just felt so BAD for him.

Oh, I didn't feel like he was a loser, but the edit seemed to want viewers to feel that way. Judging from elsewhere on the interwebz, that's what is happening. Stefan is so awesome and Damon is so pathetic this season. *sigh* Too. Much. Show.

"I freaking love Mason. He. is. Awesome. Taylor Kinney is fabulous. Go casting department."

IKR?! Mason really has me excited!


TOTALLY! :D
Dulcedecorumest: SamanthaCarriedulcedeusex on October 1st, 2010 05:45 pm (UTC)
Dude, this post looked so juicy on my f-list so I had to read it. DAMN IT, I'm spoiled for all four episodes of Season 2 now. I have to stop doing this so I can enjoy the ride some more.

My feelings about the contenet of this episode are yo-yoing so I'm gonna leave it at that until I watch it.

You're really good at putting your thoughts down in a nice and ordered fashion. What!? Me? I'm not jealous... okay maybe a little. I just freaking flail all over the joint. Hence a small to non-existent amount of these kind of posts on my LJ or well... anywhere really.

Gotta get back to work! *ducks head*
Arabian: Stefan02arabian on October 1st, 2010 08:21 pm (UTC)
Dude, this post looked so juicy on my f-list so I had to read it. DAMN IT, I'm spoiled for all four episodes of Season 2 now. I have to stop doing this so I can enjoy the ride some more.</i>

Aww, you're not able to watch them yet? I feel for you so much. If you are interested, though, I did similar write-ups (well, the premiere is INSANELY long) on all the other eps this season, as well as a few lengthy posts on the show in general. Just click on 'The Vampire Diaries' lj tag and you'll see all my TVD posts. :)

My feelings about the content of this episode are yo-yoing so I'm gonna leave it at that until I watch it.</i>

Yeah, definitely wait to make up your mind. Although, as I told laniaaa, knowing the good and not-so-good in advance may make the episode better for you.

You're really good at putting your thoughts down in a nice and ordered fashion. What!? Me? I'm not jealous... okay maybe a little. I just freaking flail all over the joint. Hence a small to non-existent amount of these kind of posts on my LJ or well... anywhere really.

It's an odd skill I have, LOL!
obstinate, headstrong girl!: TV » TVD » Katherinezombie_boogie on October 2nd, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
I agree that this wasn't exactly the best episode for Damon. He usually does get the short end of the stick, but the whole Mason deal/werewolf fail sort of made him extra pathetic? But I loved the stuff with Katherine and Stefan. I thought their scenes and "revelations" (which weren't really shocking reveals) added some much-needed depth to Katherine's character. I like the idea that Katherine doesn't just love Stefan for the chase; she loves him for how he makes her feel and what he sees in her. Damon embraced her darkness and made her feel like the vampire she is, while Stefan made her feel like an angel.
Arabian: Stefan & Katherine01arabian on October 4th, 2010 04:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the Katherine/Stefan stuff did confirm what I thought about them, but for me, I was somewhat bummed because I've fallen hard for Stefan and Caroline, LOL!

I also agree that it was the Mason fail on top of everything else that just really hit way too hard for Damon. Hopefully, we don't get that much more of that anytime soon.
Sajen FreybergSajen Freyberg on May 12th, 2017 04:46 pm (UTC)
Stefan and Elena's plan was stupid, but I give Elena a pass here and blame it pretty much squarely on her moronic boyfriends shoulders. While Elena can and does see through Damon's masks she still doesn't really know Damon at this point plus her first meeting with Katherine comes later right? So she hadn't even seen Katherine yet, she had no way of knowing how stupid the plan was she just had to trust her boyfriend to not be a moron. Unfortunately for her Stefan is a moron, easily the biggest one in the history of fiction.
Arabian: Stefan06arabian on May 14th, 2017 04:23 pm (UTC)
I don't think Stefan is a moron. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he's not a moron. I love Stefan. And honestly taking in the history of the show, it's generally Elena who comes up with the worst plans, so if I'm blaming anyone for the badness of the plan, I'm leaning towards Elena. She's got a really bad record for them. The show has even taken digs at her bad plans.