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25 September 2010 @ 12:40 am
2.03 - 'Bad Moon Rising' (The Vampire Diaries)  
I'm away for the weekend (work-related) and so didn't watch the episode until way early Friday morning, and then I watched it again later in the day ... all the while being dog-tired. So yeah, so not my usual Vampire Diaries viewing ritual and thus the delay in getting my thoughts up. But here they be now!

I actually have a few quibbles (not so much with this episode specifically, but in general) and I figured I'd get those out of the way before getting into the usual awesome of OHMYGOD!THEVAMPIREDIARIES!! There was quibblage about these things in the second episode, but because it was only the second episode and was more set-up than anything else, I had no problem letting it slide. One of those issues can still be dealt with, but the other, nope, no can do.

- The biggie is that I'm still finding the werewolf story not very interesting. It's not Taylor Kinney as Mason, the little bit we've seen of him, I do like him, but I'm finding through the course of this story that as likable as he comes across in real life, Michael Trevino (in my eyes) is just not terribly charismatic, and this story seriously needs some major charisma. It ain't happening yet. I do have hope that it will build and improve because, honestly, the vampire aspect took a bit of time to really grow into its own brand of awesome mythology.

- The other thing, sadly, has to do with Damon and Elena. I justified Elena's nicer than I expected behavior towards Damon last week with the possibility that Elena was reining in all of her anger and trying to project a frosty, 'I just don't care' exterior to Damon that would eventually explode in a cathartic release. Instead we got Elena acting all nasty and downright cruel at times, deliberately trying to hurt Damon's feelings. Not that I blame her; he absolutely deserves it. However, it was behavior I expected last week and to see her so much more openly antagonistic this time around just didn't gel. Yes, they barely interacted last week, but still, there was enough where I personally thought there should have been more, well, of what we got this week.

- The whole Jenna thing. She saw Damon and "Elena" kiss on the porch. We've seen her look his way in the few related scenes that seemed to be leading to something, but nothing has come up yet. And Alaric or not, Elena was still going away with Damon as well. There was not one look, one word of warning, anything? Now, this could still be addressed, but having the road trip happen before that is just off.

- Speaking of Jenna, yeah, Jenna and Alaric? They just don't work. It's like Stefan and Elena are mostly boring (for me), but they are still sweet, and have some definite moments of adorableness. Matt and Caroline, also mostly boring (for me), but still sweet with awww! moments. Jenna and Alaric? Pretty much just boring. Sorry, show, but they just do not work for this viewer. And I say this loving Alaric, even outside of the Damon/Alaric bromance, and Ernesto's 'please, lord, get a haircut!' hair.

- Speaking of the Damon/Alaric bromance ... I admit it; I was disappointed. We got no one-on-one interaction between the two and that just sucked. I need more awesome moments of Team Badass being Team Badass, and on each other's side. They'd clearly reached a new level in their relationship in episode 20 of last season, this played like they were practically strangers. That made me sad. :(

- I totally get why Matt walked away from Caroline. Totally. With all of the drama from his mother, his sister, and then drama-filled ending of his relationship with Elena, I totally get it. It still doesn't take away from the fact that I thought Matt was a bit of a dick to Caroline. She almost died, dude. (Well, taking into account simply what he believes happened.) SHE. ALMOST. DIED! Near-death can definitely cause changes in a person and that Matt is not being understanding of that so soon after the incident is pretty darn crappy, if ya ask me. However ... (and, yays! we're getting to the good stuff now) that means I feel less guilty for being happy as a clam that they broke up because, OHMYGOD! how frickin' adorable are Caroline and Stefan??! I mean ... FOR REALS?!

Last week, there was that uber-intense scene in the bathroom that was AWESOME-SAUCE extraordinaire and launched a new ship spectactularly (check out stefan_caroline -- at 200 members and counting!), but I was not expecting the uber-cuteness of this week. From the sing-songy "Caroline" in the scene with Bonnie to just about every moment of their interaction in the episode, I was tickled pink at how utterly awesome they were. And frankly they're getting no competition in the Stefan/Elena department, if you ask me. I mean, the most passionate kiss that Elena and Stefan have shared in like, oh, since he was hopped up on the human blood, was courtesy of one person and one alone and it wasn't Stefan. It was Damon. The kiss that Elena pulled Stefan into outside the car had absolutely nothing to do with Stefan at all ... it was all about Damon. Sure, it was done to piss him off, but it was still all about Damon. She wanted to hurt him, get under his skin.

And, of course, the way she treated him the whole episode was clearly designed to hurt him ... over and over again. And it makes sense, of course. He "killed" her brother. Of course she wants to hurt him; she wants to upset him very much. Which brings us to an interesting reflection. Elena clearly does not realize that his breaking point wasn't because of Katherine; it was because of her, her words to him. That is what sent him over the edge. She doesn't get that she already hurt him to a devastating degree and his attack on Jeremy was his way of lashing out at her. Of course, why would she even remotely not think that's the case when Damon himself blamed his actions on Katherine. It's interesting, the only reason that I even entertained the idea that Damon had indeed seen the ring is because Damon told Elena that he had, and one of the keys of their relationship is that he does not lie to her. He never has. And yet, he lied to her in the car, and then he lied to her again, by nature of likely lying to himself, on the porch, by placing the blame solely on Katherine.

A few other thoughts about their scenes. Is this the first time that we've ever heard Damon truly apologize? I think so, if true that's pretty awesome. Also, I get why Damon lied to her this time, for the first time. When she hated him before, he wasn't in love with her, her being a significant part of his life was not important so doing anything to get her to like him, including lying, didn't matter. Now, however, he's floundering. He messed up. Big-time. And even 'big-time' is a major understatement. He simply doesn't know what to do to fix this and he desperately wants to fix it.

As for Elena, I think there are two interesting points at play -- the first is that (as my bud, sarcasticcheese said) Elena is practically the walking definition of 'the lady doth protest too much.' Damon gets to her; there IS something between them and she's oh so desperately denying it in her strong show of hatred. She wants to hate him, she knows that she absolutely should, and yet you know that she doesn't. The other factor is that she's also being mean to him. Yeah, she's been snarky in the past, and vented, shown her anger, etc., but we've never seen an Elena deliberately choose to be cruel, wound someone. She did that a few times tonight; she also held back on showing pretty much any kind of sympathy, empathy, compassion, concern, etc. Even when the guy took an arrow in the back to save her life, she didn't soften her regard for him. Although that still doesn't take away from how unbelievably cool it was when Damon zoomed in front of her to take that arrow. It was simultaneously awww! and ohmygod! and hot!

What's to come? Who knows, but as a Damon/Elena fan -- even as we're getting all of this angst and not so happy-happy, fun time! -- I am heartened by the fact that this season it clearly is *their* story they are telling. Stefan and Elena are just kind of there, you know, that couple. Meanwhile, we're getting all of these great moments, and this bonding between Damon and Elena, and Stefan and Caroline. To which I say: AWESOME!

Quick randoms ...

- Damn, I wish that Katerina Graham was more likable because Bonnie had some ace moments, but the actress is unlikable and so when Bonnie should be coming across as wicked cool, she just comes across as a bitca and that is sad.

- Ian Somerhalder is hot.

- Again, in that final scene where Nina Dobrev was playing Katherine, it totally played like it was a different actress. She truly is doing a sensational job.

- No Jeremy. I miss Jeremy. Wah!

- Courtney Ford as Vanessa was okay, but I wasn't horribly overwhelmed.

- Cool that Katherine's actual name is Katerina Petrova. I will laugh so hard if they make her of Bulgarian descent.

- Speaking of that ... did anyone else find it cool (and kinda hot) when Damon said "Petrova," and then "Katarina Petrova" he used a bit of an accent? Ooh, baby.

- Also, his delivery on "That bitch is dead" was hilarious. Ian just rocks it with the one-liners. His delivery and comic timing has this delicious zing.

- Anyone else amused by the fact now that Caroline is a vampire, she's breaking out the heavy eye-makeup all the time? Speaking of Caroline, I know I didn't mention her much above (outside of her relationship statuses), but it must be said that she continues to be utterly awesome and I adore her so much. And Candice Accola is kicking major bootay.

I've probably forgotten stuff, but I'm tired, it's late and I wanted to get this out there. Boy, oh boy was my Thursday Vampire Diaries viewing ritual thrown off with this weekend treat, but it shouldn't happen too often, thank goodness! About the show itself, it was pretty dang awesome (and better than last week), and, once more CAN NOT WAIT UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY.
 
 
 
Need, Take, Haveneedtakehave on September 25th, 2010 05:11 am (UTC)
- I totally get why Matt walked away from Caroline. Totally. With all of the drama from his mother, his sister, and then drama-filled ending of his relationship with Elena, I totally get it. It still doesn't take away from the fact that I thought Matt was a bit of a dick to Caroline. She almost died, dude. (Well, taking into account simply what he believes happened.) SHE. ALMOST. DIED! Near-death can definitely cause changes in a person and that Matt is not being understanding of that so soon after the incident is pretty darn crappy, if ya ask me. However ... (and, yays! we're getting to the good stuff now) that means I feel less guilty for being happy as a clam that they broke up because, OHMYGOD! how frickin' adorable are Caroline and Stefan??! I mean ... FOR REALS?!

Totally! This. I think Matt was an asshole. I mean, hello, it doesn't seem to be a big thing she almost dying. She could have PTSD, etc, but he doesn't even think about that. Wtf? Truly, I think he is too immature to be a boyfriend.

And on Elena and Damon? I totally think Damon was wrong to do that to Jeremy (I wished it had been Katherine, lol) but... Elena? She is more like Katherine with every episode. I mean, really, ya know?

Actually, I think it will be fun for Caroline to team up with Katherine.

Honest to God, I didn't like Bonnie much towards the end of the season and this season? Has made me HATE her. I don't think its realistic for just over a few months for her to become so all powerful that she can do everything she does. I am SURE it took YEARS for Grams and Emily to be super powerful. And her hate for vamps? Fucked up. Yes, they are mostly bad but wtf? They actually never really hurt her personally beyond Grams dying and that wasn't REALLY their fault -- it was Gram's choice. Besides, SHE doesn't take responsibility that everyone dying at the season 1 finale was HER fault. SHE was the one that didn't do as she promised to that artifact! But instead she blames Damon. HE didn't do it! Then, Caroline her best friend becomes a vamp, and yes, she killed someone but come ON, you KNEW that was going to happen, she is a new VAMP! But now she writes her off? Just because omg, pooooor little Bonnie, she didn't get the guy cause Caroline killed him. What, a guy she knew for like a day? Grow the hell up. LOL

Okay, sorry to any Bonnie fans, lol, this was just my opinion.
Arabian: Stefan & Caroline01arabian on September 26th, 2010 02:16 am (UTC)
Totally! This. I think Matt was an asshole. I mean, hello, it doesn't seem to be a big thing she almost dying. She could have PTSD, etc, but he doesn't even think about that. Wtf? Truly, I think he is too immature to be a boyfriend.

It really was pretty shitty what he did.

And on Elena and Damon? I totally think Damon was wrong to do that to Jeremy (I wished it had been Katherine, lol) but... Elena? She is more like Katherine with every episode. I mean, really, ya know?

Reading the responses here as well as others on my flist, I'm realizing that in my tiredness I totally forgot to focus on Damon's comment to Elena in their final scene. But, yeah, I do know.

Actually, I think it will be fun for Caroline to team up with Katherine.

Noooooooo! I don't want Caroline to turn evil. I want her and Stefan to have an eternity of being adorable and awesome together.

Honest to God, I didn't like Bonnie much towards the end of the season and this season? Has made me HATE her. I don't think its realistic for just over a few months for her to become so all powerful that she can do everything she does.

It wasn't until the fourth rewatch that I became okay with it, because the early stuff when she didn't even know she could do magic was pretty impressive and I think that was supposed to be the sign of how powerful she is. Still, it obviously wasn't clear enough and, it goes back to the actress is just not likable so when Bonnie does unlikable things, we don't feel for her, we're pissed at her.

Okay, sorry to any Bonnie fans, lol, this was just my opinion.

Based on what I've read, you're really not alone, LOL!
leosgreens: delenaleosgreens on September 25th, 2010 06:47 am (UTC)
I agree with so much of what both of you said, especially about Bonnie. I really really dislike her. I could respect her if she told Elena, "Look, as long as you're hanging out with vampires, I can't be your friend, because I am against them all." But no, she doesn't say that and Elena just lets her get away with it. Sure she's not too upset when Bonnie messes with Damon, but does she think Bonnie won't do the same to Stefan if she feels like it someday? She's a bad friend. Please let Katherine kill her.

Bored by the werewolf stuff too. Why do vampire stories always have to have werewolves too? BOO.

Agree Somerhalder is yum & Dobrev doing a smashing job!
Arabian: Damon & Elena02arabian on September 26th, 2010 02:18 am (UTC)
I agree with so much of what both of you said, especially about Bonnie. I really really dislike her. I could respect her if she told Elena, "Look, as long as you're hanging out with vampires, I can't be your friend, because I am against them all." But no, she doesn't say that and Elena just lets her get away with it. Sure she's not too upset when Bonnie messes with Damon, but does she think Bonnie won't do the same to Stefan if she feels like it someday? She's a bad friend. Please let Katherine kill her.

I don't think they'll kill her as long as she's the only witch on the show. I'm hoping that another one will be introduced that will really take off and give them that opening to kill the character because I don't think she's working.

Bored by the werewolf stuff too. Why do vampire stories always have to have werewolves too? BOO.

Well, it is in the books apparently, and they do base the broad stuff like that on the books, and it's been planned from the beginning. I have faith that once it starts to really take off, it will, though.

Agree Somerhalder is yum & Dobrev doing a smashing job!

Yuppers! :D
obstinate, headstrong girl!: TV » TVD » Damon/Elenazombie_boogie on September 25th, 2010 09:02 am (UTC)
I agree with you about the werewolf thing. I've never found Tyler terribly compelling except in his few scenes with Jeremy. I did like the few hints we got about werewolf mythology (though the vampire vs. werewolf thing is kind of played), but the characters themselves involved in the storyline aren't doing much for me yet. we'll see. I am appreciative of the fact that the werewolves are actual wolves and not bad CGI wolves.

Stefan and Caroline are my new favourite thing. I don't necessarily ship them romantically but I adore their friendship and their scenes together. She brings out more interesting aspects of his personality. I also really love the various aspects of Vamp!Caroline's personality.
Arabian: Damon & Elena03arabian on September 26th, 2010 02:20 am (UTC)
I agree with you about the werewolf thing. I've never found Tyler terribly compelling except in his few scenes with Jeremy. I did like the few hints we got about werewolf mythology (though the vampire vs. werewolf thing is kind of played), but the characters themselves involved in the storyline aren't doing much for me yet. we'll see. I am appreciative of the fact that the werewolves are actual wolves and not bad CGI wolves.

Agreed completely. I do have faith that it will get better once it takes off though.

Stefan and Caroline are my new favourite thing. I don't necessarily ship them romantically but I adore their friendship and their scenes together. She brings out more interesting aspects of his personality. I also really love the various aspects of Vamp!Caroline's personality.

I still adore Damon/Elena above all else, but I'm absolutely digging Stefan/Caroline, and I ship them in a totally romantic way, LOL! They're fantastic together. :D
Teeforeign_origin on September 25th, 2010 10:50 am (UTC)
Anyone else amused by the fact now that Caroline is a vampire, she's breaking out the heavy eye-makeup all the time?
More like annoyed but I guess they're trying to make her look more ~fierce~. I'll get used to it some day, I guess.

And I was really not bothered by Bonnie up until now unlike the rest of the fandom. After this ep just ugh. They seriously need to kill her off because there's no point to her, she just constantly reminds us that vamps are dangeroue which we really KNOW but we just don't want to be remind of every single ep. Especially by her.

I'm also really starting to feel Damon and Elena's story this season, it's clearly not the same as before and it's darker as it should be since it's leading to a different end than before. Can't wait :)
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)02arabian on September 26th, 2010 02:23 am (UTC)
More like annoyed but I guess they're trying to make her look more ~fierce~. I'll get used to it some day, I guess.

It's such a small thing, I ignore it. If I can ignore the OTT eyeliner on Damon and Stefan every episode, I can deal with this, LOL!

And I was really not bothered by Bonnie up until now unlike the rest of the fandom. After this ep just ugh. They seriously need to kill her off because there's no point to her, she just constantly reminds us that vamps are dangeroue which we really KNOW but we just don't want to be remind of every single ep. Especially by her.

It's odd because I actually could see how awesome her lines/scenes were, but again, the actress just is not capable of selling the subtext that would make this stuff work. *sigh*

I'm also really starting to feel Damon and Elena's story this season, it's clearly not the same as before and it's darker as it should be since it's leading to a different end than before. Can't wait :)

I said it in the first post, and every episode since is really bearing it out, this is SO clearly their story now, and I love it ... dark and angsty and all that, and we've already been promised some semblance of a light at the end of the tunnel with Katherine's line about hate being the beginning of a love story. Whee!
sweetiegrrl2346sweetiegrrl2346 on September 25th, 2010 11:04 am (UTC)
I'm still finding the werewolf story not very interesting.

You know, the werewolf storyline took a big leap forward in interesting me this week, actually. Maybe all it took was a naked, covered-in-mud Taylor Kinney, lol. Nah, I actually am already finding Tyler to be a lot more interesting than he was in all of season one, and I'm interested to see how he reacts to the whole Lockwood curse. I'm also finally getting intrigued as to what the hell the curse actually is and why it hasn't activated for Tyler yet. I've heard it's related to something in the books, but seeing as I've never read the books, consider my interest piqued.

Speaking of Jenna, yeah, Jenna and Alaric? They just don't work.

Yeah, second that. When Ric came back and layed one one her at the end, at first I was like "Yay! Get some action, you two!" and then a second later I was like, "Meh." But good on them for getting some while they can. You know the drama will start eventually, so they might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

- Speaking of the Damon/Alaric bromance ... I admit it; I was disappointed.

Team Badass was sorely lacking this week. :( But I did like Damon's dig on Alaric's gaudy jewelry, and Ric's eyeroll at the D/E banter was priceless in my book.

- I totally get why Matt walked away from Caroline. Totally. With all of the drama from his mother, his sister, and then drama-filled ending of his relationship with Elena, I totally get it. It still doesn't take away from the fact that I thought Matt was a bit of a dick to Caroline.

Matt officially made it onto my shitlist last episode. >:( Dude's supposed to have *just* realized he was in love with her, yet all it takes is a little jealous outburst for him to dump her? I understand that his life has been filled to the brim with drama, thus far, but IMO you don't walk out on someone you love that easily. Plus, if one more person on this show defines Caroline by her insecurities next week, I swear I'm gonna have a hissy fit. I think we've seen that she's so much more than a "jealous, insecure, control-freak... on crack" (lol), so I hope the show will stop laying it on so thick cuz I luvs her now, mmmkay? But I LOVE Caroline so much for being strong enough to do what even Stefan couldn't - give up the one she loves to protect him. *That* in and of itself goes so far to showing how strong she truly is.

OHMYGOD! how frickin' adorable are Caroline and Stefan??!

S/C = LOVE!!!

I'm still not quite sure if I romantically ship them yet, but it's quite clear they have uber chemistry together. I think I read somewhere that she is sorta like a new Lexie, and I could totally see that happening. Stefan needs a buddy, lol. And seeing as I don't see him and Matt or Tyler becoming pals anytime soon, I think Caroline would make a good friend. Plus, I wanna see lots more of her teasing him about his dinner options. I'd love to see her and Damon tag-teaming Stef mercilessly. ^_^

Ian Somerhalder is hot.

"Before I respond to that, I'll have to take an extra-strength vitamin duh." LOL. If it was possible, I'd burn the image of that man into my retinas so I'd never have to go without his amazing-ness.

No Jeremy. I miss Jeremy. Wah!

It's funny, but before I read that I didn't even realize he wasn't in the episode. And I like Jer, too. Hmmm... hopefully they'll give him a good plot (preferably with Tyler) so he'll become more indispensible to the A storylines.

did anyone else find it cool (and kinda hot) when Damon said "Petrova," and then "Katarina Petrova" he used a bit of an accent? Ooh, baby.

I literally squee'd after he said "Petrova." Loudly. I gotta bad thing for boys with accents. I also appreciate how Damon's signature "Mmmhmm" made a triumphant return. That little sound sends shivers down my spine. Yum.

sweetiegrrl2346sweetiegrrl2346 on September 25th, 2010 11:04 am (UTC)
Anyone else amused by the fact now that Caroline is a vampire, she's breaking out the heavy eye-makeup all the time?

Gah, I hope they lay off the raccoon eyes in the future. I get that she's supposed to be a creature of the night and all, but Caroline is *so* much prettier with lighter make-up. Plus, it made me laugh because it seemed like her eye make-up would come and go from scene to scene.

I mean, the most passionate kiss that Elena and Stefan have shared in like, oh, since he was hopped up on the human blood, was courtesy of one person and one alone and it wasn't Stefan. It was Damon. The kiss that Elena pulled Stefan into outside the car had absolutely nothing to do with Stefan at all ... it was all about Damon. Sure, it was done to piss him off, but it was still all about Damon. She wanted to hurt him, get under his skin.

You know, this kiss stood out to me in a *big* way. I mentioned it in my own recap post, but for as much crap as a lot of people are giving Damon about his last line to Elena, she was waaaay too Katherine-like this episode for my liking. I totally agree that she has every right to be mad at Damon, but the way she acted this episode seemed *so* out of character for her that it's making me really contemplate what's going on in her head that this side of her is surfacing. Before this episode, I would have never even considered the possibility of Elena using her own boyfriend to make his *brother* jealous. That's a Kat move if ever I'd heard one. So while it might have stung for her to hear it, I'm glad Damon called her out on the fact that similarities between Elena and her doppelganger were starting to show. Maybe it will shock some sense into her. I don't want Elena to be all morally righteous and everything, because that's dull and annoying, but I did like having her as the moral grounding on the show, and her slipping into Katherine territory means double trouble for our Salvatore boys.


Can't wait for next week! I don't know if you're as much of a spoiler whore as I am, but from just the promo and preview clip alone I'm already waaaay too stoked. The good thing is that no matter how high my expectations are going into an episode, TVD rarely lets me down. ^_^
Arabian: Damon & Elena05arabian on September 30th, 2010 11:01 pm (UTC)
You know, this kiss stood out to me in a *big* way. I mentioned it in my own recap post, but for as much crap as a lot of people are giving Damon about his last line to Elena, she was waaaay too Katherine-like this episode for my liking. I totally agree that she has every right to be mad at Damon, but the way she acted this episode seemed *so* out of character for her that it's making me really contemplate what's going on in her head that this side of her is surfacing. Before this episode, I would have never even considered the possibility of Elena using her own boyfriend to make his *brother* jealous. That's a Kat move if ever I'd heard one. So while it might have stung for her to hear it, I'm glad Damon called her out on the fact that similarities between Elena and her doppelganger were starting to show. Maybe it will shock some sense into her. I don't want Elena to be all morally righteous and everything, because that's dull and annoying, but I did like having her as the moral grounding on the show, and her slipping into Katherine territory means double trouble for our Salvatore boys.

Is is very fascinating how they are playing this. She's really being pushed to her edge here and her less-than-pure qualities are definitely coming to the forefront. Hopefully Damon's words -- which clearly struck a chord based on her watching him leave -- and meeting Katherine this episode will shake her up and make her realize that *her* power is her goodness. It really is; it's what turned Damon, and has kept people on her side despite all of the crazy.

Can't wait for next week! I don't know if you're as much of a spoiler whore as I am, but from just the promo and preview clip alone I'm already waaaay too stoked. The good thing is that no matter how high my expectations are going into an episode, TVD rarely lets me down. ^_^

I'm actually trying to not be a spoiler whore with this show (which I've never done before -- see this post -- seriously, I'm not a spoiler whore, I'm a spoiler madam normally).
Arabian: Damon & Elena03arabian on September 30th, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Trying to get to these responses before tonight's episode. EEK! So sorry!

I don't think the werewolf story is boring (and I really did like the dialogue over the Tyler/Mason scenes in the intro), it just hasn't grabbed me.

Yeah, second that. When Ric came back and layed one one her at the end, at first I was like "Yay! Get some action, you two!" and then a second later I was like, "Meh."

Exactly.

Matt officially made it onto my shitlist last episode. >:( Dude's supposed to have *just* realized he was in love with her, yet all it takes is a little jealous outburst for him to dump her?

Yes, this!

Actually to most of your post, I can pretty much just say: YES, THIS!
Jude: ian/ninadanceonstardust on September 26th, 2010 03:24 am (UTC)
HDU say that about the wolf story. It's just the 3rd episode!! GAH. It's way better then True Blood IMO.

Instead we got Elena acting all nasty and downright cruel at times, deliberately trying to hurt Damon's feelings. Not that I blame her; he absolutely deserves it. However, it was behavior I expected last week and to see her so much more openly antagonistic this time around just didn't gel. Yes, they barely interacted last week, but still, there was enough where I personally thought there should have been more, well, of what we got this week.
THIS. I thought WTF. I was miffed at Elena. I'm sorry, I thought she totally deserved that Katherine and her "are more alike" line.

Damn, I wish that Katerina Graham was more likable because Bonnie had some ace moments, but the actress is unlikable and so when Bonnie should be coming across as wicked cool, she just comes across as a bitca and that is sad.
She makes me hate Bonnie. My friend who still thinks her and Damon should be together still thought she was awesome. But I can't stand the way the actress portrays her. She just sucks at being awesome.

Ian Somerhalder is hot.
LOL Of course.

Cool that Katherine's actual name is Katerina Petrova. I will laugh so hard if they make her of Bulgarian descent.
MIND TWINS.

Anyone else amused by the fact now that Caroline is a vampire, she's breaking out the heavy eye-makeup all the time? Speaking of Caroline, I know I didn't mention her much above (outside of her relationship statuses), but it must be said that she continues to be utterly awesome and I adore her so much. And Candice Accola is kicking major bootay.
LOL Caroline, Vampires are not emo. I wonder if next time she puts on sparkling makeup. XD She is just awesome. \O/ Yes I joined that community because both S/C are just adorbs.
Arabian: Damon & Elena(PR)02arabian on September 30th, 2010 11:05 pm (UTC)
Eek! Trying to answer before the new episode tonight.

HDU say that about the wolf story. It's just the 3rd episode!! GAH. It's way better then True Blood IMO.

I'm not saying I'm bored by it, I'm just not grabbed by it. And it's not *just* the 3rd episode, that's the problem. They've been teasing this aspect of Tyler since early season one. I think that's why it seems longer than three episodes. Of course it's better than True Blood. Pretty much everything TVD does that TB does, TVD does better. ;)

THIS. I thought WTF. I was miffed at Elena. I'm sorry, I thought she totally deserved that Katherine and her "are more alike" line.

She did; I was saying above that I wonder if that was key + coming face to face with Katherine to get Elena to realize that she needs to watch her moral path ; Damon is not the only one who is being affected by Katherine's presence. It definitely will be interesting to find out what's going to happen. I mean,
She makes me hate Bonnie. My friend who still thinks her and Damon should be together still thought she was awesome. But I can't stand the way the actress portrays her. She just sucks at being awesome.

Actually, I think she's great at being awesome. Fun, bubbly, likable Bonnie was fabulous, and Graham did a fabulous job playing that Bonnie. It's whenever Bonnie is darker, unlikable, etc. that Graham is unable to bring it. She just plays it too smug and bitchy. Ugh.

Cool that Katherine's actual name is Katerina Petrova. I will laugh so hard if they make her of Bulgarian descent.

MIND TWINS.

Of course. ;)

Yes I joined that community because both S/C are just adorbs.

OMG! They so are! I love how active the comm is too. :D
lacrimadraconis: TVD Damon seriouslacrimadraconis on September 26th, 2010 10:21 am (UTC)
Speaking of the Damon/Alaric bromance ...
I think they did that because Alaric was supposed to be a buffer between Damon and Elena in this episode. He wasn't all buddy buddy with Damon while Elena was there. But the fact that he still hangs out with the guy, even though Damon snapped Jeremy's neck- I think it's pretty telling. I'm sure there'll be more of their bromance soon.

OHMYGOD! how frickin' adorable are Caroline and Stefan??! I mean ... FOR REALS?!
These two are the sweetest most adorable thing I've seen for quite a while!

Is this the first time that we've ever heard Damon truly apologize?
Absolutely! He did apologize to Stefan after he killed Lexi (and handed him coffee as a peace offering *g*), but this serious and genuine? That was a first.

I also kinda agree on Bonnie/Kat Graham.
I don't really like Kat. I don't know why, it's nothing she said or did, but I just don't like her. Which is a shame because I adore all the other cast.
I loved Bonnie in the beginning and I still like her, but it starts to get annoying. She also is some sort of supernatural being and she should start to realize that.
Arabian: Stefan & Caroline01arabian on September 30th, 2010 11:08 pm (UTC)

"Speaking of the Damon/Alaric bromance ..."

I think they did that because Alaric was supposed to be a buffer between Damon and Elena in this episode. He wasn't all buddy buddy with Damon while Elena was there. But the fact that he still hangs out with the guy, even though Damon snapped Jeremy's neck- I think it's pretty telling. I'm sure there'll be more of their bromance soon.


I hope so. I just was so miffed that we didn't have Alaric for 2 eps, he finally comes back and he spends almost every one of his scenes with Damon and yet, there's no bromance. It made me sad. :(

"OHMYGOD! how frickin' adorable are Caroline and Stefan??! I mean ... FOR REALS?!"

These two are the sweetest most adorable thing I've seen for quite a while!


They so are. Stefan's "Caroliiine" when she was being snappish with Bonnie nearly killed me dead with squee. I LOVE THEM!

"Is this the first time that we've ever heard Damon truly apologize?"

Absolutely! He did apologize to Stefan after he killed Lexi (and handed him coffee as a peace offering *g*), but this serious and genuine? That was a first.


Yeah, that apology was pretty lame-ass, LOL! This one was so real. Oh, Damon!

I don't really like Kat. I don't know why, it's nothing she said or did, but I just don't like her. Which is a shame because I adore all the other cast.
I loved Bonnie in the beginning and I still like her, but it starts to get annoying. She also is some sort of supernatural being and she should start to realize that.


I really think it's that Graham is simply unlikable as a performer, so when she's not being bubbly, bright and awesome, we can't or don't to forgive her when she does unlikable things. She just plays it bitchy and smug and that is NOT endearing. *sigh* It sucks because she is a strong actress. Ah well.
Diana: Mirror -- Deb Morganbutterfly on December 30th, 2010 07:50 pm (UTC)
As for Elena, I think there are two interesting points at play -- the first is that (as my bud, [info]sarcasticcheese said) Elena is practically the walking definition of 'the lady doth protest too much.' Damon gets to her; there IS something between them and she's oh so desperately denying it in her strong show of hatred. She wants to hate him, she knows that she absolutely should, and yet you know that she doesn't. The other factor is that she's also being mean to him. Yeah, she's been snarky in the past, and vented, shown her anger, etc., but we've never seen an Elena deliberately choose to be cruel, wound someone. She did that a few times tonight; she also held back on showing pretty much any kind of sympathy, empathy, compassion, concern, etc. Even when the guy took an arrow in the back to save her life, she didn't soften her regard for him. Although that still doesn't take away from how unbelievably cool it was when Damon zoomed in front of her to take that arrow. It was simultaneously awww! and ohmygod! and hot!

Yeah, I didn't feel like Elena hated him. She wants to hate him. And she's incredibly pissed off at him. But that's different.
Arabian: Elena03arabian on December 30th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
Exactly. I really hope that is addressed at some point, either Elena to him or to Jeremy or Bonnie, where she just lets it out that she knows that she should hate him, but she can't.
Sajen FreybergSajen Freyberg on May 12th, 2017 04:19 pm (UTC)
I've always thought episodes 2 and 3 were out of order, not just because of the reactions, but story wise it makes more since for Damon, Alaric and Elena's road trip to come before the Caroline's a vampire episode.
Arabian: Damon&Alaric03arabian on May 14th, 2017 04:21 pm (UTC)
They're not. Because other things happen that wouldn't make sense if they were out of order. Caroline was turned at the end of episode 1. The follow-through to that had to be the next episode.