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02 July 2010 @ 06:00 pm
'Doctor Who' Series Five, Episodes 11-13  
Alright, in the homestretch now, and erm, Moffat fans, you won't like much of this post. I'm really continuing to not love his work. Other than "The Eleventh Hour" -- which was passable, and great moments (with one particular long stretch in "The Big Bang") in his others, the only episodes that I like are those that aren't written by him, and don't feel like him. The ones that are, or do ... kinda suck in my opinion. But, I love Matt Smith so, I enjoy Amy, Rory is adorable and I can deal with River in doses -- even if the "relationship" with the Doctor as set up really makes no flippin' sense whatsoever. :shrugs: Anyhoo, as I said ... the homestretch.

"The Lodger" -- Erm, Matt Smith was delectably awesome. And, uhm, I love Eleven. And ... did I mention that Matt Smith was awesome? Yeah, that pretty much sums up all that was good about this episode. It was pretty lame. Smith was great, how he played the Doctor was great, the little gags about the Doctor trying to be human were great, but ... it felt like the writer, Gareth Roberts, came up with that great idea (the Doctor pretends to be human), and then wrote a story around it. The plot was very clearly an afterthought. And, a quibble. Why didn't the Doctor just use the name John Smith? Oh, one other good thing! It was lovely seeing the quick glimpse of Nine, Ten and Rose (!!) :)

"The Pandorica Opens" -- It's just annoying how Moffat makes River such a freakin' Mary Sue. And now she's written the first words of all time? *sigh* And River as Cleopatra? Seriously, Moffat? Really?! Just stop. I did like seeing a bunch of the people we met this series (VINCENT!) though. Alright, let me finish watching it ... and done. So, that was pretty much lots of boring suck surrounded by some cool moments. Yeah, no, didn't work for me. The slow music over the final moments before the Doctor spoke was just, I dunno, ordinary. What you'd see on pretty much every dramatic show trying to get your heartstrings going.

And, oh, yeah, remember that whole predictability comment about episodes 2-5? Well, most of that came from the Moffat episodes, and yeah, pretty much happened here again. I knew the Roman was Rory; I knew that it was the Doctor who was the ultimate in the Pandorica, and I knew that the TARDIS blowing up is what caused the cracks in time. All well before the reveals. Heck, maybe most watching it figured all that out too, which shows the episode was ... predictable. And also, gah, Moffat just does not know how to write emotion/characterization/heart for me. And, my God!, he makes River THE most annoying character. The only thing redeemable about her is the awesome actress who portrays her. But overall I am so tired of Moffat making her so capable, so awesome, so able to do anything and everything. Oh, except stop the TARDIS from blowing up. Because where would his big cliffhanger be otherwise? Meh. Whatever, onto part two.

"The Big Bang" -- I was mostly meh throughout this, and there were a few things that made me go huh?, but from the actual wedding on, I really did begin to enjoy it. So I ended the series with a smile on my face. I love that the Doctor will be traveling with Amy and Rory (although, what's up with Amy going on about snogging the Doctor?!) and I hope that means that Arthur Darvill will be a regular next season. The three actors together are fabulous. :)

As for the whole River/Doctor thing, well, it still is annoying. Seriously, if she *is* just his wife at this point, talk about uber-lame. I want her to be more, be something truly special because I do want to like her because I love Alex Kingston so, and all the build-up leading up to her just being his wife (after all, he has married before, and he has truly loved before) would be a major letdown, writing-wise. Of course, even if she is his wife, I'm sticking to my guns that anything with the Doctor and River, I will not let bother me because after her two-part introduction and what followed, River and all the Doctor does with her is a direct result of the Doctor saving Donna, and the universe and thus Rose. So he has to do all of whatever with River to get to their ending (in "Forest of the Dead") if he wants Rose to live. Yuppers. Call me a die-hard Doctor/Rose fan, I don't care, it's the only way that River can ever be palatable to me.

So overall thoughts of the series. I adore Matt Smith. I adore Eleven. I love Rory. I like Amy. I like Rory/Amy. I think that Matt Smith and Karen Gillian have insane chemistry. I want to like River. I much preferred the later non-Moffat episodes. And I still had a huge issue with Amy (and Rory to a degree) having no sense of wonder and joy over traveling with the Doctor. As I said in this post, a few lines here and there were telling, not showing. I always got that sense of wondrous joy from Rose, Martha and Donna. I really missed that in this series.

So, yeah, needless to say, I'm still not a fan of Moffat, but clearly controlling the whole stream of the show helped to mitigate some of my overall issues with him, and unlike how his eps during RTD's reign created gaping episodes of continuity fail, there were none in this series. Of course, Moffat didn't have to deal with a disrespectful writer whose words he couldn't touch and who chose to ignore everything going on around him as RTD did. I will continue watching -- if only for Matt Smith/Eleven alone, but I do like more than him. It's not RTD's Who. I don't love it as a whole, it's not as good or as emotionally engaging, but it's enjoyable. And, as always ...


I LOVE MATT SMITH!

 
 
 
Kelly: Amanda Heckerlinglavendergaia on July 2nd, 2010 10:13 pm (UTC)
And I still had a huge issue with Amy (and Rory to a degree) having no sense of wonder and joy over traveling with the Doctor.

I'm a little confused. Is your issue that you miss that aspect or is it an issue you have with their characterization?
Arabian: Nina Dobrev & Candice Accolaarabian on July 2nd, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC)
I miss that aspect of the writing. It's not their characterization. Rose, Martha and Donna were all different (heck, include how Sarah Jane was written in the new Who), but they all had this sense of wonder. Based on his interviews, I feel that came from RTD -- that giddy joy. I'm just not getting that from the people traveling with Eleven. Not Amy, or Rory, or even River. I miss that.
Larissa: Chuck_FAILlarissa_j on July 2nd, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
*snort*

I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't laugh but I can't help it. Right now I'm really glad I steered clear of S5 (or is it S1? I don't even know that's how out of the loop I am).

Why did you do this to yourself? Surely PBS had some documentary on the life cycle of the weevil you could watch over a season of Moffat?
Arabian: Dr Who (Eleven)arabian on July 2nd, 2010 10:29 pm (UTC)
I know you haven't read them all, but I'm SO GLAD that I did watch them. Matt Smith is amazing, but more than that, the tenth episode ("Vincent and the Doctor") is amazingly brilliant. One of THE finest hours of television EVER! (Not written by Moffat, and very un-Moffat-y. In fact, it would have fit perfectly in the RTD-era.) I'd recommend watching that one episode. It's amazing.

And as I said, there were good episodes that weren't Moffat-written. Plus, Matt Smith = love!
Larissa: Beyonce_Telephone_handovermouthlarissa_j on July 2nd, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I didn't read the others and it's good that you enjoyed a couple of the episodes. Sadly, I know myself well enough to know that I can't get over my dislike for Moffat to be objective about anything relating to S5 even if the non-Moffat episodes are positively brilliant. It's one of the reasons I decided not to watch in the first place. I didn't want to be like the ant-RTD people who watched even though they knew they'd hate every little thing about every episode.
Arabian: Kelly_Stararabian on July 2nd, 2010 11:04 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see. I understand, I wish I could change your mind on "Vincent and the Doctor" because it has absolutely not one single hallmark of Moffat. It's so RTD, it's not even funny. Written by Richard Curtis who wrote Love Actually. But I get it.

I chose to watch because people who know me and my fandom ways told me what I would possibly like, and they were right. I also knew that if Moffat did anything worthwhile, I'd acknowledge it -- like being in charge of the whole thing certainly helped with mitigating much of his horrible writing issues. I try to be fair, and I knew I could be. Good for you for doing that, though, because I've never understood watching/reading something JUST to snark at it. Makes no sense to me.
Susan Athertonsuzloua on July 9th, 2010 12:18 am (UTC)
Argh, don't even get me started on the s5/s1 thing. Moffat said "Series One is exciting, Series Thirty-One is awe-inspiring and Series Five is boring and a lie."

Shut up, Moffat.

It makes me really sad that I love Coupling and Jekyll so much, and loved his s1 and s3 episodes so much on first viewing. Now he just makes me sigh.

Great reviews, arabian. I love hearing your thoughts on Who, because they saw what I want to say and a whole bunch of other stuff I hadn't even thought of but when I read it, go "YES! Oh my god!"
Arabian: TARDISarabian on August 10th, 2010 08:16 pm (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't see this response until now. I never watched Coupling, and while there were things I really liked about Jekyll something didn't work for me as I stopped watching it, but ...

oved his s1 and s3 episodes so much on first viewing.

Me too. I LOVED his episodes on first viewing so much, and now? I just think wth was I thinking? Ugh.

they say what I want to say and a whole bunch of other stuff I hadn't even thought of but when I read it, go "YES! Oh my god!"

Happy to do so. :)
Diana: Open Door -- the TARDISbutterfly on July 2nd, 2010 10:25 pm (UTC)
I think, after reading your reviews, that I will go ahead and download the Vincent episode to watch. And I think there was one other episode that you found particularly compelling - "Amy's Choice"? I find that the names of the episodes don't stick well in my head (likely because I haven't seen them). Part of the reason that I think I want to do that is because Paul Cornell might write an episode next season (it was rumoured) and I adore his writing enough that I will probably watch it no matter what.

I've found your reviews thoroughly enjoyable to read!

Edited at 2010-07-02 10:27 pm (UTC)
Arabian: TARDISarabian on July 2nd, 2010 10:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, "Amy's Choice" and YES!! to "Vincent and the Doctor!" YES!! A gazillion times. Just be warned, you may fall head over heels for Matt Smith.

I've found your reviews thoroughly enjoyable to read!

Thank you. I'm glad. :)

Edited at 2010-07-02 10:30 pm (UTC)
Diana: Back Again -- Doctor/Rosebutterfly on July 2nd, 2010 10:31 pm (UTC)
I consider myself warned!
Arabian: Dr Who (Rose/10/9)arabian on July 2nd, 2010 10:31 pm (UTC)
He's just ... oh, lord, no words, but I love him to bits and bits and bits!!!!
The Plucky Young Girl: Rose (default)pluckyyounggirl on July 4th, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
If you do end up watching Amy's Choice, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

No offence to you, arabian, different tastes and all, but I thought that episode was the single most offensive and angry-making thing of this series and it baffles me that you loved it so, since I usually agree with quite some of your thoughts. :-)
Arabian: Rose_Thinkingarabian on July 5th, 2010 03:43 am (UTC)
I really liked it because I think it was the first time all series long that I felt real genuine emotion and liked more than Matt Smith/Eleven. A rewatch may change my mind -- because I've discussed another friend's issues with it that I hadn't thought of -- I dunno.
Diana: Human Forever - Doctor/Rosebutterfly on July 5th, 2010 06:30 am (UTC)
If I get around to watching it, I promise I will post about it in my LJ!
Jude: David and Matt: 10th and 11th Doctorsdanceonstardust on July 2nd, 2010 11:55 pm (UTC)
First, The Lodger was adorable but I agree, it was more of a filler. I couldn't be saved from rewinding... um certain parts. Damn it.

FREAKING F-YES IA to the two-parter. I thought I was the only one annoyed by those episodes and yes the marriage was cute. I couldn't stand Amy's flower hairband in the wedding, that ruined it for me. THE DOCTOR'S SUIT!!! I LOVED THE DOCTOR'S SUIT. I'M HUGE FAN OF THAT SUIT. AND THAT DANCE. XD

So I ended the series with a smile on my face. I love that the Doctor will be traveling with Amy and Rory (although, what's up with Amy going on about snogging the Doctor?!)
CUTE. First married couple ever! I ship them both. Rory/Amy for the adorable. Doctor/Amy for the Chemistry.

As for the snogging, I read a few things that people saying that it wasn't perceived as romantic... it's just the fact that she misses the doctor? I would have been happy with a freaking hug. A HUG WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD AMY?! I think Moffat got sick of the hugging in RTD's reign. I LOVE HUGS THOU.

As for your idea in Amy kissing the Doctor in "Flesh and Stone" btw, I read that the reason why people fall in love with the Doctor is because the adrenaline rush and excitement. Amy said it was for comforting and the doctor basically says "What comforting?" because it was future!him not then!him which leads back to the Big Bang... Which ends up giving me a really big headache and freaking Steven Moffat making me want to punch him in the face.

As for the whole River/Doctor thing, well, it still is annoying. Seriously, if she *is* just his wife at this point, talk about uber-lame. I want her to be more, be something truly special because I do want to like her because I love Alex Kingston so, and all the build-up leading up to her just being his wife (after all, he has married before, and he has truly loved before) would be a major letdown, writing-wise.
THIS SFM.

I will continue watching -- if only for Matt Smith/Eleven alone, but I do like more than him. It's not RTD's Who.
Matt Smith is pretty much the guy I watch this show for. AND I just watch the revealing 11th Doctor confidential. I can say this much, RTD was freakin' JEALOUS. He wanted Matt! WHY RTD DID YOU LEAVE? WHY!?
Arabian: Dr Who (Eleven)arabian on July 3rd, 2010 02:07 am (UTC)
Yes, "The Lodger" was filler. That describes it perfectly.

Re: Amy kissing the Doctor, oh I get why she did it. The Doctor explained that well enough in the following episode. My issue was that I shouldn't have had the Doctor (or anyone else) have to explain it, and certainly not a week later.

Yes, "The Lodger" was filler. That describes it perfectly.

Re: Amy kissing the Doctor, oh I get why she did it. The Doctor explained that well enough in the following episode. My issue was that I shouldn't have had the Doctor (or anyone else) have to explain it, and certainly not a week later.

I can say this much, RTD was freakin' JEALOUS. He wanted Matt! WHY RTD DID YOU LEAVE? WHY!?

SOBS UNCONTROLLABLY!!!


Edited at 2010-07-06 04:14 am (UTC)
Jude: Elevendanceonstardust on July 6th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC)
I'm on the phone with you!!! XD

Re: Amy kissing the Doctor, oh I get why she did it. The Doctor explained that well enough in the following episode. My issue was that I shouldn't have had the Doctor (or anyone else) have to explain it, and certainly not a week later.

Cliffhangers suck and seriously wtf!Moffat!

SOBS UNCONTROLLABLY!!!
:'(
Taylah: doctorx_rose_tyler_x on July 3rd, 2010 01:26 am (UTC)
I know you are going to disagree with this, but since reviews and discussions are made for that, I think I can openly express my opinion without trouble. I know you just don't like Moffat's writing, but I don't know if you have been watching the confidentials. Indeed, he threw hints here and there at what happened at the end since the beginning so the audience felt "clever" when they knew they were right. So things like that the TARDIS exploding caused the cracks and that the Doctor would be in the Pandorica (which by the way, is not entirely true, because the Pandorica was created to hold the Doctor BUT the one who ultimately was inside was Amy) were supposed to be "guessed" or "understood" as the season went on. Still, there were fantastic things like jacket!Doctor and the many rooms in her house and her parents just "being gone" which were NOT so clear and that ones we had fun speculating about, and I just loved how he put those together.

I also love the fact that this season felt more emotionally driven than the others. I know you say Moffat does not know how to handle emotion but I actually think he did perfectly. The whole series has been about emotion, about pure, honest, innocent heartfelt love. Amy's love for Rory brought him back in Amy's Choice and brought him back in the end (I think it was clear that we all knew the Roman was Rory though, lol), Rory's love kept him waiting for 2000 years for the woman he loved, The Doctor's love for both made him sacrifice himself just so things were right and she could live the life she was supposed to live. And Amy's love for the Doctor is what ultimately brings him back, too.

I think emotion was pretty much covered.

I also like that we don't know what caused the silence and brought the TARDIS to that point to make it explode. There's a reason why that point in time was chosen and there's someone who indeed drove the TARDIS there who at this point could be basically anyone, so it's great that Moffat left that open. The only thing like that I've seen RTD doing is the ring at the end of Last of the Time Lords and of course, the typical series "prophecies", but that's totally normal and Moffat has done it too. I like that things remain unknown, it gives me a sense that he has the show planned ahead and now that he tries to write bigger things to please anyone *cough*Rose'sReturn*cough* or to outwrite himself *cough*Journey'sEnd*cough*. It's nice to have that feeling of security with a writer. As much as I liked some of RTD's episodes (I've always told you, I'm not completely against Russell, in fact, he has written some of the finest episodes of TV I've ever watched and brought back the show, which I can't thank him enough for), I didn't have that feeling of saying "hey, he knows where he wants to go with the show".

Anyway, since we'll never agree on the Moffat vs. RTD field (we I think, we should just leave aside, because it'll never stop being a matter of personal preference) , I'm moving on to River Song... I kind of agree there. But I am not sure about her intentions anymore and she does come up as a bit of a Mary Sue, there. But then again, I think we women think every strong woman with a kickass attitude is a Mary Sue (OKAY NO, LIES, I LOVED LADY CHRISTINA DE SOUZA AND SHE WAS A BADASS SO IT'S JUST THAT RIVER SONG IS ANNOYING, lol). I think we were meant to hate her, then start to like her and then she'll make something terrible and just screw up and make us hate her. She'll probably kill the Doctor, that's for sure, but the point is why and when and why is she leading to that point in time if she's not happy about what she did. I don't like her, but I'm curious, so I'm not that bothered that she's there. I would love to slap that face anytime she says "Oooh, spoilers!", though.
Taylah: doctorx_rose_tyler_x on July 3rd, 2010 01:27 am (UTC)
Another thing we agree on... Matt Smith and Karen Gillan's chemistry is excellent, and it's probably also what has made the series go when there were mistakes in the writing (which, of course, there have been, but that's something that happened on the RTD era as well - regardless of how much I liked/disliked it). I just love their relationship, whether you see it as a friendship or a love relationship they just click and I love how she adores him and I love how he protects her and it's just beautiful. And Eleven/Rory/Amy... I'm sure they're going to be amazing. I hope Arthur joins the cast as a regular, because I LOVE when there are three people in the TARDIS. This time, better with three :)

By the way, about the joy... I think it's been the fact that there's been no much "outerspace" episodes this series. Though we certainly saw joy in Amy's eyes in Vincent and the Doctor, she was also happy in The Beast Below, but most of this series' episodes remained in Earth, and well, while it *is* joyous, it is not as joyous as traveling to other planets. I think they should "go out" more next series, as much as I love the episodes settled in the past/future, this series felt too Earth-centered, lol.

OH MY GOD, I NEEDED TWO COMMENTS. TWO. LOOK HOW META YOU MAKE ME GET. GODDAMN, JENN.




I love you!
Arabian: Dr Who (Eleven)arabian on July 3rd, 2010 02:02 am (UTC)
Matt Smith and Karen Gillan's chemistry is excellent, and it's probably also what has made the series go when there were mistakes in the writing (which, of course, there have been, but that's something that happened on the RTD era as well - regardless of how much I liked/disliked it).

Agreed, completely. "Fear Her" was a very weak episode, and it was David and Billie's fluffy chemistry that made it work. Same with moments/scenes in this series. Matt and Karen's chemistry made it work.

I just love their relationship, whether you see it as a friendship or a love relationship they just click and I love how she adores him and I love how he protects her and it's just beautiful. And Eleven/Rory/Amy... I'm sure they're going to be amazing. I hope Arthur joins the cast as a regular, because I LOVE when there are three people in the TARDIS. This time, better with three :)

This.

I guess I can see your point about the joy being planet-bound related, but I can blame Moffat for that then, can't I? ;)

LOOK HOW META YOU MAKE ME GET. GODDAMN, JENN.

Hee!
Arabian: Dr Who (Painting)arabian on July 3rd, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
Yeah, we really just disagree because I felt loads of emotion building up through RTD's series' and not much here. I just, I don't know if it's my bias now, but something about how he writes just rubs me wrong. I wasn't even sure that he was writing ep 12 (wasn't sure where I was), and I rolled my eyes at a few things, thinking "oh, Moffat!" and then realized, I could be wrong, maybe it wasn't Moffat, maybe it was just my bias, but then, no it was a Moffat episode.

Whatever reason you have issues with RTD and I don't, and vice versa with regards to Moffat is what makes up how we feel about their eras, I suppose. We just disagree.

As for River -- ack! I hated Lady Christina with a passion, she's my least favorite RTD-created character ever, sorry :( -- we do agree. There simply has GOT to be more with her. There has to be.

I would love to slap that face anytime she says "Oooh, spoilers!", though.

Yes. That's the one thing that she does that still makes me want to slap her. Ugh.

ETA: No, I haven't watched any of the Confidentials. I barely watched them when I was obsessed with the show, and even though I adore RTD. Just not my thing. So I have absolutely zero interest in watching them with Moffat. Every little bit I've seen/read with him makes me like him less, and frankly, I don't want him to destroying what I do love about this series. The fact that I'm able to enjoy as much of the show as I do despite Moffat's involvement is pretty huge; I can't bend any farther with regards to that man.

Edited at 2010-07-03 02:06 am (UTC)
Taylah: britta - wtfx_rose_tyler_x on July 3rd, 2010 02:17 am (UTC)
I would love to put a foot on Moffat's mouth sometimes. He's terrible. As much as I might like his writing, I just think he needs not to talk. EVER.
Arabian: Troy&Britta01arabian on July 3rd, 2010 02:22 am (UTC)
LOL! Ah, so you've definitely heard his interviews. Hah! Britta's look says it all!
Taylah: Troy/Brittax_rose_tyler_x on July 3rd, 2010 02:25 am (UTC)
Yes. He says the most terrible, sexist, stupid things ever.

LOL yes! Britta's facial expressions are the greatest.
Using Troy/Britta icon in response to you (WHY ARE THEY SO PRETTY?)
Arabian: Jeff & Annie05arabian on July 3rd, 2010 02:55 am (UTC)
Because they are! Because they just so very are!!!!

As are ...
Taylah: annie - smilex_rose_tyler_x on July 3rd, 2010 02:29 am (UTC)
Oh btw, this year's confidentials are AMAZING. I don't tend to ship real people, but Matt and Karen...oh my God, they'll realize they're perfect for each other and get married. THEY NEED TO.
Arabian: Annie02arabian on July 3rd, 2010 02:55 am (UTC)
LOL! I've definitely heard of the Matt/Karen shippers.
I deny your reality, and write my ownspaceanjl on July 3rd, 2010 11:40 am (UTC)
Now I like this stuff better than that crystal-jesus 'clap if you believe in doctors' emo-rubbish that RTD led us into. It's fun again. :) Don't get me wrong, i adored Ten, but really, I was so damn sick of the messianic metabollox by the end. And yeah, feel free to chuck things at me, but I think St Rose of Tyler, however fabulous she was, has caused everyone else to get the shitty end of the stick ever after.

My predictions - 'Silence in the Library', "silence will fall".... I think 'Silence' is River Song, and I think she's an assassin/Big Bad. She made a dalek beg for mercy. The only other person they are remotely freaked by is the Doctor. So I'm going for scary bad-ass. It's obvious that SM is taking the piss out of 'The Time Traveller's Wife' and 'Benjamin Button', which I am all in favour of.

Rory is wonderful. And if they do a Xander on him, I will love it, too. 2000 years of memory popping up at odd moments would counteract nicely with the 'tin-dog' male companions we've had before.





Arabian: I ♥ RTDarabian on July 3rd, 2010 04:28 pm (UTC)
Ah, see I will happily take RTD's brand of crack as long as it comes with his amazing characterization and heart. I adore him. He's my favorite showrunner EVER! And I don't agree about Rose. I think that Martha had an amazing arc that ended with her such a more mature, stronger person. The problem is that Freema, while a lovely actress, just wasn't skilled enough to pull off that arc. Donna is THE most amazing companion ever, and as much as I love Rose, totally kicks her arse in the companion department.

My predictions - 'Silence in the Library', "silence will fall".... I think 'Silence' is River Song, and I think she's an assassin/Big Bad. She made a dalek beg for mercy. The only other person they are remotely freaked by is the Doctor. So I'm going for scary bad-ass.

I hope so.

It's obvious that SM is taking the piss out of 'The Time Traveller's Wife

Except, he's not. He did the same story in TGitF and has spoken of his great love for that timey-wimey love story style of telling.
I deny your reality, and write my ownspaceanjl on July 3rd, 2010 04:46 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean about the characterization, but I can't forgive RTD for doing that to Donna. And I do have a lot of issues with the way other things were tied up in the RTD era.

I liked Rose, but I do think the 'ending up on the other side of the alt-verse' should have been final. DW is not a soap, and it shouldn't be dragged into that form of narrative.

TGitF was execrable in certain ways. Reinette needed a smack. As did the Doctor, frankly, abandoning Rose and Mickey without a second thought. But the original 'Blink' was outstanding. SM writes good monster.

But - heart? Rory. Big time. I really hope they use him effectively next season - the energy with a triad could work very well, because I didn't get the 'shippy vibe off Amy/11, whereas this ensemble bounce lines beautifully.



Arabian: I ♥ RTDarabian on July 3rd, 2010 05:18 pm (UTC)
I'm in the minority, but I LOVED how the Donna situation was handled. I've written in length about it elsewhere, so I won't go into it here. I loved Rose's ending too. Due to the fact that the actresses chose to leave, considering how their feelings for the Doctor and the traveling had been written, other than killing both characters off, he did the best he could IMO. And I love him for it.

Rory has heart, but I'm talking about the whole feel. Blink was outstanding, but that's one good monster, that I feel he subsequently screwed up in the two-parter this season.

Trust me when I say I will NEVER change my opinion about RTD and Moffat. Think of your thoughts on Lorre/Leonard combined, that's me about Moffat. I can not stand him. And I adore RTD. Bar none. Period.
I deny your reality, and write my ownspaceanjl on July 3rd, 2010 05:29 pm (UTC)
EEk!! Fair enough, considering my rabid slaverings. :)

DW as a whole is a good part of my childhood, though, so I have a memory back beyond the Nu-Who -( Tom Baker was my Doctor, 'cos I'm old.) I tend to think of it as a whole entity beyond the personalities of the show runners or even the Doctors, due to the nature of it.

I am staying well away from this fandom, though. Daleks have nothing on fanatic Whovians. ;)
Arabian: Rose_smilearabian on July 3rd, 2010 05:58 pm (UTC)
I'm assuming that you haven't read any Moffat interviews in any kind of length, because he makes Chuck Lorre look/sound like the most forward-thinking, fair-minded, non-sexist human being on the planet in comparison. Yeah.

I tried to get into Classic Who, but couldn't. However, I have a friend who has pretty much some degree of everything and she might make me copies of it all and I'll give it another go. Despite my severe dislike of Moffat, I gave in and watched this series because I do love the idea of Who and the Doctor so much, I couldn't walk away.

I am staying well away from this fandom, though. Daleks have nothing on fanatic Whovians. ;)

Oh, I pretty much stay in my Doctor/Rose-flist world of Who fandom because, yeah, woohoo!! The little bit I've heard? SCARY!
I deny your reality, and write my ownspaceanjl on July 3rd, 2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
Ah. Well, I stay away from interviews etc with cast and crew whenever possible - I like my show realities unsullied by the Real World. I like the show, but this is one where I am merely a viewer of entertainment. It hasn't hit the little trigger in my brain where things go wrong (yet)

The Who fandom is a bit like the Potter fandom, I think. Or possibly some kind of religion - all schisms and infighting and 'burn the heretic!' :)