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07 December 2009 @ 10:06 pm
TBBT - The Gorilla Experiment quick thoughts  
Seriously, just some quick thoughts I jotted while watching the show. I'll have much more to say tomorrow after a rewatch and some deep thoughts (not by Jack Handey -- cookie to whoever gets that reference).

- OMG!!!! The way that Sheldon (and everyone else) was looking at Penny when she explained his spot was AWESOME!! And then her smile when Sheldon said there was hope for her yet. SQUEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Okay, it's official, I do love Howard and Bernadette. They are adorable. :D

- OMG!! The look Sheldon sent Penny after the "Bazinga! I don't care" was awesome, made even more awesome when she showed him the food half-chewed in her mouth (eww, but still awesome!)

- Damnit, it does actually sound like Penny is doing this for Leonard, blech! Yes, I'm awful, but I don't want any kind of depth to their relationship. It contradicts everything we've seen about it thus far. Eh, nope, rewatched just one of the scenes and it made clear that was not the case. Phew!

- I'm not going to bash Leonard, but I will say that he is not funny and not nice. Writers, come on! When of the six characters seen on screen (one of them in only her third appearance), Leonard is my least favorite character by far, there is something wrong here!

- Sheldon taught Penny how to very intelligently insult Leonard. I LOVE IT!
 
 
 
Brandy: your ken can kiss my barbiebrandyleigh on December 8th, 2009 03:41 am (UTC)
Yes, I loved tonight's episode! The "there's hope for you yet" was so adorable. I also loved that even though Sheldon got a few little digs in, he tried really hard to teach Penny in a way she could understand. Maybe he didn't always succeed, but he really did try. So sweet.

I hope that the writers have some sort of plan for Leonard and that he'll eventually realize how he's acting and change his ways. I don't understand why the writers would want us to dislike him, but that's the way they're writing him at this point.

I think Bernadette and Howard are really cute, and I'm back on board this week after being pissed at Howard for originally being delusional and thinking he could get someone hotter.
Sarahpie_is_good on December 8th, 2009 04:18 am (UTC)
Feel free to link me to old entries or something, but why don't you like Leonard? I'm just curious. :) He's my favorite after Sheldon.

Penny was full of win in this episode. I loved both of her explanations, haha.
Arabian: Sheldon & Pennyarabian on December 8th, 2009 04:30 am (UTC)
Oh, lordy! Really?! I don't expound horribly much on Leonard in particular, but I've written these long breakdowns of every episode on the Sheldon/Penny comm (Paradox) that include little reviews as well as analysis of the potential Sheldon/Penny relationship, that winds up covering the fail of Leonard/Penny and my Leonard issues quite a bit. If you're interested, you can find them all here: The Big Bang Theory Breakdown Master List. I'm sure you wouldn't want to read the whole things (they are looooong), but the review and analysis sections are titled: The Succinct Critical Evaluation and The Paradoxical Shipper Analysis, and the length varies (although, the major S/P intereacting episodes can get pretty long.)

ETA: Let me add that I actually want very much to like Leonard. I really, really do.

ETA more: Just saw this review of tonight's episode and it includes this paragraph that absolutely sums up my Leonard issue in tonight's episode:
(Sorry blockquote text was way too small)

I’ve often been criticized for being too easily on Sheldon, as some have argued (sometimes successfully) that my love for the character wrongly becomes love for the person, who at times is legitimately mean and in some cases justifiably spurned by his friends. However, I think that bugs me about Leonard in this episode is that he was pretty terrible to Howard and yet wasn’t a fun character in the least. When Sheldon’s mean, there is at least our perverse entertainment from observing his hilarious antics. When it’s Leonard who fails to realize that Howard (who has never had a girlfriend) would be concerned about Leonard striking up a friendship with his girlfriend, and it’s Leonard who sends her a text message that clearly outs Howard as insecure and jealous, I find no enjoyment whatsoever. In fact, I actively dislike the character, which is something beyond the ambivalence that I usually feel for the guy.

(Source: Cultural Learnings)

Edited at 2009-12-08 04:36 am (UTC)
eolivet on December 8th, 2009 02:40 pm (UTC)
Damnit, it does actually sound like Penny is doing this for Leonard, blech!

Really? That's not the impression I got. I feel like Penny is competitive and she never would've cared two wits (whits?) about what Leonard does, if Bernadette hadn't "shown her up." It wasn't like she heard Leonard talking about his work and then suddenly got the urge to learn physics. It was all triggered by Bernadette knowing something she didn't (about her boyfriend, no less.)

What I found particularly telling is how Leonard seemed to light up at Bernadette wanting to know more about his job. Which means he does secretly want his girlfriend/ideal woman to understand and care about what he does. Contrasted with Sheldon's reaction to Penny: "Why would you want to learn physics?" (read: "You're not a physicist, I like you just the way you are!" Or something. ;p ) Which again is more of the death knell for L/P. ;)

I didn't hate Leonard in this ep so much as I hated Howard's massive insecurities, but I can see where he was being a (BBT's favorite insult!) douche. On its face, what he did wasn't so bad -- but the fact that Howard was his friend and he knew how sensitive Howard was about his new girlfriend...just made it worse. :/ (heck, I was just happy to see Leonard sans Penny ;p )
Arabian: Sheldon & Penny - Showtimearabian on December 8th, 2009 05:02 pm (UTC)
Really? That's not the impression I got. I feel like Penny is competitive and she never would've cared two wits (whits?) about what Leonard does, if Bernadette hadn't "shown her up." It wasn't like she heard Leonard talking about his work and then suddenly got the urge to learn physics. It was all triggered by Bernadette knowing something she didn't (about her boyfriend, no less.)

Even just clipping the scenes, I totally realized that, yeah, I was WRONG! Yay!

I didn't hate Leonard in this ep so much as I hated Howard's massive insecurities

This your lack of watching all the eps coming in again. Remember Dr. Stephanie? The redhead from that s2 rerun a month ago that Leonard was dating? We first met her because Howard picked her up in a bar with a line about driving a car on the moon, he then screwed something up at CalTech, asked Leonard to drive her home and Leonard wound up sleeping w/ her behind Howard's back. So with Leonard, this is a genuine, justified insecurity.

So, yeah, Leonard = major douche.
eolivet on December 8th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
We first met her because Howard picked her up in a bar with a line about driving a car on the moon, he then screwed something up at CalTech, asked Leonard to drive her home and Leonard wound up sleeping w/ her behind Howard's back.

What?! Aw, geez...well that does put an entirely different spin on it. :/ I stand corrected. :x

(Can't wait for the Breakdown...yay! :)
Arabian: Sheldon & Pennyarabian on December 8th, 2009 05:20 pm (UTC)
Get thee to Paradox and check out the ratings! DAMN!
S.: bbtheory; it all started with a big bangartic_fox on December 8th, 2009 08:20 pm (UTC)
I just love that when Sheldon did teach Penny something that it was basically a reguritation of his own thoughts on Leonard's work. I'm curious as to what exactly Penny's thought process was. Was she aware that she was insulting Leonard? Or was she aware and doing it anyway? I don't like the idea that Penny was just repeating and not realising what she was saying - after all, Penny isn't stupid, and I don't like it being implied that she is, just because she isn't science smart. So that leaves her *knowing* what she was saying. Which opens up more questions.

I can't wait for your breakdown of this episode. Lots of nuggets indeed!