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20 November 2009 @ 03:19 pm
Just ... whatever.  
I must say I am quite, quite glad that I never got completely hooked on Barney/Robin. I've read a few fics, and read the comm for news and such, but I'm not obsessive at all. (Note there are vague spoilers -- and some profanity -- under the cut.)

Because the fucker pulled out the "we're giving viewers what they REALLY want, not what they THINK they want" spiel. Really, Bays? REALLY!? I just -- ugh, I had SUCH respect and faith for the Bays/Thomas team of this show. Not just about the show in general, but about Barney/Robin in particular the first half of season four. But other than a few episodes in the second half, I was beginning to lose that faith, but figured I'd wait and see how they played out the Barney/Robin relationship in this season. And, as I posted about here, I've been very, very disappointed. And now this!? What is "this" you may ask ... read for yourself:
How I Met Your Mother’s decision to bring the Barney-Robin love story to a premature climax has left fans feeling decidedly unsatisfied. But executive producer Carter Bays insists the romance was sacrificed for a greater good: the preservation of Neil Patrick Harris’ legendary ladies’ man.

“None of us wanted to see Barney wearing a sweater-vest and going to bed-and-breakfasts,” says Bays, adding that it makes sense the relationship would “flame out fast” given that “neither of them, at their core, really wanted to be tied down.” Bays also believes that, deep down, viewers prefer single Barney to attached Barney. “It’s one of those things where you can give people what they think they want, or what they really want.”

And should some of them feel that they really want him to settle down with Robin, Bays offers this bit of hope. “[They] could get relationship amnesia and decide, ‘Hey, this is a good idea!’” he proposes. “This could be the first of many flameouts for them.”

Bays, however, stops short of saying a full-fledged reconciliation could be in their future. “I don’t want to say reconciliation,” he says. “But the story is not over, for sure.”
I just shake my head at it. THEY are the ones who chose to write Barney and Robin horribly out of character, fitting them into a square peg of a relationship when that is NOT Robin and Barney and NOT something that pretty much ANY FAN of the pair wanted. And they are the ones who wrote everything around them so off -- especially Lily. Oh, and THEY are the ones who are writing some deep, romantic connection for Robin two seconds after breaking up with Barney with some Don-dude, which makes even more of a joke about what Bays said here. As I said over at barneyrobin: Yeah, none of us wanted Barney sweater-vesting and bed-and-breakfasting, but my God, there is a HUGE area to play with between that and Barney being a ladies' man.

FAILURE OF IMAGINATION, BAYS!

There was so much awesomeness they could have done with Barney and Robin if they had just written them AS Barney and Robin, but in a relationship together. Instead they wrote pretty much EVERYTHING WRONG with them that they possibly could.

What. the. fuck. ever!
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Shane: JfD flips you offhavemy_heart on November 20th, 2009 08:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, his attitude and reasoning really pissed me off. I might have to break up with this show :/
Arabian: Little Boy Bluearabian on November 20th, 2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
I'll still watch it, but yeah, I'll never recommend it, and I won't buy any more DVDs.
Brandy: pay up hussybrandyleigh on November 20th, 2009 09:06 pm (UTC)
Ugh, unfortunately I am/was pretty into them. I must say I'm really shocked by this - I honestly thought they'd get back together eventually and do things right, even if most of their relationship this season was written like a cliche of any relationship on any sitcom. I'm not the type who has faith in writers or anything, but they'd always been good at writing relationships in the past, so I thought they'd do a good job with them.

I don't understand why they think it's all or nothing, either - like you said, there's a big area between womanizer and stereotypical boyfriend. I personally don't have any desire to see Barney act like he did in this most recent episode. The writers are the ones that chose to write Barney as someone more than just a one-note womanizer - they've done this since the first season, and then they spent all of last season hammering home the point that Barney was in love with Robin. It will make next to no sense if they just pretend this never happened, with Barney being totally cool with Robin falling for this new Don guy. On top of that, I'm not sure how it makes sense for Barney to be over-the-top crazy and single again, given all that's happened. Why will the rest of the gang want to continue to hang out with him? Marshall and Lily are married and have always rolled their eyes or admonished him for his behavior, Robin probably won't find him hitting on other women amusing anymore, plus she's apparently going to be in a new, serious relationship, and Ted seems to have grown past humoring Barney and his crazy antics. If Barney doesn't grow, or regresses even, I'm going to wonder why he's still friends with everyone.

I don't know if I'm going to give up on the show or not. They aren't the only reason I watched the show, but for one of the creators to have such a nonsensical reasoning for breaking up a couple they spent years building, it makes me question all of their decisions when it comes to where the show is headed. When Chuck comes back on Mondays, I'll probably just give it a miss and maybe catch up later if I have the time or if I hear that things turn around somehow.

ETA: I'm sorry, didn't realize I wrote that much!

Edited at 2009-11-20 09:07 pm (UTC)
Arabian: BrOtp (OhMyGod) - cap by buffyxarabian on November 20th, 2009 09:48 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry that you're so into them. I've COMPLETELY been there and it SUCKS!

I will still watch -- unless the show becomes completely unwatchable -- but I'm done hyping it, looking forward to it, etc. I've been mildly disappointed for awhile now, this was just a capper. And I'm not one who watched the show for B/R, so it's not about them breaking up. It's about how badly they wrote them in a relationship, how badly they wrote the relationship, how badly they've been writing Lily, how boring the overall season has been.

ETA: I'm sorry, didn't realize I wrote that much!

Never apologize for writing a lot. Look at my posts, I'm a fan of that!
Jessica: gilmore / l/l / only you and i togethergalfridian on November 20th, 2009 09:26 pm (UTC)
:( I know. I genuinely thought that because How I Met Your Mother was so fresh and original most times, I could trust the producers and writers with Barney/Robin. I thought that they saw what so many fans did: Two people who did not need or want a traditional life, who could love each other without the need to define, or limit, or detail, and could just be happy.

As it became clear that they were doing a poor job with Barney/Robin, and as the break-up happened, I realized they didn't see this. With this interview, I realized that Barney/Robin was a gimick to them, and nothing more. I had faith in the show. I no longer do. Nothing's drawing me toward it right now. I may need to be done.
Arabian: Sheldon Cooper01arabian on November 20th, 2009 09:50 pm (UTC)
As I said in other comments, I'll stick around because it's not unwatchable to me yet, but other than that, I pretty much agree with everything else you've said. Yeah.
lavender goomsthe_spin on November 20th, 2009 09:28 pm (UTC)
I was obviously disappointed by the stupid handling of Barney/Robin, but I was kind of just willing to live and let live, you know? I thought the storyline was clumsily done and sometimes shows fumble things badly. But that interview is just ridiculously douchey and now I'm pissed off when I don't want to be. UGH CARTER, I KNOW TED IS BASED ON YOU BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DOUCHE IT UP ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Arabian: One Angry Loganarabian on November 20th, 2009 09:50 pm (UTC)
YES, THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yours truly: himym: brotponebrightmoment on November 21st, 2009 01:25 am (UTC)
yep. pretty much everything you've said.

one of the things that got me immediately hooked on himym was how much planning the writers/creaters obviously put into the stories and the future of everything. so I had faith that even though things were awkward, they would work it out.

and then this? what? it's really disappointing the way he just waved it off like that. why bother spending all of last season building up to it?

psh. I'm not done with the show or anything, but I'm really disappointed. and oddly enough it's not because my 'ship sunk, but how it sunk.
S.: himym; barney (i hear that guy is awesomartic_fox on November 23rd, 2009 05:39 pm (UTC)
Agree, agree, agree. It's very disappointing.
logicisfailing: himymlogicisfailing on November 25th, 2009 04:49 am (UTC)
Totally. I've seen fanfic that was better developed (and actually IN CHARACTER) than the the Barney/Robin storyline this season. They built it up so got in the last season and just...ruined it this season.
logicisfailing: himymlogicisfailing on November 25th, 2009 04:51 am (UTC)
*so good, not so got. My brain's not really here atm.