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04 August 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Five Fandoms Meme - Top Five Doomed Ships (You Ship Anyway)  
A meme aobut your Top five doomed ships, okay then. Well, I may have never had a couple that made it big or lasted long, but coming up with this list made it clear that I haven't done as badly as I imagined couple-wise. I had a tough time coming up with five, and of those five, only three of them have I been long-term obsessed with. So that's pretty cool, I guess.

Buffy and Xander



I'd heard about Buffy the Vampire Slayer during its first season, and heard a lot more about Buffy and Angel, but I hadn't watched even a second of it and basically knew nothing other than that Sarah Michelle Gellar (Kendall from All My Children) was in it. One day, I caught an episode, but I was only half paying attention so I didn't get the character names. I just knew that by the end, Buffy -- yeah, I knew her -- and the gorgeous, dark-haired dude (obviously this Angel guy) had some serious chemistry and totally got the fuss. A little research and another episode later, I found out that no, the dark-haired dude wasn't Angel, but rather Xander. Then, I met Angel. I wasn't impressed with him, his looks or his chemistry with Buffy. Still, I figured he's a vampire, she's a slayer, maybe Buffy and Xander have a chance and the show is awesome!

Five and a half seasons later, I was still watching it, still mostly loving it even if it was clear I was never going to get my beloved Xander and Buffy, damnit! Then came "Once More with Feeling" and despite SMG and James Marsters' admitted chemistry, I couldn't get past the fact that Buffy -- no matter what her situation -- would never, ever, ever do that if she was still the character I'd followed the last five+ years. So I stopped watching. I tuned in for "Seeing Red" and enjoyed the Buffy/Xander scenes, and I rewatched OMwF a few times -- I still have the soundtrack -- but every time I watch it, time has not diminished my disbelief with Buffy's actions, so not only was Buffy/Xander doomed, so was the show for me. Ah well.

With the comic book going, it's still possibly I may eventually, someday get Buffy/Xander, but it won't be the same. I've accepted that this is my one all-time huge, completely obsessed with ship that will never happen. Ah well. But damn, Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar sure had some amazing chemistry.

George and Izzie



I still contend that Katherine Heigl and T.R. Knight have wonderful chemistry. I shipped George and Izzie from episode one, and there were certainly moments along the way that showed that potentiality. And then Shonda Rhimes actually *did* put them together, but in such a horrible, terrible way that it pretty much blasted any shot at success they had. A married George, a drunken George and Izzie, Izzie acting self-righteous about their love?! Oh, Lord, no. It was there, the brilliant potential and I absolutely believe Rimes when she says it was planned all along, the choice of execution just fucked it up beyond repair.

On the plus side, thanks to the season five ending, having it end with a possibly dead Izzie see a possibly dead George says to me that if they DO die, they're together forever. And even if only one or neither die, that when they're at the end, it's each other that they see. So, the Georgie/Izzie lover in me to that says ... awwwww!!! Together for eternity. At least there's that to hold on to.

Harry and Hermione



Sigh, there was a period where I was rereading the books and making notes that "proved" that it would be Harry/Hermione obsessively. Seriously. I still have the notebooks to this day. There's a lot of notes. I spent a lot of time on message boards debating it. I was (and still am) a proud Harmonian. Then came book six. Yeah, there went that dream.

I can write pages and pages about this, but the bottom-line for me is that JK Rowling should have let go of her planned epilogue and paid attention to what she had created: An amazing love story, filled with such nuance and refreshing in it's non-combative, delicate power. There was such a depth to Harry and Hermione's relationship, that frankly, I don't see how any other character could come close to touching. They always, *always* choose each other. They are always, *always* there for each other. They love each other completely and absolutely, and see each other completely and absolutely -- all the good and and the bad and the inbetween -- and still love each other completely and absolutely.

What a waste. What a waste. (And, damnit, Luna was *perfect* for Ron! He needed someone who adored him and put him first and foremost once and for all, and Luna did that for Ron!)

House and Cameron



No, the show isn't over yet, but considering the direction of the last season, it's pretty obvious that this ship is pretty much dead. Yes, it still has a chance of resurrection, but I'm not holding my breath. For me, I fell for them season one, right away, because I felt that Hugh Laurie and Jennifer Morrison had wonderful chemistry -- yup, the 'C' word again -- and I loved how their story was being told in between the lines and cracks. How Cameron was growing and changing for the better, and how House was always fascinated by her unending compassion for everyone and everything. I just loved them, and still have a teeny bit of hope. But yeah not much at all.

Wolverine and Rogue (movie-verse)



Hugh Jackman and Anna Paquin have some of the finest chemistry I've ever seen between two actors. Characters who shouldn't be shipped; who should have come across as wholly father/daughter didn't ... because these two had hot, crackling chemistry out the wazoo! I so wish that they'd just ignored the comic-canon -- as they already had with so many things -- and just gone there, damnit!! Man, they are so good together. And I continue to hold out hope that someday, Jackman and Paquin will do another film together. It could happen!
 
 
 
Larissa: P&P Ooooh Girllarissa_j on August 4th, 2009 05:07 pm (UTC)
You have much more patience than I do. If the ship I want goes south and it appears it's never going to happen in canon, I stop watching or reading ;)
Sea Hagsyrenstar on August 4th, 2009 07:13 pm (UTC)
I could agree more RE: H/HR (my back-up Harry ship was Harry/Luna though) and Rogue/Logan, when she 'sensed' him coming back and ditched Iceboy I totally shipper-squeed.

Harry/Ginny and Hermione/Ron weren't ships I could get into.
(Anonymous) on August 4th, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)
Bearing in mind how subjective this all is ... :)

The one I share is Harry/Hermione. Not that I saw in the JKR's books what you have -- amazing love story, etc. I found her to be good at plot-weaving, but as to anything personal, to do with nuance, character depth, etc. Most of her writing wa, to me, singularly uninspiring. As were her pairing choices. That aside, I really wanted Harry/Hermione. Because, like you said, it was a hell of a lot more organic, believable, and strong. Than anything else, really, in terms of romance in those books.

I've never been into the X-Men, so I can't really comment on chemistry. From what little I did see, it feels like there's an age difference that's ... troubling. lol. But I really don't know, and there have been matches of greater disparity. I'll trust you on this.

House and Cameron. You say chemistry, I say "eeeeek!" Now, here I would find the almost 20-year age difference icky, but that's the least of my problems. Starting with the fact that he is a sociopath, she has a martyr complex, and two psychosis just never make a good match. Also I couldn't really see the chemistry. Every time they flirted, I cringed. It felt grotesque and wrong to me.

And speaking of psychosis, Izzy and George! Those two come from the show that is populated by irreparably neurotic. And they shine among them. lol. Izzy started out well. I liked her. She was a fighter, she had something to prove, and she didn't take crap from people. Then, of course, she developed a shiny sanctimonious streak that grew like tumor and basically ruined the character for me. By the time she went completely bonkers (and I count that time from the moment she met Danny), I couldn't care less. And George I just didn't like from the start. He just irritated me in that way a character can sometimes, for no deep reason but just because they rub you the wrong way. It wasn't that I found him any more insufferable than the others, just that I couldn't make myself care about what happens to him (I did care for a while about the others). They might have had chemistry, but it was hard for me to notice, because it was hard for me to pay attention to either one of them.

Xander and Buffy. You really think Xander was gorgeous? I always thought his face was a bit ... off, somehow. (I didn't think Angel was that good looking, either. And for all this talk about Boreanaz's "presence," I didn't feel it). I did think Xander was engaging and endearing, and I liked his character a lot. But watching from day 1, I didn't for a second ship him with Buffy. Didn't see anything between them other than his initial crush on her. On the other hand, I did want him with Willow. I know you are not a fan of Willow, but I loved the girl. :)

I want to say: You know me well enough to realize I am not denying you any of your choices. If you feel it, you feel it. Heck, I had/have ships that not many support or see anything in. But that's what makes it fun to talk over. :)
hiddeneloisehiddeneloise on August 4th, 2009 08:39 pm (UTC)
Gah! That was me, up there! Got disconnected from LJ and didn't even notice. Weird. Anyway, sorry for the inadvertent anonymous reply. lol.

ETA: "Got disconnected," not "God." What is wrong with me today? Can't seem to do anything right! :)

Edited at 2009-08-04 08:40 pm (UTC)
But you can call me Bowie: chris eccleston 2isiscaughey on August 4th, 2009 08:46 pm (UTC)
I totally shipped movie-verse Rogue/Wolverine, too. Word.
faith5by5_1013: Actor: Billie Piper: Black&Whitefaith5by5_1013 on August 4th, 2009 09:23 pm (UTC)
I tend to stick with cannon ships.

I don't really ship Buffy with anyone religiously. But Buffy and Xander did have a lot of chemistry.

I loved House/Cameron and I will never understand the Cuddy obsession. Sometimes I feel like the only person who finds her incredibly annoying. I've given up hope, but that doesn't mean it's at all possible for me to be converted to the ship that horrifies me. I started shipping House/Cameron from the first episode I saw onwards. For all of the reasons you mentioned.

How Cameron was growing and changing for the better, and how House was always fascinated by her unending compassion for everyone and everything.

This is my favorite thing about them!
yours truly: text: kiss youonebrightmoment on August 5th, 2009 12:46 am (UTC)
YES

House/Cameron and Rogue/Wolverine are two of my FAV ships.

It's always ALL about the chemistry! I, too, would love to see Paquin and Jackman do another movie together. And I'm right there with you on House/Cam~ I've got a tiny spark of hope that won't die, but....

Oh, and though I'm not into Buffy/Xander, I totally agree about Buffy/Spike. I can remember being totally bewildered and thinking "oh man, another weird spell" and then it never really ended. Blah.
Laurel: Han and Leiacorusca on August 5th, 2009 12:51 am (UTC)
Oh my god, I so totally agree with Harry/Hermione (and Luna/Ron for that matter), Cameron/House and Logan/Rogue! Those are three ships that will forever drive me batty for not happening :(

Though I hated Izzie/George (mostly because I dislike George rather strongly) and I will die a Buffy/Angel shipper...still, mega agreement on the last three ;)
logicisfailing: morelogicisfailing on August 5th, 2009 05:05 am (UTC)
I don't ship most of these but none make me go "ick" either. Actually, I've never really been into HP but from what I've seen I think I would've been a H/Hr shipper over H/R.

Of course, totally with you on the House/Cameron & Wolverine/Rogue ships. Yes! - oh please, oh please let Hugh Jackman & Anna Paquin be in a project together!

I ship cannon ships sometimes (Doctor/Rose, Daniel/Vala, etc.) but I have quite a few that aren't so I'm used to that as well. And always awesome when a ship you think will never become cannon actually shocks you and does so (i.e., Barney/Robin, Drakken/Shego)! What really annoys me is ships I like that start off great and the show suddenly does a 360 and goes a completely different direction (John/Teyla, House/Cameron...)! What is with that??

Ah well, I've been let down with most of them lately. *Fingers crossed for Barney/Robin :-D *

Ha, I must have a thing for age gaps (older men? :-P) because I ship House/Cameron, Roque/Wolverine, Abby/Gibbs... Personally, I don't really even see the H/C age gap that badly but people are always pointing it out.
this girl's mostly fictionanti_social_ite on August 5th, 2009 05:35 am (UTC)
Just passing by to squee at the House/Cameron: squee!
(Anonymous) on March 5th, 2012 12:28 am (UTC)
I agree on Harry Potter, House, and X-Men, because, frankly, I haven't seen the other two shows to agree or not, but either way: I agree on those three because IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED, DAMMIT!
woobloo: damon/elenawoobloo on March 2nd, 2013 05:31 am (UTC)
Creeepy post four years late to say: I empathize with you on the BtVS thing. I don't get the B/X feels (I kind of love me some Buffy/Spike- I'll ship pretty much anything with chemistry, sigh- but to each their own). But I'm still sad about Xander/Cordy, because they were all kinds of adorable imo, so- doomed Xander ships= yay?

RE: H/H: I never could ship *anything* on this show, having read it with my nine-year-old niece a couple years ago, so for me it's steeped in childhood innocence and I'm perfectly happy with canon.

But I can only imagine the heartbreak if I did ship those two, because I do admit to loving their friendship moments (and the movies just ruined Ron for me, so.)

Never watched the other three, other than the pilot of Grey's Anatomy (should I watch it? Just didn't feel it, I don't know. I thought Ellen Pompeo was cute in her role, though.)

But yeah, creepy lurker!comment.

Doing a Buffy rewatch of some good eps now so felt the need to comment, I don't know. :)
Arabian: Damon & Elena23arabian on March 2nd, 2013 05:44 am (UTC)
I wouldn't recommend Grey's AT ALL. And I don't know remember what I thought about Ellen Pompeo after the first episode, but I knew it wasn't long before I loathed her and the character INTENSELY.

(Not creepy at all, I love reading responses to older posts!)
woobloo: jackie/hydewoobloo on March 2nd, 2013 06:04 am (UTC)
Good to know; I'm not much into the medical soaps, anyway.

Ha- I called HP a "show"! Guess I'm very much into the TV world now; it's official.

Speaking of doomed ships.... see: userpic. Still heartbroken about these two.
Arabian: GWTWarabian on March 2nd, 2013 06:39 am (UTC)
I only watched That 70's Show on occasion, but I liked them and my best friend loved them. Damn, talk about a totally screwed fanbase.