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31 May 2009 @ 04:15 pm
'Chuck' ... all about 'Chuck!'  
So, I watched Chuck. I started out re-watching the Pilot and had the same 'eh' reaction I had originally, but I kept going. At about episode six or seven, I'd say I started to really get into it and by the season one finale, I was hooked and watched the first episode of season two right after, before going to bed. Then I watched season two in three batches, episodes 2-12, episode 13 before work, and then finally episodes 14-22. Yeah, totally hooked. Behind the cut, my overall thoughts on the show, specifically about the characters, actors and the main love story, cuz you know, it's me.

Completely unrealistic, LOL!, but hilarous, and yet, also poignant with some great drama. I can honestly say that by the end of season two, I actually had only three issues with the entire series: One short arc that I pretty much hated, the writing of one guest-shot character, and one bit of casting. For thirty-five episodes that is not bad at all.

The overall appeal of the show is wonderful, but specifically I really enjoyed two aspects of how Chuck is written. But for one thread (albeit glaring to me, maybe someone can offer an explanation that I missed), it does an absolutely wonderful job of dropping hints and threads that are used to further plot and/or character in an organic way. I did begin to look for those hints because I *knew* that the show wouldn't disappoint, and it didn't. A great example was from the season two finale when Ellie mentioned that she had dreamed of a beach wedding, but the grand wedding was wonderful. And then once her grand wedding was destroyed, I was like 'ahh! she's gonna get her beach wedding.' There were many, many more; that's just a recent, good example.

On the flip side, they had one in-your-face, totally non-organic thingie that stuck out like a sore thumb (Casey's sudden appearance of the Crown Vic with the GPS being used was clearly thrown in for the later-plot point). However, that one there made it obvious just how well done all of the other many subtle, organic threads thrown in time and time again.

Speaking of dropping things, the show also does a great job of introducing issues/conflicts that continue to weave themselves throughout the episodes like real life. When something is introduced, you know there will be follow-through on Chuck. Erm, except when there isn't, LOL! That glaring one I mentioned above: At the end of season one, the General told Casey he had to kill Chuck when they had their new Intersect, and despite continued discussion of the Intersect in the second season, never again was there mention of that. Not that I mind, cuz you know I don't want Casey to kill Chuck, but still, that was a pretty glaring dropped bit o' conflict there. Or did I miss something? Please tell me I did.

Getting the negative out of the way, the arc I hated was the one with MI-6 agent, Cole Barker. He brought nothing to the show and added nothing plot-wise. If his character/storyline was removed, it would not change anything in the slightest. We didn't need him realizing at the end that Sarah loved Chuck and that's why she wouldn't go with him; we already knew that Sarah loved Chuck. Chuck also didn't need Barker to give him faith in his own abilities because he didn't. He made Chuck feel more inadequate than usual, and Sarah, Bryce and his dad covered the 'make Chuck more confident' area nicely in the end.

Ugh, and just the way the arc was written with all of the looks and moments between Cole and Sarah pissed me off as a Chuck/Sarah shipper (yep, I'm there) and as a Sarah-fan (totally there) because I absolutely believe that Sarah loves Chuck, and she wouldn't be into this guy at all, because: Hello?!?!? CHUCK!!! And then we have this arc where she's locking gazes with wonder-spy, passionately kissing him, etc. and I was just like "HELL TO THE NO!!!" Did NOT like that arc at all. I didn't like it during the execution, and hated it in retrospect because it added absolutely nothing to the story and was thus completely pointless.

Phew! Okay, other than a few quibbles (and one role I found badly cast), which I'll discuss later on, I loved everything else. So let's break it down!

Actors, principle and guest-shots

Zachary Levi/Chuck - I think he's fabulous. He pulls off the nerdy, but he's also believable in the spy sequences well. Levi is also effortlessly able to plumb the emotional depths -- no matter what emotion -- of Chuck; he's always believable, always there in the moment. He's got great comic timing and is just very real. As for Chuck, he's just a great character, a real guy. And the show has done a wonderful job of showing how he is a hero, choosing to put the Intersect back in his head in the finale was such a powerful moment (sold beautifully by Levi). However, he's not my favorite of the cast, nor is Chuck my favorite character. That would be ...

Yvonne Strahovski/Sarah - LOVE HER! I think part of why I hated the Cole Barker arc so much was that it messed with the character continuity of Sarah and her love for Chuck. It's weird because I found her pretty generic in the Pilot and first few episodes, but at some point -- I can't even pinpoint where -- she became my favorite. I think Strahovski is marvelous. Sarah is such a good soul; I adore her to bits. She's gorgeous, kicks-ass, has a heart, brains, soul, everything. She's the perfect woman. I want to be Sarah when I grow up. And Strahovski just nails every thing, every moment, every nuance, every sell.

She's fabulous. Like Levi, she's got the comic timing, as well as the dramatic chops. I mean, my god! that episode where she killed that Fulcrum agent to protect Chuck, even knowing that orders would want her to bring him in, how Strahovski played that just broke my heart. Beautiful. And is it just me or am I the only who thinks she looks like a more-classically attractive Julia Stiles? They could totally play sisters. Oh, and I got to give her kudos. I had NO CLUE she was Australian and was so impressed with her Australian accent in that one episode. I was shocked when I read that she actually *is* Australian because she does a spot-on FANTASTIC American accent. If I haven't mentioned it yet ... Yvonne Strahovski is AWESOME!

Adam Baldwin/Casey - I like Baldwin, but I've never *loved* him. I feel about Casey the way I do about all his characters. He's good. My favorite thing about the character is his relationship with Chuck (not in a slashy way though, I see absolutely NO subtext whatsoever). And I definitely prefer him as supporting, the two episodes that centered on him (his ex and his Sensei) were my least favorites -- still great of course -- outside of the Barker episodes.

Joshua Gomez/Morgan - I like him, but I don't love him. I DO love his friendship with Chuck though, more on that in the relationship section. Morgan does amuse me though. I'm also enjoying his evolving relationship with Big Mike. Simply put, I like what he brings to the show, although, I never need to see him without a shirt again. Really.

Sarah Lancaster/Ellie - She's my least favorite of the regular cast. I don't dislike her, I'm just eh on her. However, I do like her relationship with Awesome a lot.

Ryan McPartlin/Awesome - Yeah, okay, whatever Devon. I love Awesome. He was actually my favorite thing about the Pilot and watching the whole series his awesome so remained. He's just a genuinely good guy ... who happens to be awesome. I think McPartlin does a great job in showing the real guy behind the chiseled/perfect guy surface.

Bonita Friedericy/General Beckman - I like her. That's it.

The Buy More Gang - I love them all: Vik Sahay's Lester and Scott Krinsky's Jeff and their besties relationship. Mark Christopher Lawrence's Big Mike is such a caricature, but like with so much of this show, there's depth to him. And I just like the actor's affability beneath the gruff exterior. Julia Ling's Anna is a delight; I love her. I know that Josh Schwartz said that we'll see all of the gang despite budget cuts. Of course, he also said that we'd see a bit less of the gang because of budget cuts, but that's okay because some of their stories in the past seasons could have been cut and it wouldn't have hurt the show. I enjoyed the subplots (especially Jeffster!!! -- loved the wedding "Final Countdown" performance), but the omission of some of them is acceptable if it means we keep the show and the cast as is.

Guest Stars

TONY HALE/Emmett - I heart Tony Hale. My only problem with Emmett is that I kinda wish that he had stayed the ass-man (hee!) and had just become part of the team as it seemed that he was starting to do. I just love Tony Hale so much, his Buster was my favorite character on Arrested Development and watching him here, I was reminded why. He's a brilliant comedic actor. Love him to bits, and I REALLY hope he returns next season since Schwartz said we would see a few new cast members. Pretty, pretty please.

Scott Bakula - Fabulous, fabulous casting. If you just imagine that Chuck's grandparents (at least one of 'em) was really tall, his height (less than Chuck's) is explained, and if mom had dark hair, we're good. Because Bakula looks enough like Levi (although, I never would have seen it were he not cast) with enough of the same type of acting style/mannerisms that it absolutely works. Putting that aside, Bakula is a great actor and I hope he's alongside Hale in becoming a cast member next season. Oh, and as a long-time Quantum Leap fan, I LOVED his "oh, boy" when he walked into Ellie/Awesome's place.

Matthew Bomer/Bryce - Other than Levi towering over him, he fits the perfect Bryce perfectly. Schwartz and co. did a fabulous job with weaving this character in and out of the show, both character and plot-wise. And Bomer hit all the right notes.

Jordana Brewster/Jill - And this would be my big casting dislike. She. can. not. act. I thought this when she was in her teens on As the World Turns, I thought this during her film career. I thought this even when she had awesome chemistry with Christopher Eccleston in The Invisible Circus. She. can. not. act. She's wooden. Very, very wooden. Also? I don't find her gorgeous, despite the press. (Yvonne Strahovski > Jordana Brewster) I just didn't care about the Chuck/Jill subplot and had to keep reminding myself that I shouldn't be mad at Chuck because it was his first BIG love, Jill, so it was understandable that he was fawning over him despite Sarah. But it was hard because Brewster and Levi had no chemistry, and, oh yeah, Jordana. Brewster. can. not. act.

Rachel Bilson/Lou - On the other hand, Bilson was lovely and she and Levi DID have chemistry. Plus, it was early enough that I was okay with Chuck falling for someone other than Sarah. They were cute; I liked them.

Trica Helfer/Alex Forrest - And here would be the guest-character where I didn't like the writing. I didn't have a problem with the stuff with Awesome because if all else fails, you're gonna do what you have to do, I get that. But she was a bad spy overall, and a horrible handler. She put Chuck's life in danger so much, and didn't take into account the reality of keeping him safe, like, at all. She sucked. And I like Tricia Helfer, I do. Oh, and one other thing: Why was her character name the same as Glenn Close's in Fatal Attraction? Weird, and the whole Casey/Alex flirty looks went nowhere. Yeah, this character just did not work.

Various famous guest-stars - Chuck does a good job of utilizing their famous guest stars organically into the plot. My favorites were Dominic Monoghan as the rock star, and Nicole Richie as the girl from Sarah's past. (Speaking of -- damn, did they do a good job of making Yvonne Strahovski unattractive in that episode!) Chevy Chase, Morgan Fairchild, Bruce Boxleitner, Gary Cole, et al. all were used well.

Relationships

Chuck/Sarah - I'm not OBSESSED with them, like Logan/Veronica, Doctor/Rose, Sheldon/Penny obsessed, but I really, really, really like them. Put it this way, I rewatched the first kiss about five times, and the bedroom scene in episode 2.21 about twenty times. And made an icon from that scene. And went back and rewatched it another twenty times or so. I love how in love they are; but how believable that they are apart. I love how their love is based on who they are as people ... moreso for Sarah than Chuck. But that's evened out pretty nicely, I think. They are there for each other emotionally, they risk things for each other and not just because it's their job. Levi and Strahovski look fabulous together, and have a wonderful chemistry. I love them, I really do.

Chuck/Morgan - I LOVE their friendship. I think this is the most realistic portrayal of long-time friendship on television. The episode where Chuck had to "betray" Morgan was a wonderful lens on that. His speech to Sarah about what Morgan meant to him, the way that Morgan didn't hold it against Chuck and be all pissy for three/four episodes, but rather took into account their history and their friendship was fine. I just love their relationship, and if Chuck could tell one (other) person the truth about his "secret" life I'd love for it to be Morgan, but I get why that hasn't happened ... and most likely won't.

Chuck/Casey - I like their friendship; and I like when Casey shows that he does care.

Morgan/Anna - I love this relationship. What's cool is that there were hints in a few episodes before it happened where Anna would say things that bespoke of feeling for Morgan. I'm glad they're still together. And I loved Sarah's line to Anna about how she should know that Morgan was the one because it was Morgan to who she was comparing new boyfriend to. I love Sarah.

Ellie/Awesome - It's fabulous seeing such a trusting, (mostly) non-dysfunctional romance on tv. Sure they're already together, but that hasn't stopped the writers from showing their romance, and it's lovely.

Random thoughts -- in no particular order ...

- Hah, go me! I totally thought that Orion was his dad. Then he was done exploded in the helicopter, I thought, oops, I was wrong. But, hahah! I was right. Still, nice fake-a-roo there, show. And it made it make so much perfect sense that Orion sought him out and trusted him so completely.

- On that note, I love how everyone who's involved (except Casey, for the most part) believes so thoroughly in Chuck, but yet keeps trying to protect him so thoroughly not because they think less of him, but just because they love him so much and don't want him tainted by the darkness that can come with the job. They know that he can do it, they just don't want him to because they love him. Awww.

- I much preferred the "Weinerlicious" shop as opposed to the boring "FroYo" place. Plus, I thought Sarah's Weinerlicious outfit was adorable, as were the long pigtails. So cute. Speaking of ...

- Man, I wish that Strahovski hadn't cut her hair in season two. It's not that MUCH shorter, but it's definitely shorter. I hope she grows it longer again cuz I loved it in season one.

- I mentioned loving Jeffster's "Final Countown" performance above, but I gotta give it props here as well because that performance edited in with the dramatic/action-packed moments happening at the wedding was a tour-de-force of television-making skill. GO ROBERT DUNCAN McNEIL! McNeil is one half of one of my all-time favorite couples: Paris/Torres of Voyager. (He was Paris.) He began directing episodes during that show's run and he did just a brilliant job. It's wonderful seeing him continue to show off that brilliance as a supervising producer and some-time director of this show (as he directed the finale). And, hee, the Torres of the pairing -- Roxann Dawson -- is a producer and some-time director of Cold Case. This makes her and McNeil the only two former Voyager cast, despite several directing during the show's run, who've found success as a TV-director. Go Paris/Torres!!

- DAMN, I loved Chuck getting all dressed up in battle gear, and then when he pulled the gun on Casey, I actually sat up and yelled: "Go Chuck!" It was awesome, and hot.

- I loved how in the season two finale, it came full-circle. We had Bryce in the Intersect room doing what had to be done, then fighting, before "dying." In the finale, we had Bryce truly dying, Chuck in the Intersect room doing what had to be done, then fighting ("Guys, I know Kung Fu."). It was awesome. I literally stood up and clapped when Chuck was going all Matrix on the baddies, I loved it, loved it, loved it. And rewatched it a few times.

Heh! "Guys, I know kung-fu." And I knew he learned kung-fu because I had seen that mentioned here and there, so I kept waiting for him to learn and then when Bryce told Orion that the new Intersect could do awesome things, I was like, 'Oh, Chuck is gonna get the new Intersect in his brain and learn Kung-fu that way.' And he did, but it was still awesome and being spoiled that way didn't diminish the awesome of that final kick-awesome scene.

Erm, okay, I think that's it thoughts-wise. Bottom-line: Chuck is LOVE! And it SUCKS SO ROYALLY that we have to wait until March of 2010 before we see more, but at least it's coming back. At least there is that.

One final question: Can anyone recommend any good fanvids (show or Chuck/Sarah-based, no Chuck or Sarah other pairings recs, please) or good meaty fic, if there's romance -- only Chuck/Sarah based, please. Me = couple girl.

* Sigh, I accidentally deleted my original Chuck post. Wasn't much there, but I had enjoyed the comments. Damnit.
 
 
 
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Arabian: Sheldon & Pennyarabian on May 31st, 2009 11:33 pm (UTC)
It really is wonderful. I did it a big disservice by not giving it a chance based on the Pilot only. I won't make that mistake again. Note to self: When almost everyone on your flist is raving, remember that they're on your flist for a reason.
Phibatola: Chuck Dancephibatola on June 1st, 2009 03:42 pm (UTC)
Sorry to sneak in here... if I may be so bold
...I can second that. It really is a nice show. You know what is great about chuck? That you can watch it with your whole family because it refuses to take it self seriously. You know how other fandoms have drama and death and mayham? This is just one show that you can just sit and relax with and it will take you on a good ride.. (seriously check youtube there are six year olds reviewing the show). Its just one fun thing happening after the other. A nice breather from all the craziness of what is happening on your TV. Your friend is right though. It does take a while to warm up to it. The first few episodes are a bit slow but you can't help but fall for it in the end. I highly recommend it.

Edited at 2009-06-01 03:43 pm (UTC)
WeHo M.: C - Kung Fuafrocurl on May 31st, 2009 11:06 pm (UTC)
I don't know if there's much in the way of meaty CS fics out there--there's a ton of slashers in the fandom, and I know that plenty of people didn't like Sarah as a love interest in the first season, but I can ask around later to see if I can get you some.
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah02arabian on May 31st, 2009 11:36 pm (UTC)
Sigh, so tired of slash in fandom, I really am. I just do not understand why it's so prevalent EVERYWHERE in fandom even when there is so clearly, obviously NOTHING in the canon subject matter there. Yeah, yeah, Chuck kissed Casey but it was for life-saving purposes and neither was moved to swing the other way, LOL! Sigh. This isn't directed at you, it's just something that's been growing in frustration no matter the fandom. I honestly think that Sheldon/Penny is the *ONLY* fandom I've been involved in the last ten years that isn't filled with tons of slash-fandom as well ... and I. do. not. get. it. Of course, I'm a canon (or at least, canon-possible) girl. ::shrugs::

Yeah, I know there's not a lot of Sarah love out there. ::sniffles:: She's awesome. I appreciate you looking around for me. :)
WeHo M.: C - Hugafrocurl on May 31st, 2009 11:39 pm (UTC)
I think most of the slash is actually Chuck/Bryce, but I could be wrong.

Give me a day and I'll get whatever I can.
Arabian: Logan_Hiarabian on May 31st, 2009 11:51 pm (UTC)
Oh, that's actually not surprising. I can see some subtext there. Yeah, that I can see. Okay, if it's not mostly Chuck/Casey, but then I'm not that annoyed with slash in the Chuck fandom.

I read that as CASEY/Bryce. Yeah, no to Chuck/Bryce. Yeah, there's more than with Chuck/Casey, but no, it's still wrong. They were friends; why is it so hard for male characters (who are considered reasonably good-looking) who are friends to be perceived as JUST friends? The male friendship can be a beautiful thing but turning Spock/Kirk, Chuck/Byrce, whatever is so frustrating. Gah!!!!!!!!!!!

Bryce LOVES Chuck as a friend, that's what makes it so beautiful. That he's done all he has because he loves Chuck as a person, as one of his best friends. It's the same thing that makes Bryce's betrayal so painful for Chuck. Not because they had subliminal, homo-erotic feelings for one another, but because of their deep friendship. Same thing for the beauty of the Chuck/Morgan friendship.

I just think it's demeaning and a dismissal of great male friendships to slash/ship them just because they are (a) reasonably good-looking and (b) love one another ... PLATONICALLY.

Arrgggh!! Again, this is not directed at you, it's just something that frustrates me.

Take your time, don't worry. I appreciate you ferreting them out for me, but don't rush. Take your time. :)

Edited at 2009-05-31 11:52 pm (UTC)
sarahvalanchecloudydaise on June 1st, 2009 06:34 am (UTC)
I AGREE SO HARD with everything in this comment. Sometimes I get that there's "subtext" or whatever, but 9 times out of 10 it isn't written that way, and why, why, why can't fandoms just accept that. Not every bromance is a romance!

Ok rant over.
Arabian: Billie Piper_04arabian on June 1st, 2009 06:40 am (UTC)
God, thank you!!!!!!!!! I am so very, very glad to know that I'm not alone with this. It's really been bugging me more and more lately. I think it's because I immersed myself in the Star Trek universe for a bit, but god, I swear the fandom is 90% Spock/Kirk shipping and I, just, gah! I can't take it. I had to leave all but the Spock/Uhura (you know, the actual CANON romance!) lj comm. Spock and Kirk (and Spock and McCoy, Kirk and McCoy) are FRIENDS, best, true friends who love each other deeply ... but NOT IN A SEXUAL WAY.

Sometimes? A cigar really is just a friggin' cigar.

Edited at 2009-06-01 06:41 am (UTC)
sarahvalanche: st - spock/nyotacloudydaise on June 1st, 2009 07:07 am (UTC)
SPOCK/KIRK IS THE MOST PERFECT EXAMPLE. I love them both individually, and I love them DEARLY as friends. I can take small doses of jokes when it comes to them being in love with each other as long as it is accompanied with an unspoken "haha well, not really." But what you said about everyone automatically shipping them because they're friends who deeply care about each other cheapening it is SO TRUE. It seriously upsets me, because these characters are legendary, and forcing them into a relationship that is unnatural to the way they were CONCEIVED and WRITTEN for AGES... well, it makes me slightly unreasonable.

But anyway... I'm glad I'm not the only canon shipper in the universe. I think we are a rare species.
Arabian: Spock & Uhura (2009_01arabian on June 1st, 2009 08:47 am (UTC)
We're not alone; we're just members of a very small group on the internet, I think, though. SIGH.

everyone automatically shipping them because they're friends who deeply care about each other cheapening it is SO TRUE. It seriously upsets me, because these characters are legendary, and forcing them into a relationship that is unnatural to the way they were CONCEIVED and WRITTEN for AGES... well, it makes me slightly unreasonable.

Yup, it cheapens it; it really does.
Barbara: Chuck/Sarahhtbthomas on May 31st, 2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
YAY again! I'm so glad you gave the show another chance!

As far as Chuck/Sarah recs, I'm still working my way through things that are out there (never read fic until late season 2). But I really like ndnickerson's stuff and there are also some good recs at this post. :)

I'd rec my own story, except it's really not heavy on the Chuck/Sarah... :D
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah02arabian on May 31st, 2009 11:53 pm (UTC)
SQUEE!!!! You like Chuck/Sarah too. Yay, at least one person on my flist will squee with me about them as well. Yay!!!

Thanks for the recs!! :)
Barbara: Chuck/Sarahhtbthomas on May 31st, 2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, yeah and I've watched that 2x21 hotel scene about 50 times, too. (And the Awesome revelation). Enough that I've revised my opinion of Bon Iver's "Creature Fear". (I didn't like Bon Iver before - now I like THAT SONG).
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah01arabian on June 1st, 2009 12:10 am (UTC)
Ooh, is that the name of the song that plays in that scene?! Do you have an mp3 of it? I'd love it.
Barbara: Chuck - Awesomehtbthomas on June 1st, 2009 12:17 am (UTC)
Here you go!

And there's a lot of great stuff at chuckmusiq, too. I've fallen in love with several songs from the end of S2.
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah03 - Lovearabian on June 1st, 2009 12:31 am (UTC)
Score!!! Thank you so much!!!

Edited at 2009-06-01 12:51 am (UTC)
Brandy: cigar aficionadosbrandyleigh on June 1st, 2009 12:51 am (UTC)
I'm glad you decided to give Chuck another chance. It really is a great show, and I have similar thoughts about it as you do, though I love Casey a ridiculous amount and I really enjoyed the two episodes focused on him. Chuck/Sarah are wonderful, but like you I'm not obsessed with them, and that's probably why I didn't dislike some of their other love interests as much as I would have otherwise, although I agree that Jordana Brewster is not a very good actress.

I wish I had some recs for you, but due to me not being obsessed with Chuck/Sarah I haven't really sought any out, although there are a couple at Yuletide.
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah02arabian on June 1st, 2009 01:03 am (UTC)
I'm glad I decided to. As I said above I really need to remember that my flist is my flist for a reason and when the vast majority of them raves about something, I'll probably agree!!!

I didn't mind the other love interests because of how it was executed except for stupid Cole Barker. Grrrr.
zellie: tv | chuck : cuteleucocrystal on June 1st, 2009 12:53 am (UTC)
Awesome, awesome to the max! I love seeing more people get into the show, now that I've finally gotten into it myself. I have to admit though that Levi/Chuck remain my favorite. I do think Yvonne is great as Sarah, and that Sarah is a great character, but occasionally you can actually HEAR how tightly she clenches her jaw while speaking (for the sake of the accent), and it kind of grates on me at times. That said, she's still gorgeous and totally badass.
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah01arabian on June 1st, 2009 01:04 am (UTC)
I do think that Levi is great, but Strahovski has just so become my girl-crush, LOL! I love her to bits. (And it's actually kinda nice because it's been a loooooooooong time since my favorite in a pairing was the girl. Go girl-power!) I've never noticed the jaw-clenching, or just attributed it to Sarah being annoyed, LOL!

Glad to know you do still like her though. She's awesome. Of course, he's awesome. Chuck is awesome!
zellie: tv | chuck : passionleucocrystal on June 1st, 2009 01:08 am (UTC)
Of course, he's awesome. Chuck is awesome!
Indeed it is, whee! :D
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah03 - Lovearabian on June 1st, 2009 02:22 am (UTC)
Oh, I heart your icon so much. I'm slowly going through caps to find some good ones to make icons from.
super spiff retro Barbie: CH - don't freak out00mina on June 1st, 2009 01:27 am (UTC)
Ooh just saw this post on my f-list and went YAY more Chuck fans!! ^^ I really like the show and was kind of like you. At first I was 'eh' about it, only ramdomly watched, and suddenly I was hooked and couldn't wait for the next episode :)

About the "Casey, you have to kill Chuck" part, I think at first (by the end of s1) he had to do it because having a guy with all the government secrets in his head was a no-no. Then they DIDN'T have a new Intersect, and had to use Chuck again (all of s2). Then they had the Intersect once more, but it was wiped from his head so he wasn't a treat anymore so he didn't need to be killed (end of s2).

And let me join on the squeeing for Sarah's awesomeness!! She's GREAT!
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah01arabian on June 1st, 2009 02:51 am (UTC)
Yeah, but the thing is that the General told Casey that Chuck had to be killed whether the Intersect was out of his head or not, so, yeah, it didn't make sense. I wonder if that was something they just kinda want to ignore because it makes both the General and Casey not so viewer-friendly.

Sarah IS the awesome.
Cynical Bitch: olivia spencer: tweetingunicorn23 on June 1st, 2009 02:15 am (UTC)
Yay, another Chuck fan! :) I enjoyed your entry very much, thank you for taking time to post that.

I agree with you on almost everything (I'm a Jordana fan) especially what you said about Yvonne. That scene with the Fulcrum agent just blew me away. She can definitely act and it was such a pleasant surprise to learn this while watching the show. The girl's got chops.
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah02arabian on June 1st, 2009 02:51 am (UTC)
That scene was just utterly heartbreaking. She did an amazing job. That was the scene where I knew definitively that Yvonne Strahovski/Sarah was my favorite.
logicisfailinglogicisfailing on June 1st, 2009 03:19 am (UTC)
I just got home and I'm exhausted - no witty comments right now, lol, but here are some vid recs! Several of my favorites on YT were deleted or muted but here a few.

One of mine:
(I'm so happy I can acually show mine to someone! Most of my RL friends don't watch chuck and most of my LJ friends haven't gotten far enough not to be spoiled by them.)


My other one was muted on YT but here's the link to my journal where there's a DL link: http://logicisfailing.livejournal.com/30420.html (It's F-lockced but if anyone else wants the link just PM me :-) It's a Chuck/Sarah vid to Nobody Does it Better (aka The Spy Who Loved Me) by Carly Simon.

Some other Chuck/Sarah vids on YT:
Love You Anyway


Crush


I know you said you mainly wanted Chuck/Sarah vids but this is a great Chuck-centered (and very amusing, lol) vid to "Man for All Seasons"


Sorry that you accidentally deleted your first version of this post! I hate it when I do that. I did the same thing when I wrote my Star Trek reaction post. So frustrating :-Z
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah03 - Lovearabian on June 1st, 2009 03:37 am (UTC)
I actually just downloaded 'The Spy Who Loved Me' vid before I even saw this, it was lovely, but I ADORED the "Love" one here. Do you have that HQ to download?? As for the others, I don't like the funky texturing they did on the images, but I don't mind other recs for non Chuck/Sarah vids. I just don't want Chuck/other, Sarah/other vids.

Fortunately, I didn't mean my first version of this post, but my post where I just said I watched the show and loved it. There had been about 20 replies to that and they're gone now. Ah well.
logicisfailinglogicisfailing on June 1st, 2009 04:00 am (UTC)
Ohhh...that post. Sorry, I'm really tired right now and not thinking straight :-P

Yay, I'm glad you liked my vids! The Spy Who Loved Me just seemed perfect - I HAD to make it. I've seen zillions of fanvids to "Love" in other fandoms but it seemed to fit Chuck/Sarah especially well - it practically made itself! I know I have a more HQ version of the Spy Who Loved Me vid but let me check on the Love vid, I think I have a more HQ version (it's not HD or anything, but better than the other DL link) - I'll try to upload it to MU tomorrow for you :-)

Yeah, the effects were a little heavy in some of them but I still thought they were great. I watched a bunch of Chuck vids after I obsessivly watched seasons 1 and what there was of 2 a few months ago.

Oh, here are several other vids I remembered:
both Chuck/Sarah.

Accidentally in Love
(even if you're tired of the song give it a try - it's really well done)
Discover Simple, Private Sharing at Drop.io
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More Than Anyone
(embedding's disabled)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWIxtkvWnzg
logicisfailinglogicisfailing on June 1st, 2009 04:02 am (UTC)
*sigh* That lame website won't let me embed the other vid either.

Here's the link: http://drop.io/chuck_and_sarah
B: changetakemejustasiam on June 1st, 2009 04:29 am (UTC)
Yay Chuck!!

Three vids I love:

You're An Ocean (http://shoopdancer.livejournal.com/63933.html)

Don't Make Me A Target (http://community.livejournal.com/chucktv/182567.html)

And my all time favorite Chuck vid ever! Which is really all about Sarah

Creator (http://community.livejournal.com/vidding/1709103.html)
logicisfailinglogicisfailing on June 1st, 2009 04:40 am (UTC)
I second the "You're An Ocean" vid. It's cute :-)
Arabian: Dr Who (10) - Impossible Planetarabian on June 1st, 2009 06:14 am (UTC)
I'm sorry; unless it's brilliance itself, I can't go there. I watched the first 10 seconds or and it wasn't brilliant enough. This song is my happy/happy, joy/joy Ten/Rose song. Sorry, that's their song.
Sylvike: old piano keysfishsanwitt on June 1st, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
I have *always* loved 'Release the Casey!'
Arabian: Rose_Thinkingarabian on June 1st, 2009 06:41 am (UTC)
Okay, I'm confused. What?! What did I miss? I don't see a vid link with that anywhere.
Sylvikefishsanwitt on June 1st, 2009 03:37 pm (UTC)
Sorry! I was commenting about a phrase that Chuck used on one caper - no links.
michaelamd23michaelamd23 on June 1st, 2009 01:29 pm (UTC)
OOH nice review... besides the Cole part... I have to dissagree...

I dont want to explain it here.... because I already have.

In my FIC Evolution of Love
http://michaelamd23.livejournal.com/2035.html

woots!
Phibatola: Chuck 45 Minutes 15 secondsphibatola on June 1st, 2009 04:12 pm (UTC)
Part 1
Well welcome to the fandom. Its always nice to meet new fans. There are things about your review that I agree with for example I agree about the casting and character of Jill. I too like Charah but I found Lou/Chuck adorable and believable. Yes the show is a bit meh to start with but it grows on you fast. I have to tell you my favourite character is chuck and my second favourite character is Sarah. I do wish we would know her real name though. They did that in a show called the Pretender as well (the no real name thing) and I must tell you I wasn't a big fan of that either. I also love casey as the third part of the trio but did not think much of his episodes. The episode I did not like though was the one with missile command. Totally pointless. Nothing to do with the story line they keep woveing so nicely as you say. My favourite guest stars are Rachel (Lou) and Scott (Dad). They are made of awesome. I also like "Jack". I found the whole episode where he called chuck Smuck highly amusing although I was not much impressed with the acting the story line was brilliant.

You shouldn't judge Sarah so harshly about Cole. Remember she has not known anything real ever. Including a relationship. All her relationships have been either fake undercover stuff (like Chuck started out as), or based on Adrenaline (Bryce). So she is kind of scared I think. She grew up coning ppl and was recruited at what? 16? She's never had a normal life. Not even thanks giving etc etc. I think it will take her a while to sort out that she has absolutely fallen for chuck. She knows it now too but I think she is still in denial and she will break up with him (for a change) now that he has the intersect 2.0 in his head.

I love Ellie because she is just an awesome sister to chuck. She is also the person that shines light onto what kind of a character/man chuck is as a person (and not just with the woman that he is in love with). So she is one of my favourite characters because she is very believable and annoying as a big sister. (Trust me I have one). She has the reactions a big sister has. And I love that. You rarely see a sibling relationship like Chuck/Ellie on TV. I hope I get to see more of their relationship.

I love the awesomes as well. They are not perfect but they genuinely seem to care about each other. And wont give up on each other.
Unless you know Devon turns out to be part of the ring or whatever cause seriously what is it with all the working out? And the disappearing trips to "nature" which he knows Ellie hates and wont follow him to?

Another favourite ship of mine in the show is Chuck/Casey. They make me laugh. And I mean that in a totally non slashy way. Cause I am with you there. What is with all the slash implications on TV when there are no slash implications? I am sick and tired of it!


Edited at 2009-06-01 04:46 pm (UTC)
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah01arabian on June 2nd, 2009 08:44 am (UTC)
Re: Part 1
Well welcome to the fandom. Its always nice to meet new fans.

Thank you. :)

I do wish we would know her real name though.

Yeah, I was excited when we thought her name was Jenny because my name is Jennifer, but then, of course, it's revealed that daddy made up names everywhere they went.

They did that in a show called the Pretender as well (the no real name thing) and I must tell you I wasn't a big fan of that either.

Ah, Miss Parker.

The episode I did not like though was the one with missile command. Totally pointless. Nothing to do with the story line they keep woveing so nicely as you say.

Oh, I liked that one, but I like Jeff. I also liked how we got to see Chuck being the hero. And on that note, I do think it added because Sarah believed that they should trust Chuck's instincts, while Casey didn't, but when Chuck did come through -- owing to his picking up on the Rush thing -- it showed Casey clear-proof that Chuck really is worthwhile for more than just the "Intersect" in his head. So, for me, it worked on character-developing levels. But, of course, to each their own.

You shouldn't judge Sarah so harshly about Cole. Remember she has not known anything real ever. Including a relationship. All her relationships have been either fake undercover stuff (like Chuck started out as), or based on Adrenaline (Bryce). So she is kind of scared I think. She grew up coning ppl and was recruited at what? 16? She's never had a normal life. Not even thanks giving etc etc.

I see what you're saying, but I think the writing/directing played up the attraction/wanting between them on Sarah's side way too much. And, again, I still maintain that it added nothing to the overall story arc or character development that we didn't already know.

I love Ellie because she is just an awesome sister to chuck.

I love Ellie as a character; I just don't think much of Sarah Lancaster the actress. She's alright. I think that if I liked the actress more, I'd be head over heels for Ellie.

... she is very believable and annoying as a big sister. (Trust me I have one).

Me too, which is why I do love the character and find her believable. Again, I'm just meh on the actress.

Another favourite ship of mine in the show is Chuck/Casey. They make me laugh. And I mean that in a totally non slashy way. Cause I am with you there. What is with all the slash implications on TV when there are no slash implications? I am sick and tired of it!

Obviously I agree with the latter, but I can't say that Chuck and Casey's relationship is a favorite of mine. I enjoy them, but it's a bit too cliched for me, I think.
Phibatola: Chuck Kissphibatola on June 1st, 2009 04:45 pm (UTC)
Part 2
Sorry that was getting rather long. Where was I?

Favourite Kiss the one with "Do you really want me to kiss her"? I thought that whole scene was adorable. And whats his name ... Montgomery?... wasn't fooled for a second. A very funny scnee... *Tall dark and caring what a combo* ROTFL :D. Another kick ass funny episode. I know everyone goes Gaga about the Colonel kiss scene but I did like that scene better. The thing about the motel scene that I liked was the whole hand touching foreplay before the kiss and the way they just looked at each other right before they started kissing. Goes to show you I am not the average fangirl.

The buy more gang... I love Jeffster as Jeffster but individually not so much. Jeff freaks me out. Seriously. Or rather the things they write about Jeff are so grose. And Lester on his own not as interesting I think.

I love Chuck/Morgan needs some progressing cause they have left that aside I think. Didn't you feel we were missing it in Season 2?

Also about Morgan... his character I think is progressing very slowly. I mean there are no shocks about what he is going to do. Unlike Chuck or Casey he does NOT surprise me. You know he is going to buy the general lee, you know he is going to show up at anna's parents trying to be something he is not... I just wish they would so something with his character that was not so predictable.

I like big mike. He is fun.

Ass Man I do not like as a character (although I do like the actor) and Anna leaves me cold so I won't mind if we see less of her in the future.

The General is fun to watch I like how exasperated she gets with Chuck. I find it interesting that she is now the boss of both Sarah and Casey when Sarah's boss died in that explosion and they did not replace him. Remember in the pilot (although played by someone else) the General was Casey's boss.

One thing I do LOVE that we lost is the wienerlicious I never liked that place and/or the outfit they had Yvonne in. I was glad to see it go. The thing about Yvonne's portrayal of Sarah... she does not need to dress like that coming out of the wardrobe department to look pretty. I think she looks much better with her new outfit and in the orange orange (which lets face it is probably going to be replaced with a Subway sandwich). Sarah is smart and capable and beautiful and does not need to dress in a demeaning outfit like the weinerlicious outfit.

However you are entitled to your opinion. I am not saying this to start an argument. I was merely pointing out my opinion because your comment on it was quite long. I totally respect your opinion. I am just stating mine... not inflicting it or anything.

I hope we lose that terrible Buy more outfit of chucks as well. I love it when he dresses in long sleeved shirts or whatever. I really dislike his outfit too but I am not keeping my hopes up. Especially now that they are cutting the budget...

Speaking of Sarah one relationship you did not mention adn I would like your take on (in a non slashy way)- unless you find it slashy - is Sarah/Ellie. Cause as far and apart their scenes are I love them. I wish we could get more of them. Ellie is such a fangirl of Sarah's don't you think? I love how she is rooting for her brother to end up with sarah and scolds him when he breaks up with her.

Is Bryce really dead? In that case why would the bad guys drag his body out of the room? Too bad because i loved the bryce episodes. He will be missed. Totally believable as super hunk spy. *Drool*. Would have no problem picking Bryce over Chuck...

Characters that got on my nerves very much. The Woodcombs. Woody and Honey? How the hell did they produce Awesome? Is he adopted or something?

Well that is all I can say without boring you to death (in case you haven't died already of boredom).

Arabian: Chuck & Sarah02arabian on June 2nd, 2009 08:50 am (UTC)
Re: Part 2
Favourite Kiss the one with "Do you really want me to kiss her"? I thought that whole scene was adorable. And whats his name ... Montgomery?... wasn't fooled for a second. A very funny scnee... *Tall dark and caring what a combo* ROTFL :D.

Oh, I agree that was a fabulous scene, and probably their hottest kiss, technically speaking.

I love Chuck/Morgan needs some progressing cause they have left that aside I think. Didn't you feel we were missing it in Season 2?

I thought that was intentional, though. Chuck not being there so much -- because of Sarah and the spy-duties, mostly the spy-duties -- is what helped Morgan realize he needs to stand on his own.

Also about Morgan... his character I think is progressing very slowly. I mean there are no shocks about what he is going to do. Unlike Chuck or Casey he does NOT surprise me. You know he is going to buy the general lee, you know he is going to show up at anna's parents trying to be something he is not... I just wish they would so something with his character that was not so predictable.

Oh, I disagree. Look at him in the beginning of season one, and then by the end of season two, he's got a special relationship with Big Mike, had essentially become the leader that Chuck was with Chuck gone so much now. It was Morgan that they turned to to handle things, Morgan who they listened to. And then, of course, he quit the Buy More to pursue his dream. I think there were huge steps with Morgan, as well as well-crafted unpredictability.

One thing I do LOVE that we lost is the wienerlicious I never liked that place and/or the outfit they had Yvonne in. I was glad to see it go.

Oh, I didn't find the outfit demeaning at all. It was a peasant blouse top, with a cute, flirty skirt. The FroYo outfit to me is so generic and boringly-sexy, whereas the Weinerlicious was sasy and flirty-fun sexy. I loved it. Doesn't matter either way, though, cuz, yeah, it'll likely be Subway.

I hope we lose that terrible Buy more outfit of chucks as well. I love it when he dresses in long sleeved shirts or whatever. I really dislike his outfit too but I am not keeping my hopes up. Especially now that they are cutting the budget...

Yeah, it would be nice to see Chuck (with his Stanford degree) actually get a better job, but with the budget cuts, I dunno.

Speaking of Sarah one relationship you did not mention adn I would like your take on (in a non slashy way)- unless you find it slashy - is Sarah/Ellie.

Unless, there is ACTUALLY subtext, I don't find stuff slashy. I like their scenes; I don't love them, but I like them. I guess i don't think much of their relationship because, to me, it's not "their" relationship. It's Ellie and Chuck's relationship with Sarah as the lens, if that makes sense.

Is Bryce really dead? In that case why would the bad guys drag his body out of the room? Too bad because i loved the bryce episodes. He will be missed.

Oh, I missed them dragging his body out, oops. Then, yeah, he might not be.

Well that is all I can say without boring you to death (in case you haven't died already of boredom).

I like long posts. :D
Phibatola: Chuck Shoesphibatola on June 1st, 2009 05:29 pm (UTC)
Favourite fanvid. Not Charah but still.
darabreshears on June 2nd, 2009 08:57 am (UTC)
here's some of the chuck/sarah fic i've found that i like/love, most of which are in the pg-13 to "oh god if my mom ever finds out i read smutty fanfic i will just DIE" range:

Solace by Neotantrika
cool fic, awesome writer. also has written some fab office fic.

Falling by Neotantrika
seriously, i think she's awesome.

Five Times Chuck and Sarah share a bed for their cover (and one time they just do) by blueeyelinerx
it's got some spy stuff, they go to a wedding, crash at the buy more and there is also a super duper fluffy ending.

One Part Princess Leia, Two Parts Terminator by pirateygoodness
mostly just some fun smut, but it's so in character and the repeating line just about kills me every time.

Chuck and Sarah watch a porno by YELLAH
BWAHAHAHAHA
harper47harper47 on June 3rd, 2009 09:32 am (UTC)
Epic post Jennifer.

I love this show but I don't ship Chuck and Sarah at all. Weird. I just enjoy the "fun" of this show. So much joy in most of the storylines and the love everyone has for each other is superb. I love Casey and Awesome so much.

I'm glad you went back and gave it a second chance. I always thought you would like Sarah - you do usually like feisty blonde women leads.
Arabian: Chuck & Sarah01arabian on June 3rd, 2009 09:43 am (UTC)
LOL! I do like the blondes, LOL!

Yeah, I remembered that you didn't ship them at all. Oh well. So I guess our big difference with this is that I ship Chuck/Sarah (and it's mini-obsession mode now), and you adore Casey. Not a bad trade-off considering, LOL!