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08 February 2009 @ 10:07 pm
Doctor Who 1x13 "The Parting of the Ways" rewatch-review  
As I've stated elsewhere, once I finished season two of New Who, I was going to rewatch and review what I call my "Her Name was Rose" collection (click here for the full list of episodes). I know it's been over two months since I did the rewatch-review for Bad Wolf, but with real life happenings and, more especially, the knowledge that after this there was no more Nine, no more Christopher Eccleston, I've been delaying doing this one.

Oh heck, it has nothing to do with real life, I just didn't want to say goodbye to Nine yet. *Sigh* I do adore the Ninth Doctor so. I've been a fan of Eccleston for years, but this show, his performance as the Doctor made me absolutely love him. *Double sigh* But here we are, at last ...

This was very good, yes, but it was as I remembered in terms of quality, as opposed to "Boom Town" and "Bad Wolf" being so much spectactularly better. Still, very good is not the jaw-dropping splendor of the last two episodes; honestly, I'm not quite sure why it didn't *hit* me completely. The only thing that I can think of is the power of the Daleks showing up and their grand scheme just doesn't affect me as someone who never watched Classic Who? I don't know; I just know that during the Dalek denouement scenes where we get the whole plot, etc. I wasn't captured. Oh well. Still that was just plot and we all know that plot isn't Russell T Davies' forte. It's characters and the beats of the over-reaching arc in which he excels. And he did so here.

Now, I don't want the implication to be that I didn't think this was an excellent episode -- because it most definitely was, it's just that after not expecting so much from the previous two and then being completely blown away, it's rather impossible to not be let down that yet again I didn't get something so much more than I expected. Or rather what I did expect. Because "Boom Town" and, especially, "Bad Wolf" were so much better than I remembered, I couldn't help but expect that such would be the case with "The Parting of the Ways." As it is, it's a solid episode, with strong acting, a satisfying end to the series and a worthy goodbye to the Ninth Doctor.

Perhaps that's it right there: Why I can't see this episode as outstanding as the ones before it. It's the end of the Ninth Doctor and I loved him so much. When I first watched Doctor Who, I was so devastated by Eccleston's morphing into a different actor in a column of fire that it took me two full years before I would even attempt to watch the second series. So I can't view this episode without prejudice. "The Parting of the Ways" will always be the episode where I lost *my* Doctor, as much as I love Ten and David Tennant, Nine is my Doctor and Christopher Eccleston so beautifully and brilliantly brought him to life. ::Sobs::

Ahem, okay, moving on from my grief ... Speaking of Eccleston, I have to say I was a wee bit disappointed that there really were no moments/scenes of outstanding acting prowess of him in this episode as opposed to the last two, but I suppose it makes sense. That's not to say, of course, that he's not fantastic with everything he is given. The big moments, the little moments in between those, of course, he's amazing, but they were subtle things, they weren't scenes that showcased him. It was more a brilliant matter of course because he's just that good. Instead, the last two episodes were about who he is now, who he's become because of Rose, and so now the spotlight was on her because she's carrying on. And this one brought it all full-circle in showing not only just how far Rose has come, but in how that brilliance has been there from day one. In the first episode of the series, "Rose", she was the focus as was her aimlessness and relationships with Jackie and Mickey and how the Doctor brought a new sense of purpose to her life. And, of course, he took that chance on her because of her smarts, her instincts, who she was ... and he was rewarded in a way he never could have imagined.

You know, Steven Moffat can have all of his mind-readers, and name-knowers, and whatever else he has up his sleeve for series five and beyond with regards to love interests for the Doctor, but you can't top Rose. You just can not. She looked into the heart of the TARDIS, willingly choosing to fly back into a fight with thousands of Daleks all for the Doctor. And it wasn't about the travel, or the experiences. No, it was about how the Doctor made her a better person, showed her a better life. She found not only a sense of purpose with him, but happiness. And, watching this episode again, specifically hearing this dialogue:
... it was a better life. And I, I don't mean all the traveling and ... seeing aliens and spaceships and things -- that don't matter. The Doctor showed me a better way of living your life.
That right there! I heard that and, thought -- for the first time -- I'm glad they cut the TARDIS coral scene from "Journey's End," because right there, when it was still her first Doctor, Rose flat-out said that it wasn't about the travel, the aliens, the experience, the adventure ... it was about the Doctor and the life he'd shown her. They don't need the TARDIS to be the Doctor and Rose. They just need ... the Doctor and Rose.

*Sigh* And this episode was Rose fully waking up to that fact, absolute in her love and belief in her love for the Doctor. When she woke up on the TARDIS floor to see him standing before her and it was just the two of them -- as it's meant to be -- the joy on her face was lovely. ::SQUEE:: Oh, she loves him so.



And he knows it now. Yes, he does. In "Bad Wolf," when the Doctor told Rose that he was coming to get her, the look on Rose's face in that exact moment showed that Rose realized she loved him, absolutely. And in this episode, when Rose looks down at the Doctor and says ...
I want you safe. My Doctor.
... he realizes that she loves him. Absolutely. I know that there's discussion whether it was Rose or the TARDIS talking through Rose, but after listening to the specific words and phrases used during the entire time she had the time vortex in her, I do believe it was Rose speaking. It was just a Rose speaking with the knowledge of the TARDIS within her, but it was Rose. And the Doctor knew it. Just look at the expression on his face.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)


Going back a bit, another bit of proof that it was in "Bad Wolf" that Rose made that realization of her love is that for the first time, she's jealous of another woman with relation to the Doctor. Of course, I'm talking about Lynda. When they first meet and when the Doctor and Lynda say goodbye, it's there, but my favorite moment of Rose's jealousy is actually the least romantically-tinged moment of the lot. After the Doctor comes up with his Delta Wave plan, Rose is about to cheer him on to get started, but Lynda speaks up first and the look of Rose's face is hysterical. It's so ... 'but, that's *my* line! He's *my* Doctor!' Heh, Billie Piper cracks me up. I haven't mentioned it in any of these rewatch-reviews, but I've mentioned it numerous times in my posts about Secret Diary of a Call Girl, it's a shame that we saw so little of Billie's awesome comic timing on Who. This scene was one of the rare, small examples of it.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)

I let the scene run on a bit after that moment specifically because of the Doctor's grin at the end there. Oh, how I love that manic grin of his. Damn, I still miss him. *Sigh*

Ahem, moving along. I mentioned above how this was more Rose-focused and it was, allowing for some lovely, lovely moments for Billie Piper to shine. Like with the last couple of episodes which allowed so many different situations for Eccleston to emote, "The Parting of the Ways" did the same for Piper. There were moments of relief, of happiness, of sorrow, anger, frustration, of jealousy, as previously noted ;). And then there was Bad Wolf. I loved how we saw that it was clearly Rose -- driven by her love for the Doctor -- but that it was also clearly a Rose who had a more powerful, less, well, chavvy presence -- driven by knowledge of the universe -- running through her. The deliberate-ness of her speaking, the articulation of her words, the inflections and control, all of it was beautifully done by Piper. And yet, even with Bad Wolf, I have to say that my favorite acting by her done here was the scene between Jackie and Rose where they discuss Pete. Remembering that episode, and how the story of Pete's death changed for the better because of the Doctor's love for Rose made me teary-eyed.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)

But more than those individual moments and scenes, there was Rose growing up. There was a maturity about her -- for the most part, that we saw in full bloom here. There were simple things, like how it never occurred to her to ask the Doctor to take them away from the problem. She jokingly said she's "just too good," but the truth is that yes, she is just a truly good person. Her mind just doesn't think of running away and leaving others to suffer. So, of course, she's not going to run away and leave the Doctor -- of all people! -- to suffer.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)

She made her choices and stuck by them, and would not be dissuaded by the Doctor, by Jackie or Mickey. Rose Tyler knows who she is now and she knows what she wants and that is to be with the Doctor ... even if it means death because she can't leave him, just like she knew he wouldn't leave her. And Piper portrayed that throughout the entire episode. Once back at the Powell Estates, she was ever only lost and immature-sounding at one point after Jackie told her that Pete would have just let it go. She began to give up, and she did sound lost and confused. Fortunately, all of the time she'd spent before -- whether in anger, sadness or frustration -- had been so marked with conviction that neither Mickey or Jackie were willing to let her give up now.

Which was nice coming from Jackie. I think that what happened here and why Jackie changed her mind is that she realized that even though she was grateful that the Doctor kept Rose safe and sent her back, he'd taken the choice from her. Listening to and seeing the person Rose has become fully hit her when Rose told her about Pete, it was a wake-up call that Rose is not a little girl anymore. She was there, holding her father's hand in death, showing a strength that Jackie may have been unaware of that Rose even possessed. And so Jackie accepted that her daughter wasn't a child any more, but a woman with her own mind, her own convictions and one who knew and understand love. Reminding her of Pete, the man that Jackie loved, and seeing Rose's pain over the man that *she* loved was another push, and one that made sense.

Alas, Mickey's character didn't quite come out smelling so nicely. Yes, he helped Rose get back, but the fact that he sat there listening to her mourning the loss of another man, and still suggested that she could have a life with him ... Especially after the events of "Boom Town," oh Mickey, let her go, dude. Just let her go and grow a spine. She loves the Doctor. Really, she does.

And that was the the over-arcing theme of this episode to me, really: The love that the Doctor and Rose have for one another. He was so desperate to save her, he went so far as to lie to her face to trick her into the TARDIS. And, oh, that devastation on his face when he sent her away; as much as we saw that she loved him after he did this, we saw it here from him.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)

Then, of course, came her realization as to what he had done. Her stunned disbelief, a slight uncomprehending air as she watched the emergency program1 and then how she was galvanized into action, trying to get the TARDIS to take her back to him.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)

As much as I love the Doctor's words to her, my favorite part of this, honestly, is the "take me back." When I first watched "Doomsday," I didn't catch it, but when I rewatched this episode the first time, I realized that Rose used that exact same phrase after Pete took her into the alternate universe. Crying out, she said "Take me back," just as she had here. In hindsight, lovely, heartbreaking parallel there that Davies wrote. And not the only one. The look on the Doctor's face when he sends the TARDIS away is almost identical to the look on his face when he places the dimension-hopper button on Rose in "Doomsday." In fact, it's so eerily similar that I wonder if David Tennant deliberately patterned his facial expression upon Eccleston's in that first moment when the Doctor sent Rose away for her safety. If so, good call because that look -- as seen in the previous clip above -- is indeed devastating in its portrayal of loss, but one that must take place for her greater good. If not, then damn, yet more proof that the casting of Ten was excellent.

Ahem, back to "The Parting of the Ways" and Nine and why Nine became Ten: Because of his love for Rose. The question really isn't whether the Doctor would have essentially killed himself for anyone other than Rose as he does here, but rather would anyone else do what Rose did which would lead the Doctor to do what he did? I think not. The bottom-line is that these two would live and die for each other. But hey, what a way for Nine to go.

K-I-S-S-I-N-G Rose.

Yeah, yeah, okay so he was just taking the time vortex from her, whatever, Rusty. It was totally partially an excuse to kiss Rose as John Barrowman said in the Confidential: "When he kisses her, it's not only the thing that he's wanted to do throughout the entire series, but it gives him peace because he's letting go of the burden of the Time Lords being destroyed and he's saving the one that he -- he loved the Time lords, they were his people -- but he loves, he loves this girl." Yes, there were other factors, but he wanted to kiss her; he did.

And so ... he did.



And it was beautiful.

(View the clip via imeem or download it via mediafire here.)

There's so much love, so much ... tenderness there. All of it, all that is clipped above just makes the heart swoon. The fact that Rose has seen what he deals with all the time -- even if it's mostly gone, I find it hard to believe that the sense of it, some intangible memory doesn't remain, the Doctor's oh-so-cheesy, "I think you need a Doctor" which is so very Doctor-ish, the kiss -- the beautiful kiss itself, the smile on his face after he's returned the time vortex to where it belongs, and the tender way he holds her before and after, stroking her hair and throat.



It's just ... beautiful.

Oh, and, yes, that means that despite an earlier statement, I'm totally fine with the "I think you need a Doctor" line now. Yes, it's cheesy, but it's deliberately so because it *is* the Doctor, he does crack lame quips in heightened moments and paired with the romantic, swelling music it is absolutely perfect.

Phew! Okay, some random comments and then I'm almost done with series one. First off, a few more Doctor/Rose mentions ...

- First off, so sad. The last Nine/Rose episode and there's nary a handporn! shot in sight. *Sigh* Also sad ... their reunion hug was really not impressively done. Far away shot, no rush to get to one another, and when we did get a closer view it was shrouded in smoke. I'm a tad disappointed that our last Nine/Rose hug was so lackluster. Ah well, hey, at least from this screencap it looks really romantic!



- Heh, I love how Rose nodded in agreement when the Doctor told her that he was fantastic at the end there. Hee! :D

- I have to say that I absolutely adore that the last thing, the last moment when the Doctor was still in his Ninth regeneration before the process started ... the last thing that he and Rose shared were smiles. See ...





*Sigh*

Now, onto just random notes about "The Parting of the Ways."

- Technically, this could/sorta fall under the Doctor/Rose section but I don't wanna put it there, so, it's here. So, yeah, I didn't have a problem with the Doctor and Lynda in "Bad Wolf," but dude what was up with half-bending down to kiss her cheek or something!? In front of Rose?!? Seriously, Doctor. Tsk, tsk.

- It was sweet how both the Doctor, and even Jack, were almost contentedly resigned to death because they believed that Rose was safe. Awww.

- Too bad, in Jack's case, neither of the other two shared that sentiment. The Doctor was all about Rose and her safety before and after Bad Wolf; and Rose was all about the Doctor's safety, not even asking about Jack post-Bad Wolf and the Dalek situation. She had her Doctor back, they were safe aboard the TARDIS and all was good. Well, until he caught on fire and turned into someone else.

- Hmm, I rather wished they hadn't gone into full-on explanation/flashback mode for the heart of the TARDIS recall from "Boom Town." I think that viewers are smart enough that they would have remembered that on their own. After all, part of the brilliance of that episode, in my opinion, was how it nicely set this up. Ah, well.

- Heh, the TARIDS hurtling through space is just funny to me. That's how it flies. When it's in the time vortex, it's different, that looks ... normal, for lack of a better word. But to see it just spinning quickly in a straight line through regular space is just funny.

- You know, I was fine with Pattersen Joseph being the Doctor after "Bad Wolf," but after this one? Yeah, I'm glad it's not him now.

- Speaking of other Doctors, oh, Tennant, how I was devastated by your appearance when I first saw this. Now, I couldn't help but grin at your grin even through my tears.

- Once again, I liked the two programmers. Their one little flirty scene was adorable and it was sad when they too died. Oh, Rusty. You and your love of killing off your one-offs.

- Look at me, praising John Barrowman again! The expression on his face as the TARDIS disappeared was a perfect mix of frustration, anguish and comprehension. Nicely done.

- Speaking of praise, I really love how Billie Piper says the line: "You are tiny," to the Dalek God. It's just chilling.

- Here we go with one last Nine picspam because Christopher Eccleston, to me, is really quite, quite yummy!















And finally, here are his last pre-regeneration-process moments with such a perfect final line, because ...


(Or download it via mediafire here.)

Yes, you were fantastic!

*Sigh* Thus ends the Ninth Doctor's run. Excuse me while I sob not-so-quietly in the corner in renewed mourning.



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Diana: Goddess -- Rose Tylerbutterfly on February 9th, 2009 09:27 am (UTC)
*gives you comfort hug over the end of Nine*

Ten may be my Doctor, but Nine was pretty awesome.

They don't need the TARDIS to be the Doctor and Rose. They just need ... the Doctor and Rose.

Exactly! She doesn't love the Doctor because of where he can take her, she loves him because of who he is.

The parallels between PotW and DD have always killed me. The 'take me back' and the look on the Doctor's face... sigh. He can't let the people he loves dies when there's a chance he might save them, even if that means he'll never see them again (what he does to Donna is another example of this).

Billie Piper does such a wonderful job in this episode.
Arabian: Dr Who (10) - One Heartarabian on February 13th, 2009 12:52 am (UTC)
I had completely forgotten the line about Rose not needing the aliens and adventure, but just the Doctor and so it was wonderful seeing yet another line of foreshadowing for what happened in Journey's End.
Pervy Nine Fancier: ninerosekiss--meganlynhonorh on February 9th, 2009 12:19 pm (UTC)
I absolutely love the last few episodes of 1st season, and even more, I love the perfect unity and symmetry of the whole season. A life begun in destruction and complete isolation ends in an act of love. The beautiful expression of peace on the Doctor's face after he lets go of the Time Vortex says it all. He sacrificed his eighth life in the ultimate act of war, trading his people's lives for the safety of the universe. He sacrifices his ninth life saving one girl who loves him and whom he loves.

On to other things. I actually do think Mickey ends up coming out well. Sure, he had his moment of, "Well, might as well give up on the Doctor, how about me?" But later, when Rose is feeling dejected and ready to give up, he won't let her and keeps thinking of solutions.

I love the cast/Julie Gardner commentary for this one. JB is so cutely enthusiastic, and Billie's so darn sweet. Also, I totally wish there were a video of JB jumping CE and snogging the life out of him.

The kiss between Nine and Rose is unspeakably beautiful. The tenderness of it, the intimacy, the way he cradles her against his body as she falls--I have no words. It's one of those perfect moments you so rarely see on television. And I love the way he touches her afterward, as if she's infinitely precious to him.

I miss Nine, too. I'll miss Ten when he goes, but Nine is my Doctor and always will be.
Arabian: Dr Whoarabian on February 13th, 2009 12:58 am (UTC)
I absolutely love the last few episodes of 1st season, and even more, I love the perfect unity and symmetry of the whole season. A life begun in destruction and complete isolation ends in an act of love.
So very true. I have to admit that after reading some of these comments, I really wish I'd waited even more before doing this rewatch because I *should* have rewatched "Bad Wolf" again, and really given myself the time to just explore the whole thing, but I was focused on getting it done and just focusing on this episode and I should have looked at it from the point of view of the whole season. But then, I suppose with these comments, it's not necessary because this one line here just really nailed what I would have rambled on about for three or four paragraphs.
The beautiful expression of peace on the Doctor's face after he lets go of the Time Vortex says it all. He sacrificed his eighth life in the ultimate act of war, trading his people's lives for the safety of the universe. He sacrifices his ninth life saving one girl who loves him and whom he loves.
I know!! I loved that look on his face; and it's just, it really is beautifully. He gave up his life, but he did it with contentment and for the absolute right reasons.
On to other things. I actually do think Mickey ends up coming out well. Sure, he had his moment of, "Well, might as well give up on the Doctor, how about me?" But later, when Rose is feeling dejected and ready to give up, he won't let her and keeps thinking of solutions.
True, but I was so 'ugh!' when he had that line.
I love the cast/Julie Gardner commentary for this one. JB is so cutely enthusiastic, and Billie's so darn sweet. Also, I totally wish there were a video of JB jumping CE and snogging the life out of him.
I actually haven't seen much of it just portions because I came into watching the series so late.
The kiss between Nine and Rose is unspeakably beautiful. The tenderness of it, the intimacy, the way he cradles her against his body as she falls--I have no words. It's one of those perfect moments you so rarely see on television. And I love the way he touches her afterward, as if she's infinitely precious to him.
Yes, yes, yes. I just adore it all ... every moment from beginning to end is just so full of love and adoration. And like you said, tenderness and intimacy. It's so beautiful.
I miss Nine, too. I'll miss Ten when he goes, but Nine is my Doctor and always will be.
Yuppers. That's me, too.
Tarot: My Doctorbigbadwolfeboro on February 9th, 2009 02:30 pm (UTC)
Nine is my Doctor and Christopher Eccleston so beautifully and brilliantly brought him to life. ::Sobs::

Couldn't have put that any better than you did there. Nine is sorely missed and I still have a hard time watching these last 2 episodes because of that. Lovely review.
Arabian: Dr Who (Nine)arabian on February 13th, 2009 12:59 am (UTC)
Yeah, coming to these episodes, it's just, I can appreciate them for their quality, but they'll never not be bittersweet because this is it of Nine. :(
Tarot: My Doctorbigbadwolfeboro on February 13th, 2009 03:09 am (UTC)
I can't watch POTW without crying when Nine regenerates either.
sundance201: nine rose prettysundance201 on February 9th, 2009 02:58 pm (UTC)
Oh this was just a great review. You highlighted all my favourite moments of this brilliant episode. :) I was especially glad that you pointed out how tender he is with her after he breathes the Vortex back into the TARDIS, because that's probably hands down, one of my favourite moments of series 1. It's just so intimate and just such a beautiful moment.....*sighs*

Nine is my Doctor and I still miss him terribly...so you're not alone. :)
Arabian: Dr Who (9)arabian on February 13th, 2009 01:01 am (UTC)
I was especially glad that you pointed out how tender he is with her after he breathes the Vortex back into the TARDIS, because that's probably hands down, one of my favourite moments of series 1. It's just so intimate and just such a beautiful moment.....*sighs*
Wasn't it? I just, oh, the way that Eccleston plays it, you can completely see just how absolutely precious Rose is to the Doctor. He loves her so much. *sigh*
Nine is my Doctor and I still miss him terribly...so you're not alone. :)
Not to put down Tennant, because I do love Ten, but oh Eccleston and Nine were just so perfect.

Thanks for replying. :)
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Arabian: Dr Who (9)arabian on February 13th, 2009 01:10 am (UTC)
Aww, thank you, I'm glad you've liked them. Itsn't analyzing so much fun!?! It's awesome. Alas, no more Nine after this -- although, fear not, I'll still manage to bring him up now and then in the series two-four rewatch-reviews, LOL!
nina_dS: Doctor Who remember menina_ds on February 9th, 2009 04:15 pm (UTC)
I've missed a lot of these because my Aug-Dec of 2008 were insanely busy, and now I come back at what, for me, is a very difficult yet much beloved episode. I have this passive-aggressive love for it, in that it's about to make me cry repeatedly (the only tv show/movie that still sends me into sobs at at least two distinct points, but which now has added oomph because I know what comes after…) but I still think it's a case of acting trumping rickety plot in a tremendous way.

While I can see why you think it's not as plotty/tight as the previous couple of episodes, the way I think of it is that it's not got a plot of its own, it's the denouement of both the last trio of stories and the entire series — so we've passed the "crisis" at the end of "Bad Wolf" (and he does rescue Rose really quickly at the beginning of POTW), so it's all unwinding and resolving in this episode, which makes it feel less dynamic than in previous episodes. But I'm glad we get a chance to explore the feelings; I think this is still by far the most successful of the series finales, in large part because it does take time to explore the emotional terrain, with acting that really convinces me, and isn't just throwing action at us.

I agree that it's Rose's story, as a reflection of the entire series, but I think that it's also the resolution of The Doctor's/Nine's arc. He has already said that blessed line, "I would make a very bad god," and here he has to make a decision between destroying everything again (a choice he's made before, which nearly destroyed him and yet didn't win him anything in the end) and being a coward — which, in this situation, is a brave choice. He's as suicidal here as he is in "Rose," but the difference is enormous. He's serene in his choice (I also disagree a wee bit, in that I think there are some tremendous moments of acting from Eccleston, as always, but they're small and subtle — like the relaxation of his face and throat when he closes his eyes to accept his fate, or the aforementioned exhausted but satisfied smile as he exhales the Vortex, or the tenderness as he lays Rose down, or the pain and fear in his voice when he screams "No!" when she tries to touch him).

The Emergency Protocol One scene absolutely kills me, particularly the line about letting the TARDIS fall to dust; and then the final sequence, the way that he's trying to make it easier on Rose, but having so much trouble holding it together. This is one I now have more trouble with than I did the first time, when I felt it was a hopeful end; now, I have to turn it off during the regeneration scene, and I feel a lot less completed by it now, but at the time, I thought (and still think, abstractly), this is the best mini-series television's ever produced. S1 is a whole thing unto itself, and just stunning, even with its admitted RTDish flaws.
erikssiren: Kisserikssiren on February 9th, 2009 06:06 pm (UTC)
I think I need to go watch Season One now! I love Christopher Eccleston so much and even though David is brilliant, I will always think of CE as my Doctor.

The look on the Doctor's face when he sends the TARDIS away is almost identical to the look on his face when he places the dimension-hopper button on Rose in "Doomsday." In fact, it's so eerily similar that I wonder if David Tennant deliberately patterned his facial expression upon Eccleston's in that first moment when the Doctor sent Rose away for her safety.

I saw that too! The first time I watched "Doomsday." At first I thought I was just reading too much into it but then I watched both episodes again and it is the exact same look. I did a Rose/Doctor picspam months ago and put that in there because it is just too eerie and awesome not to mention.
Arabian: Dr Who (9) - FDarabian on February 13th, 2009 01:13 am (UTC)
I think I need to go watch Season One now! I love Christopher Eccleston so much and even though David is brilliant, I will always think of CE as my Doctor.
It's ALWAYS fun to go back and rewatch S1. And, yes, David is brilliant, but oh, I adore Eccleston and Nine is MY Doctor.
The look on the Doctor's face when he sends the TARDIS away is almost identical to the look on his face when he places the dimension-hopper button on Rose in "Doomsday." In fact, it's so eerily similar that I wonder if David Tennant deliberately patterned his facial expression upon Eccleston's in that first moment when the Doctor sent Rose away for her safety.
I saw that too! The first time I watched "Doomsday." At first I thought I was just reading too much into it but then I watched both episodes again and it is the exact same look. I did a Rose/Doctor picspam months ago and put that in there because it is just too eerie and awesome not to mention.
Yeah, I didn't actually notice it until someone put it in a video and I was like WHOAH! So I actually went and watched the scenes in whole and it's just so awesome. Again, I don't know if Tennant deliberately did it, or if they casting was just THAT good!
Arabian: Christopher Eccleston_02arabian on February 9th, 2009 07:02 pm (UTC)
I've missed a lot of these because my Aug-Dec of 2008 were insanely busy, and now I come back at what, for me, is a very difficult yet much beloved episode.
Hey, I've been wondering where you are :)
I have this passive-aggressive love for it, in that it's about to make me cry repeatedly (the only tv show/movie that still sends me into sobs at at least two distinct points, but which now has added oomph because I know what comes after…) but I still think it's a case of acting trumping rickety plot in a tremendous way.
I agree about the acting, but I do like the plot, I just don't think it pops as it could have.
While I can see why you think it's not as plotty/tight as the previous couple of episodes, the way I think of it is that it's not got a plot of its own, it's the denouement of both the last trio of stories and the entire series — so we've passed the "crisis" at the end of "Bad Wolf" (and he does rescue Rose really quickly at the beginning of POTW), so it's all unwinding and resolving in this episode, which makes it feel less dynamic than in previous episodes.
I commented above to honorh that I should have rewatched "Bad Wolf" again before watching this simply because it HAD been two months since I watched BW and I think I may have done the episode itself a bit of a disservice.
I agree that it's Rose's story, as a reflection of the entire series, but I think that it's also the resolution of The Doctor's/Nine's arc.
Yes, that's true and something that honorh and I'm kinda annoyed at myself for missing that.
He has already said that blessed line, "I would make a very bad god," and here he has to make a decision between destroying everything again (a choice he's made before, which nearly destroyed him and yet didn't win him anything in the end) and being a coward — which, in this situation, is a brave choice.
And we also had key points in BT that lead to decisions here as I mentioned in that review, but completely forgot when doing this one.
honorhHe's as suicidal here as he is in "Rose," but the difference is enormous. He's serene in his choice </blockquote> Yes, that's absolutely true. There's a peace with how he handles it that is just lovely.
honorhI also disagree a wee bit, in that I think there are some tremendous moments of acting from Eccleston, as always, but they're small and subtle — like the relaxation of his face and throat when he closes his eyes to accept his fate, or the aforementioned exhausted but satisfied smile as he exhales the Vortex, or the tenderness as he lays Rose down, or the pain and fear in his voice when he screams "No!" when she tries to touch him).</blockquote> Oh, no I didn't mean to imply that there wasn't amazing acting from Eccleston, there were just no BIG acting moments written for Nine in this one. I don't know how I forgot but I DID mean to have a section that does talk about how brilliant CE was, despite the lack of "big acting" moments here. Because, of course, he was. So I did go back and edit in this: That's not to say, of course, that he's not fantastic with everything he is given. The big moments, the little moments in between those, of course, he's amazing, but they were subtle things, they weren't scenes that showcased him. It was more a brilliant matter of course because he's just that good.

The Emergency Protocol One scene absolutely kills me, particularly the line about letting the TARDIS fall to dust; and then the final sequence, the way that he's trying to make it easier on Rose, but having so much trouble holding it together. This is one I now have more trouble with than I did the first time, when I felt it was a hopeful end; now, I have to turn it off during the regeneration scene, and I feel a lot less completed by it now, but at the time, I thought (and still think, abstractly), this is the best mini-series television's ever produced. S1 is a whole thing unto itself, and just stunning, even with its admitted RTDish flaws.

Nice to see you back, and, hey, if you have time to go back and share your thoughts about the other ones, I'd love to hear what you think.

Edited at 2009-02-13 01:09 am (UTC)
killingfrost87killingfrost87 on February 9th, 2009 05:57 pm (UTC)
OK, Dont have time for a full response now, but i'll be back

I never noticed that bit with Lynda before, thats SO true. Billie really is great with giving off emotion using only facial expressions
Arabian: Billie Piper_06arabian on February 13th, 2009 01:15 am (UTC)
OK, Dont have time for a full response now, but i'll be back
Oh, I look forward to reading your full thoughts.
I never noticed that bit with Lynda before, thats SO true. Billie really is great with giving off emotion using only facial expressions
I was just cracking up and I laugh every time I rewatch it. Loves! Billie is the awesome!
faith5by5_1013: Doctor Who: Nine/Rose: Kissfaith5by5_1013 on February 9th, 2009 06:13 pm (UTC)
I know I'm going to have a lot to comment about because this is tied for my favorite episode. So I'm kind of just commenting as I read. I hope it'll be more coherent that way.

It's completely understandable that you delayed doing this one. I remember delaying watching it the first time because I wasn't ready to say goodbye to Nine and then delaying watching series 2 because I didn't want to accept it. I agree with you. As much as I love Ten, Nine will always be my Doctor.

I also remember crying through most of Bad Wolf and just bawling through this entire episode and for a long time after it. While I cry easily, I rarely cry that hard for that long.

And this episode was Rose fully waking up to that fact, absolute in her love and belief in her love for the Doctor. When she woke up on the TARDIS floor to see him standing before her and it was just the two of them -- as it's meant to be -- the joy on her face was lovely. ::SQUEE:: Oh, she loves him so.

*agrees* I've said it before and I'll say it again, I just cannot understand people who don't believe Rose loves Nine. It's so obvious and beautiful and it just kills me.

I'm sitting here trying not to cry as I read your review.

And in this episode, when Rose looks down at the Doctor and says "I want you safe. My Doctor," he realizes that she loves him. Absolutely.

I didn't actually think of that before and I'm so glad you pointed that out! I've been wanting to rewatch this episode for a while but avoiding it because of how upsetting it is, but now I'm going to have to rewatch all of it tonight and have a good, long cry.

And that was the the over-arcing theme of this episode to me, really: The love that the Doctor and Rose have for one another. He was so desperate to save her, he went so far as to lie to her face to trick her into the TARDIS. And, oh, that devastation on his face when he sent her away; as much as we saw that she loved him after he did this, we saw it here from him.

Exactly! I don't think I've ever seen two characters who I believe love each other as completely as the Doctor and Rose. And the look on his face when he sends her away just kills me. As does everything he says in that emergency program recording and the look on her face as she realizes what's going on. And her desperation to get back to him.

I think their decision to cast Tennant as Ten was perfect because I think they needed someone who can be as completely charming and lovable as he can be (even though I hated him for that at first). For those of us who loved Nine, I think they really needed someone who could both have moments where he seems like Nine and someone who the viewers can't not love, you know? Otherwise, I think a lot of us would have stopped watching. I know you did for a while and, for me, the only reasons I didn't were because I loved Rose so much and because my friend who told me to watch it specifically said I had to watch seasons 2-4. We've only seen each other once since she told me I'd love DW and we discussed Tennant (and Rose, Martha, and Donna), but I have to remember to ask her how she felt about Eccleston the next time I see her.

Because of his love for Rose. The question really isn't whether the Doctor would have essentially killed himself for anyone other than Rose as he does here, but rather would anyone else do what Rose did which would lead the Doctor to do what he did? I think not. The bottom-line is that these two would live and die for each other. But hey, what a way for Nine to go.

K-I-S-S-I-N-G Rose.


I love that part. Just that they would obviously die for each other and I, again, I've just never seen characters who love each other as much as these two do. Or actors with as much chemistry as Christopher Eccleston and Billie Piper have. Also, yay for the kissing! I was still bawling during the kiss, but I was also grinning like a fool.
faith5by5_1013: Doctor Who: Nine/Rose: Kissfaith5by5_1013 on February 9th, 2009 06:14 pm (UTC)
"When he kisses her, it's not only the thing that he's wanted to do throughout the entire series, but it gives him peace because he's letting go of the burden of the Time Lords being destroyed and he's saving the one that he -- he loved the Time lords, they were his people -- but he loves, he loves this girl."

I love that quote because it's so right. And I do love that so much of the cast and crew ship Doctor/Rose like a lot of the fans do.

I love the entire scene with the kiss. It both breaks my heart and makes the crazy fangirl in me go, well, crazy and flail-y.

Speaking of other Doctors, oh, Tennant, how I was devastated by your appearance when I first saw this. Now, I couldn't help but grin at your grin even through my tears.

*agrees completely again* I was so angry and just heartbroken when he first showed up. But the second time I watched this episode, I grinned at his grin even though I was just an emotional mess.

Christopher Eccleston is yummy. And I so can't explain that to non-DW fans. They just don't get it. I mean, they get my attraction to older men, but they don't understand my attraction to CE.

I get really teary-eyed whenever I hear the word "fantastic". I do that when I hear "princess" too because I associate it with another character I completely loved who died, but that's not nearly as much of a problem because it's one of those words you don't hear too often.

I'm going to have to go back and read and comment to your other reviews as soon as I have the time.

I have to go calm myself down now because I have class in half an hour and I'm trying desperately not to cry.

*laughs* Completely not surprised that my comment was way too long for LJ.
aroniwen on February 9th, 2009 07:27 pm (UTC)
Brilliant review! I think that my growing love of meta (and I'm blaming you) is a sign of my further dexcent into madness. I've got to say that this is one of my all time favourite episodes--partly because it's such a perfect wrap up for the entire season without feeling trite. I really feel as if s1 was one of the most coherent and emotionally resonant arcs I've ever seen on television. And I love how the ending for each character is so cyclical. And they manage to extend that, not just to Rose and the Doctor, but even to Jackie and Jack. Sure Mickey's a bit more problematic, but when isn't he? I'm all for the look at Rose's screwed up personal relationships, but I think they might have dragged that one on a bit too long.

I also think, that after re reading your post on "Bad Wolf" and this one that part of the reason that I love this episode so much is that in my mind I don't divide this two parter down episode lines. I always think of the second part of the two parter as beginning when the Doctor enters the Weakest link room. Which means that I'm actually crediting what I call Parting of the Ways with a good deal of Bad Wolf's material. I dunno, it just seems like the part of the episodes where the tone really changes.

As for the Dalek-as-bad-guy problem. I don't know, I'm not an old school fan either but I think it worked well regardless, because I think that in the context it's not important for the Daleks to be our worst fear, but for us to understand that they are HIS. (Which goes along with the fact that when Rose came back she wasn't just saving him from death, she's saving him from his worst nightmare which is so much worse.)

I could spend a lot of time agreeing enthusiastically with your assesment of everything Rose did. But the post is already too long... So just YES! And I just love how clear they made it that for her the whole thing is about the Doctor, not just the travelling. It always amazes me, when I rewatch it, how much we actually see Rose grow during season one. And nine *sigh* there's just something about how he relates to her that's really difficult to capture. They shout and tease and even manipulate each other. But sometimes there's just such an underlying tenderness to their relationship that is beautiful to watch.

And I actually like the "I think you need a Doctor" statement, it's just so him... and so very Doctor Who. They never let us linger too long in the melodramma (well... at least they don't when they're on their game)

On a fairly unrelated point I think that Parting of the Ways, while it isn't the only reason, perfectly articulates for me why I could never ship Doctor/Rose/Jack. It would just be so incredibly disfunctional. What with the Doctor sending Rose away but letting Jack die and how the two of them are always so focused on each other. It's just- just- no.

I also like how (generally) even RTD's minor characters seem so real. It's like they've got these whole concrete lives going on off screen, we just don't get to see them.

I'm almost tempted to just keep writing, so that I don't have to say goodbye to nine at all. No matter how much I ended up liking Tennant (and I did) Eccleston will always by *my Doctor* and the ending of this episode, while fitting, is just so sad. (although Christmas Invasion is where I get silly about the whole thing, I still can't watch it without spending the whole time staring suspiciously at 10).
real life dropout and online overachiever: nine/rose kissrynne on February 9th, 2009 10:54 pm (UTC)
Oh, Nine. I adore him so. I love Ten, but Nine is still my Doctor.

It's sorta hard for me to know what to say here, because I've basically already said everything I have to say about this episode. But I definitely agree with a lot of what you've said here, and the rest is in my essay. :p
sammie28 on February 9th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
The only thing that I can think of is the power of the Daleks showing up and their grand scheme just doesn't affect me as someone

I'm with you on this one - the Daleks weren't impressive (and unfortunately, at least imho, they remain unscary in later episodes as well. Oh Shearman, where art thou?). As you say, RTD does far better with character.

My favorite scene was Emergency Program 1. When 9 turns to look at Rose, and the recording is in CE's own voice without the earlier electronic-sounding treatment, and the gentle, loving expression 9 has as he tells Rose that, if she will remember him, to have a fantastic life - and then flickers away - ooh, it made me cry!



It's the end of the Ninth Doctor and I loved him so much.

It's interesting to see the POV of a fan who started with 9. I came to "Who" during the 10 era, so I guess he's my Doctor, and I do love Tennant as the Doctor; to me, he's more Doctor-ish. But I LOVE 9 and personally find 9/Rose scenes more touching than 10/Rose. (Yes, yes, I know 9 and 10 are the same person! :-) )



...with regards to love interests for the Doctor,...you can't top Rose. You just can not.

AMEN!



I heard that and, thought -- for the first time -- I'm glad they cut the TARDIS coral scene from "Journey's End".... They don't need the TARDIS to be the Doctor and Rose.

Amen, again. I didn't like the coral scene for many reasons, but part of it was what you mentioned. Rose's happiness was about the Doctor, first; and I like to think that, as much as the Doctor loves his TARDIS and the time travel, Rose came first for him as well.



...Jackie...realized that even though she was grateful that the Doctor kept Rose safe and sent her back, he'd taken the choice from her. ... it was a wake-up call that Rose is not a little girl anymore.

Billie Piper said once that the whole traveling thing was partly about growing up and moving on, and Jackie does finally seem to get it when she sees Rose's growth. It was fantastic when she showed up with that truck, and I loved the fact that Rodrigo owed her a favor, lol. That was typical, practical, able to get things done kind of Jackie.



[But hey, what a way for Nine to go.
K-I-S-S-I-N-G Rose.]

It's so tender and gentle; fantastic!

I have to admit scenes like this really make me admire acting ability. I mean, we're moved by the magnitude of everything: the size of the room, the vortex light from Rose and the TARDIS, the power Rose is wielding as the Daleks dissolve, the music - but the actors have nothing. I mean, BP flicks her fingers to destroy the Daleks, and nothing happens on set; the Daleks' dissolving is all CGI-ed in later. And yet they are able to inject the needed feeling into it. Beautiful.



Heh, I love how Rose nodded in agreement when the Doctor told her that he was fantastic at the end there. Hee! :D

Barrowman was describing what happened at an awards ceremony (I forget which): he said that they showed this last scene, and there was a hush over the audience, and then 9 says, "You were fantastic. And you know what? ... So was I!" and the audience started cheering for Eccleston and kept cheering right through the regeneration scene - and kept cheering and cheering and cheering - before they remembered that DT still had a line after all that!



I've enjoyed your reviews immensely; best of luck with your 10/Rose episodes!
ms_sardonicus: love will not diems_sardonicus on February 10th, 2009 01:15 am (UTC)
I have such a hard time commenting right now because just the mention of POTW knocks the wind out of me and your review left me reaching for kleenex :).

I'm a long time who viewer who started with #3. From the moment I saw Nine, I never looked back. He is and always will be my Doctor.

Both BP and CE play that entire last sequence from Time Vortex Rose to regeneration with such gut-wrenching emotion, it leaves me in a puddle even today. Their chemistry was raw and electric. Even when they weren't touching...you felt that electricity between them. I've never seen that on television before.

I loved your review and the picspams of Chris. S1 was lightning in a bottle, a poignant love story wrapped in the guise of children's sci-fi show. It makes me miss Nine/Rose all the more.
ms_sardonicus: my doctorms_sardonicus on February 10th, 2009 04:35 am (UTC)
So I just went back and re-watched POTW....damn you...lol. I just had to share a moment that breaks the damn of tears for me. And I rarely cry when watching a movie or show, so for me to lose it during of all things...Doctor Who...well, it's telling indeed.

The part that starts the tears and really rips me apart is Time Vortex Rose telling the Doctor that she can see it all...'all that was, all that is, all that could be'. It's the way she says 'all that could be' with all the remorse of someone who can see the life with Nine as a lover/SO and know it will never happen. It's just heartbreaking. Nine's reaction is telling as well....he sees that time line too and knows he'll never travel down that road...but wishes...oh how he wishes...he could. 'Doesn't it drive you mad' takes on more significance with that insight.

It reminds me of 'Family of Blood' where John Smith sees his life with the matron and knows he'll never be able to do those things. That would drive me mad and break my heart beyond mending.

Thanks again for this fab review and sorry for rambling. I just miss Nine so much.
eolivet on February 17th, 2009 08:11 pm (UTC)
Oh...this episode. :) If Nine is your Doctor, Nine/Rose is my Doctor/Rose. ;) Their chemistry, their magic, to me, was never duplicated. One reason, IMHO, is CE's Doctor was so alien. No filter. The goofy (at times, inappropriate) grins, the spontaneous hugs...it never felt like he was quite comfortable in his own skin. Which made him perfect for Rose, who was never quite comfortable in hers before she met him. :)

There were simple things, like how it never occurred to her to ask the Doctor to take them away from the problem.

I bring this up, because this may be my favorite unsung scene of the ep. Not Rose's question, but the Doctor's response: "You could ask." I mean...wow. Maybe she'd never think of bringing it up, but the fact that she could (ask him to sacrifice the end of the world to take her away)? Siiiiigh...just...love it. :D

Interesting also how I find it hard to pinpoint a particularly stand-out CE "moment" from this ep, because they're ALL so good. From "Coward. Any day." to the kiss (the look of shock/elation on his face ["That's what I see. All the time."] and finally being able to relate to this human woman he loves so much on his own level -- yet knowing such knowledge could kill her...CE plays the bittersweetness so well!) to the heartbreaking regeneration scene. How, despite the terrible pain he's in, he keeps it together long enough to explain to Rose what's happening (and CE always makes you remember the Doctor is in pain with his facial expressions, but never lets it overwhelm the scene)

Sigh, and the look on his face when he tells her "You were fantastic." Wistful. Sad. Grateful. All at once. :) He said it without saying it (which I thought was totally genius on RTD's part -- the 'shippers could find it, the noromos could ignore it ;)

Thank you so much for taking the time to write these up...it has been a true joy reliving S1 through your eyes. :D