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19 October 2008 @ 12:27 am
More Thursday Night viewing ...  
So I finally got around to watching more of my Thursday shows (I still have Eleventh Hour -- yes, I watch that too. Rufus Sewell is still pretty and I like Marley Shelton. Oh, I'm two behind on My Name is Earl now! Eeek, how did that happen? I do still enjoy the show).

Anyhoo, So, second episode of Life on Mars -- yeah, the ratings dropped. Sigh. I hope they hold steady next week because I really do enjoy this show. Jason O'Mara is wonderful, he and Harvey Keitel have a fabulous chemistry and the hate-hate relationship between he and Michael Imperoli's character is awesome.

I will admit that I'm kinda bummed that they're pushing the whole "I love Maya" so much bit because (a) I don't really like Lisa Bonet, and (b) I don't think the two actors have any spark. But you know who does spark with O'Mara? Tanya Fischer, the actress who plays Windy, who sadly IMDB tells me is not in any other episodes so far. Waaah! Together, those two were just lovely. There was a joyful grace about their scenes, and the final dancing scene with them literally had me grinning with joy.

Great episode again, I really am enjoying this.

Oh, and on a related note, well, related to Life on Mars, HEE!! Apparently, in the premiere episode -- I missed this -- but it came out that Sam's mother's name is Rose. As in, wait for it ... Rose Tyler. Wait again. It gets better. Apparently, the BBC LoM creater couldn't come up with a last name for Sam, and so his daughter suggested Tyler. And the punchline? She's a Doctor Who fan who picked Tyler because of ... Rose Tyler. SQUEE!!! So I've now fanwanked that Sam Tyler is the child of Rose and TenII from the alternate universe and he's the age he is because when Ten dropped Rose and TenII (and Jackie) back on Pete's World, he got the date wrong and it was however many years ago Sam's age is. Uh huh. What? It's Who, and Life on Mars, crack abounds!!! And dude, the Doctor would totally take Rose's last name. Totally.

(Yes, I realizes that this means that Pete would still have his alternative Jackie and their kid wouldn't be born, but honestly, there is absolutely no basis in reality for this so I don't care. I want Sam Tyler to be the offspring of Rose and the Doctor. So there. My crack fanwanking.)

Ahem.

Aww, I loved this episode of The Office for the final two scenes alone. That Michael *got* (I think) that Jan saw that something there and thus was being her vindictive self because God forbid Michael have a shot at happiness. That Holly *got* what Michael was doing and didn't judge ... oh, oh, ohhhhh! That Michael went to Holly and just hugged her and she hugged him back and they both teared up and he asked her out and she said yes and then Michael felt something when he hugged her. Oh, it was just ... oh, Michael. It was just lovely.

And then Jim and Pam. I am NOT a Jim/Pam shipper. I like them, but I've been more into Michael/Jan, Ryan/Kelly and now Michael/Holly than I've ever been into Jim and Pam, but I loved how they did the engagement a few weeks ago and the final scene with them was just the squishiest, most adorable, most lovely, sweet thing EVER! I bet there's fanfic for when the two hear each other's voice mails and see, no, they really are totally in sync. It was just, again lovely.

Yay The Office!
 
 
 
jedi_of_urth: foreverjedi_of_urth on October 19th, 2008 05:17 am (UTC)
I think it's sort of non-canon but often accepted that BBC Sam Tyler is like a cousin of Pete's or something (how this explains his resemblance to the Master provides opportunity for crazy random speculation). I hadn't heard that story about how he got the name but that is cute.

I don't know what they'll do in the US version but in the BBC one Maya wasn't really that big a character. She was in the pilot, mentioned a couple times through the show, there was an episode involving her mother (in which I spent a fair amount of time being scared Sam was going to turn out to be her father, but really it was just about him letting her go in the end).

I'm kind of antsy for Pam to get back to the office. Sure in story I'm glad she gets to go off and pursue her dream but watching it I miss her being with the rest of the cast (mostly Jim). And the more crazy Jan gets the more I don't want her on the show any more, but that may just be me.
Arabian: Dr Who (10) - Impossible Planetarabian on October 19th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
I think it's sort of non-canon but often accepted that BBC Sam Tyler is like a cousin of Pete's or something (how this explains his resemblance to the Master provides opportunity for crazy random speculation). I hadn't heard that story about how he got the name but that is cute.

Erm, okay. But I want him to Rose and the Doctor's son? Please? Come on, crack abounds. It can work. In my mind.

I don't know what they'll do in the US version but in the BBC one Maya wasn't really that big a character. She was in the pilot, mentioned a couple times through the show, there was an episode involving her mother (in which I spent a fair amount of time being scared Sam was going to turn out to be her father, but really it was just about him letting her go in the end).

Yeah, I've gotten that impression from eolivet, alas, the way they keep pushing Lisa Bonet in the credits and showing the sweet, lovey-dovey mentions/scenes, etc. in both episodes so far, I'm pretty sure that's going to turn out differently.

I'm kind of antsy for Pam to get back to the office. Sure in story I'm glad she gets to go off and pursue her dream but watching it I miss her being with the rest of the cast (mostly Jim).

Oh, I agree. Hopefully, soon! :D

And the more crazy Jan gets the more I don't want her on the show any more, but that may just be me.

Yeah, but she actually seemed less crazy in this episode than she has in a long time. That's something.
hiddeneloisehiddeneloise on October 19th, 2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
I bet there's fanfic for when the two hear each other's voice mails and see, no, they really are totally in sync.

LOL, try about 30 of them, popping up overnight. :)

But yes, that's what I love about the show: in one episode they often manage to make you laugh, squirm with discomfort, cower in fear, break your heart a little, and make you tear up with sheer joy. At least, that's normally my reaction. lol. And this, by rights, should have been a pretty depressing episode. They are all sort of trapped. Michael is trapped by his desire for the kind of family life that he never had, and he keeps getting short-changed. And Jan is trapped, too. Because here's the reality of raising a child, and she is getting it that Michael is her sole support system right now -- and pretty darn forgiving and unquestioning one at that -- but there's a real threat of losing it now, just when she needs it most. And as erratic as her behavior has gotten, she is still lucid and perceptive enough to see the threat. And Holly is trapped by the whole situation, where she doesn't even have a navigational map. Jim and Pam are trapped by distance. Which is, of course, not terrible and all in good cause, but it's wearing them down none the less.

Yeah, it should have been depressing, but it wasn't. The little things made it not so. I love my little things on that show! :) Incidentally, the little, nuanced things is what makes me such a huge Jim and Pam shipper.
Arabian: Feelings Journalarabian on October 19th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
I bet there's fanfic for when the two hear each other's voice mails and see, no, they really are totally in sync.

LOL, try about 30 of them, popping up overnight. :)

Of course, I wouldn't expect anything less.

And just, yes, to the rest of your post. It was the deft touch and perfect balance that they managed to capture that made this episode (and many of them) so good. When it goes to far into sap or too far into depression, it doesn't work (and, fortunately, happens rarely on this show), but when you get that right balance, it's just perfect. As tonight's episode was. And add those little nuances, that realism, it just makes the viewer love these characters more.
she was a work in progress.: Dwight K. Schrutedreamer_98 on October 19th, 2008 09:08 pm (UTC)
I haven't really liked the past two episodes of The Office that much (probably because there hasn't been much Dwangela stuff), but I have to admit that Michael and Holly are so dorkily cute. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with them, and I hope that he doesn't go back to Jan. Because yeah, she's crazy. And even Michael doesn't deserve that.
Arabian: TVarabian on October 19th, 2008 10:02 pm (UTC)
Oh, hmm, I'm not the biggest Dwangela fan. I don't dislike them, but I don't really care for them so that hasn't been a factor for me. I'm sorry you haven't enjoyed the past two episodes. :( I've really done so. But hey! With the wedding coming up and stuff, maybe you'll get a lot of Dwangela in November sweeps.

I hope Michael and Holly work it out (and I was once a Michael/Jan fan), she is just perfect for him! :)
eolivet on October 20th, 2008 03:20 pm (UTC)
I love that story about how Sam Tyler was "named." His original last name was "Williams," I believe (which came up in the last ep of the original series ;p )

it came out that Sam's mother's name is Rose

I heard that!!! I don't even think we found out her name in the original, so either that was 1) cut from the original script, or 2) specifically named here as a shout-out to the fans of the original who knew the story. :p

But you know who does spark with O'Mara? Tanya Fischer, the actress who plays Windy

Yessssss. :D I'm glad someone else agrees with me. :) I hope we'll at least see more of her in the future. :)
Arabian: A/J -Squee!arabian on October 20th, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm sure it was a little gimme for the fans who know the story. Hee!!

Sadly, I checked imdb and didn't see Tanya Fischer's name in any future episodes so far. ::sniff sniff:: I LOVED that final scene.