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03 June 2008 @ 10:18 pm
I should be thrilled about Obama, instead I'm furious with Hillary!!!  
When I first heard it said that Obama clinched the nomination, making history, I had tears in my eyes, I was so happy. And then came Hillary's speech and I sat there watching it with a sickening feeling in my stomach just knowing that she wasn't going to concede. And she didn't. MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! I think she pretty much killed any opportunity for the VP or anywhere close to to the presidency EVER. What a ... my GOD!!!!!!!!!! The ego, the absolute horrificness of this just angers and frustrates me and makes me so incredibly furious, I have no words.

And to make it even worse, right before her speech, Axelrod (Obama's campaign manager) gave credit to Hillary, saying how wonderful she was, and show she had fought a magnificent race. The Obama campaign showing grace in victory. And then not so much Hillary. Not so much. Instead of this being about a historic moment in history, instead of focusing on Obama's moment -- the first African-American presidential nominee!!!!, she is making it all about her. MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!

GOD, I'M FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This poppycock that she's being forced out because she's a woman is ridiculous. ANY OTHER CANDIDATE WHO'D LOST THIRTEEN PRIMARIES IN A ROW would have been expected to drop out. She has been urged to drop out not because she's a woman, but because going by the math she had a snowball's hell in chance of clinching the nomination.

This really was her LAST chance to be gracious, to actually get all of the credit for uniting the party, blah, blah, blah and she just shat all over it. My God the gall of that woman!!!!!!!!!!

Deep breath. Whatever, I'll get over. He's got the nomination and because of this speech of hers, there's pretty much no way in hell she'll get the VP slot now. And I can firmly and finally say THANK GOD! because of THIS speech, because of how she chose to handle this.

Go Obama!!!
babebraham lincoln: celeb; barack obamapaintedinflames on June 4th, 2008 02:28 am (UTC)
UGH. I don't even want to think about Hillary.

Arabian: Obama 2008arabian on June 4th, 2008 02:29 am (UTC)
I'm writing a happy Obama post now. Damnit.

Feel free to bitch about Hillary and her damn speech here.

Telling though, you know? When Hillary praised Obama (briefly in her speech at the beginning), her crowd came this close to booing, and tried to give her the credit. When Obama praised Hillary at LENGTH and in DETAIL, his crowd cheered and hooted and hollared.
Honorable Monotreme: Doctor Rose Grinnobleplatypus on June 4th, 2008 02:34 am (UTC)
I am SO forking sick of people screaming "sexist!" whenever anyone dares to criticize Clinton. News flash, idiots: voting for someone because they're a woman is every bit as sexist as voting for someone because they're a man. There was some prominent political "feminist" on NPR this morning, talking about how she was going to write in Clinton's name even if she lost the primaries. When the show's host basically asked her, "Considering that Clinton and Obama agree on 95% of the issues, wouldn't it be nice to vote for Obama instead of risking the election of a guy who is all sorts of unfeminist things, like pro-life?" and the woman replied, "NO." Because spite is so much more important than actually advancing your forking feminist cause, moron. Ugh.

But you know what? I'm watching Obama's speech in St. Paul right now (I wish I could have gone), and the man is a rock star. He is going to FLATTEN the opposition.
Arabian: Donna Noblearabian on June 4th, 2008 02:40 am (UTC)
YES!!!!!!!!!!! Sexist is basing your decision on gender alone.

And, Barack is ROCKING his speech!!!!!! Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!
leosgreens: boleynleosgreens on June 4th, 2008 12:18 pm (UTC)
Sore loser
I couldn't watch Hilary's speech. I saw in the newspaper this a.m. at work that not only did she not concede, she actually was still tooting her own horn. WTF!! Do you know where I can read the transcripts of the speeches?
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leosgreensleosgreens on June 6th, 2008 12:47 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
Jeannette told me she heard Hillary's keeping her delegates. Is that right? Does that mean she's going to try to pull something at Denver? How come I got your last post four times?
Arabian: Sherilyn Fennarabian on June 6th, 2008 01:10 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
I deleted all of the previous posts in this thread that were off-topic (was actually coming to do this before I read your response). What I was going to say was simply -- this is stupid, they're both just stupid tv shows. I love you and don't want to fight over this.

So, repeating the Hillary stuff:

Hillary Clinton is offering Barack Obama half a loaf on her way out the door. No joint appearance with the presumptive nominee and their families in prime time – which would be carried live on television. No appearances by folks like Harold Ickes and Terry McAuliffe who ran her campaign telling her supporters to unite behind Obama. No appearance by Bill saying "let bygones be bygones, and I'm going to offer to work hard to get Barack Obama elected."

Instead Senator Clinton is planning a public appearance on Saturday to talk about how "we can rally the party behind Senator Obama. The stakes are too high and the task before us too important to do otherwise."

Meanwhile, it turns out Clinton had to be pushed to get out of the race by several of her Democratic congressional colleagues… and reportedly she didn't even bother to call Obama to tell him of her decision. One more thing, and it's important: Clinton is expected to suspend her campaign instead of dropping out altogether.

I have no words; none that I'll post in a public forum of any sort at least.


I haven't heard anything about Hillary keeping her delegates, wouldn't surprise me, though. I think that key about "suspending" not "dropping out" is important. I think she is going to not fully endorse and support Obama on the chance that his numbers will drop against McCain in the next few months and then when the convention hits, she'll restate her case in the hopes of having the delegates name her the offical nominee.

Again, NO WORDS.

(I edited my comment that's why you got it four times.)
leosgreensleosgreens on June 6th, 2008 01:17 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
Did you get my text? They're meeting right now!
Arabianarabian on June 6th, 2008 01:39 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
leosgreens: pic#75566983leosgreens on June 6th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
So do you think he's going to take her, or he's telling her, NOPE!
Arabian: Obama 2008arabian on June 6th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
Heh, the pound. God, I hope he's telling her nope. I REALLY don't want her on the ticket.
leosgreens: pic#75566983leosgreens on June 6th, 2008 10:15 am (UTC)
Re: Hillary
I really don't want her to be, either, I just hope by the time he decides it's been long enough that these idiots who are threatening to vote for John McCain have calmed down and realized that would be beyond stupid. And that on a night that Obama clinched the nomination, Terry McAuliffe introduced HER as the next President?! What? How? What? Are they insane or just deeply stupid? She doesn't deserve the vice presidency!

I keep hearing people mention Bill Richardson, Tim Kaine, and Jim Webb as possibilities. Who do you think he should choose?
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